Good morning. Some tits with your coffee? The latest in a long line of Heavy Rain clips has just surfaced online - and it's steamy.
The in-game footage shows female lead Madison striping off and taking a shower - just one scene at the source of the games industry's latest controversy talks.
The furore over the game's explicit scenes was met with defensive statements from the producer David Cage, who insists he didn't write the PS3-exclusive thriller with tabloids or censorship in mind, and refused to be coy with its content.
Moments in videogaming you DON'T want your spouse or significant other walking in on you.
No 1, Towel drying a naked woman by furiously wanging your joypad around.
On a serious note, the "combat", although just a series of QT events, actually looked quite impressive, and was certainly exciting, got the blood pumping just watching it.
Moments in videogaming you DON'T want your spouse or significant other walking in on you.
No 1, Towel drying a naked woman by furiously wanging your joypad around.
On a serious note, the "combat", although just a series of QT events, actually looked quite impressive, and was certainly exciting, got the blood pumping just watching it.
I think you'll find that the situation you proposed to begin with was the FAR more serious point in your statement, tbh
On a serious note, the "combat", although just a series of QT events, actually looked quite impressive, and was certainly exciting, got the blood pumping just watching it.
Thats exactly what I thought - I was really pulled into that despite it being a series of QT events. ALso, the atmosphere building upto it was quite fascinating...
For a videogame character she had a cracking set of norks!
Good job on lowering the tone of the conversation Marlonjb. We are all trying to have a grown up non sexual conversation regarding the development of gaming into a modern day 'grown up' entertainment media and you have to use the word 'norks'. Great, how is gaming ever going to be taken seriously with people like you.
LOL..... I couldn't help but laugh at the beginning part of this video. I never thought that one day we would be controlling someone dry themself off with a towel and the sound effects at the toilet - why?
"Boobs" tend to only attract pre-pubescent males, heck, I remember buying Sam Fox strip poker on the ZX Spectrum just to get a glimse at her pixalated rack back in the day, and like now, what I really should have been doing is buy The Sun or the News of the world, or some other jazz rag.
Not sure many mature gamers are attracted by the thought of seeing digital boobs, certainly no key selling point for me, especially as I can see real boobs whenever I want!!!.
So much for videogames trying to tackle more mature subjects, and gain more respect as a valid artform...
How is this ever going to be achieved when big sites such as C&VG resort to headline grabbing headlines such as 'Madison naked in Heavy Rain video'.
Come on...we can be better than that can't we?
Additionally...anyone who is interested in playing Heavy Rain and chooses to watch all these leaked video/spoilers are simply ruining the game for themselves aren't they?
now press x, now press o, now press triangle now press x, now press o,,, err think i'll put a movie on. She looks a little like keanu reeves , should nt she be wearing something like a pvc catsuit and have t**s literally 6 times bigger. Later i think you get to see her having explosive toilet issues and have to waggle the six axis to plunge. Looks like titillation posing as non titillation to me.
odd thing just happened to me when i got out of the shower...i picked up a towell then a weird dual shock logo appeard out of nowhere, shaking violently up and down....i didnt know what it wanted from me
The only time this industry will really shown it's matured is the day when a game can have nudity in it, but not be the big news on the internet. You don't see film blogs posting clips everytime someone gets their t**s out in a film.
This scene though seems a bit creepy and necessary to me. I know Cage says he's not going to cater for the censors or the PC brigade and wants to make it as film like as possible, but is there really any need to linger on her baps for so long while she towels herself? The only way that scene could be any more uncomfortable is if they had controller motions for her going for a wee.
the perverts on the ps3 are going to love this, and god news for hitman bazza he will see his first pair of t**s. and I TOLD YOU ONCE CVG I DONT WANT HEAVY RAIN I WANT CHOCOLATE RAIN (
so dorian...you dont have a ps3, so you wont get heavey rain...but you clicked on a article about nudity in heavey rain....sounds like youre the pervert mate
I'm sick of telling my Mrs. to shut the door when she's taking a piss, the last thing I want is to control some other bird doing it.
you weird f**ker, i love watching my girlfriend when she p**ses.
