Mass Effect 2 makes its predecessor look really simple. Whether you're eavesdropping on a pair of Krogans in the citadel, mining planets for resources from space, or outfitting your private deck with a fish tank and space hamster, almost every area in the game is improved upon and impressively presented.
It's as if BioWare compiled a big checklist of the first game's bad points, and scratched them off one by one. Rubbish vehicle sections, overwhelming inventory management and, yes, elevator load times have all been thrown in the bin. The result is a more refined, balanced and approachable game - arguably BioWare's best to date.
The sequel's events kick off a few years after the original title's conclusion, taking into account all the choices you made and people you killed/spared in the original game (if you've kept hold of your Mass Effect 1 save at least).
The spoiler-free version of the plot is that human colonies have started disappearing around the edges of space. Suspicious that the Reapers - the ancient, galaxy-culling machines - are behind the attacks, our man Sheppard joins up with the Cerberus organisation and its mysterious leader, 'The Illusive Man' (voiced by Martin Sheen), to investigate.
MASS APPEAL Unlike the original, Mass Effect 2 kicks off with a bang and is generally well-paced throughout. Much of the sequel revolves around Sheppard combing the galaxy to recruit an elite team to tackle the Reapers, which naturally leads to you solving each individual's problem before they hop onto your ship.
These missions are, for the most part, unique, interesting and, most of all, fantastically written. Though cinematic wonder Heavy Rain looms near on the horizon, Mass Effect 2 is arguably the closest to an interactive movie we've ever come.
BioWare's awesome conversation system is as impressive as ever and the choices you're presented with - and their consequences - are more apparent and liberally scattered than before.
Should you execute surrendered hostage takers or stick to your promise to let them live? Does a murderer deserve to die or go to trial? You'll be faced with both of these questions and more during the campaign and some are almost certain to have you pondering over your mouse or joypad.
What impresses most about Mass Effect 2's improvements, though, is not what BioWare's decided to add, but what it's decided to remove. Along with the aforementioned binned vehicle sections and endless elevator rides, the developer has smoothed down the game's rougher edges.
The very traditional inventory system from the first game has been trashed completely, and in its place are in-game weapon lockers and pre-mission squad loadouts.
This move alone could easily have alienated many fans of the first game, but on the contrary it creates focus and removes all distractions from what makes the series brilliant in the first place; its character, freedom of choice and awesome sci-fi combat - the latter of which is another area significantly upped from the original.
With refined skill trees and special abilities, plus far fewer weapons and less armour to fumble around with, Mass Effect 2's combat is a honed beast. Key to this - and this is yet another fix for one of the first game's negative bulletpoints - is the introduction of weapon ammunition, deposited on the floor in true shooter style by downed aggressors.
TO GOOD EFFECT In the first game's ammo-less setup you'd find yourself committed to a single weapon and dedicating your experience points to it. That meant that by the end of the game you'd sooner touch a splintery broom handle than try to use those guns you hadn't gifted any time to.
In the sequel, thanks to ammo management and the decision to axe weapon specialisation completely, you feel compelled to mix and match your guns.
This expectedly has a big impact on the fun factor of gun fights, and the fact that the actual shooting mechanics themselves - the cover system, weapon feedback and death animations - have been improved also helps hugely.
Another catalyst for improvement is the addition of heavy weapons, which not only up the pace of big battles (and create pretty explosions) but free up BioWare to make hard enemies even harder.
The appearance of a single, towering mech in Mass Effect 2 is now a set piece all to itself, taking the coordination of all three of your team members and lots of well-placed rockets to take it down - a contrast to Mass Effect 1.
The sequel has definitely benefited, then, from the trimming down of fat and shifting of focus to delivering more bang for your buck. But role-playing elements are still very much core to the experience - and there's a lot of them.
Mass Effect 2 is definitely a game that takes less effort than before to play and enjoy - you're left free to enjoy not only the shooty stuff but the beautiful universe and characters that BioWare's created - and it's outdone itself.
PLANET HOPPING The worlds you'll visit during Sheppard's mission are gorgeous, believable and always coherent with the stupidly-deep story book of creatures and characters the developer's created.
Without spoiling anything, the scenes and set pieces you'll encounter are more exciting, elaborate and thought provoking than anything in the first game.
