There is "no need" to launch a new Xbox console with Natal on the horizon, says Microsoft's senior director of Xbox product management, David Hufford.
Speaking in an interview with The Guardian (via Tech Radar), Hufford reiterated Microsoft's stance that the Xbox 360 has a long life ahead of it.
"I think it's important to say that the Xbox 360 is the console of the long future for us," he said. "There is no need to launch a new console, because we're able to give this console new life either with software upgrades or hardware upgrades like Project Natal.
"The Xbox 360 was designed for a long life, and I don't even know if we're at the midpoint yet," he told the paper.
Rather than release a new console, Microsoft is of course relying on motion cam Project Natal to bring new game experiences to the console.
Hufford said Microsoft had demonstrated at E3 that the technology works, and now "we've asked the development teams to concentrate on making the games."
Still, we'll bet a packet of Chewits that Xbox 720 will be out within two years if Natal doesn't take off.
No comments on here yet?? A serious question I ask then is have MS actually solved the reliability problems now? If not then it's arrogant to state you won't redesign something that's flawed, that's why I jumped ship, after having 3 of them. I also suspect this is being stated as Sony have not said anything about the PS4, then again they are probably still out of pocket from the PS3 developments cost. But they at least update it with the Slim, can't see why MS can't do that with the 360?
Like the idea of Natal though, looks very interesting, different to what the Wii brought to the games world. No doubt a flame war will now continue hence..............
I can't see Sony or Microsoft releasing a new console for at least another couple of years. They both have powerful hardware (being enhanced with add-ons). Nintendo on the other hand, I can see producing a HD based Wii this year.
Nintendo Christmas 2010:- Wii HD. Microsoft 2012:- Xbox 3D, Live based console with built in Natal. Sony 2012:- Playstation 4 with 3D space controllers.
With NATAL on the way and with the RROD problem finally brought down to an acceptable level this is really the best possible time to launch a new 360, a nice slim model, with NATAL and with the RROD behind them could see the system receive a nice lift in sales.
And to think, loads of people thought Sony were crazy with the 10 year plan for the PS3, with MS on board for a long life for the 360 that will only help Sony reach that goal.
Yea well, lets see what they say when sales of 360 start to fall off, also I think Microsoft are putting a little too much faith in Natal (you never know it could flop).
No comments on here yet?? A serious question I ask then is have MS actually solved the reliability problems now? If not then it's arrogant to state you won't redesign something that's flawed, that's why I jumped ship, after having 3 of them. I also suspect this is being stated as Sony have not said anything about the PS4, then again they are probably still out of pocket from the PS3 developments cost. But they at least update it with the Slim, can't see why MS can't do that with the 360?
Like the idea of Natal though, looks very interesting, different to what the Wii brought to the games world. No doubt a flame war will now continue hence..............
Yes the reliability problems are now solved with the new machines. Sony are rumored to do a Nintendo and release a more powerful PS3 however Nintendo did obviously release game changing controls so we will see what sony will do for PS4.
As for Natal, I just don't get it. I can see how good it could be for office apps etc but how do you move around in a game with it while using your hands to interact? I just can't see how it will work for games. (It is very clever though).
Reading the actual article on the Guardian site, does the guy writing know anything aboyt games?
"Most console wars result in a big win for one player -- Atari VCS, Nintendo NES, Sega Mega Drive, Sony PlayStation or whatever -- with the others failing. This encourages the failing companies to move to the next generation first to get a competitive edge.
So the Megadrive sold more than the SNES worldwide did it? Yep, and the SNES was such a massive failure that Nintendo did all they could to get the N64 out of the door first!
Journalists? Pah!
And for the last time, attach rates have nought to do with the sales, that's the point! And the PS3's was the lowest earlier this year, may well be different now though.
I can't see Sony or Microsoft releasing a new console for at least another couple of years. They both have powerful hardware (being enhanced with add-ons). Nintendo on the other hand, I can see producing a HD based Wii this year.
Nintendo Christmas 2010:- Wii HD. Microsoft 2012:- Xbox 3D, Live based console with built in Natal. Sony 2012:- Playstation 4 with 3D space controllers.
I can't see Nintendo releasing a Wii HD. They are close to the lifecycle end and therefore are surely more likely to release a whole new console. If they do and it turns out (as rumoured) a return to the graphical powerhouse, then MS will need to come up with a new console. Especially as I would expect the next nintendo console to compete quite well on the online and media front judging by the change of heart that has been shown by nintendo.
