Sony has told CVG that releasing new IP as left-field as Heavy Rain is a 'gamble' - but that it has full faith the title can become a watershed moment in gaming.
"Being Sony, I suppose we have a little more luxury to take a gamble on more original and innovative IP - and Heavy Rain definitely fits that category.
"I suppose the risk is lessened if you have faith in the team behind the game and David and Guillaume and the guys at Quantic Dreams have really impressed, not just in terms of their back catalogue - Farenheit - but also in terms of the tech demos they showed in the run up to Heavy Rain."
She added:
"It would love for it to achieve [recognition as a watershed moment]. I really believe Heavy Rain has a great chance of breaking out. As well as the reviews, there also feels like there is a real groundswell of anticipation from gaming communities and trade alike - so let's see how it goes."
Good on Sony their pretty much the last Company in the current next gen Market that actually takes risks on innovative games etc. Unlike M$ keeping going on the same boring games...*Cough Halo*
oh tool fan could you lick the bumhole of sony even more i think you will find natal is a big risk and they have took many risks this gen unlike sony who copy everyones ideas
In regard to mr.dorian2011's thought provoking comment:
Doesn't microsoft make the most money out of all of them? Call me old fashioned, but I don't think you can say MS are taking risks if they can literally burn most of their money and still have enough left to develop a new console. Hence the reason people call them M$.
Though I doubt the whole of sony is riding on this game aswell so I wouldn't call this game as much a risk as sony implyed it was.
And MS don't copy of anyone do they Dorian?? Ms just thought of the idea of Natal? By the way I find it very funny that the Nintendo boss turned down Natal back in 07 after been very un-impressed with it. That says it all for me!
Please people, everyone has copied everyone else, no one is innocent.
Yes, all 3 bring us many sequels, and I don't see that slowing down, because people (including me) like to see more of their favourite games, however, I do agree that Sony do take more risks with there games, MAG, Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian, ModNation Racers, LBP, inFAMOUS, Demon Souls, etc... Sony do invest more than either M$ or Nintendo into bringing gamers new and innovative IPs.
I can't wait until Heavy Rain comes out, I've preordered the Special Edition Well excited.
Sony are the big risk takers, MS and Nintendo do take risks but no where near as many as Sony. Yes Nintendo took a risk with motion sencing tech for their console, but no real big risks since then.
Sony's risk list is huge! * Expensive console launch * Forcing users a blu ray drive * Giving huge funding to MM for LBP * Giving PD as long as they like to develop GT5
Sony's risk list is huge! * Expensive console launch * Forcing users a blu ray drive * Giving huge funding to MM for LBP * Giving PD as long as they like to develop GT5
I cant see how Sony have any say in how long PD take to develop their game. And its hardly a risk when the end product is guaranteed sales.
And the expensive console launch? More a desperation act to put out a console that contained everything. It paid off well enough, but apparently they are still selling console units at a loss...
Again with forcing the blu-ray drive. Less a risk, more the format of choice. MS went for HD DVDs (i think...) and had they included the ability to play HD DVDs straight out of the box, the HD vs Blu Ray battle may well have ended differently.
LOL, who's the stupid Microsoft ass - licking troll who said Sony are the ones who copy other people's ideas? What a crapbag.
Project Natal original? That proves you don't follow the games industry very closely at all. Tell me - are Microsoft the first company to use motion control this gen? No, i don't think so.....i think Nintendo might, just MIGHT have beaten Microsoft to the gate with motion control, LOL!
Sony have defined themselves by bringing out new, fresh and exciting IP's like Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Folklore, LBP, Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles and Infamous. Microsoft have offered 3 Halo games in the space of 18 months becuse they don't have the mental capacity to think of anything besides blasting aliens in the face......LOL. Microsoft are the most un - original company out there.