You need only walk around the alien-filled Citadel space station to see that the environments are a shade above anything BioWare's done before; pedestrians seem to go about there business and you can overhear seemingly endless, individual conversations on every corner.
It should also be commended that the developer's managed to create a cast of interesting and likable characters we actually care about (even if the squadmate count, at 10, is approaching too many).
Often we found ourselves running around the deck of the Normandy just to hear our crew members' problems or have a chat. Interacting with the game's virtual cast is a really engrossing experience and again it's a joy to be able to project some of your personality onto the story.
This time your choices also come in the form of actions - basically random QTE sequences - that can have you shove someone away from gun fire, use your weapon to scare a hostage and more.
This adds a bit of drama to chatty scenes but we'd be lying if we said we hadn't accidentally shot someone in the face in a QTE-inspired outburst.
Space exploration has also been bolstered with the introduction of fuel stations and space mining on the galactic map.
Sheppard can now manually scan unexplored planets for resources using the right thumb stick and send down probes to collect it. This can then be used to upgrade weapons, armour and the Normandy itself in an on-board research system. This complements the game's less overbearing style wonderfully.
It could be argued that it takes a gamer of a certain level of patience to enjoy the pairing of launching grenades at mechs, and talking in detail to aliens about the weather. And Dragon Age is definitely the better game for fans of stats and loot.
For the most part BioWare's done well in marrying action and role-playing elements in proportioned - though there's certainly a lot of the latter in the game through dozens and dozens of side quests.
It's often apparent that story missions are simply repeating the same 'find this', 'kill these' objectives you've done already in previous scenarios, but each is done with such distinct plotting and on unique worlds that it doesn't detract from what's otherwise a gloriously crafted action-RPG - a true example of paying attention to fan criticism.
Mass Effect 2 has quality oozing from every facet of its makeup. If you're patient enough to hop from tactical combat to immersive role-playing without a blink, then you'll discover that Mass Effect 2 is a wonderfully engrossing quest that's deep yet suitably streamlined and incredibly cinematic.
"Dragon Age" was my personal GOTY 2009. By all appearances "ME2" will be my personal GOTY 2010. You are on a roll BioWare - don't ever change (except for being willing to scale back the DRM; that makes me adore you even more)!
Dear reviewer, I assume that at least a partial reason for your not giving Mass Effect 2 a perfect score or, put differently, for detracting points from its overall score, was that its RPG elements were not as satisfying or complete as those contained in Dragon Age: Origins. I also assume you have failed to realize that detracting points from the overall score of one game based upon an external relation to another game is a fallacious move. It is fallacious because it works on the assumption that Mass Effect 2 was constructed with Dragon Age in mind, that Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age, since they are both RPG action adventure games, must contain the same gameplay elements. But this is just false. Suppose that DAO was considered by many to be the best game ever created in its genre. Could it still be the case that ME2 deserves a 10? Absolutely. Whether or not DAO’s RPG elements are some of the best has nothing to do with Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 2 is not Dragon Age: Origins, and thus there is no reason to assume that it – Mass Effect 2 – need live up to DAO in any way. Mass Effect 2 has to live up to RPG/shooter elements in general, but not to any one specific game. No one game sets the standards for any other game, alike or not. All the RPG elements in Mass Effect 2 are superb. Different, perhaps, from Dragon Age, but superb nonetheless in their own right. If Mass Effect 2 deserves anything less than a 10, it ought to be because there is something lacking in Mass Effect 2, not because it is doesn’t meet Dragon Age Origin’s apparent criteria. The overall review score is thus inherently flawed.
I agree with you there mate, CVG gave the original Mass Effect 9 out of 10, so tht means only 3 points extra for addressing all the issues from the first game? What a joke, I'm sure Bioware will take great comfort in knowing all there hard work is worth a poxy 3 points, this reveiewer doesn't have a clue. 9.5 or 9.7 sounds about right from the other reviews I've read, I bet this guy didn't even reference the review of the first game, poor really poor. Not that it matters as this has and always will be a day 1 purchase for me.
C'mon guys, you're not seriusly bothered by a couple of fractions of a point are you. 9.3 is an excellent score; I can't wait for this. My only *minor* fear is regards the combat which I hope hasn't taken over the game. The balance was just right last time IMO. Can't see anything beating this as my perosnal GOTY, though!