I can't see Sony or Microsoft releasing a new console for at least another couple of years. They both have powerful hardware (being enhanced with add-ons). Nintendo on the other hand, I can see producing a HD based Wii this year.
Nintendo Christmas 2010:- Wii HD. Microsoft 2012:- Xbox 3D, Live based console with built in Natal. Sony 2012:- Playstation 4 with 3D space controllers.
I can't see Nintendo releasing a Wii HD. They are close to the lifecycle end and therefore are surely more likely to release a whole new console. If they do and it turns out (as rumoured) a return to the graphical powerhouse, then MS will need to come up with a new console. Especially as I would expect the next nintendo console to compete quite well on the online and media front judging by the change of heart that has been shown by nintendo.
Let me remind you of the following set of Nintendo hardware releases: DS, DS Lite, DSi, DS XL. I'd say they're more likely to upgrade the Wii than release a new console.
The xbox 360 was designed for a long life was it? What an absolute a hole. How can he say that with a straight face, and how can CVG post this story without any hint of irony? My xbox is on it's way to germany, this being the third time I have had to send my console off. Designed to give my a bloody hernia is what the 360 is.
unless they think suddenly their user base would be happy with worse graphics and performance with the 'bonus' of motion controls.
cant have software driven motion and top end games.
no, the future is not natal. they can continue to make normal games, but motion will be a fad. watch the egg blow up in microsofts FACE!
the wii has the worst attach rate (even with the most amount of consoles out there by far)
this isnt gonna pull real gamers to the 360. and casuals will stay with the wii.
By your logic, Sony's wand will also do the same thing. Good effort.
yes, idiot.
sony havent touted motion as the future though.
as the 360 peaks, they are relying on motion to bring them up to their next console...
just as the ps3 starts to get better and specific games like agent that use the BR drive without worrying about DVD limits.
we will start to see it pull away. while you are all flapping about in front of the tv like gimps.
I'm sure you're very concerned about the BR capacity when you're on your own touching your EyePet inappropriately. Now THERE's a way to drive technology forward
I think with MS and Sony both sticking with their current hardware for the foreseeable, it would be very interesting for Nintendo to launch the HD Wii (I'd like to see it called the WiiII for comedy reasons!).
Now if they launched it backwardly compatible, with a hight end capability that outstrips PS3 and 360, (surely not that hard, there are much better GPUs at affordable prices in the PC space) and have a proper pad for proper games, they could end up in a very strong position.
I think there is a lot of time left in the 360 and in this generation as a whole. I can see this being the longest ever, infact Sony's 10 year cycle could be spot on.
Microsoft don't need to bring a new machine out becuase I still don't think dev's have quite maxxed it out yet. Plus MS have shown with NXE how they can change the whole experence with the system with just a new firmware update.
Sony clearly have lots of untapped power in the PS3, plus the cell processor is still not fully unlocked.
Its Nintendo that will release a new machine first. 3rd parties are pulling out of the Wii fast, and the attach rate on the system is dire. They are still selling like hot cakes but even Nintendo have admited there is a problem with hardware sales starting to slow now.
unless they think suddenly their user base would be happy with worse graphics and performance with the 'bonus' of motion controls.
cant have software driven motion and top end games.
no, the future is not natal. they can continue to make normal games, but motion will be a fad. watch the egg blow up in microsofts FACE!
the wii has the worst attach rate (even with the most amount of consoles out there by far)
this isnt gonna pull real gamers to the 360. and casuals will stay with the wii.
By your logic, Sony's wand will also do the same thing. Good effort.
yes, idiot.
sony havent touted motion as the future though.
as the 360 peaks, they are relying on motion to bring them up to their next console...
just as the ps3 starts to get better and specific games like agent that use the BR drive without worrying about DVD limits.
we will start to see it pull away. while you are all flapping about in front of the tv like gimps.
I'm sure you're very concerned about the BR capacity when you're on your own touching your EyePet inappropriately. Now THERE's a way to drive technology forward
most garbage post ever.
you do tend to talk absolute shite when you cant argue in your favour anymore.
unless they think suddenly their user base would be happy with worse graphics and performance with the 'bonus' of motion controls.
cant have software driven motion and top end games.
no, the future is not natal. they can continue to make normal games, but motion will be a fad. watch the egg blow up in microsofts FACE!
the wii has the worst attach rate (even with the most amount of consoles out there by far)
this isnt gonna pull real gamers to the 360. and casuals will stay with the wii.