i didnt say microsoft didnt copy other peoples games aswell lol seems i fed the insane sony trolls haha david mcphail haha shows that you dont follow the games industry either for example heavnly sword and folklore are both epic fails and infamous is a cheap knock off of uncharted like resistance is a cheap knock off of gears of war and folklore is probally there attempt to copy fable and releasing 3 halo games is good buisness because there guarnteed high sales, i dont see you complaining about 3 fifas in 18 months or the amount of mario games nintendo release in a year this shows loyalty to fans as they keep them happy unlike sony who spend years developing gran turismo forever i mean 5 AND HITMAN BAZZA IWATA ONLY TURNED IT DOWN BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT MOTION WOULDNT SELL WELL THEY WERE WRONG, and microsoft bring out some fresh new ip's for exmaple viva pinata, milo and kate ninja blade blue dragon mass efffect gears of war and stokedand many more ssso there both good for ip's and you my virgin nerd are the sony bumlicker
i meant infamous is a cheap knock off of crackdown lol hangovers have this effect lol uncharted is a knock off of tombraider but a brilliant one at that
Dorian your type is fastly becoming extinct the 360 is fizling out like a pack of dodgy wet fireworks. You have maybe Alan Wake to look forward too (If its any good no Guarantees). Sony and Nintendo have lots, they are the only 2 consoles that truly matter and 2010 will prove my point!
if the 360 is fizzling out why do the 360 games outsell the ps3 versions? the 360 is defo alive if mass effect 2 can sell 2 million in a day while sonys mag sells 100,000 care 2 explain that? and explain why most games magazines are saying this is the 360's year? natal is mind blowing tech with the correct marketing could overthrow the wii.
Fair play to Mass effect 2 looks great. Heavy rain will p**s all over Alan Wake! And what has the 360 got to compete with Gow3!! With the Gta stories coming to the Ps3 its all sweet for us!! Not to mention Last Guardian, Modnation racers GT5 Probably Infamous 2, Resistance 3 aaaah excitement!!
haha again you avoid my questions so il ask them again if the 360 is fizzling out why do the 360 games outsell the ps3 versions? and what to compete with god of war 3? well splinter cell conviction at the same time date but if you meant games, then a lil sumthing called halo reach? mabye uve heard of it oh and infamous 2 :L crackdown 2 will p**s over that and resistance 3 will get s**tted over by gears of war 3. modnation racers looks good but u forget joyride which is free
@Charlie Bell ~ Actually, yeah Sony do have a say, they gave PD permission to pospone the release of GT5 in order to carry on adding more features. Also, Blu-ray was always going to win, it can show content in better quality and can hold a substancial more amount of data too, HD DVDs never stood a chance.
@David ~ Offering more of the same isn't a bad thing, especially if that's what the people want. However, you are right though, they have been lacking in bringing new IPs in the last few years, and the variety in the games they do create, isn't very wide.
@HITMANBAZZA ~ Alan Wake isn't all to come for the 360, they also have Mass Effect 2, Splintercell Conviction (both available on PC), Crackdown 2, Fable III and Halo Reach. Don't forget, all 3 companies probably still have a few unannounced titles up their sleeves.
inFAMOUS, Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 most likely won't be here until 2011. All of which I'm looking forward too.
@Dorian ~ I disagree with the PS3 games you mentioned being cheap knock offs, they may have a couple similar traits, some more so than others, but they aren't cheap knock offs considering most of them are better than the games you listed against them, in my opinion. Also, Gears of War and Mass Effect aren't owned by M$, so you can't use them as examples of M$ bringin us new IPs.
360 games do outsell PS3 games, we all know that, it's mainly because the 360 has a larger install base than the PS3, and to be honest, there aren't many games to choose from on the 360, PS3 has more variety and more to choose from, so sales are shared more, and Sony isn't that great when it comes to marketing their games, but I think thats beginning to change. Also, I personally think that the 360 community is pro shooters, which is why Halo and other shooters sell extremely well and why games like Forza 3 did average. Mass Effect 2 sold 2M in first week, not first day.
Using magazines to back up your argument is futile, since there are a same amount saying its another year for the PS3. I think this will be a close year, with both companies bringing out a solid line up of quality games (Sony bringing more) and they both have their own versions of motion control too, both of which won't do nearly as well as the Wii as the Wii has already dominated the casual market.
