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Heavy Rain freezing up

Sony rep suggests waiting five minutes, then rebooting
American Heavy Rain players have been reporting issues with game freezes.

Worse than that, the official PlayStation forums thread where the problems are being reported has also seen some players reporting corrupted save data.

It's hard to know how widespread the problem is, as almost every high profile release seems to have some players reporting similar issues, but the problem is big enough to warrant the appearance of a Sony rep to calm everyone down.

"Hi folks, this is just to let you know that the issues reported in this thread and elsewhere are being looked into," he says.

"One word of advice we've had already is to avoid switching off your PlayStation while the game is in black screen as this may be affecting your save game. There have been a few reports of incidents where game saves have taken longer than would normally be expected - and with a black screen present it may leave the assumption that the game has crashed. In these circumstances we recommend you wait at least 5 minutes before rebooting."

So if you have read our Heavy Rain review and decided to pick up a copy when the game hits stores this Friday, heed those words of advice.

Thanks to Joystiq

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God Sony, can't you have one original idea of your own?

Just copying MS's "switch it off then on again" technology is so lame.
ricflair on 25 Feb '10
FFS Sony, stop screwing up you bunch of monkeys!

Anyway, lets see if this affects the PAL release too. It could just be limited to the USA relesae, hopefully I'll find out today as I got an email yesterday saying that Play had already put my copy in the post.
only_777 on 25 Feb '10
This puts me in a dilemma. My copy is at home, now do I take the risk and play it, or wait until a proper fix is available....

Mass Effect 2 tonight it is then. Cool
Black Mantis on 25 Feb '10
"Heavy Rain freezing up"

Of course it would in the winter, it's called Snow. Thought everyone would be used to it by now. Razz
wrightandrewjame on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.
FiltyMonkey on 25 Feb '10
I'm going to hold on until this is fixed then.
nottsville on 25 Feb '10
filtymonkey, shut up you assclown. i've got the game, there is a 220mb update as soon as you load it up and trust me, there are no issues at all having played it for most of the morning. always trying to find something to fanboy about in here.
Sinthetic on 25 Feb '10
I was playing Heavy Rain for several hours yesterday and I didn't encounter a single problem, I had to download a 200mb patch though before I could start playing so perhaps they have already fixed it.
big chief on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

It always makes me laugh how the real fanboys are the ones who brand others 'fanboys' and troll through the news looking for any excuse to make pointless comments.

Sony exclusives and mediocre scores? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4... mediocre, eh? Rolling Eyes
Gambini on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

This is why us Xbox owners get a bad reputation. Leave it out.

I'm not the biggest fan of patches to fix problems that shouldn't have been let out the door, but I expect there to be one imminent to sort this one out. Although some of the reported problems sound more like user error (thinking it's crashed, when it was saved during a black screen) than a problem with the code.
altitude2k on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

This is why us Xbox owners get a bad reputation. Leave it out.

I'm not the biggest fan of patches to fix problems that shouldn't have been let out the door, but I expect there to be one imminent to sort this one out. Although some of the reported problems sound more like user error (thinking it's crashed, when it was saved during a black screen) than a problem with the code.

there is already one out.
Sinthetic on 25 Feb '10
Then there you have it. Job done.

Tea and biscuits, anyone?
altitude2k on 25 Feb '10
Christ a 200MB patch? For people on slow lines thats a while to wait to play their new game.

What you kinda take for granted on the 360 eh, and its insta-patching. Smile

I'm waiting a month or so, Zavvi or ShopTo will probably offer it half price.
Bibbo on 25 Feb '10
no chance in hell it'll be half price in a month. it's in the top 10 best selling for the week in japan and the top selling game on amazon uk and u.s
Sinthetic on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

Like Gambini said. Those games all got great scores regardless if you like them or not. At least Sony try something different with their own exclusives, unlike M$ who just shove a new Halo, Gears of War, Forza or Fable in our faces every couple or so years. Besides, its not like those games (a generic FPS, a glitchy shooter and another average game from Mr Overhyped among them) are worth the praise and scores they get Rolling Eyes

Aaaaand, before anyone says it: I'm not a Sony fanboy. I'm just stating something obvious Very Happy
JuiKuen on 25 Feb '10
Well, maybe Forza does for its technical brilliance, but it was never a game that interested me.

As for the topic, I do feel that games in this day and age should be ready when going out of the door. Like Bibbo said, not everyone has a fast connection and it sucks to wait to play a game in this way
JuiKuen on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

It always makes me laugh how the real fanboys are the ones who brand others 'fanboys' and troll through the news looking for any excuse to make pointless comments.

Sony exclusives and mediocre scores? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4... mediocre, eh? Rolling Eyes

So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.
FiltyMonkey on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

This is why us Xbox owners get a bad reputation. Leave it out.

I'm not the biggest fan of patches to fix problems that shouldn't have been let out the door, but I expect there to be one imminent to sort this one out. Although some of the reported problems sound more like user error (thinking it's crashed, when it was saved during a black screen) than a problem with the code.

respect due, yes please for tea and bicky
martinawatson on 25 Feb '10
Would've at least expected some Heavy Snow before it started turning to ice...
PS3_fannyboy on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

Like Gambini said. Those games all got great scores regardless if you like them or not. At least Sony try something different with their own exclusives, unlike M$ who just shove a new Halo, Gears of War, Forza or Fable in our faces every couple or so years. Besides, its not like those games (a generic FPS, a glitchy shooter and another average game from Mr Overhyped among them) are worth the praise and scores they get Rolling Eyes

Aaaaand, before anyone says it: I'm not a Sony fanboy. I'm just stating something obvious Very Happy

Yeah, but you do seem to really hate 'M$' though dude. And Fable is fooking amazing (although I seem to remember a patch or two for that bug fest)!
ricflair on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

This is why us Xbox owners get a bad reputation. Leave it out.

I'm not the biggest fan of patches to fix problems that shouldn't have been let out the door, but I expect there to be one imminent to sort this one out. Although some of the reported problems sound more like user error (thinking it's crashed, when it was saved during a black screen) than a problem with the code.

respect due, yes please for tea and bicky

I try to calm the waters, bring some level headedness and niceties to the thread.

Still turns into a shitstorm. Oh well.
altitude2k on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

It always makes me laugh how the real fanboys are the ones who brand others 'fanboys' and troll through the news looking for any excuse to make pointless comments.

Sony exclusives and mediocre scores? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4... mediocre, eh? Rolling Eyes

So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

Wow, pro-Sony posters in a PS3 game-related thread. That's shocking.
spacelion on 25 Feb '10
no problems here, been playing for about 4 hours
allygray69 on 25 Feb '10
Really hope this doesn't effect UK release, screen freezes are bane of my gaming life, gave up on Fallout3 on PS3 because of them, even had a freeze in Uncharted 2 in later stages. Began to wonder if it was a faulty console I had but its only a very few games it happens with. It does sound like a save problem rather than screen problem though. I'll wait till price drops for mine. I hate having to get a patch to make the game work properly though, I buy a cd and get the finished product, same with a dvd/film, I fully expect a game on the shop shelves to be finished. Gaming companies seem to get away with it though.
gideonseer on 25 Feb '10
One pitfall of the popularity of the internet. Developers take their foot off the gas when it comes to quality. Release a game with a few bugs knowing they can patch at a later date. It should be perfect from the start. It had to be when games were on cartridge and CD etc. But I guess games are much more complex now. They have a tougher job.
kimoak on 25 Feb '10
That's the best thing about the yanks getting games first. They get the glitches and we get the improved version
jadehill2001 on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

This is why us Xbox owners get a bad reputation. Leave it out.