By your logic, Sony's wand will also do the same thing. Good effort.
yes, idiot.
sony havent touted motion as the future though.
as the 360 peaks, they are relying on motion to bring them up to their next console...
just as the ps3 starts to get better and specific games like agent that use the BR drive without worrying about DVD limits.
we will start to see it pull away. while you are all flapping about in front of the tv like gimps.
I'm sure you're very concerned about the BR capacity when you're on your own touching your EyePet inappropriately. Now THERE's a way to drive technology forward
most garbage post ever.
you do tend to talk absolute shite when you cant argue in your favour anymore.
And you, faceless anon, managed to miss the point entirely.
luckily i have another 360 i can use otherwise i'd be pretty p'd off.
the 360 will be around for a while. i'm not convinced that Natal will do much. if it just ends up woth a load of casual crap then count me out. if on the other hand stuff like fable, forza and some other big hitters use it well then i'm all up for it.
i'm with whoever said the Big N will release a new console. not an updated Wii. Nintendo have already indicated they won't do a Wii HD as that would not constitute innovation.
I can't see Sony or Microsoft releasing a new console for at least another couple of years. They both have powerful hardware (being enhanced with add-ons). Nintendo on the other hand, I can see producing a HD based Wii this year.
Nintendo Christmas 2010:- Wii HD. Microsoft 2012:- Xbox 3D, Live based console with built in Natal. Sony 2012:- Playstation 4 with 3D space controllers.
I can't see Nintendo releasing a Wii HD. They are close to the lifecycle end and therefore are surely more likely to release a whole new console. If they do and it turns out (as rumoured) a return to the graphical powerhouse, then MS will need to come up with a new console. Especially as I would expect the next nintendo console to compete quite well on the online and media front judging by the change of heart that has been shown by nintendo.
Let me remind you of the following set of Nintendo hardware releases: DS, DS Lite, DSi, DS XL. I'd say they're more likely to upgrade the Wii than release a new console.
Not when they have all but confirmed that they are working on a new console altogether... If a new console is on its way in the next 12-24 months then they are not going to release a Wii HD. It would not make any sense as it may affect the sales of the new console.
Sony are allready testing 3d Games on PS3. They had a demo of Wipeout fusion in 3d. Cnet said it was really good and promising. And sony reckon they can run 3d games at 1080P. Meaning you could see your favourite games in 3d. something like Gran Turismo was mentioned.
As for the topic of this thread. The xbox's lifespan is coming to an end, I seriously hope that microsoft have not banked their future sucess on the natal. If microsoft were to start developing a new console now they've have such a huge advantage. i don't see why they are trying to get a market which has allready been taken by the wii.
unless they think suddenly their user base would be happy with worse graphics and performance with the 'bonus' of motion controls.
cant have software driven motion and top end games.
no, the future is not natal. they can continue to make normal games, but motion will be a fad. watch the egg blow up in microsofts FACE!
the wii has the worst attach rate (even with the most amount of consoles out there by far)
this isnt gonna pull real gamers to the 360. and casuals will stay with the wii.
By your logic, Sony's wand will also do the same thing. Good effort.
yes, idiot.
sony havent touted motion as the future though.
as the 360 peaks, they are relying on motion to bring them up to their next console...
just as the ps3 starts to get better and specific games like agent that use the BR drive without worrying about DVD limits.
we will start to see it pull away. while you are all flapping about in front of the tv like gimps.
I'm sure you're very concerned about the BR capacity when you're on your own touching your EyePet inappropriately. Now THERE's a way to drive technology forward
most garbage post ever.
you do tend to talk absolute shite when you cant argue in your favour anymore.
And you, faceless anon, managed to miss the point entirely.
that one was even worse! starting to think your some sort of mental escapee.
tell me your point then... go.
whats the relevance between blu-ray capacity, touching up an eye-pet and the fact im anonymous.
Sony are allready testing 3d Games on PS3. They had a demo of Wipeout fusion in 3d. Cnet said it was really good and promising. And sony reckon they can run 3d games at 1080P. Meaning you could see your favourite games in 3d. something like Gran Turismo was mentioned.
As for the topic of this thread. The xbox's lifespan is coming to an end, I seriously hope that microsoft have not banked their future sucess on the natal. If microsoft were to start developing a new console now they've have such a huge advantage. i don't see why they are trying to get a market which has allready been taken by the wii.
