Apple CEO Steve Jobs has announced the iPad at the Yerba Buena Center in San Francisco.
Here's what we know so far:
The iPad will be able to browse the Web, read email, read books and play games as well as work with Apple's iTunes store. Users can download apps like they can on the iPhone and people with both an iPhone and iPad will be able to synchronise apps between the two.
It's said to be half-an-inch thick, weighs 1.5 pounds and features a 9.7 inch IPS display. Jobs described the device as "super high quality" and it will be available in 16GB, 32GB and 64GB models.
Jobs told the gathered audience of journalists and analysts that the iPad will let users hold the whole web in their hands. "What this device does is extraordinary. It is the best browsing experience you have ever had," he said.
It also allows users to download apps, in a similar way to the iPhone. People with both can synchronise their apps between the two devices.
You can see a gallery of pictures from the Yerba Buena Center at Gizmodo.
EA was present at the showcase (via Kotaku) and the firm showcased Need For Speed running on the iPad.
I wasn't impressed by this at all. The iPhone look doesn't suit the size of the device imo and Apple should have started from the 32Gb model and scrapped the 16Gb model.
Wow, apple have finally completely disappeared up their own bottom! Months of hype and they deliver a oversized iphone! How can steve jobs claim that netbooks are not good at anything while holding that piece of overpriced sh!t.
My netbook cost me £250, has a 160gb hard drive a 1.6 ghz processor and has 1GB ram alongside a 2GB readyboost sd card. It has USB ports, VGA port, 2 SD card ports and a network port. I can browse the net as good as pretty much anything and I can run flash apps. It also runs photoshop, visual studio 2008, lightroom 2 and pretty much anything else. The only thing it can't really do is full gaming as the GPU is not really up to much.
Steve Jobs claims that this ipad offers the best browsing experience he has ever had.... the thing does not have flash! (plus safari renders fonts in a particularly horrible way). He must have been browsing on lynx all his life if he thinks it offers the best browsing experience he has ever had.....
God I hate apple more and more every day...
The thing is they will sell millions of these things as people will buy anything as long as it is marketed well.
I've got an iPhone. I've got a laptop. I honestly don't know why I would need such a costly device. Keyboard isn't as useable as a laptop and it's not portable like a phone and it'll be a very expensive purchase. It screams out inconvenient to me, and I simply don't get why I would ever need one of these.
If I were to get a tablet at all I'd wait and get a Windows 7 one. Wouldn't be any less attractive and you can actually do things with it.
I'm a mac fan but this is a daft idea. It's a giant iPod. No camera, no expandable storage, it runs iphone's version of OS X rather than a proper OS, no flash. I wont be parting with my iphone, macbook or £400-600 anytime soon.
I disagree with all of you. I can easily see this becoming a huge succes, spawning a whole new format/way of computing/gaming.
It's a book format, get it.
That hasn't been done before.
A interactive book page. No keyboard, no clumsy whatever. This was built to be a winner. To start a new step in this ever evolving evolution towards the future.
In the future we will all be reading digital newspapers. Well, the future is all around us, happening as we speak.
The interactive book format will gain mass market succes because of it's size (I saw this comming cause there's a market for it, but I would have made it A4 shaped. Like a clipboard, but that will come in time) and because it is a part of the hugely succesfull I-whatever family.
That guy Steve Jacobs deserves his paycheck, whatever that is. That guy saved apple. Again.
I don't have an I phone. I'm not in to all that, yet, but it's fascinating to see trends beeing made.
This will be a new succes, I'm pretty sure. Maybe in a year or two when you look at it in the hands of Averege Joe, and you start to want one, you will finally agree.
Personally I find the format too flat vs how high it is. Clipboard A4 would have been better. More office suited, with notebook, briefcase and all, but it will find it's place.
Man, wish that I worked at apple getting these ideas.
That's right, folks Apple have made the first EVER tablet computer that is less powerful that anything else! Does it run normal applications? Of course not! That would waste your time and money! This way you can buy all new apps that do less than your other software, which means you don't have to worry about what to spend your money on. Apple have taken care of that for you.
I mean for God's sake, it doesn't even have a camera. And all your chat about 'book' format - it has a 10 hour battery life. E-reader will be kicking its bottom before it even comes out. This springs to mind http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/howfanboysseeoperatingsystems.jpg
I agree that with the above poster it will be a huge sucess ... doesn't mean it deserves to be though ..
Basically Apple have been very clever and just taken the iPhone and scaled it up, knowing that everybody will recognise it straight away ..
Dont get me wrong Im not anti Apple, I have a mac mini and love it to bits, however I detest everything that the iPhone stands for tbh ... and everyone seems to have one its bloody daft ...
Personally I will wait for a decent win7 tablet to appear which wont be too long anyway .. Would rather have the flexibity of one of those than this ... it doesn't even have OSX on it ffs
I disagree with all of you. I can easily see this becoming a huge succes, spawning a whole new format/way of computing/gaming.
It's a book format, get it.
That hasn't been done before.
A interactive book page. No keyboard, no clumsy whatever. This was built to be a winner. To start a new step in this ever evolving evolution towards the future.
In the future we will all be reading digital newspapers. Well, the future is all around us, happening as we speak.
The interactive book format will gain mass market succes because of it's size (I saw this comming cause there's a market for it, but I would have made it A4 shaped. Like a clipboard, but that will come in time) and because it is a part of the hugely succesfull I-whatever family.
That guy Steve Jacobs deserves his paycheck, whatever that is. That guy saved apple. Again.
I don't have an I phone. I'm not in to all that, yet, but it's fascinating to see trends beeing made.
This will be a new succes, I'm pretty sure. Maybe in a year or two when you look at it in the hands of Averege Joe, and you start to want one, you will finally agree.
Personally I find the format too flat vs how high it is. Clipboard A4 would have been better. More office suited, with notebook, briefcase and all, but it will find it's place.
Man, wish that I worked at apple getting these ideas.
Arh, forget it, I just wish I had their money
You are joking I hope...
Apple have not invented a new format. Tablets have been around for decades! Also while you were thinking about this new book format did Kindle, Nook, Sony e-reader etc etc not pop into your mind (Apple have not invented a new way to read books)? Reading e-books on this thing will be a nightmare! E-books normally have e-ink screens which are perfect for reading as they cause less strain on the eyes and offer the other benefit of massive battery life as they only use power when turning pages. This has non of those benefits. I could just as easily read the ebooks on my netbook. The cost is just stupid!
I may have jumped the gun though and your post may (and hopefully is) just sarcasm.
Hmm.. more nay-sayer while I wrote my previous reply.
Ok, here's one more: Portable gaming.
No more tiny psp/ds screens.
I'not, but everbody who's into portable gaming should cherris this.
'Just whip the screen out and play.'
And books.
Why buy books when you can buy one template, one page, and then any book can appear.
'Just whip your screen out and play.'
If this is done right it WILL gain mass market succes.
Personally, as said I'm not into all of that, so I'm not attacking you other posters, nor hailing apple in any way whatsoever, I'm just beeing realistic. I also, like you guys, think it looks a little clumsy and silly, but that was also my opinion regarding the I-phone.... and see where that went, in no time everybody seem to be getting it.
(And I-pods are so common now (here in Denmark) that it's getting surreal.)
So in all I still predict this a winner, because people seem to have embrased the I-brand.
May well be sad, but look around you. It actually is true.
And whith that said, haters or not, I still respect a man with a vision that pushes the limit of our everyday world.
Most of you guys just seem to be moaning and not much else.
It's not that it provokes me, I just wonder where all this anger comes from.
Hmm.. more nay-sayer while I wrote my previous reply.
Ok, here's one more: Portable gaming.
No more tiny psp/ds screens.
I'not, but everbody who's into portable gaming should cherris this.
'Just whip the screen out and play.'
And books.
Why buy books when you can buy one template, one page, and then any book can appear.
'Just whip your screen out and play.'
If this is done right it WILL gain mass market succes.