C'mon guys, you're not seriusly bothered by a couple of fractions of a point are you. 9.3 is an excellent score; I can't wait for this. My only *minor* fear is regards the combat which I hope hasn't taken over the game. The balance was just right last time IMO. Can't see anything beating this as my perosnal GOTY, though!
Agreed. Who gives a crap about a few decimal points?! Personally, I can disregard the Dragon Age comparison as I have a dislike for its Medieval setting, but love Sci-Fi.
Some things never change, you will always get people that still don't understand that a review, and its score are nothing more than just the pure opinion of the person reviewing it...
I agree with you there mate, CVG gave the original Mass Effect 9 out of 10, so tht means only 3 points extra for addressing all the issues from the first game? What a joke, I'm sure Bioware will take great comfort in knowing all there hard work is worth a poxy 3 points, this reveiewer doesn't have a clue. 9.5 or 9.7 sounds about right from the other reviews I've read, I bet this guy didn't even reference the review of the first game, poor really poor. Not that it matters as this has and always will be a day 1 purchase for me.
How do you even know the person that reviewed the first game reviewed this one?
It’s a feckin score, it doesn’t matter, the conclusion is that it isn’t bobbins, which is good. Should you really be worried about the score that’s applied to a game you’re going to enjoy then I would suggest looking for others that fit your expectations more and then everyone is happy and no one else has to moan.
I’ve been playing the first one again in expectation, I was a saint in the first one and this time I’ve been a complete bastard, so I’ll be playing through the second at least twice, and it’s quite possible it’ll make me play through the first again.
I morn the mako though, though to help me grieve all the DLC I queued yesterday downloaded when I got in, hurrah for shop exclusive pre-order purchases that I didn’t pre-order with!
It’s a feckin score, it doesn’t matter, the conclusion is that it isn’t bobbins, which is good. Should you really be worried about the score that’s applied to a game you’re going to enjoy then I would suggest looking for others that fit your expectations more and then everyone is happy and no one else has to moan.
I’ve been playing the first one again in expectation, I was a saint in the first one and this time I’ve been a complete bastard, so I’ll be playing through the second at least twice, and it’s quite possible it’ll make me play through the first again.
I morn the mako though, though to help me grieve all the DLC I queued yesterday downloaded when I got in, hurrah for shop exclusive pre-order purchases that I didn’t pre-order with!
Ha Im doing the exact same on 2nd play right now. Also got all the free dlc yesterday. I cannae wait for this Friday.
It’s a feckin score, it doesn’t matter, the conclusion is that it isn’t bobbins, which is good. Should you really be worried about the score that’s applied to a game you’re going to enjoy then I would suggest looking for others that fit your expectations more and then everyone is happy and no one else has to moan.
I’ve been playing the first one again in expectation, I was a saint in the first one and this time I’ve been a complete bastard, so I’ll be playing through the second at least twice, and it’s quite possible it’ll make me play through the first again.
I morn the mako though, though to help me grieve all the DLC I queued yesterday downloaded when I got in, hurrah for shop exclusive pre-order purchases that I didn’t pre-order with!
Downloaded for me too, I just hope there isn't a sting in the tail.
Review scores don't stand the test of time, so it's not fair to expect that just because this only got 0.3 higher a score has any bearing on the original. Times change, we begin to expect more from games.
Otherwise all review scores from really old games like Asteroids would have to be rewritten because while in 1979 it might've earned a 90% score, these days it's dull and repetitive and pointless and would barely get a mention.
Accept the review for what it is - a judgement of how the reviewer feels about the game AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
sweet. I've got one question about it using the save data from the first. Since i started a new game plus will it still use my decisions from the orignial ir just my stats?
sweet. I've got one question about it using the save data from the first. Since i started a new game plus will it still use my decisions from the orignial ir just my stats?
Thats the same question i have. I took my original character through 2 play-throughs going Paragon and Renegade on both seperate plays and making different choices along the way. I've just left the citadel on my 3rd go with the same character. I've always used the same save file for them so what will happen when i try to load it up in ME2?
sweet. I've got one question about it using the save data from the first. Since i started a new game plus will it still use my decisions from the orignial ir just my stats?