God of War 3 and Splintercell are 2 very different games, so they aren't really competing against each other, not to mention GOW3 releases over a month before. Again, inFAMOUS 2 and Crackdown are fairly different, I wouldn't say they aren't competing as inFAMOUS 2 won't be here until 2011. Resistance 3 and Gears 3, yeah guess so, but one is an FPS and the other is a TPS. Using Joyride against Modnation Racers is silly, yeah both are both arcade racers, but ModNation Racers offers a lot more creativeness, and Joyride is a free arcade game. You mention Halo Reach, I'd say that Killzone 3 would be a better suit for competition.
@SICARIUS1 ~ I disagree, it may not sell extremely well, most PS3 exclusives don't, average being between 2 and 3M, but it will sell. Also, the game itself is triple A status, the games main feature is how it is telling the story, immersing the player in the deep and emotional story. It's different from every other game, yes, but that is what adds to the excitement, knowing that you aren't gonna be playing a game that comes around all the time.
@ssorc_bro, could you be any more of sony fanboy so stfu :L killzone 2 was a sequel that was very boring and a doubt the multiplayer is played as much as any game from the halo series, and your excuse for sony not selling games is pitiful, more variety on ps3? BULLs**t lets take 2 weeks ago for exampsle the 360 realsesd 3 games and the ps3 2 games, and they still outsold them heavily, the 360 has more variety you cant deny that. there are some exclusives that dont get mentions such as sherlock holmes vs jack the ripper and stoked. the ps3 has alot of good games but to say it has a better variety than 360 is wrong and you know it so next time u decide to comment take your head out of sonys bumhole
Well people the reviews that come out for Heavy Rain so far have been 90+ so I doubt very much that sony will have tears of sadness more like tears of delightfulness!!
this game is going to be well worth the risk to the cult following who adopt it and adore it. it may not be a commercial success, but the best things very rarely go mainstream. that being said it may well do brilliantly at retail just on strength of word alone.
Woah the smell of Xbot fanboy troller Bulls**t in this thread after I posted just went up a notch...Xbox fanboys get a life!
@Drusus: Hahahaha you must be a bit hard of hearing but I've never found their stuff to all sound the same really... , you probably like Dragonforce don't you? If not nevermind.
@dorian2011: Jesus you couldn't be more wrong, Natal is just what the orignal SONY Eye Toy camera Idea should have been, so I think you'll find that was an Idea stolen by M$...
Jebus H. Krist. Where to begin? I'd say Sony do take more risks in their games- my PS3 game library however remains a little slim (Uncharted 2 and Wipeout = very good. Heavenly Sword and Killzone 2 = a bit poo)- hopefully that'll change this year.
I'm most interested in getting Mass Effect 2 (hasn't been delivered yet), Alan Wake, Halo Reach, Splinter Cell and The Last Guardian... I remain a bit sceptical of Heavy Rain at least until I try the demo. Farenheit was a bit... hmmmm... I hope that one day QTE's will be banned forever. I can only dream.
Oh, and I want to get my hands on a copy of Demon Souls too. Just need to find it at a descent price.
Anyone who uses terms like M$ and $ony ('cos it's sooooo funny!) ain't gamers in my opinion, just angry kids. And with that remark I've probably pi**ed off half of the people here on CVG.
@Dorian, are you really that pathetic that you can't have a decent converstation/debate without throwing insults, ffs. Why don't you try and not through an insult the next time you comment, or is that too hard for you to do.
I'm pro PS3, not Sony, get it right, so what if I do prefer PS3 to 360, sure as hell doesn't make me a fanboy, so stop with your ignorance.
When did I once mention that Killzone 2 wasn't a sequel? Anyway, you thinking it is boring is your opinion, nothing wrong with that. I have no idea how much or often this game is played, I haven't been on for some time to see, and of course it won't be played as much as Halo, near enough every kid on the 360 either plays COD or Halo, and that's the truth, so don't even try to deny that.
Was wide variety my only reason, no, I also said its down to marketing, which is true, Sony fails at marketing, they always have, so poor marketing = less awareness = less sales. Simple.