Same here (obviously with my missus not yours). Unfortunately she also does the other thing when we're in the bog too and we're about to have a shower together, I turn around and there she is... taking a dump.
Damn it's just a pair of boobs. You guys are acting like its a porno you stole off your shifty uncle.
This is no worse than the scene in any movie where the girl has a shower comes out and there's someone in the house. Been seen a million times over in every thriller movie since Psycho.
Just becasue its in a game. pfft. come on guy's we're better than that surely.
nothing more cringe-inducing than nudity in games.
Nothing more cringe-inducing than gratuitous nudity in games. Which this totally is. If I want to see a pair of breasts, I'll watch a porno. Pathetic.
shut up you jerkwad, games have just as much right to put t**s in them as movies do. they both tell stories, they are both entertainment. if it offends you so much, go play with your pokemon cards junior.
So they bother to model and texture the character down to her nips and growler for the sake of a shower scene that lasts all of 10 seconds? In what way is that not gratuitous? I'm sure this scene adds depth to the story and helps you bond emotionally with the characters. Pretentious French Bulls**t!
This is no worse than the scene in any movie where the girl has a shower comes out and there's someone in the house. Been seen a million times over in every thriller movie since Psycho.
Perhaps if the shower scene was the necessary link to an intruder coming in and trying to murder the tart, it would be acceptable. As it is, you can choose to take a shower, then choose take a p**s. What does any of it have to do with anything? It that story? Is that gameplay? I don't understand the appeal of this "game" on any level.
nothing more cringe-inducing than nudity in games.
Nothing more cringe-inducing than gratuitous nudity in games. Which this totally is. If I want to see a pair of breasts, I'll watch a porno. Pathetic.
shut up you jerkwad, games have just as much right to put t**s in them as movies do. they both tell stories, they are both entertainment. if it offends you so much, go play with your pokemon cards junior.
except its lame as its not real, just some progammer dweeb's fantasy.
AV from family guy springs to mind, drooling over himself.
Good job on lowering the tone of the conversation Marlonjb. We are all trying to have a grown up non sexual conversation regarding the development of gaming into a modern day 'grown up' entertainment media and you have to use the word 'norks'. Great, how is gaming ever going to be taken seriously with people like you.
nothing more cringe-inducing than nudity in games.
Nothing more cringe-inducing than gratuitous nudity in games. Which this totally is. If I want to see a pair of breasts, I'll watch a porno. Pathetic.
shut up you jerkwad, games have just as much right to put t**s in them as movies do. they both tell stories, they are both entertainment. if it offends you so much, go play with your pokemon cards junior.
Jerkwad? Wow, now I'm offended. Both games and movies are perfectly capable of telling stories without the need for pointless nudity. I have no problem with nudity if it advances the plot or serves more of a purpose than to titillate young heterosexual males. There are games where I believe nudity would have added to the experience, movies too, but here? It's just pointless and embarrassing. It offends me because I have taste. Oh, and your implication that I am somehow childish because I don't want to see a bunch of pixels on a screen that programmers have likely spent hours lovingly rendering is completely hollow. I'm 25. How old are you? 14?
I'm seeing a lot of high-horse talk and 'sex in games is for kids' but i find it awfully ironic that a normal Heavy Rain article only seems to pick up a few comments, yet this one has reaped over 50 in practically no time at all.
@Charlie Bell - Well, when all the games 'journalists' can come up with for news is "Madison naked in Heavy Rain video" what else are we to do? Actually I'm always intrigued to see the tone of the comments on these puerile news items. I mean this guy got paid to write that story: "Good morning. Some t**s with your coffee?" - pure genius! Still at least he managed to spell t**s right.
I don't see what the problem is, she has quite nice looking t**s.
Seriously though, this is a game rated appropriately for a certain age group, just the same as Basic Instinct was rated for its intended age group.
Will people who don't understand the industry stop commenting on it. I can't pilot a plane, so I certainly don't go telling pilots how I think things should be done.