Thats the same question i have. I took my original character through 2 play-throughs going Paragon and Renegade on both seperate plays and making different choices along the way. I've just left the citadel on my 3rd go with the same character. I've always used the same save file for them so what will happen when i try to load it up in ME2?
I believe that every time you finish the game (ME1), it creates a single saved character, ie. if you used the same character 3 times (carrying through stats et al to new game +) and therefore complete the game 3 times with said character, there will be 3 separate Shepherd files to carry over to ME2, up to a total of 12. That's how I understand it anyway though I'm not sure if my explanation makes much sense!
sweet. I've got one question about it using the save data from the first. Since i started a new game plus will it still use my decisions from the orignial ir just my stats?
Thats the same question i have. I took my original character through 2 play-throughs going Paragon and Renegade on both seperate plays and making different choices along the way. I've just left the citadel on my 3rd go with the same character. I've always used the same save file for them so what will happen when i try to load it up in ME2?
I believe that every time you finish the game (ME1), it creates a single saved character, ie. if you used the same character 3 times (carrying through stats et al to new game +) and therefore complete the game 3 times with said character, there will be 3 separate Shepherd files to carry over to ME2, up to a total of 12. That's how I understand it anyway though I'm not sure if my explanation makes much sense!
Nah, that's not how I understand it to work.
If you only have one Shepard, it'll only be the last game saved that carries over. Bear in mind the save also has to be after you've defeated Saren, if you've started again and saved it before the credits roll, it won't be available for import.
sweet. I've got one question about it using the save data from the first. Since i started a new game plus will it still use my decisions from the orignial ir just my stats?
Thats the same question i have. I took my original character through 2 play-throughs going Paragon and Renegade on both seperate plays and making different choices along the way. I've just left the citadel on my 3rd go with the same character. I've always used the same save file for them so what will happen when i try to load it up in ME2?
I believe that every time you finish the game (ME1), it creates a single saved character, ie. if you used the same character 3 times (carrying through stats et al to new game +) and therefore complete the game 3 times with said character, there will be 3 separate Shepherd files to carry over to ME2, up to a total of 12. That's how I understand it anyway though I'm not sure if my explanation makes much sense!
Nah, that's not how I understand it to work.
If you only have one Shepard, it'll only be the last game saved that carries over. Bear in mind the save also has to be after you've defeated Saren, if you've started again and saved it before the credits roll, it won't be available for import.
The only reason why I though it worked the way I stated was that whenever you choose New Game + in ME, you can choose any Shepherd you want; so even if you only created one character, if you complete the game 3 times with him/her all 3 are available as a completed character on the save file. Guess we'll see Friday anyway! This game is going to eat my life...
sweet. I've got one question about it using the save data from the first. Since i started a new game plus will it still use my decisions from the orignial ir just my stats?
Thats the same question i have. I took my original character through 2 play-throughs going Paragon and Renegade on both seperate plays and making different choices along the way. I've just left the citadel on my 3rd go with the same character. I've always used the same save file for them so what will happen when i try to load it up in ME2?
I believe that every time you finish the game (ME1), it creates a single saved character, ie. if you used the same character 3 times (carrying through stats et al to new game +) and therefore complete the game 3 times with said character, there will be 3 separate Shepherd files to carry over to ME2, up to a total of 12. That's how I understand it anyway though I'm not sure if my explanation makes much sense!
Nah, that's not how I understand it to work.
If you only have one Shepard, it'll only be the last game saved that carries over. Bear in mind the save also has to be after you've defeated Saren, if you've started again and saved it before the credits roll, it won't be available for import.
The only reason why I though it worked the way I stated was that whenever you choose New Game + in ME, you can choose any Shepherd you want; so even if you only created one character, if you complete the game 3 times with him/her all 3 are available as a completed character on the save file. Guess we'll see Friday anyway! This game is going to eat my life...
I have 2 Shepard save files both male (renegade) and female (paragon) but i'm gonna start again because I love a good character creation tweak!
I am very critical of the first Mass Effect, but Bioware seem to know what sort of game they're making this time around. If the RPG elements are deeper and the combat actually more robust then this could be closer to the experience I wanted first time out.
Judging from my ME2 experience, it would appear you HAVE to have started a 2nd campaign as your character in order for it to be transfered across. I had done ME1 with my Soldier 3 times, Adept once, and Engineer once, and it will only transfer across my 2nd playthrough as the Soldier. Maybe ME1 just doesn't save after the final credits, so you have to do it yourself by starting a new one up?