I'm not the biggest fan of patches to fix problems that shouldn't have been let out the door, but I expect there to be one imminent to sort this one out. Although some of the reported problems sound more like user error (thinking it's crashed, when it was saved during a black screen) than a problem with the code.

respect due, yes please for tea and bicky

I try to calm the waters, bring some level headedness and niceties to the thread.

Still turns into a shitstorm. Oh well.

I'm sorry Alt, It is childish and trollish but no sooner did I mention the list of exclusives and someone puts up a list of exclusives.

Can I have some of that cake?
FiltyMonkey on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

This is why us Xbox owners get a bad reputation. Leave it out.

I'm not the biggest fan of patches to fix problems that shouldn't have been let out the door, but I expect there to be one imminent to sort this one out. Although some of the reported problems sound more like user error (thinking it's crashed, when it was saved during a black screen) than a problem with the code.

respect due, yes please for tea and bicky

I try to calm the waters, bring some level headedness and niceties to the thread.

Still turns into a shitstorm. Oh well.

I'm sorry Alt, It is childish and trollish but no sooner did I mention the list of exclusives and someone puts up a list of exclusives.

Can I have some of that cake?

You can have rock cake.....made of rocks!

I will allow Earl Grey to go with it, though.
altitude2k on 25 Feb '10
'Hate' is a stroing word, ric Wink

Ha ha, no its just that I don't see anything in them that is remotely interesting. All their products on the whole are average or of less quality (including their service). The fact they pat themselves a little too much on the back too is even more daft considering how average their product is.

I'm not saying I never had fun with my 360 at the time. I did. But those games (their exclusives) for me grow boring very quickly and I don't care so much for online gaming on the whole anymore(especially when paying for it). Most of the games for it bar Dead Rising I can get for the PS3 if I so choose in the future. I was just saying that Sony's (and even Nintendo's) exclusives are more varied and interesting. M$'s games don't really push the bar of imagination enough for me
JuiKuen on 25 Feb '10
So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

I wouldn't call you a fanboy, I'd call you a troll becuase thats clearly what you are. Evidence of that, is this:
Instead of talking on-topic you steer straight into the area of flame-comment. There was no call for it, no one attacked you, you just started to flame with no reason.

Respect to altitude2k though.
only_777 on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

It always makes me laugh how the real fanboys are the ones who brand others 'fanboys' and troll through the news looking for any excuse to make pointless comments.

Sony exclusives and mediocre scores? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4... mediocre, eh? Rolling Eyes

So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

Wow, pro-Sony posters in a PS3 game-related thread. That's shocking.

Pro-Sony posters everywhere asshole
FiltyMonkey on 25 Feb '10
Well, maybe Forza does for its technical brilliance, but it was never a game that interested me.

As for the topic, I do feel that games in this day and age should be ready when going out of the door. Like Bibbo said, not everyone has a fast connection and it sucks to wait to play a game in this way

Forza is brilliant. I've been making my way through it over the past few weeks (slowly, I might add) and I'm really enjoying it. I'm not going to get into the whole debate about whether it'll be better than Gran Turismo though.

I do agree about games being ready on release. My brother owned a PS3 for a while and found all these updates tiresome - it was pretty much the only complaint he had about the console, but I think it'd bug me too. I'm just not sure why the PS3 can't have the same update system as XBox Live, where they literally take seconds.

Anyone know why?

Smile
ParmaViolet on 25 Feb '10
So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

I wouldn't call you a fanboy, I'd call you a troll becuase thats clearly what you are. Evidence of that, is this:
Instead of talking on-topic you steer straight into the area of flame-comment. There was no call for it, no one attacked you, you just started to flame with no reason.

Respect to altitude2k though.

You can have a scone.
altitude2k on 25 Feb '10
So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

I wouldn't call you a fanboy, I'd call you a troll becuase thats clearly what you are. Evidence of that, is this:
Instead of talking on-topic you steer straight into the area of flame-comment. There was no call for it, no one attacked you, you just started to flame with no reason.

Respect to altitude2k though.

Of course you'd call me a troll because you're not happy unless someone has a lable.
Why does it bother you what I think anyway. It's not like we're curing cancer here - They're just games. Big woop.
FiltyMonkey on 25 Feb '10
So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

I wouldn't call you a fanboy, I'd call you a troll becuase thats clearly what you are. Evidence of that, is this:
Instead of talking on-topic you steer straight into the area of flame-comment. There was no call for it, no one attacked you, you just started to flame with no reason.

Respect to altitude2k though.

You can have a scone.

*Takes scone, and dashes home to play Heavy Rain.
only_777 on 25 Feb '10
Hail, the frozen Heavy Rain.

/me runs
lonewolf2002 on 25 Feb '10
No problems here either and I've been on it about 3 and a half hours. I guess its just an unlucky few. Dont see why some people make such a big deal of it. Keyboard warriors hard at work again Laughing
gogo65uk on 25 Feb '10
whatever happened to Sleet? Laughing



are we all sure that it's a 200mb patch and not a 200kb patch(just wanna be sure),because if it is mb then that's the biggest patch i have ever heard of.....that's DLC size
metallicorphan on 25 Feb '10
I just want to know whether the game's actually good. I can see it's all very pretty and everything- but I'm still a little concerned with the lack of any actual game to play- that alongside from the reviews I've read state the story is a bit crap... and the story is the whole point of the game so... err...

Fahrenhiet was very hit and miss- and then by the end it was just miss. Hope this ain't the same.

Still on the fence- guess I'll rent it first.
MrPirtniw on 25 Feb '10
So many asswipes to choose from...

Why does it bother you what I think anyway.

Don't be suprised when people get p**sed off with you, not long after you call a load of people "asswipes" becuase they have spoken out about your trolling.

Now leave it at that.
-------heading back on topic-------
A 200MB update!? Well 'll go home lunch time from work and download the update while the PSN is less-busy. Tonight @ around 5pm getting the update will be sloooooow.

Also has anyone here actually had this problem, or was it just some dumb americans mistaking a black loading/saving screen for a crash?
only_777 on 25 Feb '10
So many asswipes to choose from...

Why does it bother you what I think anyway.

Don't be suprised when people get p**sed off with you, not long after you call a load of people "asswipes" becuase they have spoken out about your trolling.

Now leave it at that.
-------heading back on topic-------
A 200MB update!? Well 'll go home lunch time from work and download the update while the PSN is less-busy. Tonight @ around 5pm getting the update will be sloooooow.

Also has anyone here actually had this problem, or was it just some dumb americans mistaking a black loading/saving screen for a crash?

I apologise for being crass, but you're just called an entire nation dumb.

but it's true.
FiltyMonkey on 25 Feb '10


I just want to know whether the game's actually good. I can see it's all very pretty and everything- but I'm still a little concerned with the lack of any actual game to play- that alongside from the reviews I've read state the story is a bit crap... and the story is the whole point of the game so... err...

Fahrenhiet was very hit and miss- and then by the end it was just miss. Hope this ain't the same.

Still on the fence- guess I'll rent it first

I was in the same boat but was going to get it due to it being something a little different to the norm, and lets face it you can trade it in after a couple of weeks or so and not lose too much cash on it. But dont think i will be getting it now due to some artard on here who left a huge spoiler pretty much ruining the point of murder mystery game for me really.
Adam81uk on 25 Feb '10
I just want to know whether the game's actually good. I can see it's all very pretty and everything- but I'm still a little concerned with the lack of any actual game to play- that alongside from the reviews I've read state the story is a bit crap... and the story is the whole point of the game so... err...