Personally, as said I'm not into all of that, so I'm not attacking you other posters, nor hailing apple in any way whatsoever, I'm just beeing realistic. I also, like you guys, think it looks a little clumsy and silly, but that was also my opinion regarding the I-phone.... and see where that went, in no time everybody seem to be getting it.
(And I-pods are so common now (here in Denmark) that it's getting surreal.)
So in all I still predict this a winner, because people seem to have embrased the I-brand.
May well be sad, but look around you. It actually is true.
And whith that said, haters or not, I still respect a man with a vision that pushes the limit of our everyday world.
Most of you guys just seem to be moaning and not much else.
It's not that it provokes me, I just wonder where all this anger comes from.
The only thing I'm a little angry about is that this will sell millions because it's Apple. It's like the MacBook Air a few years back - great bit of design, impressive, but ultimately utterly useless and pointless.
As an E-Book reader this will be completely outclassed by every dedicated device because of the screen and battery life.
It's too big to truly be a portable gaming device, as it's not really any smaller than a netbook. The reason DS/PSP screens are small is so you can put them in your pocket.
It doesn't run a proper OS, so it's not going to be that handy for work, and I can't see anyone writing full documents with a touchscreen keyboard.
There are no USB ports.
No. USB. Ports.
Maybe in 6 months when they update it and release another version they'll have a product that is a bit closer to being useful. Until then, you could buy a Windows/Linux laptop that wasn't much bigger and was a proper computer that let you do things.
Hmm.. more nay-sayer while I wrote my previous reply.
Ok, here's one more: Portable gaming.
No more tiny psp/ds screens.
I'not, but everbody who's into portable gaming should cherris this.
'Just whip the screen out and play.'
And books.
Why buy books when you can buy one template, one page, and then any book can appear.
'Just whip your screen out and play.'
If this is done right it WILL gain mass market succes.
Personally, as said I'm not into all of that, so I'm not attacking you other posters, nor hailing apple in any way whatsoever, I'm just beeing realistic. I also, like you guys, think it looks a little clumsy and silly, but that was also my opinion regarding the I-phone.... and see where that went, in no time everybody seem to be getting it.
(And I-pods are so common now (here in Denmark) that it's getting surreal.)
So in all I still predict this a winner, because people seem to have embrased the I-brand.
May well be sad, but look around you. It actually is true.
And whith that said, haters or not, I still respect a man with a vision that pushes the limit of our everyday world.
Most of you guys just seem to be moaning and not much else.
It's not that it provokes me, I just wonder where all this anger comes from.
Envy? Self confidence? jealousy?
Why not try something new:
Serious/constructive critisism.
I just can't understand what you are getting at? If is a bigger screen you want then my £250 netbook has a 10.1" screen (ie bigger than the ipad) it also has a faster processor and much more storage. Oh and it has buttons which are often useful for gaming. I can also plug in my 360 joypad etc. Currently playing Cannon fodder on winuae on my netbook.
I don't understand why you think this ipad has come up with anything new apart from changing way over the top prices for what is a netbook lite.
And stop with the ebook thing as this ipad is no better for reading ebooks than any laptop or netbook. if you have any understanding of technology at all you will understand why e-ink is the way forward for ebooks.
I'm that little in to that. My bad, my loss, I know
But look around you in maybe 2-3 years and let's talk again.
Look at the exponentially rising amount of I-pods and I-phones around you in everyday picture.
Why?
I-tablet is easy to use.
As I-phone.
As I-pod.
And they have been/will be ambrased by mass market because they don't give a damm about some kindle nook sony thing. These users, like myself, are not into all of these nerdy gadgets.
They don't interest us.
The I-brand has been accepted by the mass market and is therefore, by definition not nerdy anymore.
This is the new member of the I-family, and the world seem to have embrased that brand long ago, even deemed it 'cool'.
Mass market don't have strong individual opinions, they usually follow trends. Also sad but true.
So, no, I'm not beeing sarcastic. But sorry for the 'inventing a new format' on a taken litteraly note.
It was meant as in 'making the format main stream in the western mass market in maybe 2-3 yars.' (running improvements and price-cuts a factor ofcourse)
I'm that little in to that. My bad, my loss, I know
But look around you in maybe 2-3 years and let's talk again.
Look at the exponentially rising amount of I-pods and I-phones around you in everyday picture.
Why?
I-tablet is easy to use.
As I-phone.
As I-pod.
And they have been/will be ambrased by mass market because they don't give a damm about some kindle nook sony thing. These users, like myself, are not into all of these nerdy gadgets.
They don't interest us.
The I-brand has been accepted by the mass market and is therefore, by definition not nerdy anymore.
This is the new member of the I-family, and the world seem to have embrased that brand long ago, even deemed it 'cool'.
Mass market don't have strong individual opinions, they usually follow trends. Also sad but true.
So, no, I'm not beeing sarcastic. But sorry for the 'inventing a new format' on a taken litteraly note.
It was meant as in 'making the format main stream in the western mass market in maybe 2-3 yars.' (running improvements and price-cuts a factor ofcourse)
I will agree that it will sell loads. The public has shown that they know nothing about technology and will buy what ever is advertised the best (which apple are great at). Just look at the ipod, there are many players that are cheaper with better sound quality but they are always overlooked. I however love my Samsung P3.
I do suggest though that if you want the best technology you look into things a bit more. Just buying apple because you can't be bothered to look elsewhere is simply stupid. Would you buy a new car without testing a few competitors? Are you one of the many people that believes Apple invented copy and paste on phones?
This is ridiculous! Who wants to hold it whilst watching a video? I know, better prop it up against something - very cool ... Oh yeah, I love the fact that my chiropractor will be laughing all the way to the bank, after my neck stops working from typing at an awkward angle. One finger typing - ingenious! Best go out and buy a giant sized jacket so I can fit it in my pocket, or shall I spend my money on a suitcase? On second thought, I'll just use it at home or at the office, it's so needed. It will be like ... owning a computer, just worse. Then again, thank God I can look at a screen to read a book. I hate paper, it's so bland. I need shiny shiny shiny! This is going to flop BIG TIME.
No, I don't have anything to do with apple. I'm a normal poor danish guy with a normal job (nursery assistant), painting pictures and making electronic music on the side. and playing quality games of course.
I agree with darry
It beats the laptop as a book, because you dont flip the thing open and reveal a gigantic keyboard the size of the whole darn screen. You just whip out the screen and touch it. See many female laptop users on a portable basis, in say a bus stop or a train? People mostly use laptops for work stuff, when on the road, apart from the odd movie) But to just touch the screen and nothing else. Women will love this. It will be mass market.
'just whip it out and play/read/surf/whatever' (insert 1950 style commercial voiceover)
Anyway, thinkin of buying ME2 tomorrow if it's out in Denmark. Is is any good or what, cmon guys?
This is ridiculous! Who wants to hold it whilst watching a video? I know, better prop it up against something - very cool ... Oh yeah, I love the fact that my chiropractor will be laughing all the way to the bank, after my neck stops working from typing at an awkward angle. One finger typing - ingenious! Best go out and buy a giant sized jacket so I can fit it in my pocket, or shall I spend my money on a suitcase? On second thought, I'll just use it at home or at the office, it's so needed. It will be like ... owning a computer, just worse. Then again, thank God I can look at a screen to read a book. I hate paper, it's so bland. I need shiny shiny shiny! This is going to flop BIG TIME.
I think you are forgetting that there are millions that have bought ipods and iphones so this thing will sell loads no matter how useless it is.
That's a much better subject to be talking about! Disappointingly I won't be able to buy it for a least three weeks due to travelling and work... Rubbish! Still, it'll be all the sweeter when I get it.
No, I don't have anything to do with apple. I'm a normal poor danish guy with a normal job (nursery assistant), painting pictures and making electronic music on the side. and playing quality games of course.