More variety, so Halo, Halo and more Halo equals more variety, lol, don't make me laugh. I've heard of them both, but yeah, I'm sure there are a lot of 360 games I haven't heard of, but same goes for PS3 too, in Japan lays a whole library of PS3 games that your average gamer has never even heard of, betting your one of them.
Also, your comment about 3 360 games outselling 2 PS3 games, which ones are you referring to?
@ssoc_bro- I'm not saying it does'nt look like a great game, I plan on being one of the five people who buy it. Risky, Innovative games don't usually sell (Okami, Shadow of the colossus ect) and in a short release timeframe where games like Bioshock 2, AvP, BFBC2, GOW3 ect. come out, Do you really think most gamers are going to go for a title they know bugger all about like HR or with a sequel to an awesome game like everything I've listed above?
well the games are army of two, vancouver 2010 and some winter olympics game not available on ps3 (again more variety) and dark void has outsold the ps3 version lol oh i do like the ps3 i will pick one up when i finish getting all achievements in the world lol and u mistake me as i am a avid in all types of japanese games such as the gundam series, 3d dot game heroes and atelier ronrona, my problem isnt with the ps3 its with you fanboys and your deluded notions like hitmanbazza aka ps3_f***yboy calling the ps3 his black box of love and saying the 360 is dieing out when in reality if you look at game sales sony need to get there s**t together as some analysts say tht people buy it for a cheap blue ray player, now im sorry bout the insults it just gets me riled up when people talk s**t so if we can all agree that this years has fantastic games for both 360 and ps3 and even the wilii we can all be haopy and play some games
oh and another thing so more singstars have been realsed than halos for your information in the 18months and what about fifa? in the 18 months there will fifa 10, fifa 10 world cup and fifa 11, and what about the loads of mario that come out every year? this is called good business as these games not singstar sell over 4m, now if you call playing lots of your favorite games boring then you are not a gamer at all so dont tell me if sony would release lots of uncharteds or lpbs in a 18 months you wouldnt be pleased BACK TO YOUR CAVE TROLL WHERE YOU CAN CUDDLE BARRY TO SLEEP AND SUCKLE ON SONYS TEET
I'm not sure how the PS3 was a risk, designwise. It's just a PS2 with this current gens features. A natural preogression if you will. The pads even the same, but with triggers and tacked on motion control. Like i said the same but a progression.
Hardwarewise Sony have never taken risks. Software on the otherhand, is a completely different story and heavy rain is no exception. There's far experimental games on the PS3 than 360. then again the wii is also rife with them, however most are not first party.
Really looking forward to heavy rain. Been a fan of quantic dream since the Nomad Soul.
This month my 360s going to get a lot of play time. But next month it'll be time to turn the ps3 on again.
haha i get plenty of respect in my job i dont need it from forum people and i dont mean to insult people just the deluded ones who talk s**t like yourself, and positive i was saying how good the ps3 line up is and how i was going to buy one eventually and how much i like uncharted get ur facts right
haha i get plenty of respect in my job i dont need it from forum people and i dont mean to insult people just the deluded ones who talk s**t like yourself, and positive i was saying how good the ps3 line up is and how i was going to buy one eventually and how much i like uncharted get ur facts right
Well judging by the majority of your poorly grammared posts that have no paragraphs at all in them, I doubt it's a very important job.
well i now work part time as an adviser to scotland yard as my uncle is high up there you see good for my age and i am doing a degree is buisness law help people so i dont do much writing. dam the ps3 fanboys have took my comments a lil too much to heart! truth hurt or what :L
well i now work part time as an adviser to scotland yard as my uncle is high up there you see good for my age and i am doing a degree is buisness law help people so i dont do much writing. dam the ps3 fanboys have took my comments a lil too much to heart! truth hurt or what :L
Yeah mate, it looks better if you can spell the title of your degree.
haha i get plenty of respect in my job i dont need it from forum people and i dont mean to insult people just the deluded ones who talk s**t like yourself, and positive i was saying how good the ps3 line up is and how i was going to buy one eventually and how much i like uncharted get ur facts right
Well judging by the majority of your poorly grammared posts that have no paragraphs at all in them, I doubt it's a very important job.
Considering the amount of jobs that don't really require a person to do much in the way of writting, your comment is amazingly snobbish.
