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Final Fantasy VII HD remake 'hard to make'

Creating the visuals would take 'enormous time' says Square producer
Even though we reckon it will happen one day in the future (where there's money to be made...) there still seems to be no progress on a remake of Final Fantasy VII. And that's because of the visuals, believe it or not.

In an interview with Ultimania magazine (thanks 1UP), producer Yoshinori Kitase says that the reason there are no towns in Final Fantasy XIII is because they're tricky to create in HD.

Roughly translated quotes pulled from the mag have FFXIII devs saying, "It is a result of considering HD graphics will be the mainstream. Considering the amount of work to make graphics that deserve HD, it is hard to make towns in the conventional style.

"In the limited period of development time, to convey the the great story that deserves the name of Final Fantasy, and to convey the battles that entertain players enough, we condensed each element.

"It is very hard to make games on PlayStation 3 in the same style as the games in that era had. Making graphics will take enormous time."

It's not like they haven't had ten years to get this going.. Just saying.

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just do a DS version,FF3 and 4 remakes were fantastic and number 4 had voices as well

i am sure it would still be great on the DS,in looks i would expect it to still look better than the PSOne version(character models anyway)
metallicorphan on 5 Feb '10
License the rights out to Sony or MS to make as an exclusive, with no financial risk or burden for Square Enix. That way they can take their time to create it as it should be.

Or is that just too simple of a solution for them?

Fook, I'm up late... Damn coursework, sh!t, p1ss, cr@p, turtle.
BattleMoose87 on 5 Feb '10
make it, take your time I will buy it
luigi836 on 5 Feb '10
quite sad to see really, i remember at one point Square were at the forefront design and graphics with every new game.

Now they dont seem to take risks and want to milk everything. Its all been downhill since the merger.

Sad
bloodbathrich on 5 Feb '10
its what every ff fan wants, and its what ps3 needs
sakaspuds on 5 Feb '10
No matter what, I strongly believe it should still be a Playstation Exclusive.
Atinetro on 5 Feb '10
I think it would be. they have some special agreement with sony about FFVII. God knows why. I'd rather see a remake of VI or VIII they were far better.

It's also a p**s poor excuse from Square, They've basically turned round and said we don't have the talent or patience to create the free roaming elements that make up a modern RPG.

Screw square the guys that made the Final Fantasy games great are gone anyway. Maybe they should get mystwalker to develop it. What with them being the best part of the team that made it in the first place.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 5 Feb '10
It's sad that they're taking so long after it's been whispered for so long.

All they have to do is copy the first game, add a few new bits and we'll all buy it in the millions. I can see it being one of the biggest ever games!

A whole generation of retro gamers wanting to reminisce and a new generation wondering what all the fuss was about.
Karis on 5 Feb '10
Lazy F**kers, it's strange how you can get games like fable 2 with towns in HD and done pretty well, even tho the story bored me it looked good and only took 2 years to do. They need to listen to what the fans want and it looks like 90% don't want any more new games till we get a remake of VII and VIII if they can, i liked that one too.
martymandem on 5 Feb '10
OK; you have the story, the characters, the locations, the HD models (advent children)and music. In fact you have everything mapped out about how the game should be. All we want is a HD upgrade. Oh and did I say - it will be a guarenteed seller in the millions.

Oh...you want to make an entirely different game from the ground up?..ok
Tinseltopia on 5 Feb '10
Seriously? What kind of excuse is this? Of course it's going to take an enormous amount of time. Perhaps that's why they should get started on it now. It will happen - there's too much money to be made to not.
spacelion on 5 Feb '10
and actually...they started it all by showing that p**sing PS3 Tech demo with the opening cutscene from the game.

How can they show the opening cut-scene in HD glory and then turn around and say they can't make it?
Tinseltopia on 5 Feb '10
I'd be happy with a hd update of the current FF VII (a la GOW collection). Frankly- I wouldn't trust Square to redo the whole game from the ground up. There's no way they would do it justice imo. Who knows, maybe that's the real reason why they won't do it?.
flash501 on 5 Feb '10
I know that it's a classic, but I don't really understand why people would truly want this instead of a brand new FF.

It was a good game, with a great story - but, once it was beaten, there was no need to go back and play it again. I'd think that those that did were in the minority.

I also don't think that it'd be the huge seller that a lot of people like to make out. I think that the vast majority that played it all those years ago wouldn't be that interested in going over it again, even if it was in HD. Also, I'd be surprised if FF games still sell as well as they did back then.

The best option would be to slightly update the original - just a little polish - then release it on PSN and Live and see how well it does.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 5 Feb '10
There are 4 words which perfectly sum up my reason for buying a HD upgrade/remake of FFVII:

Knights of the Round.

Have mime Materia on your characters and go have dinner. By the time you come back it should be end of boss.

Love that game.Smile
Currychips on 5 Feb '10
What is this nonsense about it being "very difficult"??

Its your fricking JOB!And there are others that are doing a good job at it.Look at Shenmue 10 years ago,look at Yakuza 3 ,look at Fable 2 or WKC.Hell ,look at your own SOIV.Now go to work and stop with your lazy excuses.
Diomedes1977 on 5 Feb '10
What a load of BS...

C.
yetiC on 5 Feb '10
Think how cool,the final battle with Sephiroth could be (HD Supernova) Very Happy
born2play on 5 Feb '10
JUST LEAVE IT ALONE. They killed off Final Fantasy 7 with the awful Advent Children. I actually think Cloud looked better in his lego man form than his girly faced, translucent skinned look in that 'film'.