I agree with darry
It beats the laptop as a book, because you dont flip the thing open and reveal a gigantic keyboard the size of the whole darn screen. You just whip out the screen and touch it. See many female laptop users on a portable basis, in say a bus stop or a train? People mostly use laptops for work stuff, when on the road, apart frm the odd movie) But to just touch the screen and nothing else. Women will love this. It will be mass market.
'just whip it out and play/read/surf/whatever' (insert 1950 style commercial voiceover)
Anyway, thinkin of buying ME2 tomorrow if it's out in Denmark. Is is any good or what, cmon guys?
If you are a normal person on normal wages then do youself a favour and stay away from apples rip-off hardware.
How is this better than a windows tablet (which by the way have been out in one form or other for decades)? If you value your eyesight you will not be using this to read ebooks. I urge you to go to a store and have a look at a sony e-reader and then tell me that this apple device is great for ebooks!
Also what on earth is wrong with a keyboard? I have been using them for decades and I think they are quite useful
Good to see Apple still doing their bit to clearly define the phrase 'fashion over function.'
If their previous form is anything to go by, the ipad should be meeting todays standard technological specs in about 2 years time. That is of course after they've cruely raped your bank accounts two or three times with each new version they release, just to add another function that should have been on the thing all along.
How many iterations of the iphone did they have to release before they included functions like 3G and a mediocre video camera?
But despite everything I've just written and everyone's past experiences with the ipharce, people will still be tugging themselves off over this and it will fly out of shops like hot s**t off a shovel. All because people want that little apple sign and some white earphones that make sure everyone else knows they've got one.
Good to see Apple still doing their bit to clearly define the phrase 'fashion over function.'
If their previous form is anything to go by, the ipad should be meeting todays standard technological specs in about 2 years time. That is of course after they've cruely raped your bank accounts two or three times with each new version they release, just to add another function that should have been on the thing all along.
How many iterations of the iphone did they have to release before they included functions like 3G and a mediocre video camera?
But despite everything I've just written and everyone's past experiences with the ipharce, people will still be tugging themselves off over this and it will fly out of shops like hot s**t off a shovel. All because people want that little apple sign and some white earphones that make sure everyone else knows they've got one.
I think we have a contender for "Quotes of The Week" list. Ya hear, CVG?
I went from ignoring to disliking apple fans when I saw the pricetag vs spec of their computers, they literally rob you blind and people are stupid enough to pay through the nose... my favorate quote of all time from an apple user a girl in my art class at school (full of people with more money than sense). Girl: "I love my new Ipod Video but I cant work out how to get any videos onto it"...nuff said
Edit: To clarify I have some mates studying Music Tech (who aren't stupid) who have told me time after time that macs are a nececity for music based computing so that's fair enough.
Edit: To clarify I have some mates studying Music Tech (who aren't stupid) who have told me time after time that macs are a nececity for music based computing so that's fair enough.
Well that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! I know a musician and audio technician that uses PCs for all his work. In fact I am pretty sure "Pro Tools" is the industry standard music software and it is available for both mac and pc. It is just a similar situation to that of graphics artists. ie macs were the defacto standard decades ago for creative work due to better software and more powerful computers (this was before windows 95). This means that these industries have never let go of the mac side. I know many graphics artists that tell me that they can't use pcs for their work. They use photoshop and illustrator which I also use on my PC and are exactly the same (in fact I think they have a couple of extra features on the PC due to OS specifics).
Tell your mates to open their eyes! (They could save themselves a fortune)
While i agree its both too early to say whether its worth it, and it seems to be completely in the wrong demographic..
and yes I have a mac, yes it's all I've ever used and yes I'm quite happy with them thank you very much.
Just be happy we're given a choice...hopefully this will drive innovation like the Ipod and Iphone did.
How many iterations of the iphone did they have to release before they included functions like 3G and a mediocre video camera?
How many 360s did you go through before they fixed the heat sink? Waddaya know, its the evolution of a design and lowering of material costs!
sony e-reader and then tell me that this apple device is great for ebooks!
And how many books are available on the e-reader compared to the Kindle and the deals on the Ipad? Sure the screen isn't as good for it..i'll give you that.
If you can't afford it, or don't want it..don't buy it. Don't sneer at people who do though...thats just pathetic.
But despite everything I've just written and everyone's past experiences with the ipharce, people will still be tugging themselves off over this and it will fly out of shops like hot s**t off a shovel. All because people want that little apple sign and some white earphones that make sure everyone else knows they've got one.
and despite the fact they revolutionised the industry, became an innovator in hardware and gave us a streamlined way to buy music everyone will still bitch about them. Funny about that.
Edit: To clarify I have some mates studying Music Tech (who aren't stupid) who have told me time after time that macs are a nececity for music based computing so that's fair enough.
Well that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! I know a musician and audio technician that uses PCs for all his work. In fact I am pretty sure "Pro Tools" is the industry standard music software and it is available for both mac and pc. It is just a similar situation to that of graphics artists. ie macs were the defacto standard decades ago for creative work due to better software and more powerful computers (this was before windows 95). This means that these industries have never let go of the mac side. I know many graphics artists that tell me that they can't use pcs for their work. They use photoshop and illustrator which I also use on my PC and are exactly the same (in fact I think they have a couple of extra features on the PC due to OS specifics).
Tell your mates to open their eyes! (They could save themselves a fortune)
You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. The BBC is run on macs Sky News is run on macs News International is run on Macs the majority of sound design is run on macs no offense, and your point is valid..but the reality of the situation is completely different. The software and the knowledge and support for them are far superior to those given by the PC side of things...and they're easier to deal with.
I'm in awe at just how s**t this thing is. They've got money to burn so they can afford a flop and I'll be surprised if it doesn't sink without trace. For a start the format is bizarre: where's the market for something that's as big as a netbook, but locked down like an iPhone or iPod? The e-book is a far from proven format and anyway 'e-paper' is designed to be comfortable for long bouts of reading - I can't imagine this thing's screen will compare in that context.
Yes, the mass-market have already bought iPhones and iPods; but I can't see them shelling out more money on a piece of hardware that does what exactly? Runs a handful of Apple apps and ties you into buying any new applications through the App store: they've already got that in their pocket, why would they want it in a format that's so much less portable?
As for "wait and see, in a few years time everyone will have one"... b******s, in a few year's time, when all the other smartphones are running proper browsers and Flash, iPhone users are still going to be locked into buying 'apps' from the App store, whilst the rest of us get equivalent functionality for free over the web. And the poor schmucks who buy one of these are going to be using it as a place-mat.
Apple computers have their merits, and I have to respect the iPhone (as a marketing success if nothing else) but this is just hilarious...
Edit: To clarify I have some mates studying Music Tech (who aren't stupid) who have told me time after time that macs are a nececity for music based computing so that's fair enough.
(and the rest)
Hello. My name is Dan. I have a Bachelor of Music's degree in sound design and engineering. I have used a PC with Pro Tools for most of my work. In University I used Macs a bit. They were OK. They were not better. They crashed just as much when loaded with GBs of audio and video data. My PC ran everything I needed to the same standard, and cost about 2/3 of the price.
My friend Tom works for Random House, one of the biggest publishers in the world. They run PCs in house.
My friend Ben works for the BBC, and does most, but by no means all of his work on Macs.
Anyone who thinks that everything is done on Macs is an idiot. Same goes if you put 'PCs' in that statement.
While i agree its both too early to say whether its worth it, and it seems to be completely in the wrong demographic..
and yes I have a mac, yes it's all I've ever used and yes I'm quite happy with them thank you very much.
Just be happy we're given a choice...hopefully this will drive innovation like the Ipod and Iphone did.
How many iterations of the iphone did they have to release before they included functions like 3G and a mediocre video camera?
How many 360s did you go through before they fixed the heat sink? Waddaya know, its the evolution of a design and lowering of material costs!
sony e-reader and then tell me that this apple device is great for ebooks!
And how many books are available on the e-reader compared to the Kindle and the deals on the Ipad? Sure the screen isn't as good for it..i'll give you that.