@Dorian, I said both companies have a great line up, I also said in one of my earlier posts that it isn't a bad thing releasing more of the same thing if they are successful and if people want that, which clearly they do.
Also, some winter Olympic game only on the 360... sure you havent just mentioned the same game twice since Vancouver is a winter olympic game?
Yeah, those people are wrong in saying the 360 is dieing, it clearly isn't, and the sales prove it, they are being ignorant. I agree about the blu-ray statement, when the PS3 first released, it wasn't really marketed properly as a gaming machine, again, Sony fail at marketing, and the majority of people who purchased the PS3 were solely after it's capability to play blu-ray movies and not to play games, which also links to why PS3 games sell less than it's 360 counterpart.
Yeah you are right, there have been more Singstar games than Halo released, but is that all we see from Sony? Hell no, you don't see many other big games from M$, first party exclusive wise, that's what I'm getting at. Most of PS3 exclusives are from Sony themselves, whereas M$ have to pay third party developers to make games for them. Not a bad thing, but it would be nice to see some more games coming from their own studios.
most sony games are 2nd party exclusives.So are the bigger 360 ones come to think of it. the only company that puts out games themselves in any great number is nintendo.
I don't think MS actually have a proper internal studio either. they just own a few or have binding contracts with them for certain games.
Sony pretty much do the same as MS except they do have an internal studio that does put out games from time to time but not as much as they used to.
@Charlie Bell ~ Actually, yeah Sony do have a say, they gave PD permission to pospone the release of GT5 in order to carry on adding more features. Also, Blu-ray was always going to win, it can show content in better quality and can hold a substancial more amount of data too, HD DVDs never stood a chance.
Yeah and Betamax was a superior format to VHS, but Sony lost that battle too. Sure, Sony may be able to show to the public that they are tolerating the delays, but can you really imagine them being able to walk into PD offices and saying "we want it done, now!". No chance. I don't think they have any real power to do so, because they will know the consequences.
thanks only_77 thats dude was very snobbish lol and lets call a truce ssorc its stupid argueing lol and haha voodoo i always miss that letter lol my tutors do complain lol on a diffrent note does anyone know a uk release date for rainy woods now known as deadly premonition? its a 360 and ps3 title looks really good
As much as Heavy Rain looks a really good game to play (and I'm going to miss out on playing it too) it will flop. Its far too cerebral and niche for the majority of games players, and no person who doesn't have a ps3 already is going to go out of their way to get one because of this.
The only important ps3 games this year at GT GoW3 and FF13 - they are the only ones who are going to pull in the less hardcore crowd who haven't upgraded from a ps2 yet or drag people across from a 360.
Um, Dorian, you state that it is an advantage that MS always have the cash to bring out the next console.
I'm not so sure.
They've managed to bring out what is probably the most unreliable consumer product ever released so I can't help but wonder if they were trying to cut corners.
Not so sure they have infinite money...I think they're just happy to knock out a cheap product and charge premium prices for it - what they've always done in the pc market...
@Charlie ~ you do have a point, they may not have much control over the time its taking anymore, because they have invested way too much money into the games development to just demand it to be finished by this date, but they could start putting stricter deadlines, that's if they aren't already doing so. Must be putting quite a strain on Sony. This game is indeed taking forever, kinda p**sed a lot of people off that it was delayed another year, considering the developers said they could have released it in 2009, so patience is starting to wear thin, hopefully the wait will be worth it.
@Dorian ~ truce. lol
Deadly premonition... never heard of it, might have to read up on this game.
ps3_f***yboy you got the wrong guy i never said that lol and i do agree with you theyhave the most shocking realibilty about 3 years ago now the red ring of death is as likely as the yellow line of doom, least microsoft had the decency to up the warannty, least theve learned from there mistake this is not a shot at sony just to clarify lol
and deadly premonition formally called rainy woods is like the love child of heavy rain and alan wake lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obTH4kqPiMM i wish it cud get a uk release along with jurassic the hunted
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i think you will find natal is a big risk and they have took many risks this gen unlike sony who copy everyones ideas
Well excited.