Yeap, Sony have already stated they will use a firmware update to enable 3G gaming on the PS3, it's not even that hard though, PC's have been able to do it for ages but I don't think anyone bothers playing them? It's all about getting to new markets though isn't it to get the longevity. 3D games is a smart move as Sony have there TV's and pretty much the entire electronics industry pushing for it, IMO it'll flop though until you don't need to wear glasses and the TV for that isn't £5000. And MS has got Natal which is damn clever, bringing motion capture to a console!
360 does have life left though without Natal, so many devs support it and they know they can make money on it. It is powerful but I still think a 360 slim should come out with WiFi built in MS!! And all the smallest diode chips in it so it won't overheat. I personally can't see a PS4 being out anytime soon either but Ninty WILL launch something soon IMO.
Sony are allready testing 3d Games on PS3. They had a demo of Wipeout fusion in 3d. Cnet said it was really good and promising. And sony reckon they can run 3d games at 1080P. Meaning you could see your favourite games in 3d. something like Gran Turismo was mentioned.
As for the topic of this thread. The xbox's lifespan is coming to an end, I seriously hope that microsoft have not banked their future sucess on the natal. If microsoft were to start developing a new console now they've have such a huge advantage. i don't see why they are trying to get a market which has allready been taken by the wii.
I have seen other reports that have said that the experience while reasonably impressive, was not particularly good for gaming.
If it is anything like 3D films (which I expect it is) then I want no part of it as I think they are horrible!
Plus I do not want to have to buy a new TV in order to play my next console!
Nintendo on the other hand, I can see producing a HD based Wii this year.
I don't think Nintendo will release a new version of the Wii just yet. The black model and new bundle seems to have paid off, as has NSMB Wii - especially in Japan where its drove hardware sales up much more in comparison to its usual low-ish sales. The new Mario, Metroid and (maybe if it makes 2010) Zelda games will drive sales further too. And anything else we don't know about yet.
As for M$, yeah, why release a new machine when this one is still selling?
EDIT: I see the altitude and SVD scrap has spilled into this thread!
I'm sure there is a way to use natal with maybe a 3D enhanced pair of glasses simular to the old VR helmets? so basically you can use natal to move around and the images would be sent upto the glasses and potrayed in a 3d format to trick the brain into thinking your actually in the game!?
With NATAL on the way and with the RROD problem finally brought down to an acceptable level this is really the best possible time to launch a new 360, a nice slim model, with NATAL and with the RROD behind them could see the system receive a nice lift in sales.
And to think, loads of people thought Sony were crazy with the 10 year plan for the PS3, with MS on board for a long life for the 360 that will only help Sony reach that goal.
A slim really is needed for MS though
I agree that a Slim would be a good marketing tool.
However, it might prove difficult in reality. The fact that they still seem unable to 100% sort the RROD just makes me sceptical about how they heck they would manage to squeeze the innards into an even smaller space and prevent them from overheating.
I'd rather see a redesign of the 360. Not even externally, just the guts: make it quieter, get rid of the RRoD totally, better DVD drive, not sure about built in wireless, but why not make wireless something like £20 when you buy a new console?
Wii hardware sales are dropping, but they're still way ahead of MS/Sony worldwide. And with development costs so much less, publishers can sell fewer copies. Third parties need to advertise, there are plenty of gems (Muramasa etc) that just go right under the radar.
I can't see an upgraded spec wii coming out this year though.
Let me remind you of the following set of Nintendo hardware releases: DS, DS Lite, DSi, DS XL. I'd say they're more likely to upgrade the Wii than release a new console.
I know what you mean, but that's a portable. They did that too with the GB and GBA, but all they did with home consoles (with the exception of the remodelled NES and SNES) is add new colours. Who knows, it may be different this time but with the sales of the Wii going up again and with big games due for release, it'd be a little pointless to release a HD Wii just yet
I'm sure there is a way to use natal with maybe a 3D enhanced pair of glasses simular to the old VR helmets? so basically you can use natal to move around and the images would be sent upto the glasses and potrayed in a 3d format to trick the brain into thinking your actually in the game!?
Natal is not a console and therefore has nothing to do with 3D. The 360 could probably be made to do 3D in the same way as the PS3 but you will need to purchase and expensive display in order to play it.