I had expected that it would allow me to choose both my 1st playthrough as the Soldier, and the 2nd one.... but it didn't.
I am very critical of the first Mass Effect, but Bioware seem to know what sort of game they're making this time around. If the RPG elements are deeper and the combat actually more robust then this could be closer to the experience I wanted first time out.
I bet it's short though.
Dont get your hopes up. I've only just got the game through the post, but have played for a few hours. I'd say the RPG elements are weaker, atleast in the traditional levelling up sense. Scanning planets and the upgrades thing is relatively deep, though. The combat is pretty rigid, and despite loving this game I'd actually say I preferred the combat from ME1. Something about the fighting in this game doesn't do it for me, from the rigid combat movement, to the dumbed down cod style health system, and the reduced amount of powers everyone has.
Review scores don't stand the test of time, so it's not fair to expect that just because this only got 0.3 higher a score has any bearing on the original. Times change, we begin to expect more from games.
Otherwise all review scores from really old games like Asteroids would have to be rewritten because while in 1979 it might've earned a 90% score, these days it's dull and repetitive and pointless and would barely get a mention.
Accept the review for what it is - a judgement of how the reviewer feels about the game AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
Well put and I couldn't agree more... I recently tried replaying FF7 and while the story is still epic the gameplay is terrible compared to what you'd expect to find now, it'd never score as highly now as it did originally... it scored will at the time because back then it was great.
It would keep dozens of people to keep changing old review scores to what they'd score in comparison to current games.
I'm convinced I'm the only gamer on the planet that didn't have any issues with Mass Effect. The inventory probably was overwhelming if you're very young, not particularly bright or organised but it worked perfectly. The vehicle sections for me were enjoyable. I only played these sections in-vehicle and really enjoyed some of the battles in them. And the lift sections didn't bother or frustrate me once. I wonder if these issues didn't bother me because the biggest overriding issue I had with the game is something I know will never change... that I'll always have to play it in a s**tty third person perspective.
I still have no idea why people think the combat was weak in Mass Effect. For me it's enemy AI was far superior than most FPSs. They demonstrated a sense of self preservation rarely seen in the best of shooters. Admittedly team mate AI could get stuck behind doors or on door frames, but it was easily resolved. Most other games have ten times the amount of problems or issues ME had, so apart from the view perspective it was for all intents and purposes practically near perfect to me.
Dear reviewer, I assume that at least a partial reason for your not giving Mass Effect 2 a perfect score or, put differently, for detracting points from its overall score, was that its RPG elements were not as satisfying or complete as those contained in Dragon Age: Origins. I also assume you have failed to realize that detracting points from the overall score of one game based upon an external relation to another game is a fallacious move. It is fallacious because it works on the assumption that Mass Effect 2 was constructed with Dragon Age in mind, that Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age, since they are both RPG action adventure games, must contain the same gameplay elements. But this is just false. Suppose that DAO was considered by many to be the best game ever created in its genre. Could it still be the case that ME2 deserves a 10? Absolutely. Whether or not DAO’s RPG elements are some of the best has nothing to do with Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 2 is not Dragon Age: Origins, and thus there is no reason to assume that it – Mass Effect 2 – need live up to DAO in any way. Mass Effect 2 has to live up to RPG/shooter elements in general, but not to any one specific game. No one game sets the standards for any other game, alike or not. All the RPG elements in Mass Effect 2 are superb. Different, perhaps, from Dragon Age, but superb nonetheless in their own right. If Mass Effect 2 deserves anything less than a 10, it ought to be because there is something lacking in Mass Effect 2, not because it is doesn’t meet Dragon Age Origin’s apparent criteria. The overall review score is thus inherently flawed.
It is true that you shouldn't really detract points as you stated but what I can see from all of this is that it is really low on the traditional rpg elements when comparing it to what western rpg's usually are. I can easily see many people thinking it is a traditional rpg set in space and becoming disappointed once they get into it and this is what I think the reviewer is getting at. It would be weird to call a game a platformer when you dont do much platforming.