If you can't afford it, or don't want it..don't buy it. Don't sneer at people who do though...thats just pathetic.
But despite everything I've just written and everyone's past experiences with the ipharce, people will still be tugging themselves off over this and it will fly out of shops like hot s**t off a shovel. All because people want that little apple sign and some white earphones that make sure everyone else knows they've got one.
and despite the fact they revolutionised the industry, became an innovator in hardware and gave us a streamlined way to buy music everyone will still bitch about them. Funny about that.
The sony e-book supports open formats etc so has a vast collection available. However my point was not that it is better than kindle but that it is available in many stores to have a play with unlike the kindle. It was a suggestion to go and have a look at an e-ink screen not the particular make of e-reader.
360s faults were design flaws not and were replaced for free. The iphones missing features were design decisions and were not replaced for free. Then when these features were finally put in apple make it seem as if they almost invented the features, even though they had been standard in most phones for some time! I had copy and paste in my orange spvs a long time before the iphone arrived.
I am not sneering at anyone, I am merely pointing out that if you want to make the most of your money then non apple products are normally a cheaper and often better option. I was also pointing out that it is always worth checking out the competition as it is the sensible thing to do. I know many people that are not even aware that any music players other than the ipod exist! If they went around demoing other players I imagine most would buy another make.
Edit: To clarify I have some mates studying Music Tech (who aren't stupid) who have told me time after time that macs are a nececity for music based computing so that's fair enough.
Well that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! I know a musician and audio technician that uses PCs for all his work. In fact I am pretty sure "Pro Tools" is the industry standard music software and it is available for both mac and pc. It is just a similar situation to that of graphics artists. ie macs were the defacto standard decades ago for creative work due to better software and more powerful computers (this was before windows 95). This means that these industries have never let go of the mac side. I know many graphics artists that tell me that they can't use pcs for their work. They use photoshop and illustrator which I also use on my PC and are exactly the same (in fact I think they have a couple of extra features on the PC due to OS specifics).
Tell your mates to open their eyes! (They could save themselves a fortune)
You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. The BBC is run on macs Sky News is run on macs News International is run on Macs the majority of sound design is run on macs no offense, and your point is valid..but the reality of the situation is completely different. The software and the knowledge and support for them are far superior to those given by the PC side of things...and they're easier to deal with.
Not in the slightest. Most of these places use macs simply because they traditionally always have. Macs are not easier to deal with than PCs, in fact they are PCs and even run the same processors!
It's the perfect device to sniff coke from, as I'm sure 'celebrities' & 'fashionistas' are gonna be all over this like a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest... on ice!
Actually Rory Cellan-Jones, over at the BBC, puts it quite well:
The iPad is in effect a giant iPhone which can do just about everything the phone can do but may provide a better way of watching video or playing games.
How many people are really going to want that? Sure you'll pull your iPhone or iPod out of your bag to watch a video on the tube home; but you're not going to be carrying one of these around just for that...
And now I can't get the image out of my head of someone holding one of these up to their ear having a phone conversation
Actually Rory Cellan-Jones, over at the BBC, puts it quite well:
The iPad is in effect a giant iPhone which can do just about everything the phone can do but may provide a better way of watching video or playing games.
How many people are really going to want that? Sure you'll pull your iPhone or iPod out of your bag to watch a video on the tube home; but you're not going to be carrying one of these around just for that...
And now I can't get the image out of my head of someone holding one of these up to their ear having a phone conversation
Like a slightly more up to date trigger happy tv... "Hello... I'm on my ipad.... No it's Cr&p".
I refuse to buy anything with an Apple logo on it, just because they don't seem to perform on par or greater than other equivalent devices. Their OS on the other hand was pretty nice, worked out great for the Macs but ultimately they had to bow out to Microsoft with their flood the market with OS approach. All I see are people using ipods, some are so stupid that they(real story) went to purchase an MP3(ipod) and asked what was the difference between and Ipod and an Mp3 player. Apple idiots are everywhere, I don't get it! Didn't know that minds were so weak that they prefer to utilize something based on looks over something that functions.
I phone is a nice looking device, but I have yet to see the reason to purchase one, no one has yet to give me a valid reason to, a big apps store isnt going to get me to use something that resides on an inferior network, has a non removable battery and comes with non upgradeable memory. My Blackberry provides me with all the functions I need.
That said I expect a lot of people will be buying these things, it looks too big to be anything less that cumbersome, unless you use a tote bag. 10hr battery life with wireless, that with wireless turned off right? I can't see that with wireless on, worse when they bring the 3G enabled device. Apple faithful are by a large amount lemmings, buying anything with Apple logo attached to it. Hopefully one day these will wake up and actually use their brains before their synapses are completely taken over by microscopic appleoids.
Well now I have some more ammo to use against them when they tell me Macs are better for "this that this" lol. Even if software is specifically designed for and works better on Macs that is no excuse for apple to charge almost 3 times the worth of the components for their tech!
Well now I have some more ammo to use against them when they tell me Macs are better for "this that this" lol. Even if software is specifically designed for and works better on Macs that is no excuse for apple to charge almost 3 times the worth of the components for their tech!
Their excuse is that most people know nothing about tech and are obsessed about how other people see them. Thus there are a lot of people that will see apples ads ad then go out and buy the ipad. Lets face it there are a ton of excellent music players out there that offer better sound quality and a cheaper price than the ipods but apple sell a lot of ipods as the majority of people are more bothered about image than the quality of the product. (Remember there are actually people that have bought the porsche cayenne!)
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So all Apple users/buyers are lemmings, yeah bravo for the constructive and compelling argument. As a Mac user for many years I can confirm that as both equipment and an operating system Macs still p**s all over PCs in terms of functionality, simplicity, compatibility and innovation. I use a PC for work use with Windows 7 and it does not come close to my iMac on all these fronts.
This ipad will sell like hotcakes whether the peasants like it or not, not sure about it myself it will have to have some pretty special features to overcome the use of the ipod touch. However one thing this is clearly not supposed to be (as some retards have tried to say) is a fully functioning laptop, Apple already have that area sewn up remember.
I don't see this catching the market well. It's going for between the iPhone and a laptop... Maybe some iPhone buyers will go for an iPad, but it's huge and hardly practical.. and laptop users.. i don't see that many going for an iPad inside of a windows laptop. As for the gaming, technically it doesn't look that impressive, plus it's huge! Playing that on the Cliche Portable Gaming Bus would just be ridiculous!
A nice luxury, sure, but expensive and non-essential.
So all Apple users/buyers are lemmings, yeah bravo for the constructive and compelling argument. As a Mac user for many years I can confirm that as both equipment and an operating system Macs still p**s all over PCs in terms of functionality, simplicity, compatibility and innovation. I use a PC for work use with Windows 7 and it does not come close to my iMac on all these fronts.
This ipad will sell like hotcakes whether the peasants like it or not, not sure about it myself it will have to have some pretty special features to overcome the use of the ipod touch. However one thing this is clearly not supposed to be (as some retards have tried to say) is a fully functioning laptop, Apple already have that area sewn up remember.
Yea sure like i said, mostly lemmings. You sound like one with your almost intelligible rant. I didn't say Macs were bad, you misread. I praised macs, but as for their other devices like mp3 players and the like, I do not. Why on earth do they have like 20+ variations of the same device? Worse is the fact that they are making you(lemmings) pay a premium for device which has comparable competition for less, what do defenders of that Apple say? They have no defense really aside from it looks cool. To drop hots**t on your Mac love, sorry but the one great thing about Macs was that it's OS was more stable and less prone to crashing. Compatibility? Get your head out of your ass, Windows is practically in every PC on earth. Studios preferred Apple's mac's to PC's as it was more closed system as opposed to windows much wider system that allowed greater amounts of software to be made for it. Also security of a lesser known system made it harder to hack Macs and also hackers could care less as what was the point of hacking something almost no one uses.