Natal is not a console and therefore has nothing to do with 3D. The 360 could probably be made to do 3D in the same way as the PS3 but you will need to purchase and expensive display in order to play it.
I know Natal's not a console! just thought using the 360 and Natals motion cam and 3D specs beaming the image from the TV to your glasses, therefore the image on screen wouldn't need to be 3D just somewhere from the console to the glasses it makes the image 3D! surely this wouldn't be expensive, plus you wouldn't need to buy a new TV to play 3D games! And also you will be actually in the game! using natals motion sensors to pick up guns, walk, open doors, hide, drive etc! endless possibilities! dunno just an idea!
Natal is not a console and therefore has nothing to do with 3D. The 360 could probably be made to do 3D in the same way as the PS3 but you will need to purchase and expensive display in order to play it.
I know Natal's not a console! just thought using the 360 and Natals motion cam and 3D specs beaming the image from the TV to your glasses, therefore the image on screen wouldn't need to be 3D just somewhere from the console to the glasses it makes the image 3D! surely this wouldn't be expensive, plus you wouldn't need to buy a new TV to play 3D games! And also you will be actually in the game! using natals motion sensors to pick up guns, walk, open doors, hide, drive etc! endless possibilities! dunno just an idea!
Well yes, however the glasses would still be quite expensive. and on top of that you would be cut off from the outside world and therefore prone to bumping into things (depending on how small your room is) ,motion sickness (have they solved that old VR problem yet?) and you would need multiple glasses for each player.
I still fail to understand how you move around in a game with Natal.....
The specs could come with natal at a reasonable price! thou understand what your saying! there would be just afew problems with it! you would need a big room to manouver, or walking on the spot would maybe work! but then you have turning and facing away from the screen etc! as with the motion sickness I couldn't tell you what it would be like to be inside it to see how it felt! (no puns please lol)
I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING GRASSHOPPER IS THAT YOUR A KIND OF CREEP WHO WOULD TOUCH UP AND EYETOY CUZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE
Thanks for the support, but that wasn't my point. Not a fan of anyone here, regardless of what they're like, getting personal insults. I wouldn't want even him thinking that was what I meant. That part of the post was sarcasm, more than anything.
I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING GRASSHOPPER IS THAT YOUR A KIND OF CREEP WHO WOULD TOUCH UP AND EYETOY CUZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE
Dorian,
I’ve been ignoring your vitriol for weeks now, but your constant bashing of the PS3 has convinced me of the need to take action!
I can assure you that there are more degenerates on Xbox Live than PSN. FACT!
How do I know this you ask? Well, I’ll tell you....
My long-suffering flatmate is a Sales Manager for a digital-forensics firm whose main activity is extracting data from digital devices in order to prepare it for presentation in court – e.g. “expert witness” work and the like.
I asked him which platform was the most rife with creeps and he said that if one excludes the PC and focuses solely on the consoles it is the 360 without any shadow of a doubt! Next, I asked him to give me the reasons and they were as follows:
a) Loads more people speak on Live so it is much easier to pick out potential targets.
b) There are more people on Live.
c) Live has been established for longer.
d) The repeat offender dorian2011 confessed in his parole meeting that he owns a 360 and a subscription to Live!
I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING GRASSHOPPER IS THAT YOUR A KIND OF CREEP WHO WOULD TOUCH UP AND EYETOY CUZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE
Thanks for the support, but that wasn't my point. Not a fan of anyone here, regardless of what they're like, getting personal insults. I wouldn't want even him thinking that was what I meant. That part of the post was sarcasm, more than anything.
Why don’t you give him a bunch of flowers then you big f**king pansy, c**kbox loving M$hite underling, suck on my salty ball sweat you bottom feeding felcher.
Why don't you all have a mass fight on some waste ground somewhere!? Xbox fanboys vs PS3 fanboys and be done with it! whoever wins therefore can stand up and say which console is better!? haha
I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING GRASSHOPPER IS THAT YOUR A KIND OF CREEP WHO WOULD TOUCH UP AND EYETOY CUZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE
Thanks for the support, but that wasn't my point. Not a fan of anyone here, regardless of what they're like, getting personal insults. I wouldn't want even him thinking that was what I meant. That part of the post was sarcasm, more than anything.
Why don’t you give him a bunch of flowers then you big f**king pansy, c**kbox loving M$hite underling, suck on my salty ball sweat you bottom feeding felcher.