Fahrenhiet was very hit and miss- and then by the end it was just miss. Hope this ain't the same.

Still on the fence- guess I'll rent it first.

Yeah, I've been filled with doubts since playing the demo and reading some reviews/opinions. IGN's second opinion article has me concerned, as one them mentioned the game is great up until the end, when it leaves some big plot-holes.

I'd have cancelled my order if it wasn't for the CE from HMV to be honest, as it comes with the first DLC chapter free if you pre-order.
Black Mantis on 25 Feb '10
There's probably already a patch to fix this anyway so I'm not bothered.
Marlonjb on 25 Feb '10
WARNING- SORT OF SPOILER ALERT. BUT NOT REALLY... BUT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ IT... NOT THAT I GIVE AWAY ANYTHING... Oh, sod it- just don't read through the comments on the Heavy Rain review, alright?

@Adam- yeah- I saw that too. First off, what a complete pleb for ruining the story for everyone else. Secondly, if it's true then it's not a very good twist.

@Blackmantis- hmmm, any bad acting/plot holes and rubbish stories would make a rubbish film- and this game is mostly an interactive film so i'll continue to rub my unshaven chin a bit more for the time being.
MrPirtniw on 25 Feb '10
WARNING- SORT OF SPOILER ALERT. BUT NOT REALLY... BUT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ IT... NOT THAT I GIVE AWAY ANYTHING... Oh, sod it- just don't read through the comments on the Heavy Rain review, alright?

@Adam- yeah- I saw that too. First off, what a complete pleb for ruining the story for everyone else. Secondly, if it's true then it's not a very good twist.

@Blackmantis- hmmm, any bad acting/plot holes and rubbish stories would make a rubbish film- and this game is mostly an interactive film so i'll continue to rub my unshaven chin a bit more for the time being.

I'll sell you my copy for £20 when I'm done. Deal?
Black Mantis on 25 Feb '10
I just want to know whether the game's actually good. I can see it's all very pretty and everything- but I'm still a little concerned with the lack of any actual game to play- that alongside from the reviews I've read state the story is a bit crap... and the story is the whole point of the game so... err...

Fahrenhiet was very hit and miss- and then by the end it was just miss. Hope this ain't the same.

Still on the fence- guess I'll rent it first.

stop sitting on the fence and be part of something that actually matters in gaming, something very rarely done. something that makes you happy and the next scene makes you cry.

it may not be a game in a traditional sense, you don't jump on people to kill them or shoot "bitches" in the face. but what is here is a game, a journey and an experience.

the first hour alone got my adrenaline up sky high and gave me genuine feel of what having a family of my own would be like.

to me, that is UNMISSABLE.
Sinthetic on 25 Feb '10
This is definitely a rental for me.

I never enjoyed indigo prophecy much so i know what to expect with this.
I think waiting a bit before i play it will help sort out some of the teething problems it seems to have as well.

I'm slightly put off by a couple of very poor reviews of it of late as well.
The 2 sites that gave it a terrible review are not that well known(got the link from metacritic), but then again there's a bucketload of good scores for it from sites i've never heard of as well.
It only got 7/10 in Edge magazine as well, i usually like their reviews.

I'll give it go, but i'm not expecting much.
blagger on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

It always makes me laugh how the real fanboys are the ones who brand others 'fanboys' and troll through the news looking for any excuse to make pointless comments.

Sony exclusives and mediocre scores? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4... mediocre, eh? Rolling Eyes

So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

Wow, pro-Sony posters in a PS3 game-related thread. That's shocking.

Pro-Sony posters everywhere asshole

Then try being a bit more specific with what you mean, douche. You said in here, suggesting you were referring to this thread in particular. If you were referring to the CVG forums as a whole, then you should have used on here. Not my fault if I misconstrue what you mean due to your less than perfect grasp of semantics.
spacelion on 25 Feb '10
@ Parma:

"Forza is brilliant. I've been making my way through it over the past few weeks (slowly, I might add) and I'm really enjoying it. I'm not going to get into the whole debate about whether it'll be better than Gran Turismo though."

Yeah, its technically brilliant. As is the GT series. I'm just not really into both. Not my thing
JuiKuen on 25 Feb '10
WARNING- SORT OF SPOILER ALERT. BUT NOT REALLY... BUT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ IT... NOT THAT I GIVE AWAY ANYTHING... Oh, sod it- just don't read through the comments on the Heavy Rain review, alright?

@Adam- yeah- I saw that too. First off, what a complete pleb for ruining the story for everyone else. Secondly, if it's true then it's not a very good twist.

@Blackmantis- hmmm, any bad acting/plot holes and rubbish stories would make a rubbish film- and this game is mostly an interactive film so i'll continue to rub my unshaven chin a bit more for the time being.

Yeah i agree if the spoiler was true then its pretty stupid twist but at the same time i did play Fahrenheit so maybe some truth in it, guess the only way i will find out is getting the game as i really dont want to search the internet about it and ruin any twists completely.

I was pretty stupid to read comments in the review section but wanted to gage opinion and how it related to other reviews wasn't expecting the ending to have been potentially given away to me. Shame as its really split me on whether to get the game now when it was previously a certain buy.
Adam81uk on 25 Feb '10
I actually think fanboys of any kind are lower than chavs in the social ladder. They should simply be lined up and shot in the head and then bill the parents for the bullet. Then kill the parents to be sure they don't have anymore retard c**t kids.
gogo65uk on 25 Feb '10
@ Parma:

"Forza is brilliant. I've been making my way through it over the past few weeks (slowly, I might add) and I'm really enjoying it. I'm not going to get into the whole debate about whether it'll be better than Gran Turismo though."

Yeah, its technically brilliant. As is the GT series. I'm just not really into both. Not my thing

Have to agree, i mean i just don't see the point in collecting cars to store in my garage. Am sure online is great but racers should be moving forward in single player - i thought Toca Racing Driver did a good job for others to build on storywise etc alas no-one has picked up the batton.

For me an F1 game including all the controversies that go with it story wise would be fab, having a team mate that hates you and constant pressure on testing sessions to develope your car and catch up with ur rivals etc. tho am probably in the minority and others want to see shinier cars and better weather effects.
Adam81uk on 25 Feb '10
mine turned up this morning. No problems so far. Thought doing origami during the install was a nice touch.

Bored of fanboy bickering. aren't we a gaming community. Why do we have to section ourselves off into little tribes.

Both the ps3 360 and wii have plenty of decent exclusives. all have games that are buggy too.

Unite and enjoy our hobby people.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 25 Feb '10


I apologise for being crass, but you're just called an entire nation dumb.

but it's true.

Apology Accepted Very Happy

----I have the update!----
I can confirm that the update is 226MB, and it took me 4 minutes on my Virgin 10mb Connection at 1:15pm. I encounted no problems installing, loading, saving or playing the game on my 60gig PS3.

As for the game, its ace! Can't wait to finish work and get stuck in. Roll on 5pm.
only_777 on 25 Feb '10
As much as I want this game I've had to hold off purchasing it, there was a rather large unexpected financial outlay this month so now it has to wait... Crying or Very sad
milky_joe on 25 Feb '10
Putting this as the top news story is a real good idea...

Resist the temptation, people!
altitude2k on 25 Feb '10
I hate that message you get when you reboot your PS3 without shutting it down properly.