Of course the Ipad will sell a good bit, it's because of the lemming mentality. It's a nice Idea from Apple, but why the hell does it have to be that big? Non-upgradeable memory and again non-removable battery. 10hr battery life is stupid, especially if you are going after e-books, Kindle isn't pretty, but 1 week battery life s**ts on Ipad. What is with people and gaming on music devices? Unless you have wall outlets built into you, why bother? Some of these innovations are truly innovations, the have found innovative ways to get you(lemmings) to part with your hard earned money. Apple is the absolute kings of marketing people things they didn't know they wanted, until Apple said so.
No wait, this this does even less than the Iphone does....sorry. Couldn't think of anything yet revealed that this does better than the Iphone other have a big screen, lugging it's downsides with it. Heft, size, low resolution, in ability to hold this thing in a useful manner to play videogames. I can't wait to see jackasses tilting this 11 in device to play an accelerometer controlled game. Apple is selling this to a niche that they will create on the date this thing hits the streets. OK appleteers ready your wallets and plastic cards, time to hand over that money for new shiny Apple. Masters of the Redundant device, who else can sell you 32 gigs of memory for $150? On Apple can, phrase can sell an Eskimo ice comes to mind.
That's the most useless thing I've seen in years. Who in their right mind would ever get such a thing, when you can buy a decent mini laptop for less than half the price? The mini laptop would be about the same size and waaaaay more usable and portable.
Well I know that thing will be a financial success, because there's enough Apple fanboys who will buy it no matter how turd-y it is. I've already seen the defending going on in every tech forum there is.
"It's the future! It's brilliant! Apple did it again!" No, just no. That's an expensive piece of useless technology nobody needs for anything.
I think Apple have marketed this wrong. Why bang on about an idea that's been around for years when they have in fact managed to shrink Steve Jobs. Surely that's more innovative?
I think Apple have marketed this wrong. Why bang on about an idea that's been around for years when they have in fact managed to shrink Steve Jobs. Surely that's more innovative?
I'm not sure why Everyone's so surprised this turned out to be a piece of junk. Its not like apple has made anything that was of any real worth since the 1980s.
I'm not sure why Everyone's so surprised this turned out to be a piece of junk. Its not like apple has made anything that was of any real worth since the 1980s.
I was of the same opinion, but I eventually gave in and got an iPhone and it is a fantastic bit of kit. Has saved me buying other stuff that I was after too, like one of those Garmin running watches.
The difference there is that it's replacing my phone, but giving me loads of lovely additional bits too. This new-fangled hooziwotsit doesn't have the capability to replace anything I've already got, but doesn't add anything either.
Hmm. I think we need something between the iPad and the iPhone. Or maybe between the iPad and the MacBook. Actually, no, we need something between the MacBook and the iMac. Yeah, that's it, a kind of desktop machine but with a lame battery and more expensive RAM! Maybe a trackpad too.
I can't see who Apple are going to market this too. With the iPod & iPhone, the markets are clear. Walkman users and anyone with a phone.
This iSlab is going to ask people to start carrying something new with them. And its a big thing too, you can't just put it in your pocket.
If you have the space upon your person to carry this then chances are you have enough space to carry a laptop or a tablet PC. The person earlier who said women will love this clearly does not know women very well, It won't fit in a hand bag!
The reason iPod sold well was becuase it is better than the Walkman you have on you. The same can be said for the iPhone. But this iSlab is not better than what you carry on you, because we don't carry something like this on us.
I think Apple usually get their markets right these days, the iPhone and iPod are desirable and seen as a status symbol, like it or not, decrying people as lemmings for liking something that’s popular is a bit silly, especially when you’re point of them not having the best tech and so on as you’re average consumer won’t know the difference.
I’m sure there are cars out there that are cheaper than, and can out perform, Ferrari’s and the like, but people will buy into the style of a product, and Apple’s has been built into the public psyche with some masterfule marketing. That’s the way of life, style is more desirable to the masses than substance, this doesn’t make them idiots though and stating anything as such makes you an elitist snob, advertising and the desire to fit in with your peers affects you a lot more than you realise.
That said, however, this looks cumbersome and fugly. I cannot see anyone who has an iPhone thinking they’ll want one of these when an iPhone can do much of what this can, and some it can’t, this might be a lot slower but then a lot of people will take that and be able to fit it in your pocket.
No idea why loads of people are criticising the ipad. This is the future of casual internet usage. You'll all be eating your words when you've got two or three ipad like devices sat around the house (in 5 - 10 years). You'll mainly use it for reading papers, magazines, quick pop onto CVG and you know it!!!
Ok it is expensive but my God it is not even out yet. Laptops used to be really sh*t and rediculously expensive.
Embrace the changes and enjoy possible upcoming titles like an ipad gta chinatown type game.
No idea why loads of people are criticising the ipad. This is the future of casual internet usage. You'll all be eating your words when you've got two or three ipad like devices sat around the house (in 5 - 10 years). You'll mainly use it for reading papers, magazines, quick pop onto CVG and you know it!!!
Ok it is expensive but my God it is not even out yet. Laptops used to be really sh*t and rediculously expensive.
Embrace the changes and enjoy possible upcoming titles like an ipad gta chinatown type game.
Capiche
I’m sure it will sell well, and get better in future iterations, but as for reading papers and magazines, I think the actual print form will be dominant for a lot longer than people give it credit for as that never runs out of battery nor gives you eye strain.
I think Apple usually get their markets right these days, the iPhone and iPod are desirable and seen as a status symbol, like it or not, decrying people as lemmings for liking something that’s popular is a bit silly, especially when you’re point of them not having the best tech and so on as you’re average consumer won’t know the difference.
I’m sure there are cars out there that are cheaper than, and can out perform, Ferrari’s and the like, but people will buy into the style of a product, and Apple’s has been built into the public psyche with some masterfule marketing. That’s the way of life, style is more desirable to the masses than substance, this doesn’t make them idiots though and stating anything as such makes you an elitist snob, advertising and the desire to fit in with your peers affects you a lot more than you realise.
That said, however, this looks cumbersome and fugly. I cannot see anyone who has an iPhone thinking they’ll want one of these when an iPhone can do much of what this can, and some it can’t, this might be a lot slower but then a lot of people will take that and be able to fit it in your pocket.
See this is the problem some people have. Perhaps it shouldn't but it really annoys me that people will just go out and blindly buy things just because of the status. The porsche cayenne is a perfect example of this. It is a pile of utter sh!t but there are people that will buy it just due to the ststus they think it gives them (in fact they look like utter idiots to most people as they are broadcasting the fact that they have more money than sense). Ipod is another example (although not as extreme) there are a ton of music players out there that are cheaper and offer better sound quality yet many are not bothered that they got ripped off as long as they have the status symbol. Many people will buy this ipad without ever testing out other devices like other tablets or netbooks, even though the netbooks are cheaper and offer more functionality while also having much bigger storage, bigger screens and more powerful processors. It annoys me as I feel that if everyone bought the best (regardless of status appeal) then we would have much better technology faster and cheaper. As I say though perhaps I should not let it bother me so much.
I completely agree that this kind of thing is the way forward for internet use and media reading, but not like the iPad. Firstly, it needs to have a proper OS. So I can take anything from my computer and have it working. It needs a camera so I can Skype/video message/photograph and email etc. It needs expandability, including being able to replace the battery. If it's going to be realistically used as an e-reader it also needs some kind of e-ink hybrid screen, so my eyes don't die.
The concept is going to be huge, and I'm sure they will be commonplace in a few years, it would be perfect for eating breakfast with. Apple just designed a sloppy product that doesn't have any of the features that would make it a good buy.
No idea why loads of people are criticising the ipad. This is the future of casual internet usage. You'll all be eating your words when you've got two or three ipad like devices sat around the house (in 5 - 10 years). You'll mainly use it for reading papers, magazines, quick pop onto CVG and you know it!!!