I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING GRASSHOPPER IS THAT YOUR A KIND OF CREEP WHO WOULD TOUCH UP AND EYETOY CUZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE
Thanks for the support, but that wasn't my point. Not a fan of anyone here, regardless of what they're like, getting personal insults. I wouldn't want even him thinking that was what I meant. That part of the post was sarcasm, more than anything.
Why don’t you give him a bunch of flowers then you big f**king pansy, c**kbox loving M$hite underling, suck on my salty ball sweat you bottom feeding felcher.
Don't talk about your mother like that!
(Sorry had to get that one in to feel at home in this childish argument )
I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING GRASSHOPPER IS THAT YOUR A KIND OF CREEP WHO WOULD TOUCH UP AND EYETOY CUZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE
Thanks for the support, but that wasn't my point. Not a fan of anyone here, regardless of what they're like, getting personal insults. I wouldn't want even him thinking that was what I meant. That part of the post was sarcasm, more than anything.
Why don’t you give him a bunch of flowers then you big f**king pansy, c**kbox loving M$hite underling, suck on my salty ball sweat you bottom feeding felcher.
Don't talk about your mother like that!
(Sorry had to get that one in to feel at home in this childish argument )
youve completey missed my point did i say there was no paedos on 360? NOOOO and what i was meaning is that if there was a paedo on xbox live you can block him and report him and his rep goes down and he wont pay 35 quid just to talk to you again but on psn like alot of people have sayed is that they will find you and keep harassing you and like what moss said whne a girl appears on home they swarm on her like bees on honey and come on youve got stay at home and no work virgins like svd in your ps3 fanboy corner and people like that are probz the reason why there is no voice chat cause who wants to hear this
psn user: wow this match is good svd grasshopper: *heavy breathing* aggggggent psn user: what? svd grasshopper: sorry my c**k was wrapped in the middle of my ps3 magazine oooooo agent psn user: im only 8 svd grasshopper: yummmy *heavy breathing*
@ps3f***yboy, so your argument is there is more people so there are more c**ks?
Not exactly case winning material is it? Ever heard of the percentage?
I'm not debating your argument, as I do not have a PS3 but I would wager that people en masse have the potential to be c**ks, especially in games where the object is to shoot people in the face. Doesn't tend to bring out the best in people.
Why don't you all have a mass fight on some waste ground somewhere!? Xbox fanboys vs PS3 fanboys and be done with it! whoever wins therefore can stand up and say which console is better!? haha
or you could all grow up and realise that what you're bickering about isn't really important.
Save me Jebus, Dorian you really need to stop going on about paedophiles, anyone would think you have some kind of unhealthy obsession with them. All you’re doing is making yourself look mental, especially if you type some posts all in capitals. Do you sleep in a padded room?
or you could all grow up and realise that what you're bickering about isn't really important.
I know it's childish but it's rivalry! look back through generations and all you see is rivalry between 2 sets of people standing up for what they believe is the right way!
So I call out to all my 360 brothers and lets wage war upon the PS3 generation haha! I'm off now to ram raid currys and sledgehammer all there PS3's :S
youve completey missed my point did i say there was no paedos on 360? NOOOO and what i was meaning is that if there was a paedo on xbox live you can block him and report him and his rep goes down and he wont pay 35 quid just to talk to you again but on psn like alot of people have sayed is that they will find you and keep harassing you and like what moss said whne a girl appears on home they swarm on her like bees on honey and come on youve got stay at home and no work virgins like svd in your ps3 fanboy corner and people like that are probz the reason why there is no voice chat cause who wants to hear this
psn user: wow this match is good svd grasshopper: *heavy breathing* aggggggent psn user: what? svd grasshopper: sorry my c**k was wrapped in the middle of my ps3 magazine oooooo agent psn user: im only 8 svd grasshopper: yummmy *heavy breathing*
Come on. SVD may be a complete idiot and talk complete rubbish but to refer to him as a paedophile is low and childish.
or you could all grow up and realise that what you're bickering about isn't really important.
I know it's childish but it's rivalry! look back through generations and all you see is rivalry between 2 sets of people standing up for what they believe is the right way!
So I call out to all my 360 brothers and lets wage war upon the PS3 generation haha! I'm off now to ram raid currys and sledgehammer all there PS3's :S
Yes, but back then we were all kids in playgrounds. The thing that gets me is that people that own 360s and PS3s are generally indistinguishable from each other, yet feel the need to have a war. At least back in the days of Mods and Rockers you could tell them apart.
dammit conkers now i have a strange urge to watch quadrophenia.