@Charlie Bell - Well, when all the games 'journalists' can come up with for news is "Madison naked in Heavy Rain video" what else are we to do? Actually I'm always intrigued to see the tone of the comments on these puerile news items. I mean this guy got paid to write that story: "Good morning. Some t**s with your coffee?" - pure genius! Still at least he managed to spell t**s right.
Perhaps. But the fact remains that this thread is more active than the one about Sony claiming this game was a 'Gamble' and the most recent Heavy Rain article (an apparent interview about the game) had next to no comments (one of which was mine).
Although I'm not strictly comfortable with some of the content of this game, I was interested in seeing how it was handled, and it is done in much the same way a movie would (although watching her pee seems a tad crude). As someone mentioned earlier, i wouldnt like to be playing these points of the game as someone walks into the room, but its part of the parcel and if you dont like it, you have to look past it at what else the game has to offer.
So perhaps the "see t**s" approach wasn't the most mature, but I think this article had its purpose and its proved informative to me.
Jerkwad? Wow, now I'm offended. Both games and movies are perfectly capable of telling stories without the need for pointless nudity. I have no problem with nudity if it advances the plot or serves more of a purpose than to titillate young heterosexual males. There are games where I believe nudity would have added to the experience, movies too, but here? It's just pointless and embarrassing. It offends me because I have taste. Oh, and your implication that I am somehow childish because I don't want to see a bunch of pixels on a screen that programmers have likely spent hours lovingly rendering is completely hollow. I'm 25. How old are you? 14?
everything offends you, i'm 25 myself, difference is, you're a prudish old fart from the sounds of it. the exact opposite of childish. the nudity very much is part of the story as it makes sense in the context of the scene. get a clue.
I don't understand??? Why would she pee after the shower? She should have just peed while in the shower. Makes sense, so long as you wash your feet properly afterwards lol
Errr... so let me get this straight- you lot who were fixated on her chest didn't notice that she had the face of a teenage boy? Does that not worry you? Sure as hell creeped me out!
I'm not sure what relevance that scene had in context with the rest of the game- and I probably won't until I play it myself- but from here it seemed a bit 'big brother-esque', I mean watching her take a leak? Really? That's got to appeal to those with a certain fetish, right?
As far as the QTE section went- it was quite well done- the atmosphere was pretty tense- but I can see myself getting bored pretty quickly if that's as dramatic as it gets. Farenhiet's (overly long)QTE's became dull anyway.
My main concern is with the 'uncanny valley' aspect- it's not a bad looking game- but the expressions (especially the eye movements) seemed a bit naff. It made her look more like some kind of blow up doll at times!
Ok, I think a lot of you have totally missed the point of the whole game, never-mind the scene.
You are playing a virtual experience. The whole shower/toilet scene is meant to add to the real life aspect of the game. You don't have to do those parts at all. Its meant to draw you into the atmosphere of actually being there. Immerse yourself in the virtual world. im pretty sure you all (well most of you)have showers and go for the odd wee now and then.
This is meant to then make the next scene with the masked men seem more intense, add to the realism. Again, you don't have to do those parts at all, if it embarrasses you, then don't do them (i bet you will anyway)
by saying its "pointless" means you missed the POINT. completely. If you'd rather go around shooting Russians for hours on end, play mw2. If you want an interactive story, that you are involved in and completely decide how the whole thing pans out, then play this.
I get the idea of Heavy Rain. It's quite similar to how I imagined Peter Jackson's interactive Halo movie/game would have worked. But to be honest, it's really just not my thing at all.
I get that it is effectively just a movie, but the interactive QTEs get you involved, but to me I think I'd just get the same interactivity out of pausing/playing a DVD. I think after a few types of these games come out (which no doubt will happen) we will get some really positive evolution and the whole genre does have great potential, though.
And that brings me to why I won't be buying Heavy Rain. If it is an interactive movie, then I look at HR and ask myself "would I want to watch this if it was a film?", and the answer is: not at all. If these types of games take off then whether you like it or not is likely to be down to taste in films.