Ok it is expensive but my God it is not even out yet. Laptops used to be really sh*t and rediculously expensive.
Embrace the changes and enjoy possible upcoming titles like an ipad gta chinatown type game.
Capiche
Yes but this is artificially expensive. It is not using any cutting edge tech like the early laptops did. Also have you been living in a cave for the last few years? You are aware that there are already great devices called netbooks out and they are cheaper and offer far greater flexibility and functionality than this overpriced device? As for reading books on this thing. I suggest you stay well away from that activity with the ipad if you value your eyesight. Get an e-ink display and have a far better reading experience with huge battery life to boot. can you imagine playing GTA with no buttons?
I'm not sure why Everyone's so surprised this turned out to be a piece of junk. Its not like apple has made anything that was of any real worth since the 1980s.
I was of the same opinion, but I eventually gave in and got an iPhone and it is a fantastic bit of kit. Has saved me buying other stuff that I was after too, like one of those Garmin running watches.
The difference there is that it's replacing my phone, but giving me loads of lovely additional bits too. This new-fangled hooziwotsit doesn't have the capability to replace anything I've already got, but doesn't add anything either.
There are better phones than the iphone. It can't even multitask for gods sake. Which is also something that this ipad is incapable of too!
I'm not sure about this. It won't perform better than a dedicated desktop PC, maybe only slightly better that a laptop. Too big to be a useful phone. Not powerful enough to challenge current gen gaming hardware. Sub-par internet browsing. It might be a nice media centre, but is that the sum of its capabilities? Hardly seems worth it.
So all Apple users/buyers are lemmings, yeah bravo for the constructive and compelling argument. As a Mac user for many years I can confirm that as both equipment and an operating system Macs still p**s all over PCs in terms of functionality, simplicity, compatibility and innovation. I use a PC for work use with Windows 7 and it does not come close to my iMac on all these fronts.
This ipad will sell like hotcakes whether the peasants like it or not, not sure about it myself it will have to have some pretty special features to overcome the use of the ipod touch. However one thing this is clearly not supposed to be (as some retards have tried to say) is a fully functioning laptop, Apple already have that area sewn up remember.
Please tell me what functionality macs have over pcs?
I'm not sure about this. It won't perform better than a dedicated desktop PC, maybe only slightly better that a laptop. Too big to be a useful phone. Not powerful enough to challenge current gen gaming hardware. Sub-par internet browsing. It might be a nice media centre, but is that the sum of its capabilities? Hardly seems worth it.
I can tell you for a fact that this will not perform better than a laptop (what makes you think that this is the case?). It is less powerful than the current netbooks! It can't even multitask!
That’s the thing though isn’t it, there may well be better alternatives but no one markets them, and most average consumers won’t know about the benefits of this that or the other, they know the brand and the adverts. That’s it, and you’re in the minority for being clued up about the market.
As for the having more money than sense thing, if they’ve got enough money to afford it then why not buy it? Though I do agree that those buying into the thing on credit or HP are bloody idiots, as in that case a cheaper affordable alternative should be the only option, as if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.
Apple know their markets, they know how to market their product as well, all their adverts don’t actually tell you anything about the product so consumers won’t known any different, and most wouldn’t care anyway. Most people will not feel ripped off, they’re happy with their product because Apple’s made them so, and who’s to tell them otherwise?
I know this makes me come across as some kind of apple fanboy, but I’m not at all, I certainly won’t be buying one of these (I’m getting a laptop, which with my phone will serve me better) but I can’t help but admire the way Apple have turned their products into a cultural lifestyle and a potent status symbols.
That’s the thing though isn’t it, there may well be better alternatives but no one markets them, and most average consumers won’t know about the benefits of this that or the other, they know the brand and the adverts. That’s it, and you’re in the minority for being clued up about the market.
As for the having more money than sense thing, if they’ve got enough money to afford it then why not buy it? Though I do agree that those buying into the thing on credit or HP are bloody idiots, as in that case a cheaper affordable alternative should be the only option, as if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.
Apple know their markets, they know how to market their product as well, all their adverts don’t actually tell you anything about the product so consumers won’t known any different, and most wouldn’t care anyway. Most people will not feel ripped off, they’re happy with their product because Apple’s made them so, and who’s to tell them otherwise?
I know this makes me come across as some kind of apple fanboy, but I’m not at all, I certainly won’t be buying one of these (I’m getting a laptop, which with my phone will serve me better) but I can’t help but admire the way Apple have turned their products into a cultural lifestyle and a potent status symbols.
I agree and I too admire them for their fantastic marketing. However it is the people that annoy me. I don't let companies tell me that I want their product, I go out there and find the best product for me all by myself. And you are right if someone has the money then they are perfectly entitled to buy what they like. It still annoys me though that that money is not going to more worthy products.
That’s the thing though isn’t it, there may well be better alternatives but no one markets them, and most average consumers won’t know about the benefits of this that or the other, they know the brand and the adverts. That’s it, and you’re in the minority for being clued up about the market.
As for the having more money than sense thing, if they’ve got enough money to afford it then why not buy it? Though I do agree that those buying into the thing on credit or HP are bloody idiots, as in that case a cheaper affordable alternative should be the only option, as if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.
Apple know their markets, they know how to market their product as well, all their adverts don’t actually tell you anything about the product so consumers won’t known any different, and most wouldn’t care anyway. Most people will not feel ripped off, they’re happy with their product because Apple’s made them so, and who’s to tell them otherwise?
I know this makes me come across as some kind of apple fanboy, but I’m not at all, I certainly won’t be buying one of these (I’m getting a laptop, which with my phone will serve me better) but I can’t help but admire the way Apple have turned their products into a cultural lifestyle and a potent status symbols.
I agree and I too admire them for their fantastic marketing. However it is the people that annoy me. I don't let companies tell me that I want their product, I go out there and find the best product for me all by myself. And you are right if someone has the money then they are perfectly entitled to buy what they like. It still annoys me though that that money is not going to more worthy products.
Well don’t let it annoy you, just be happy you have a better product! And let everyone else less informed than your good self enjoy their shiny little toys that make them happy, as that’s what it’s all about at the end of the day, init!
That’s the thing though isn’t it, there may well be better alternatives but no one markets them, and most average consumers won’t know about the benefits of this that or the other, they know the brand and the adverts. That’s it, and you’re in the minority for being clued up about the market.
As for the having more money than sense thing, if they’ve got enough money to afford it then why not buy it? Though I do agree that those buying into the thing on credit or HP are bloody idiots, as in that case a cheaper affordable alternative should be the only option, as if you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.
Apple know their markets, they know how to market their product as well, all their adverts don’t actually tell you anything about the product so consumers won’t known any different, and most wouldn’t care anyway. Most people will not feel ripped off, they’re happy with their product because Apple’s made them so, and who’s to tell them otherwise?
I know this makes me come across as some kind of apple fanboy, but I’m not at all, I certainly won’t be buying one of these (I’m getting a laptop, which with my phone will serve me better) but I can’t help but admire the way Apple have turned their products into a cultural lifestyle and a potent status symbols.
I agree and I too admire them for their fantastic marketing. However it is the people that annoy me. I don't let companies tell me that I want their product, I go out there and find the best product for me all by myself. And you are right if someone has the money then they are perfectly entitled to buy what they like. It still annoys me though that that money is not going to more worthy products.
Well don’t let it annoy you, just be happy you have a better product! And let everyone else less informed than your good self enjoy their shiny little toys that make them happy, as that’s what it’s all about at the end of the day, init!
I know, and I do let out a little smile everytime I am listening to my music with great quality for a cheaper price that those with white headphones. I just can't help getting annoyed by the whole thing.
I completely agree that this kind of thing is the way forward for internet use and media reading, but not like the iPad. Firstly, it needs to have a proper OS. So I can take anything from my computer and have it working. It needs a camera so I can Skype/video message/photograph and email etc. It needs expandability, including being able to replace the battery. If it's going to be realistically used as an e-reader it also needs some kind of e-ink hybrid screen, so my eyes don't die.