'It's genetics innit?' 'Yeah, 'is Nans a midget'
And more, perhaps pertinent to those who feel a need to side with an electronics box manufacturer:
"I don't give a monkey's bottomhole about Mods and Rockers. Underneath, we're all the same, 'n't we?"
"Look, I don't wanna be the same as everybody else. That's why I'm a Mod, see? I mean, you gotta be somebody, ain't ya, or you might as well jump in the sea and drown."
I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING GRASSHOPPER IS THAT YOUR A KIND OF CREEP WHO WOULD TOUCH UP AND EYETOY CUZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE
Dorian,
I’ve been ignoring your vitriol for weeks now, but your constant bashing of the PS3 has convinced me of the need to take action!
I can assure you that there are more degenerates on Xbox Live than PSN. FACT!
How do I know this you ask? Well, I’ll tell you....
My long-suffering flatmate is a Sales Manager for a digital-forensics firm whose main activity is extracting data from digital devices in order to prepare it for presentation in court – e.g. “expert witness” work and the like.
I asked him which platform was the most rife with creeps and he said that if one excludes the PC and focuses solely on the consoles it is the 360 without any shadow of a doubt! Next, I asked him to give me the reasons and they were as follows:
a) Loads more people speak on Live so it is much easier to pick out potential targets.
b) There are more people on Live.
c) Live has been established for longer.
d) The repeat offender dorian2011 confessed in his parole meeting that he owns a 360 and a subscription to Live!
Is that your flatmate who I seem to remember you said owns two PS3's????
I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING GRASSHOPPER IS THAT YOUR A KIND OF CREEP WHO WOULD TOUCH UP AND EYETOY CUZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE
Dorian,
I’ve been ignoring your vitriol for weeks now, but your constant bashing of the PS3 has convinced me of the need to take action!
I can assure you that there are more degenerates on Xbox Live than PSN. FACT!
How do I know this you ask? Well, I’ll tell you....
My long-suffering flatmate is a Sales Manager for a digital-forensics firm whose main activity is extracting data from digital devices in order to prepare it for presentation in court – e.g. “expert witness” work and the like.
I asked him which platform was the most rife with creeps and he said that if one excludes the PC and focuses solely on the consoles it is the 360 without any shadow of a doubt! Next, I asked him to give me the reasons and they were as follows:
a) Loads more people speak on Live so it is much easier to pick out potential targets.
b) There are more people on Live.
c) Live has been established for longer.
d) The repeat offender dorian2011 confessed in his parole meeting that he owns a 360 and a subscription to Live!
Is that your flatmate who I seem to remember you said owns two PS3's????
do we need 3d games? no, do we need motion controlled games? no, both are fads and a total waste of time, does anyone get up and turn the tv over by the button on the tv? no they use the remote control, i'm not dancing around like a gimp infront of my console when i can just push a button on the controller... same with 3d, its a gimmic you have all probably watched a film or 2 in 3d, but would you want every film or tv program to be in 3d? i dont think so, what will make a real difference right away to xbox, a console thats reliable and runs silently
I can't see anyone releasing a new console for the next 2 years. They are all selling well, the Wii is selling circles around the PS3 and 360, so Nintendo isn't about to shoot themselves in the foot. But to wager a guess on who will make the first move, I would say Microsoft. Why? They were first to market had a year lead and was passed in less than 6 months by a clearly underpowered system, PS3 which was considerably more expensive caught up and is riding their coattails. They also had well known problems 360's dying and lawsuits. Great system when it's working, but big talk doesn't win market share, it's product and quality of said product.
A redesign of 360 might be nice, whoever designed the original was a retard. This is by far the ugliest system to have in your entertainment center. PS3(original) being the most attractive, followed by the shiny Apple-esque Wii(black is awesome), 360 is definitely not pretty standing next to those two. Right now no new console, but redisign once they figure out how not to make the system overheat, but that might be a waste as the core buyer has either system or both. It's nearing the end of the window of opportunity to release a slim model.
So the Megadrive sold more than the SNES worldwide did it?
No, but out of the three main regions (US, Europe, and Japan) the Megadrive/Genesis outsold the SNES in two of them. The only region in which the SNES sold better, was the smallest one, Japan.