Sort out your fucking games before you release them so I don't have to see that message every time they crash. And I'm talking to you Bethesda!!!
Squall5005 on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

It always makes me laugh how the real fanboys are the ones who brand others 'fanboys' and troll through the news looking for any excuse to make pointless comments.

Sony exclusives and mediocre scores? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4... mediocre, eh? Rolling Eyes

So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

Wow, pro-Sony posters in a PS3 game-related thread. That's shocking.

Pro-Sony posters everywhere asshole

Then try being a bit more specific with what you mean, douche. You said in here, suggesting you were referring to this thread in particular. If you were referring to the CVG forums as a whole, then you should have used on here. Not my fault if I misconstrue what you mean due to your less than perfect grasp of semantics.

Seriously....get laid.
FiltyMonkey on 25 Feb '10
@Blackmantis: Sold! Wink
MrPirtniw on 25 Feb '10
WTF will waiting 5 minutes do?!

its a machine.
svd_grasshopper on 25 Feb '10
Dump excess memory all kinds of things. Computers can benefit quite a lot from being turned off, left for a bit and then turned on again.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 25 Feb '10
filtymonkey, shut up you assclown. i've got the game, there is a 220mb update as soon as you load it up and trust me, there are no issues at all having played it for most of the morning. always trying to find something to fanboy about in here.

220mb patch this is why Sony should stick to making hardware the update process is such a joke on the PS3 . The maximum update allowed for any 360 game is 4mb.
pp82 on 25 Feb '10
Wait a minute, a game was released... with bugs?!

Hold the front page, CVG!

If only there was something that somebody somewhere could do to fix this most heinous problem! Perhaps a method of somehow, say releasing a small self-executing file to "patch in" fixed code over the problematic, broken parts... Rolling Eyes
SunScramble on 25 Feb '10
people who squabble over consoles are losers. xbox lovers trying to get one up on the ps3 owners and vice versa. i have both consoles and love them both and both machines have their flaws
daley86 on 25 Feb '10
filtymonkey, shut up you assclown. i've got the game, there is a 220mb update as soon as you load it up and trust me, there are no issues at all having played it for most of the morning. always trying to find something to fanboy about in here.

220mb patch this is why Sony should stick to making hardware the update process is such a joke on the PS3 . The maximum update allowed for any 360 game is 4mb.

I thought the limitation on 360 patches was due to the fact that not everyone has an over priced hard drive
Squall5005 on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

It always makes me laugh how the real fanboys are the ones who brand others 'fanboys' and troll through the news looking for any excuse to make pointless comments.

Sony exclusives and mediocre scores? Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4... mediocre, eh? Rolling Eyes

So many asswipes to choose from...I'll pick you, firstly, I own both machines and I just happen to prefer the Xbox. It's not fanboyism but if you want to pideon hole me thats fair enough. The only reason I'm holding on to the PS3 is for God of War 3 and not the likes of MAG & White Knight Chronicles which have only received mediocre reviews.

Too many Pro-Sony posters in here.

Wow, pro-Sony posters in a PS3 game-related thread. That's shocking.

Pro-Sony posters everywhere asshole

Then try being a bit more specific with what you mean, douche. You said in here, suggesting you were referring to this thread in particular. If you were referring to the CVG forums as a whole, then you should have used on here. Not my fault if I misconstrue what you mean due to your less than perfect grasp of semantics.

Seriously....get laid.

LMAO Class Laughing
TW15T3D on 25 Feb '10
Am i the only person that isnt remotely interested in this game? Primarily because there is little in the way of an actual game to play - watch 5 mins press square, watch 30 seconds press circle - come on, dont believe the hype its like the old 80's game whos name escapes me with a cartoon Knight. Seriously powerful peice of hardware to show effectively an interactive dvd? No thanks !
ianrhodes on 25 Feb '10
Am i the only person that isnt remotely interested in this game? Primarily because there is little in the way of an actual game to play - watch 5 mins press square, watch 30 seconds press circle - come on, dont believe the hype its like the old 80's game whos name escapes me with a cartoon Knight. Seriously powerful peice of hardware to show effectively an interactive dvd? No thanks !

Dragon's Lair.
Squall5005 on 25 Feb '10
I don't know if any one has already mentioned this or knows about (CVG would you know?) but it seems that Heavy Rain has been pulled from sale from all the major websites (Game, Gamestaion, Gameplay etc.) does hvae anything to do with the Issues in the report?
Osiris25 on 25 Feb '10
I don't know if any one has already mentioned this or knows about (CVG would you know?) but it seems that Heavy Rain has been pulled from sale from all the major websites (Game, Gamestaion, Gameplay etc.) does hvae anything to do with the Issues in the report?

Hmmmm...that is interesting.

It's still on HMV's site I've noticed. But who knows, they might pull it too.
Squall5005 on 25 Feb '10
I don't know if any one has already mentioned this or knows about (CVG would you know?) but it seems that Heavy Rain has been pulled from sale from all the major websites (Game, Gamestaion, Gameplay etc.) does hvae anything to do with the Issues in the report?

Maybe preorders have used up their stock?
altitude2k on 25 Feb '10
If this is the case, i'm not going to be opening my Heavy Rain yet.. Mass Effect 2 will be on tonight or maybe Dragon Age Origins..

I'm not playing a half-finished game, and with various glitches in the game aswell as this.. It is starting to worry me how lazy Quantum may have been in the Games Testing stage.


Ninja hooker glitch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxiC0AToclM
Stuck in-between Stairs-space: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryi80S9JOTg
Hand-cuffs float around the screen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djnQFXgfsRE

And the sound also pops in and out of play reports say.



No thanks... i'll wait a week or so.... T_T;
KMakawa on 25 Feb '10
Maybe preorders have used up their stock?

Normally they still show it listed though and you go on back order. Plus Gameplay.com actually says its been delisted from their website when you click on the link to buy. I just wonder whether Sony or whoever is responible has decided to pull at last minute because of the bugs.
Osiris25 on 25 Feb '10
Maybe preorders have used up their stock?

Normally they still show it listed though and you go on back order. Plus Gameplay.com actually says its been delisted from their website when you click on the link to buy. I just wonder whether Sony or whoever is responible has decided to pull at last minute because of the bugs.

I have seen before that when preorders run out it's removed from the website. Once it's the day of release you get more unreserved stock. When that's used up they don't remove it, just say "out of stock". Kinda like they don't want to say "out of stock" for a product that isn't yet released.
altitude2k on 25 Feb '10
Maybe preorders have used up their stock?

Normally they still show it listed though and you go on back order. Plus Gameplay.com actually says its been delisted from their website when you click on the link to buy. I just wonder whether Sony or whoever is responible has decided to pull at last minute because of the bugs.

If this is the case (and yeah, I agree about the out of stock thing, they don't actual delist just back-order it) However if this is the case it has to be one of the serious gaming flops of the previous years... I mean so much hype and excitement surrounding this game.. Only to fall down on its feet due to bugs.

But then again, it raises the question -- Did they have a bug-testing session at all?!
KMakawa on 25 Feb '10
I won't be taking the risk of playing it until Sony issue a proper statement, my copy of MGS 4 should be at home as well come to think of it and I'd rather play that anyway.
Black Mantis on 25 Feb '10
How many new games need patches? Just about all.

I cant remember the last game I played that didnt install 1.01 first.

look at MW2, how many patches did that get in the first weeks?