The concept is going to be huge, and I'm sure they will be commonplace in a few years, it would be perfect for eating breakfast with. Apple just designed a sloppy product that doesn't have any of the features that would make it a good buy.
Agreed on your first points for home use and yes there will potentially be a market for something like this to carry around the home at some point in the future, but it will need to integrate well with existing home systems - e.g. you'd be able to switch channels or play media on your TV or control your stereo and so on. I think it'll be a while before the technology is standardised enough for that to happen though. And it will also need to be a lot cheaper.
And in that context this definitely isn't an innovation: one of the larger players in portable computing came up with something similar designed for home use a while back and guess what: it sank without trace (mostly because the technology wasn't ready yet - e.g. very slow wireless connections etc).
Though I do have an iPod (Yes, I know I know I know) I couldn’t for one minute use the headphones they come with, they’re terrible, and I do wonder why people use them but then ignorance is bliss and all that!
I'm not sure about this. It won't perform better than a dedicated desktop PC, maybe only slightly better that a laptop. Too big to be a useful phone. Not powerful enough to challenge current gen gaming hardware. Sub-par internet browsing. It might be a nice media centre, but is that the sum of its capabilities? Hardly seems worth it.
I can tell you for a fact that this will not perform better than a laptop (what makes you think that this is the case?). It is less powerful than the current netbooks! It can't even multitask!
To be honest, I only put that it would maybe be more powerful than a laptop because when I was writng my post there were so many areas the iPad fell down in comparison to established tech I assumed there had to some area where it was actually useful, apparently this is not the case. After watching some footage, it just looks like an oversized iPhone, I really don't see the point of it short of fleecing the fanboys.
Well, well, its an oversized iphone, but not as nice looking, it wont really fit in a normal pocket and lets face it, surfing the web for long periods of time requires a keyboard, it will be fine for movies and such like, its lack of controls will limit the games for it, although point and click and rts will be good. but the price is again apple being apple, not got a clue
Must admit, it doesn't sound like much of an innovation to me.
Having said that, you have to be a bit curious as to why so many people within the industry are saying such good things about it - not just Apple themselves.
It's very unlikely to be something that I'd be rushing out to buy, but if it turns out well, has some good applications and a decent price point, you never know.
Must admit, it doesn't sound like much of an innovation to me.
Having said that, you have to be a bit curious as to why so many people within the industry are saying such good things about it - not just Apple themselves.
It's very unlikely to be something that I'd be rushing out to buy, but if it turns out well, has some good applications and a decent price point, you never know.
Worth keeping an eye on, that's for sure.
The media always goes crazy over anything apple. Just look at the iphone when that arrived! and it was missing most features normally found on phones!
I'm assuming most of you Apple bashers have never used OS X. It's an amazing operating system which is way more intuitive than Windows.
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
- It loaded the OS vastly quicker, by about 4 minutes. - It ran AVID faster and was far more stable. - Warcraft performed similar on both systems. - The OS never crashed where as the PC did regularly.
As for the ipad I won't be getting one but can understand it's appeal. It's clearly made for web browsing to be read as a magazine. It would be pretty cool to read CVG with whilst having a s**t for example. I can fully understand how an ipad would be preferable to a netbook for web browsing. Having said that if you gave me the option of an ipad or a Dell mini with OS X hacked on it I'd go for the Dell no contest.
The media always goes crazy over anything apple. Just look at the iphone when that arrived! and it was missing most features normally found on phones!
And yet 50 million people bought one....
Jon
Exactly!
Apples media and marketing machine is their real product. When you buy an apple product you are effectively buying into this machine. Their marketing is some of the best I have ever seen. They managed to get millions to buy a phone that had no video capability, no multi-tasking, a cheap ass chinese radio transmitter/reciever, poor battery life, no copy and paste and lock in to get a ring tone!
They will sell a ton of these ipads too with the same marketing machine doing to magic, even though it is a utterly pointless overpriced device.
I'm assuming most of you Apple bashers have never used OS X. It's an amazing operating system which is way more intuitive than Windows.
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
- It loaded the OS vastly quicker, by about 4 minutes. - It ran AVID faster and was far more stable. - Warcraft performed similar on both systems. - The OS never crashed where as the PC did regularly.
As for the ipad I won't be getting one but can understand it's appeal. It's clearly made for web browsing to be read as a magazine. It would be pretty cool to read CVG with whilst having a s**t for example. I can fully understand how an ipad would be preferable to a netbook for web browsing. Having said that if you gave me the option of an ipad or a Dell mini with OS X hacked on it I'd go for the Dell no contest.
I have actually used OSX and although it looks nice and pretty, there are not many features that make it particularly easier to use than Windows. Also you forget that most people use windows at work so are already familiar with it. I am not sure where this crashing fallacy comes from. I have not had a PC crash on me now for a long long time and contrary to popular opinion Macs do crash too. We have a load of them at work for our graphics department (no idea why they can't just use PCs as they only use Photoshop and illustrator). As for performance. I am currently running windows 7 on a netbook with 1GB ram and it is running aero just fine. It also runs photoshop, lightroom, illustrator etc. You are also confusing OS with machine, remember you could always run Linux on a pc too. One more thing. Every mac user I know has either removed OSX and installed windows or is dual booting windows. Windows is far more useful when you actually want to do stuff.
My netbook boots in around 1 min (if that) and my laptop seems even quicker. Your mate had a very sick pc or was running xp or vista.
As for the web browsing, why is this ipad better than a netbook? Typing this message for instance would be just horrible on a touch screen and the lack of flash seriously hampers your browsing experience. Also the lack of multitasking will mean you can't browse while doing some work etc.
i love the look of it, should be great for gamimg. that being said i'm just about to get my 3gs iphone so i'm not going to be waiting for this to drop.
i love the look of it, should be great for gamimg. that being said i'm just about to get my 3gs iphone so i'm not going to be waiting for this to drop.
I am not sure why so many people think it will be good for gameing. It will be as good as the iphone which is not very good at all. It is ok for small games to play at a bus stop etc but a finger touch screen is pretty useless for most games. Imagine trying to play a game like Super Street fighter 4 on this.
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
I'm with you on that one. But its a shame when people argue about PC vs Consoles, PC gamers never belive this argument!
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
I'm with you on that one. But its a shame when people argue about PC vs Consoles, PC gamers never belive this argument!
Yeah. "How can you compare 512MB to 4GB of RAM?!" and all that bollocks.
Because my Xbox isn't running f**king Norton...that's why!
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
I'm with you on that one. But its a shame when people argue about PC vs Consoles, PC gamers never belive this argument!
Yeah. "How can you compare 512MB to 4GB of RAM?!" and all that bollocks.
Because my Xbox isn't running f**king Norton...that's why!
Anyone that runs norton deserves to have a slow pc anyway!
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
I'm with you on that one. But its a shame when people argue about PC vs Consoles, PC gamers never belive this argument!
Yeah. "How can you compare 512MB to 4GB of RAM?!" and all that bollocks.
Because my Xbox isn't running f**king Norton...that's why!
Anyone that runs norton deserves to have a slow pc anyway!
I'm assuming most of you Apple bashers have never used OS X. It's an amazing operating system which is way more intuitive than Windows.
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
- It loaded the OS vastly quicker, by about 4 minutes. - It ran AVID faster and was far more stable. - Warcraft performed similar on both systems. - The OS never crashed where as the PC did regularly.
As for the ipad I won't be getting one but can understand it's appeal. It's clearly made for web browsing to be read as a magazine. It would be pretty cool to read CVG with whilst having a s**t for example. I can fully understand how an ipad would be preferable to a netbook for web browsing. Having said that if you gave me the option of an ipad or a Dell mini with OS X hacked on it I'd go for the Dell no contest.