Not strictly true... the PSNetwork was around on the PS2 before the Xbox made its appearance, only Sony (in all their short-sighted wisdom) didn't think online gaming was going to be that big of a deal so they pretty much ignored it.
"I can't see Nintendo releasing a Wii HD. They are close to the lifecycle end and therefore are surely more likely to release a whole new console. If they do and it turns out (as rumoured) a return to the graphical powerhouse, then MS will need to come up with a new console. Especially as I would expect the next nintendo console to compete quite well on the online and media front judging by the change of heart that has been shown by nintendo."
I doubt 'wintendo' will release another winning console that supports the latest HD tech, as this would result in a higher price which wouldn't appeal to all the families that currently own a Wii. Wintendo seem content in providing family based games that don't require great visuals. Microsoft however will probably launch after Sony this time round, but I doubt we'll see anything until after 2013
I don't think they need to make a new console yet. The software is still cutting edge, and more and more developers are starting to master it to great effect. We are reaching a point in power-consoling where it is near its plateau, so unless there's something really significant that can be done to warrant a new console, there's no need. Plus, Microsoft have their hands full for Natal's design. That's going to be a big one and with that, there may never be a need for a new console until the software has aged considerably somehow.
So the Megadrive sold more than the SNES worldwide did it?
No, but out of the three main regions (US, Europe, and Japan) the Megadrive/Genesis outsold the SNES in two of them. The only region in which the SNES sold better, was the smallest one, Japan.
True, but it was a small difference (a million or two, backed up by wikipedia, no less!!), hardly a massive difference in any of the regions (apart from in favour of the SNES in Japan) and it definitely wasn't a "big win" as the article stated.
And it didn't make Nintendo rush out a console. In fact I think the Saturn was rushed, then they added an extra processor at the last minute of the design stage, which made it a pig to program for. I may be wrong here though.
The commercial failure of the Saturn (or more accurately the massive success of the PS1) definitely pushed the DC out earlier though.
So the Megadrive sold more than the SNES worldwide did it?
No, but out of the three main regions (US, Europe, and Japan) the Megadrive/Genesis outsold the SNES in two of them. The only region in which the SNES sold better, was the smallest one, Japan.
True, but it was a small difference (a million or two, backed up by wikipedia, no less!!), hardly a massive difference in any of the regions (apart from in favour of the SNES in Japan) and it definitely wasn't a "big win" as the article stated.
And it didn't make Nintendo rush out a console. In fact I think the Saturn was rushed, then they added an extra processor at the last minute of the design stage, which made it a pig to program for. I may be wrong here though.
The commercial failure of the Saturn (or more accurately the massive success of the PS1) definitely pushed the DC out earlier though.
Yeah but as the man was talking in a British paper, he pointed out the Megadrive because it trampled all over the Snes in this country.
WOW, IS THERE A POINT TO BE FOUND IN THAT POST? PS3 sells at a bigger loss and Sony's not Bankrupt yet. The Wii is selling, but to a disposable market which is harder to forecast.
So the Megadrive sold more than the SNES worldwide did it?
No, but out of the three main regions (US, Europe, and Japan) the Megadrive/Genesis outsold the SNES in two of them. The only region in which the SNES sold better, was the smallest one, Japan.
True, but it was a small difference (a million or two, backed up by wikipedia, no less!!), hardly a massive difference in any of the regions (apart from in favour of the SNES in Japan) and it definitely wasn't a "big win" as the article stated.
And it didn't make Nintendo rush out a console. In fact I think the Saturn was rushed, then they added an extra processor at the last minute of the design stage, which made it a pig to program for. I may be wrong here though.
The commercial failure of the Saturn (or more accurately the massive success of the PS1) definitely pushed the DC out earlier though.
Yeah but as the man was talking in a British paper, he pointed out the Megadrive because it trampled all over the Snes in this country.
If I remember correctly.
It did sell a lot more. My friends at the time mostly thought the SNES was "for kids"! My, how times have (not) changed!
Anyway, it makes absolutely no difference. He's talking about consoles that are released worldwide. A company which sells globally isn't going to rush out a new console because it just got outsold in the UK. Even more so as UK was a very small percentage of the market back then.
Just because you're writing in a British paper, doesn't mean you ignore the rest of the world! And the 64 was the last console released that gen, so the journalist is just plain wrong.
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and the fact im anonymous.