Not a big deal, unless you dont have your console linked up ADSL.
Barca Azul on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

I had an Xbox 360 and enjoyed the following (3 RROD occurences, on Xbox 360, later before I gave up) …

Gears of War (Meta 94)
Halo 3 (Meta 94)
Gears of War 2 (Meta 93)
Forza 2 (Meta 90)
Call of Duty 2 (Meta 89)
Fable 2 (Meta 89)
PGR4 (Meta 85)
Crackdown (Meta 83)
Prey (Meta 79)
Blue Dragon (Meta 79)

On Sony's machine since purchase, I've enjoyed...

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Meta 96)
Little Big Planet (Meta 95)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (Meta Critic 94)
Killzone 2 (Meta 91)
Ratchet and Clank TOD (Meta 89)
Uncharted (Meta 8Cool
Resistance 2 (Meta 87)
Valkrie Chronicles (Meta 86)
Infamous (Meta 85)
Warhawk (Meta 84)
Resistance (Meta 84)
Pacific Rift (Meta 82)
Motorstorm (Meta 82)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Meta 80)
Heavenly Sword (Meta 79)
MAG (Meta 76)

I don't know but apart from Mass Effect 2, I don’t think I've missed too much on Xbox 360, will get another when Halo Reach comes out.
starsail on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

I had an Xbox 360 and enjoyed the following (3 RROD occurences, on Xbox 360, later before I gave up) …

Gears of War (Meta 94)
Halo 3 (Meta 94)
Gears of War 2 (Meta 93)
Forza 2 (Meta 90)
Call of Duty 2 (Meta 89)
Fable 2 (Meta 89)
PGR4 (Meta 85)
Crackdown (Meta 83)
Prey (Meta 79)
Blue Dragon (Meta 79)

On Sony's machine since purchase, I've enjoyed...

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Meta 96)
Little Big Planet (Meta 95)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (Meta Critic 94)
Killzone 2 (Meta 91)
Ratchet and Clank TOD (Meta 89)
Uncharted (Meta 8Cool
Resistance 2 (Meta 87)
Valkrie Chronicles (Meta 86)
Infamous (Meta 85)
Warhawk (Meta 84)
Resistance (Meta 84)
Pacific Rift (Meta 82)
Motorstorm (Meta 82)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Meta 80)
Heavenly Sword (Meta 79)
MAG (Meta 76)

I don't know but apart from Mass Effect 2, I don’t think I've missed too much on Xbox 360, will get another when Halo Reach comes out.

QUIT MAKING THESE STUPID LISTS... IT'S NOT LIKE WE ACTUALLY CARE.
KMakawa on 25 Feb '10
i just shot someone by accident, and got a trophy. this game is good people.
Sinthetic on 25 Feb '10
Im not sure if any one is going to read this but has anyone noticed that game has just like deleted heavy rain from all records on their website u search it it come up with things bout battlefield bc 2 and if u go to the articles bit click one then try to click the link to heavy rain u are redirected to the main page wtf!?

maybe i missed something important but could some one shed some light please!
steveboy32 on 25 Feb '10
''heavy rain freezing''

so many jokes not enough time
kratosfenix on 25 Feb '10
Im not sure if any one is going to read this but has anyone noticed that game has just like deleted heavy rain from all records on their website u search it it come up with things bout battlefield bc 2 and if u go to the articles bit click one then try to click the link to heavy rain u are redirected to the main page wtf!?

maybe i missed something important but could some one shed some light please!


Yeah I've mentioned earlier on, but glad someone else has find the same thing. Its bizarre to completely remove it from the websites altogther even if they have no stock left. I done some searching around but no answers on why yet.
Osiris25 on 25 Feb '10
Im not sure if any one is going to read this but has anyone noticed that game has just like deleted heavy rain from all records on their website u search it it come up with things bout battlefield bc 2 and if u go to the articles bit click one then try to click the link to heavy rain u are redirected to the main page wtf!?

maybe i missed something important but could some one shed some light please!


Yeah I've mentioned earlier on, but glad someone else has find the same thing. Its bizarre to completely remove it from the websites altogther even if they have no stock left. I done some searching around but no answers on why yet.

I've contacted GAME via email, let's see if they give a response.
KMakawa on 25 Feb '10
Showing on play still

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/6459957/Heavy-Rain/Product.html?cur=257

and Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Heavy-Rain-PS3/dp/B002BWONF8/ref=pd_ts_zgc_vg_h__676457011_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&pf_rd_p=472155353&pf_rd_s=right-6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=16423381&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=114XGYHW11REDTPMN73H
Barca Azul on 25 Feb '10
I've phoned my local Game and they say they have got the copies instore ready to put on the shelves. However another local game store said they have copies but have been told not to put them on the self until they get confirmation from head office. Hmmm the plot thickens.
Osiris25 on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

I had an Xbox 360 and enjoyed the following (3 RROD occurences, on Xbox 360, later before I gave up) …

Gears of War (Meta 94)
Halo 3 (Meta 94)
Gears of War 2 (Meta 93)
Forza 2 (Meta 90)
Call of Duty 2 (Meta 89)
Fable 2 (Meta 89)
PGR4 (Meta 85)
Crackdown (Meta 83)
Prey (Meta 79)
Blue Dragon (Meta 79)

On Sony's machine since purchase, I've enjoyed...

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Meta 96)
Little Big Planet (Meta 95)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (Meta Critic 94)
Killzone 2 (Meta 91)
Ratchet and Clank TOD (Meta 89)
Uncharted (Meta 8Cool
Resistance 2 (Meta 87)
Valkrie Chronicles (Meta 86)
Infamous (Meta 85)
Warhawk (Meta 84)
Resistance (Meta 84)
Pacific Rift (Meta 82)
Motorstorm (Meta 82)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Meta 80)
Heavenly Sword (Meta 79)
MAG (Meta 76)

I don't know but apart from Mass Effect 2, I don’t think I've missed too much on Xbox 360, will get another when Halo Reach comes out.

QUIT MAKING THESE STUPID LISTS... IT'S NOT LIKE WE ACTUALLY CARE.

I can't help it.

I want people to understand why Im right.
I want people to see the awesomeness of PS3.
I need to be clear and mature on the topic.
I wish to see some serious debating.
And I don't want to wind anybody up.

These are the main reasons, probably.
There may be other reasons but Im not too sure.
I hope thats been helpful.
If not then IT'S NOT LIKE I ACTUALLY [b]CARE

Many thanks Very Happy
starsail on 25 Feb '10
I am not reading all there comments in this thred as it is the same story everywhere. Fangirls moaning at each other and comparing who ahs the smallest penis. Truth is no one cares and yes I own both PS3 and 360 because I can. I don't own a WII as it is not for me but I don't troll on WII games. Grow up kids.


Anyway back on topic. Most new games these days come out with people having some kind of issue with them so there is no surprise here and I think a simple patch will fix the issue. I will be buying this a week after it comes out and I see this as a good thing as it gives them time to make a patch just in case. Razz
wwinterj on 25 Feb '10
Hello, just wanted to say - I finished the game and played the taxidermist aswell - no freezes, lockups, slow downs or problems with saves. That's it.
hrahukka on 25 Feb '10
Rolling Eyes

all these issues with console games has only started to happen since they were connected to the internet allowing developers to release unfinished games & then try & solve the problems once customers are having problems with a game they have paid for yet doesn't work, console gamers are now having the same problems PC gamers have been having for years with game patches, updates, firmware & drivers etc.

if a game doesn't work straight out of the box customers should be entitled to send the game back to the developer/manufacture with proof of purchase & get a full refund by law, that way they would make dam sure that the games works on a standard system like a PS3 or Xbox.
alan666 on 25 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.