I could see that there could be confusion abt the .3 increase but you have to consider a couple of things; Games advance over the years and a game that got a 9 ten years ago will not be as good as a game that gets a 9 now but at the time it could very well be deserving of that score. Secondly, ME was not a 9 game, dont get me wrong I loved it to death but it should never have been a 9 as there were so many problems which really lowered the overall experience dramatically and again I blame the mentality of reviewers and readers alike who still think anything below an 8.5 is rubbish.
Finally, no game is worth a 10, at least nothing that has been released so far especially if there are still the odd system crash, wonky animations and still pretty long load times.
Anyways GAME has shipped my limited edition today and I hope some fortunate screw up allows me to get it early
Bums, my Amazon order’s projected delivery date is the 1st of Feb, oh well, no Mass Effect 2 for me this weekend, just a big Mako love in on Mass Effect while I say goodbye to the old girl, booster thrusting off into the ether, at least it’ll give me a chance to finish the first again though…maybe even play through as a tech one as well, not done that yet…
Bums, my Amazon order’s projected delivery date is the 1st of Feb, oh well, no Mass Effect 2 for me this weekend, just a big Mako love in on Mass Effect while I say goodbye to the old girl, booster thrusting off into the ether, at least it’ll give me a chance to finish the first again though…maybe even play through as a tech one as well, not done that yet…
I wouldn't place too much stock in Amazon's projected dates, I've had some say a month later than release day, then I'd get a email stating it's in the post.
A while ago, as I got it on the pre-order price of £29.99, so hopefully that’s just a blanket date on there to cover any possible delays.
I’m pretty sure all those downloads yesterday will be fine as well, the item description says nothing about needing a code to unlock (which are usually done on the marketplace anyway) so I’m not sure how they can stop them being used on the console now, unless they release new versions and send out a patch to block them…doubt that though.
I must try and play the 1st one again and complete it only got 2 hours into it and got completely lost thats was when the game 1st came out because the 2nd one looks really good.
I'm convinced I'm the only gamer on the planet that didn't have any issues with Mass Effect. The inventory probably was overwhelming if you're very young, not particularly bright or organised but it worked perfectly. The vehicle sections for me were enjoyable. I only played these sections in-vehicle and really enjoyed some of the battles in them. And the lift sections didn't bother or frustrate me once. I wonder if these issues didn't bother me because the biggest overriding issue I had with the game is something I know will never change... that I'll always have to play it in a s**tty third person perspective.
I still have no idea why people think the combat was weak in Mass Effect. For me it's enemy AI was far superior than most FPSs. They demonstrated a sense of self preservation rarely seen in the best of shooters. Admittedly team mate AI could get stuck behind doors or on door frames, but it was easily resolved. Most other games have ten times the amount of problems or issues ME had, so apart from the view perspective it was for all intents and purposes practically near perfect to me.
You are not the only gamer with that point of view. Like you I thought "ME1" was a fantastic game: I liked the news blurbs and inter-party chats during elevator rides though sometimes due to my own fault riding the exact same elevator twice in a row because I misjudged where I was going could get a bit annoying - nothing major though. I enjoyed the Mako rides - it made for some epic mountaineering rides! The combat was solid for a third person over-the-shoulder perspective and the AI didn't strike me as being poor.
The one thing I do agree with others about was the inventory system. Was it a complete mess? No; it worked but it was a laborious experience from half-way through the game until the end. The only half-saving grace was that you could turn items into gel instantly on the spot and thus get something out of it, though not money. Since there was no lack of money by the later stages of the game "ME1" gets away with it but I am very pleased to hear they have overhauled the inventory. There is simply no good reason why having "SuperDuperFireBulletHandgunScorpionX" x 15 needs to take up fifteen inventory slots instead of stacking them in one inventory slot unless the developer wants to go for realism in which case having 120 inventory slots that can fit anything from heavy armor and assault rifles to grenades and medpacks is hardly realistic either, IMO.
Playing Mass Effect 1 so I have a save to load up when I get Mass Effect 2 tomorrow. Man those buggy sections in the first game are a pain in the butt. But it' still the best RPG I've played this gen. The story and characters are so good.
Hey, Bioware! If you're still listening, how about allocating more money and development resources to "Dragon Age 2"? I mean, there's lots of map left, right? And without complaining about my favorite game, I would still make the observation that the graphics in DAO are not nearly of the same standard as those of Mass Effect. C'mon, humor us sword and sorcery types!!
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