The less said about what they did to Barrett the better...
MrPirtniw on 5 Feb '10
No way could they convert FFVII for the DS (much as though I'd like them to). FFVII shipped on three discs, and the largest DS cart to date is 512 MB. Even if they were to come up with a larger cart, it's a vast jump to accommodate that extra data (and that's without thinking about the possibility of v/o).

I think the chances of an FFVII remake hinge hugely on how well FFXIII sells when it comes out in Europe and the US. 9 months ago, FFXIII was right towards the top of my most anticipated list, but the more and more I see about it, the less it seems to be the A++ title I was hoping for (and the one people had expected, given its dev time). If it sells poorly, and Square actually make a loss on the game (not completely out of the question, given the development time), then I would have thought they would look to need for a guaranteed money spinner, and the FFVII remake would be just that.

That said - "not being able to make HD towns" is a shocking excuse!
ReaperMan on 5 Feb '10
No way could they convert FFVII for the DS (much as though I'd like them to). FFVII shipped on three discs, and the largest DS cart to date is 512 MB. Even if they were to come up with a larger cart, it's a vast jump to accommodate that extra data (and that's without thinking about the possibility of v/o).

It's entirely possible. The ghibli game is going to clock in at about 2gb and compression tech is way in advance of what it was when the games made. They could squeeze it onto the ds easy. OR they could just put it on 2 carts, like they proposed with Dragon Quest IX.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 5 Feb '10
I know that it's a classic, but I don't really understand why people would truly want this instead of a brand new FF.

It was a good game, with a great story - but, once it was beaten, there was no need to go back and play it again. I'd think that those that did were in the minority.

I also don't think that it'd be the huge seller that a lot of people like to make out. I think that the vast majority that played it all those years ago wouldn't be that interested in going over it again, even if it was in HD. Also, I'd be surprised if FF games still sell as well as they did back then.

The best option would be to slightly update the original - just a little polish - then release it on PSN and Live and see how well it does.

Smile

You're kidding, right?
spacelion on 5 Feb '10
I know that it's a classic, but I don't really understand why people would truly want this instead of a brand new FF.

It was a good game, with a great story - but, once it was beaten, there was no need to go back and play it again. I'd think that those that did were in the minority.

I also don't think that it'd be the huge seller that a lot of people like to make out. I think that the vast majority that played it all those years ago wouldn't be that interested in going over it again, even if it was in HD. Also, I'd be surprised if FF games still sell as well as they did back then.

The best option would be to slightly update the original - just a little polish - then release it on PSN and Live and see how well it does.

Smile

You're kidding, right?

I don't think too many people would, in all honesty. It's one of those things that sounds good in principle, but is less appealing as a reality - it's like Shenmue 3, lots of people seem to be screaming out for it, but I highly doubt that it'd actually sell in huge quantities....much like the first two.

Smile
ParmaViolet on 5 Feb '10
I don't get it... in-house Square have already done some (fantastic) HD cities in The Last Remnant, and they're going to have to make some for FFXIV for basic MMO mechanics. I realize that they are different teams making those games but surely they can help each other out?

To be honest, though, I'd sooner see a sequel in the vein of X-2. We never found out what really happened to Genesis so it would cool to see a continuation of his story.
lordirongut on 5 Feb '10
Stop f**king about with the stupid CGI cut-scenes and spend more time on the actual game.
Thank you all.
vulcanraven01 on 5 Feb '10
I know that it's a classic, but I don't really understand why people would truly want this instead of a brand new FF.

It was a good game, with a great story - but, once it was beaten, there was no need to go back and play it again. I'd think that those that did were in the minority.

I also don't think that it'd be the huge seller that a lot of people like to make out. I think that the vast majority that played it all those years ago wouldn't be that interested in going over it again, even if it was in HD. Also, I'd be surprised if FF games still sell as well as they did back then.

The best option would be to slightly update the original - just a little polish - then release it on PSN and Live and see how well it does.

Smile

You're kidding, right?

I don't think too many people would, in all honesty. It's one of those things that sounds good in principle, but is less appealing as a reality - it's like Shenmue 3, lots of people seem to be screaming out for it, but I highly doubt that it'd actually sell in huge quantities....much like the first two.

Smile

The first two Shenmue games didn't sell all that great because a) they were originally on the Dreamcast which didn't exactly have the largest user base (even if they were re-released on the Xbox) and b) they're not FPS's. Go figure. Rolling Eyes

I think you're really underestimating the nostalgia factor, though. If I were to go back and play it now, I've no doubt that I wouldn't enjoy it as much as I did the first time around, but a HD remake would be a different story. Plus, Final Fantasy fans tend to be more hardcore than those of other genres. Anyone who loved the original would jump at the chance to play a remake. Remember how excited people got at seeing the HD FFVII tech demo back in 2005? That level of fervour doesn't just disappear so easily. Shenmue never commanded that level of adoration. Given how poorly FFXIII seems to be doing in people's estimations (although most of the naysayers haven't actually played it yet, granted), I say they'd welcome a return to one of the most popular games in the series. Look at how receptive people have been to other additions in the Compilation of FFVII, and some of those haven't even been RPG's. The Square-Enix president said that the Compilation of FFVII could continue until its twentieth anniversary. Square might not have, but Square-Enix are far too financially-oriented to not pursue such a venture.
spacelion on 5 Feb '10
more than likely they won't do this one cos they know they'd NEVER be able to do it for 360. if FF7 was remade i could see it being the 1st game to need more than 1 blu ray...so it would definately not fit on a reasonable amount of dvds for 3-s**tsy Evil or Very Mad
jamifer777 on 6 Feb '10
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