I had an Xbox 360 and enjoyed the following (3 RROD occurences, on Xbox 360, later before I gave up) …

Gears of War (Meta 94)
Halo 3 (Meta 94)
Gears of War 2 (Meta 93)
Forza 2 (Meta 90)
Call of Duty 2 (Meta 89)
Fable 2 (Meta 89)
PGR4 (Meta 85)
Crackdown (Meta 83)
Prey (Meta 79)
Blue Dragon (Meta 79)

On Sony's machine since purchase, I've enjoyed...

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Meta 96)
Little Big Planet (Meta 95)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (Meta Critic 94)
Killzone 2 (Meta 91)
Ratchet and Clank TOD (Meta 89)
Uncharted (Meta 8Cool
Resistance 2 (Meta 87)
Valkrie Chronicles (Meta 86)
Infamous (Meta 85)
Warhawk (Meta 84)
Resistance (Meta 84)
Pacific Rift (Meta 82)
Motorstorm (Meta 82)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Meta 80)
Heavenly Sword (Meta 79)
MAG (Meta 76)

I don't know but apart from Mass Effect 2, I don’t think I've missed too much on Xbox 360, will get another when Halo Reach comes out.
Starsail you really are a complete GIMP!!!
dangermou5e on 25 Feb '10
Sony needs to get this sorted. I got the patch and its a great game, but this will really hurt both QD and Sony if this is not sorted by the end of the week.
only_777 on 25 Feb '10
This has happened to me Mad I have lost all of my data. Bad times.
jaycee93 on 25 Feb '10
got my copy from GAME this morning, played 6 hours straight and no problems here, no lock ups, slight bit of screen tearing, but thats been it, but loving it so far.
allygray69 on 25 Feb '10
Just for starsail:

Games i've enjoyed in 2010(with metacritic scores) on my 360 and ps3:

360:
Bayonetta(90%)
Mass effect 2(96%)
Bioshock 2(88%)
Darwinia+(82%)
The Misadventures of P. B. Winterbottom(83%)

Ps3:
Digger hd(69%)

Ok so digger is technically a 2009 game, but i bought it in 2010. Good fun and underrated.

Not much on the ps3 i know, although i could have chosen bioshock 2 for it of course(but didn't).
It'll get more of a play once heavy rain and god of war 3 comes out.
blagger on 25 Feb '10
Just for starsail:

Games i've enjoyed in 2010(with metacritic scores) on my 360 and ps3:

360:
Bayonetta(90%)
Mass effect 2(96%)
Bioshock 2(88%)
Darwinia+(82%)
The Misadventures of P. B. Winterbottom(83%)

Ps3:
Digger hd(69%)

Ok so digger is technically a 2009 game, but i bought it in 2010. Good fun and underrated.

Not much on the ps3 i know, although i could have chosen bioshock 2 for it of course(but didn't).
It'll get more of a play once heavy rain and god of war 3 comes out.

Bayonetta and Bioshock are on PS3, I should know, I bought them lol and you can get the The Misadventures of P. B. Winterbottom if you like, Ill just continue laughing.


PS3 on Meta in 2010 ...
Peggle (93%)
God of War collection (91%)
Bioshock 2(88%)
Heavey Rain (88%)
Bayonetta(86%)
Pixel Junk Shooter (86%)

If it werent for Mass Effect 2, 2010 on Xbox 360 would have been ...

Darwinia+(82%)
The Misadventures of P. B. Winterbottom(83%)

LMFAO

To Dangermouse, whats with the name calling you cotton headed ninny muggins.
starsail on 25 Feb '10
I'm on hold with Sony right now asking them what they are doing to remedy this problem.

Apparently, the person I'm talking to has no idea what I'm talking about. I'm not going to go fiddle with my brand new playstation. It's not a hardware issue. "I'd like to speak to your manager please."

Holding for the manager.

The manager says has never heard of any issues with the game and is checking with some other department.

Holding to some pretty jazzy elevator music...

Has no one called in to complain yet?

Manager is back.
The manager is talking me in circles and won't do anything for me but give me a call back once they've heard of the problem. He's getting a little aggravated. I just want some answers and clearly he doesn't have any.

After arguing with him for 20 minutes, he can’t do anything for me. I ask to speak to someone above him. Apparently he's the boss. "Are you the head of customer service for Sony of America?"

He's going to put me through to his superior in networking.

This guy is a little better but still useless. I explain to him that I feel irate for purchasing a product that lets me play for a few hours and then freezes and won't let me load my save game.

"Is it a patchable issue or a corrupted save game?" - Me He doesn't know.

"If it's a game issue, once 'they've' been made aware of a problem the developer will probably patch it soon." - Network guy I had already assumed this and it does nothing for me.

"If it's on the developer to fix the problem, then why is their faulty product being sold by Sony?" - Me No answer.

"I'd like my $60 back if the game doesn't work as specified." - Me

"Sony's not really responsible for that problem." - Network guy

"Oh so it's not Sony's problem? So for the $60 I spent for a SONY computer entertainment game that is played on the SONY playstation 3 game that bugs out half way through and won't let me play it anymore isn't Sony's problem?" - Me

"This is the first I've heard of this issue. Of the thirty million people playing this game, you're the only person I've heard about having this problem." - Network guy

"There are a ton of people posting about this issue online in the US and EU forums. There are Sony representatives and devs stating that they have been made aware of these issues online. I got this number from a post online. I just want to know what you guys are doing to remedy this situation." - Me

"The best I can do right now is call you back in a day or two when we know more about this." - Network guy

"So you're not going to give me my money back (which of course I understand is a mildly ludicrous thing to ask for) and you're not going to throw me some sort of PS3 voucher or restitution for my aggravation and wasted time (a little more plausible) and you're not even going to acknowledge that this is a serious and fairly widespread problem with your product?" (Awww c'mon Network guy… Nothing.)

This entire process garners no information, fixes or restitution for me or anyone. Eventually he informs me to hunt down this link:

http://www.us.playstation.com/Corporate/ContactUs

Where he assures me, my complaint will get to the right department. Passing the buck... to a website. The kicker is that (aside from the automated e-mail/question form) the only contact number listed is the one I’ve just called. Well done, Network guy. Well done.

Don’t get me wrong, I love this game. I think its innovative and great and if I wasn’t so deeply involved with the characters and story I could probably put it down for a couple of weeks and not care. But that’s just not the case and dammit I’m upset and I have a right to be. I just dealt with all of that MAG server nonsense a couple of weeks ago, but I digress.

If we let this stand we’re letting Sony know that it’s alright to release buggy unfinished products and not only will we put up with it, we’ll even pay for it. It’s time to let them know, that it’s not right. As loyal and (most importantly) paying customers, we deserve better.

I hope everyone reads my personal experience and is motivated to inundate the he!! out of Sony with phone calls (1-800-345-7669), e-mails and forum posts until these problems with Heavy Rain are fixed.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go post this repetitively all over the internet.
Kell
KellBru on 25 Feb '10
I'm on hold with Sony right now asking them what they are doing to remedy this problem.

Apparently, the person I'm talking to has no idea what I'm talking about. I'm not going to go fiddle with my brand new playstation. It's not a hardware issue. "I'd like to speak to your manager please."

Holding for the manager.

The manager says has never heard of any issues with the game and is checking with some other department.

Holding to some pretty jazzy elevator music...

Has no one called in to complain yet?