I have actually used OSX and although it looks nice and pretty, there are not many features that make it particularly easier to use than Windows. Also you forget that most people use windows at work so are already familiar with it. I am not sure where this crashing fallacy comes from. I have not had a PC crash on me now for a long long time and contrary to popular opinion Macs do crash too. We have a load of them at work for our graphics department (no idea why they can't just use PCs as they only use Photoshop and illustrator). As for performance. I am currently running windows 7 on a netbook with 1GB ram and it is running aero just fine. It also runs photoshop, lightroom, illustrator etc. You are also confusing OS with machine, remember you could always run Linux on a pc too. One more thing. Every mac user I know has either removed OSX and installed windows or is dual booting windows. Windows is far more useful when you actually want to do stuff.
My netbook boots in around 1 min (if that) and my laptop seems even quicker. Your mate had a very sick pc or was running xp or vista.
As for the web browsing, why is this ipad better than a netbook? Typing this message for instance would be just horrible on a touch screen and the lack of flash seriously hampers your browsing experience. Also the lack of multitasking will mean you can't browse while doing some work etc.
I have used Macs for 9 years now and never once has the operating system crashed on me. Yes programs will crash occasionally but not OS X.
It seems to me that the general opinion on here is that all Mac owners are retarded sheep. Yes there is a new breed of Apple owner who have bought into a brand but that doesn't devalue from Macs as computers.
I am impressed with Windows 7 and can appreciate the effort Microsoft have put in to making a decent operating system. Having said that the pig that was Vista has already done the damage and many people I know crossed over to OS X.
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
I'm with you on that one. But its a shame when people argue about PC vs Consoles, PC gamers never belive this argument!
Yeah. "How can you compare 512MB to 4GB of RAM?!" and all that bollocks.
Because my Xbox isn't running f**king Norton...that's why!
Anyone that runs norton deserves to have a slow pc anyway!
You get my point, though...
Indeed. Consoles run more efficiently as they are designed to run games and also have very few processes running in background threads. Macs however are Supposed to be work computers and as such could always be running a load of background threads just like a pc. I imagine that a mac running norton will have the same effect as a pc running norton.
I'm assuming most of you Apple bashers have never used OS X. It's an amazing operating system which is way more intuitive than Windows.
Apple can build an operating system that only has to be compatible with a limited selection of hardware (Macs). Because the OS is optimized for the hardware you'll find that it's performance is outstanding beyond it's spec.
For example I had an old G4 with an 800mhz processor and 768 ram which at the time was 6 years old and my mate got a desktop Pc with a 2.5ghz processor and 2GB of ram. The Mac out performed the PC in every respect.
- It loaded the OS vastly quicker, by about 4 minutes. - It ran AVID faster and was far more stable. - Warcraft performed similar on both systems. - The OS never crashed where as the PC did regularly.
As for the ipad I won't be getting one but can understand it's appeal. It's clearly made for web browsing to be read as a magazine. It would be pretty cool to read CVG with whilst having a s**t for example. I can fully understand how an ipad would be preferable to a netbook for web browsing. Having said that if you gave me the option of an ipad or a Dell mini with OS X hacked on it I'd go for the Dell no contest.
I have actually used OSX and although it looks nice and pretty, there are not many features that make it particularly easier to use than Windows. Also you forget that most people use windows at work so are already familiar with it. I am not sure where this crashing fallacy comes from. I have not had a PC crash on me now for a long long time and contrary to popular opinion Macs do crash too. We have a load of them at work for our graphics department (no idea why they can't just use PCs as they only use Photoshop and illustrator). As for performance. I am currently running windows 7 on a netbook with 1GB ram and it is running aero just fine. It also runs photoshop, lightroom, illustrator etc. You are also confusing OS with machine, remember you could always run Linux on a pc too. One more thing. Every mac user I know has either removed OSX and installed windows or is dual booting windows. Windows is far more useful when you actually want to do stuff.
My netbook boots in around 1 min (if that) and my laptop seems even quicker. Your mate had a very sick pc or was running xp or vista.
As for the web browsing, why is this ipad better than a netbook? Typing this message for instance would be just horrible on a touch screen and the lack of flash seriously hampers your browsing experience. Also the lack of multitasking will mean you can't browse while doing some work etc.
I have used Macs for 9 years now and never once has the operating system crashed on me. Yes programs will crash occasionally but not OS X.
It seems to me that the general opinion on here is that all Mac owners are retarded sheep. Yes there is a new breed of Apple owner who have bought into a brand but that doesn't devalue from Macs as computers.
I am impressed with Windows 7 and can appreciate the effort Microsoft have put in to making a decent operating system. Having said that the pig that was Vista has already done the damage and many people I know crossed over to OS X.
The same can be said for windows. I have not had the OS crash on me since windows 98! Vista was not all that bad to be honest. It was power hungry and MS made a hash of the driver system but hey I know a load of people that are still running it with no problems. Win 7 is a far cry from vista though, especially on the power side of things.
It has been proven a few times that there are far more security flaws in Unix-based systems like Linux and OSX than Windows. The thing is, that with more than 90% of computers running Windows, it's always Windows that gets all the attention, and therefore a bad rep.
Yeah I resisted saying it. It's not true anyway my mate got a virus on his iMac that stopped him from clicking on anything and changed his desktop to a picture saying "you have been watching gay porn" lol.
It has been proven a few times that there are far more security flaws in Unix-based systems like Linux and OSX than Windows. The thing is, that with more than 90% of computers running Windows, it's always Windows that gets all the attention, and therefore a bad rep.
I know a number of people that have been running PCs with no antivirus for years and had no problems. Not that I would risk it though. I value my personal data.
Yeah I resisted saying it. It's not true anyway my mate got a virus on his iMac that stopped him from clicking on anything and changed his desktop to a picture saying "you have been watching gay porn" lol.
I have been using macs for about 15 years now, mainly because of the design work I do. i also use a PC sometimes and have a netbook which I can dual boot osx and XP from. I have to say that XP is pretty hopeless. Slow, confusing numerous virus scans for this and that before you can get it started it's just a pain. I hear windows 7 is better but that's what I heard about vista etc. I know people get used to operating systems and switching is always a learning curve but on reflection of using both OSX is far superior.
The ipad is a nice idea and i would have one replace my netbook but it just can't do quite enough. I want it to have the basic functions of a netbook. I wanted a stripped down version of osx not a boosted version of an iphone. I wanted a camera. I wanted a usb port to plug a dongle into. I wanted something more substantial than this. I would love to buy it but it's just not good enough. Roll on v2.
I also don't understand the people moaning about it's size. If you can be bothered to carry a laptop or net book and sit with that then you can be bothered to carry this. It's not a phone or a DS. It's something you have in our house for a quick read or internet browse which i fully endorse as a product line.
I have been using macs for about 15 years now, mainly because of the design work I do. i also use a PC sometimes and have a netbook which I can dual boot osx and XP from. I have to say that XP is pretty hopeless. Slow, confusing numerous virus scans for this and that before you can get it started it's just a pain. I hear windows 7 is better but that's what I heard about vista etc. I know people get used to operating systems and switching is always a learning curve but on reflection of using both OSX is far superior.
The ipad is a nice idea and i would have one replace my netbook but it just can't do quite enough. I want it to have the basic functions of a netbook. I wanted a stripped down version of osx not a boosted version of an iphone. I wanted a camera. I wanted a usb port to plug a dongle into. I wanted something more substantial than this. I would love to buy it but it's just not good enough. Roll on v2.
I also don't understand the people moaning about it's size. If you can be bothered to carry a laptop or net book and sit with that then you can be bothered to carry this. It's not a phone or a DS. It's something you have in our house for a quick read or internet browse which i fully endorse as a product line.
Did you know you can put OSX on a Dell mini. I'm thinking that's the best option for an ultra portable mac.
I'm using a samsung nc10 netbook to run osx from and do use cs3 Photoshop. Works ok. It's reasonable for adjusting the odd photo. Couldn't really do a days designing on it lol but why would you. I just hope v2 of the ipad is a bit more of a complete product.
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