And that brings me to why I won't be buying Heavy Rain. If it is an interactive movie, then I look at HR and ask myself "would I want to watch this if it was a film?", and the answer is: not at all. If these types of games take off then whether you like it or not is likely to be down to taste in films.
Yes! That's exactly how I feel about these types of games. I can see the argument for it being real life - but we didn't need to see Janet Leigh take a p**s in Psycho.
And there is something sad about gaming sex scenes, not sure why but they do make me cringe. Even GTA left them out!
The shower/toilet action is to get you feeling horny so that when the fight/chase starts you're already worked up, thus making it that bit more exciting.
Trouble is, when the tabloids get a hold of this they'll claim it just sexualises violence to women.
Aside from the fact they've done this purely to sell the game to 15 year old kids covered in acne who'll never get to see the real thing, gamers have spent years trying to move away from the image too many people have about games being played in bedrooms, by kids, who hate the thought of sunshine and are just after kicks.
Then a desperate developer releases footage like this and any progress that had been made gets kicked into touch.
They've aimed low with all this publicity, and missed, on the low side.
Don't get me wrong, the game could be cack before I start going on about it.
But if you have any kind of IQ over 100, you can see the actual point of being able to do those things. Theres a playable part as a bloke where you sit and read, watch tv. eat. get your kid to do his homework. go to the shops. as well as "shock horror" a woman in the shower... all designed to draw you into doing normal day, mundane things. To then suddenly shock you by being attacked, losing your son, getting mugged etc. Those thing will then appear to be shocking in the story, and how you react to those things is what shapes the whole game.
if they wanted it purley for 15 year old to look at boobies, it would be shower scenes all the way through it. with big guns and a terrible storyline. Unfortunatley its a bit more adult then that fokes. sorry to dissapoint the apparent 90% of comment makers on this site.
Then a desperate developer releases footage like this and any progress that had been made gets kicked into touch.
They've aimed low with all this publicity, and missed, on the low side.
In fairness, the footage wasn't released by QD, so we can't blame the developers for it surfacing (unless it was a clever underhanded publicity ploy).
And Sammy, you say its not recurrent throughout the game, but there at least 3 occurrences that we know of...
btw, the game appears to be an 18, not 15. Those acne-riddled teens will need fake IDs. But true still, no-one is going sit through the slow-paced, rather dull sections just for a few seconds glimpse of some polygonal mammaries.
This game is basically like a point and click adventure with an improved interface. Why all the fuss about the 'interactive storytelling'? Many point and click games have very little actual involvement for long periods other than, 'go to this place, talk to that person, select speech from menu'. No-one made too much of a fuss before, why now that they try to make it more involving?
You were able to go for a shower/go to the bog in Farenhiet too- but it wasn't as pervy/obvious as this is. At least Carla shut the door!
The sex scenes in that were pretty hilarious though. And the one at the end between Lucas and Carla was totally unnecessary. The're in an old abandoned subway... in a train... in the cold... surrounded by a tramp resistance faction... She's only known him for about 2 minutes... Oh, and he's dead.
To some extent I agree with Sammy - if this were simply trying to appeal to 15 year olds she'd be the usual female caricature (i.e. inconceivably large breasts, long blonde hair, big lips etc.) and it would be somewhat more salacious, instead it's almost humorous the way they keep certain things hidden behind pieces of scenery.
It's French as well right? Believe it or not they, and many other Europeans, aren't quite as fixated on t**s and ass as we Brits - i.e. seeing breasts in a game, film or even yoghurt advert (I kid you not) isn't the sort of thing to cause immature giggles; though they did apparently enjoy Benny Hill (sorry: showing my age).
I certainly agree that the fact she's doing banal every-day things not only reduces the titillating nature of the nudity and gives you more of a connection with the character, but also contrasts with the unreality of having masked intruders in your house, making for a more intense experience....
Having said all that I'm not sure whether I'd want to play through it all. And what happens if you fail one of those QTE elements? That's usually the moment that breaks the fourth wall...
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But true still, no-one is going sit through the slow-paced, rather dull sections just for a few seconds glimpse of some polygonal mammaries. 