Manager is back.
The manager is talking me in circles and won't do anything for me but give me a call back once they've heard of the problem. He's getting a little aggravated. I just want some answers and clearly he doesn't have any.

After arguing with him for 20 minutes, he can’t do anything for me. I ask to speak to someone above him. Apparently he's the boss. "Are you the head of customer service for Sony of America?"

He's going to put me through to his superior in networking.

This guy is a little better but still useless. I explain to him that I feel irate for purchasing a product that lets me play for a few hours and then freezes and won't let me load my save game.

"Is it a patchable issue or a corrupted save game?" - Me He doesn't know.

"If it's a game issue, once 'they've' been made aware of a problem the developer will probably patch it soon." - Network guy I had already assumed this and it does nothing for me.

"If it's on the developer to fix the problem, then why is their faulty product being sold by Sony?" - Me No answer.

"I'd like my $60 back if the game doesn't work as specified." - Me

"Sony's not really responsible for that problem." - Network guy

"Oh so it's not Sony's problem? So for the $60 I spent for a SONY computer entertainment game that is played on the SONY playstation 3 game that bugs out half way through and won't let me play it anymore isn't Sony's problem?" - Me

"This is the first I've heard of this issue. Of the thirty million people playing this game, you're the only person I've heard about having this problem." - Network guy

"There are a ton of people posting about this issue online in the US and EU forums. There are Sony representatives and devs stating that they have been made aware of these issues online. I got this number from a post online. I just want to know what you guys are doing to remedy this situation." - Me

"The best I can do right now is call you back in a day or two when we know more about this." - Network guy

"So you're not going to give me my money back (which of course I understand is a mildly ludicrous thing to ask for) and you're not going to throw me some sort of PS3 voucher or restitution for my aggravation and wasted time (a little more plausible) and you're not even going to acknowledge that this is a serious and fairly widespread problem with your product?" (Awww c'mon Network guy… Nothing.)

This entire process garners no information, fixes or restitution for me or anyone. Eventually he informs me to hunt down this link:

http://www.us.playstation.com/Corporate/ContactUs

Where he assures me, my complaint will get to the right department. Passing the buck... to a website. The kicker is that (aside from the automated e-mail/question form) the only contact number listed is the one I’ve just called. Well done, Network guy. Well done.

Don’t get me wrong, I love this game. I think its innovative and great and if I wasn’t so deeply involved with the characters and story I could probably put it down for a couple of weeks and not care. But that’s just not the case and dammit I’m upset and I have a right to be. I just dealt with all of that MAG server nonsense a couple of weeks ago, but I digress.

If we let this stand we’re letting Sony know that it’s alright to release buggy unfinished products and not only will we put up with it, we’ll even pay for it. It’s time to let them know, that it’s not right. As loyal and (most importantly) paying customers, we deserve better.

I hope everyone reads my personal experience and is motivated to inundate the he!! out of Sony with phone calls (1-800-345-7669), e-mails and forum posts until these problems with Heavy Rain are fixed.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go post this repetitively all over the internet.
Kell

STOP MAKING LISTS!!


lol
starsail on 25 Feb '10
I decided to take the risk and can say it hasn't frozen on me yet, I've just reached the part in the demo where you play as the FBI agent.

I did have a few glitches, one when you're looking after your son; he went to grab some crisps and got stuck in the table and I had to restart. The audio also cut out a few times in the beginning, but it seems to be better now.

Lastly (and the biggest problem for me), is the load times. This game has the longest load times I've experienced this gen, which really doesn't help the overall game experience.
Black Mantis on 25 Feb '10
just finished up the game. didnt freeze once.
great game, go buy it.
only thing about it is i dont c myself playing it again. its a great story, but when u know what happens at the end, theres no point playing it again imo.
OD* on 25 Feb '10
starsail, peggle? Laughing You're really rolling out the hardcore games now.
It's on the 360 as well if you didn't know Rolling Eyes

God of war is the old ps2 games with a slight facelift(just emulated games).
Hardly anything new.

Bayonetta is indeed on the ps3, but it's nowhere near as good as the 360 version.

So out the original high scoring retail games so far in 2010 we've got:

360:
Mass effect 2 96%
Bayonetta 90%
Bioshock 2 88%

Ps3:
Bioshock 2 88%
Heavy rain 88%
Bayonetta 86%

By my understanding, the 360 is ahead quite clearly there.
Although the mighty peggle Laughing may take some stopping.
blagger on 25 Feb '10
Just to let Aussie gamers know that I've picked up a copy of the game and I haven't had one freeze or issue with the game and I would say that I've just about finished it as well.
mrboondy on 26 Feb '10
theres a fix for it in the form of an update, shut up drivelling crap d*ckheads....
headspin on 26 Feb '10
god, i just clicked the link to see my post and there was another one of those lists...... typing those lists is real sad wether its in favour of the ps3 or 360, what are you actually achieving????? stop doing it whoever does those lists because you achieve nothing but make yourself look like a c*nt...
headspin on 26 Feb '10
how many hours is this taking everyone to complete?
Tobal on 26 Feb '10
Starsail, as headspin has said, stop being a c**t with all these lists Laughing

Especially when your free time could be spent downloading god of war 3 demo on psn(getting it now, it's a big file).
Looking forward to this.
blagger on 26 Feb '10
I'm about 6ish hours in and don't think i'm anywhere near the end. there's definately plenty of potential replay value too.

as i said 6 hours in still no freezing. It did update when i first botted it up though. Maybe its been fixed already.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 26 Feb '10
Bloody Metcheck got it wrong, 'AGAIN'!
ryddah on 26 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.
FiltyMonkey

Makes me laugh how idiots like this person wait for a bit of info on a ps3 exclusive and air their pathetic opinion on the matter which doesn't concern them.
I'd suggest get a real job so you can afford a real console
HITMANBAZZA on 26 Feb '10

Makes me laugh how idiots like this person wait for a bit of info on a ps3 exclusive and air their pathetic opinion on the matter which doesn't concern them.
I'd suggest get a real job so you can afford a real console

I dunno you can pick up a Megadrive quite cheaply these days.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 26 Feb '10
Taken me 4 attempts to download the update as it kept giving me an error message everytime it went to install. Tried playing it without the update and at the start of every scene the sound was out of sync and the picture would judder. Finally got the update and it sorted all that out. So far the games only froze up on me once through about 3 hours of play and that was at the end of the crime scene section that was in the demo.

Loving it so far, such a different type of game, but i have to say its pretty shocking that they let the game go out in such a state that anyone without access to the update may have to put up with the problems i've noted above.

Sony and MS really need to start cracking down on developers that release games with such glaring errors. Start hitting them with fine's for these updates and maybe we'll start seeing some games that are actually complete on release.
ensabahnur on 26 Feb '10
blagger, see you next tuesday
adamitom2 on 26 Feb '10

Makes me laugh how idiots like this person wait for a bit of info on a ps3 exclusive and air their pathetic opinion on the matter which doesn't concern them.

You know what, I'm not even remotely concerned in getting involved in a flame war of fanboy fight (dont see the point personally, who gives a fu*k which console is this and that as long as YOU like it) but I imagine the reason you get 360 fans commenting here is thus...

Xbox players have put up with crap from Sony fanboys for so long about RROD and reliability issues. So to see a famed PS3 exclusive fail (I mean come on, 200MB patch on its release. I dont care if its a game on Xbox, PS3, PC, Wii, that's crap) I imagine for some its simply payback time. But if you cant take what you give out..... Wink
veato on 26 Feb '10
Its not a bad idea but to an extent Sony and MS are the casue of problems like this. They want the games out as soon as possible, ship dates must be met and they do fine companies for not making those.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 26 Feb '10
If Heavy Rain was on 360 it'll probably RROD. Smile
resonance7799 on 26 Feb '10
It always made me laugh when sony fanboys make these little lists of sony exclusives only for them to garner mediocre scores. When finally the first half decent sony exclusive in ages comes along its full of bugs - nice one.
FiltyMonkey

Makes me laugh how idiots like this person wait for a bit of info on a ps3 exclusive and air their pathetic opinion on the matter which doesn't concern them.
I'd suggest get a real job so you can afford a real console

what a buttplug, if you haven't already noticed by my sign off, I already own both machines, so I guess the only opinion here that doesn't matter is yours you f**king inbred hick.
FiltyMonkey on 26 Feb '10
Veato ur just as sad as the rest of them, how has Heavy Rain failed? and how is it payback time on people that bought it?

Its like saying your bit of bread came sliced and is good to go, my famed bread had to be cut, its payback biatch take it, don't dish it out if u cant take it.

It's a little extra time, who cares im still gonna eat it. (er that was about time for an install)

WFT am i talking about bread for, its a bad analogy, u can tell its nearly lunch time,lol.
Adam81uk on 26 Feb '10
Du pain, du vin, du Boursin. Et voila, c'est magnifique.
Conkers on 26 Feb '10
226MB patch, started download at 11.17 finished download,install and origami bird by 11.35. Dont think thats too bad.
moss66 on 26 Feb '10
More Arguments and put downs by Xbox fans and PS3 fans.HILARIOUS!. All ofcourse based on 'facts' being shouted about by both sets of 'fans' or as i like to call them 'Console Hooligans'. Both bad mouth eachothers games, because of a certain score they have been given by a person with and 'Expert Opinion'. Yet if a game on Xbox gets a higher score than the same game does on PS3 then they are used, to say that its another game better on Xbox than on PS3. But how is a game 'better' on 1 console than the other?.

It seems to me alot of the 'Experts' with their 'opinions' are just that. And like every one of us on here. We all seem to think we are an 'expert' and give our own views, but mostly it is used on here to belittle a owner of the opposite to what you have. Aswell as that, Some people who own an Xbox360 say how bad the PS3 games are, without even buying a PS3 in the 1st place, so those opinions are just viod and childish, because they havent experienced what the other person has and uses their 'Blind' intellect to form an opinion on a system or even a game they havent even tried. Ofcourse this happens the other way around too.

I don't like the Final Fantasy games, never have done and never will. But does it mean it's a bad game? just like alot on here talking about the likes of Gears of war, Heavy Rain, Killzone ect. Just because its not your 'thing' doesnt mean its a bad game or 'Laughable' as some have put it.

This is where I and everyone else who own both Consoles WIN, in this type of situation.

I like PS3 because it is free online and Games like Killzone are very good online. It isnt as good as XBOX 360 online, but it gets the job done with minimal fuss and i have never had a problem.

I like PS3 because they try something new and push new concepts and different genres, with Equal skill and Enthusiasm as they do with already established games, like Heavy Rain, Motorstorm and my Favourite, Little Big Planet.

I like PS3 because of the Huge Memory space it has for me to Put all my MP3's on aswell as pictures and Movies. Ofcourse, I can't forget my TV recordings. The Web browser is also a nice touch to overall a fantastic Console. I can watch BluRay DVD's with fantastic sound and Great Picture.

I Like Xbox 360, because with Exclusives like Halo, Forza, Mass Effect ect, they put more work into each one (apart From ODST, what was the point?) to make the Game more 'current' and just as good, even better than the last game.

I like Xbox 360 because The Online play is brilliant, even for £40, it is still worth it and if i can be assed, Talking s**t down the Mic of thge headset is a little fun, yet juvenile.


I Like Having both because Each System compliments eachother. They BOTH have great exclusives in their own right And BOTH run fantastically well. If ones self has one without the other, you are missing out. Don't bother preaching 'loyalty', its aload of rubbish, you can be equally loyal to both.

I also Have a Wii and a PC. Yes i feel lucky, but all systems are great. Wii is great for a laugh with mates/Girlfriend, or even Family members. I love getting my Wii out when a Group of people come over because it is fun. Just like you can on every other system. They all are Made for the purpose of enjoyment, not for Petty arguments and Put downs.

Get them ALL if you can and you can appreciate each quality they ALL bring.


My hands hurt now this is too long.
smascherano on 26 Feb '10
Du pain, du vin, du Boursin. Et voila, c'est magnifique.

Du blue cheese,Du mango chutney ,du i need some french lessons
martinawatson on 26 Feb '10
une kilo du potatoes
martinawatson on 26 Feb '10
une kilo du pomme de terre

c'est fixe.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 26 Feb '10
Veato ur just as sad as the rest of them, how has Heavy Rain failed?

On its release lots of people have complained about saved gamed corruptions and crashes. How is that not fail.

and how is it payback time on people that bought it?

You misundertand. What I said (or meant) is that Xbox fans can lol at Sony fans after lots fo abuse coming the other way due to RROD, etc. I never said I supported this viewpoint I said I'm not suprised it happens.

So no, I'm not as sad as the rest.
veato on 26 Feb '10
one question: how long does it take to complete this game. considering it only came out today I'm kinda disgusted that people have completed it already. It looked like it was a real long, engaging game!!!

Thanks in advance to any replies
infamous76 on 26 Feb '10
starsail, peggle? Laughing You're really rolling out the hardcore games now.
It's on the 360 as well if you didn't know Rolling Eyes

God of war is the old ps2 games with a slight facelift(just emulated games).
Hardly anything new.

Bayonetta is indeed on the ps3, but it's nowhere near as good as the 360 version.

So out the original high scoring retail games so far in 2010 we've got:

360:
Mass effect 2 96%
Bayonetta 90%
Bioshock 2 88%

Ps3:
Bioshock 2 88%
Heavy rain 88%
Bayonetta 86%

By my understanding, the 360 is ahead quite clearly there.
Although the mighty peggle Laughing may take some stopping.

Nice balanced response. Many thanks.

Yeah, Xbox 360 has the brilliant Mass effect 2, no argument. Played a bit and want lol.

I was responding to a post which struck me as WTF lol they included Bayonetta and Bioshock 2 as Xbox exclusive games so I equally done a WTF on Peggle. I've never played it and don't plan to and I was aware it's on Xbox 360 (just like the 2 games they mentioned are on PS3) which is why I included it.

Bayonetta was built on Xbox tech and it took a bit of a hit when translated to PS3 (only slight though) which gave the game a lesser score in reviews.

However, another, similar game, built on PS3 tech is looking unbelievable, going by the name of God of War 3, I feel if put on Xbox 360 it would be somewhat limited (probably more so than Bayonetta on PS3) but its an exclusive and should deliver some great reviews.

If we're truly honest then the list this year would look like:

360:
Mass Effect 2 96%

Ps3:
Heavy Rain 88%

Not a bad start for either console.

Very Happy

Looking forward to God of War 3, Alan Wake, Gran Turismo and Halo Reach!!
starsail on 26 Feb '10
Absolutely spot on mascherano, couldn't have put it better myself.....
headspin on 26 Feb '10
cmon, 4 years and the tech still isnt good enough.
thats weak

sony should stop putting money into this studio
OD* on 26 Feb '10
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