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Miss_Wacy
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lookin forward to this, would of been funny if mw 2 came out this year instead and both were battleing
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heatuk10
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 12:10 pm |
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This is only a good thing for this genre of game! maybe now Call of Duty will think about charging silly prices for there games now aswell as this I can only see the games getting better and better as there trying to out do each other! |
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Dajmin
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 12:20 pm |
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While I'm not a big fan of the normal MoH games, the fact that Dice are on board with this means it could be amazing. BF2 was great, BF:V was (IMO) underrated, BF:BC has taken a little bit of a tangent on the original idea but is still a solid game.
I'm interested to see where they go with it.
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richm74
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 12:32 pm |
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Agreed, some healthy competition would be very welcome.
As long as they do not take the gamers for granted (yeah i'm looking at you Kotick) then we should come out on top with some truly awesome games.
However, judging by the recent handling of the community, IW/Acti will just continue to operate in their own happy little gilded dream world. It's only until they start getting a backlash from the 360 market will they sit up and take notice (a la the EA backlash of a couple of years ago).
Well with the recent attitude that EA have been showing, i'm willing to cut them a little slack and see how 2010 pans out. Lets just hope they've learnt their lesson that you cannot take your consumer base for granted.
Christ I never thought i'd ever type that about EA!!! And have a disdain for Activision! Gotta be the first sign of the apocolypse.
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Jensonjet
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 12:36 pm |
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Ok, so it seems every article written about this game has to reference Modern Warfare, great... not bored with that already.
Is it possible for 'professional' journalist that write about games, or the developers who are supposed to be selling their game to actually give us more details about the thing than continually reference that it's similar to or different to another? I expect the usual pathetic "looks like MW to me" type comments from forum posters, but how about a slightly more professional approach by the press and developers.
Imagine how dull and pathetic movie-reporting would be if every time a film came out the director constantly referenced similar genre movies or if the movie press constantly had to reference the similiarities of one movie to another. Is the games industry still so young and amateur that there's no way of talking about a game without saying "it's like halo" or "just like Modern Warfare".
Maybe it's me, maybe I should accept that the gaming press is full of young and no doubt pretty inexperienced writers that have to constantly reference other games. Maybe this is done because it's assumed gamers are so brainlessly dumb the only way we could possibly understand the concept of another game is to reference a similar one from the last year or so! |
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heatuk10
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 12:48 pm |
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| Quote: | Ok, so it seems every article written about this game has to reference Modern Warfare, great... not bored with that already.
Is it possible for 'professional' journalist that write about games, or the developers who are supposed to be selling their game to actually give us more details about the thing than continually reference that it's similar to or different to another? I expect the usual pathetic "looks like MW to me" type comments from forum posters, but how about a slightly more professional approach by the press and developers.
Imagine how dull and pathetic movie-reporting would be if every time a film came out the director constantly referenced similar genre movies or if the movie press constantly had to reference the similiarities of one movie to another. Is the games industry still so young and amateur that there's no way of talking about a game without saying "it's like halo" or "just like Modern Warfare".
Maybe it's me, maybe I should accept that the gaming press is full of young and no doubt pretty inexperienced writers that have to constantly reference other games. Maybe this is done because it's assumed gamers are so brainlessly dumb the only way we could possibly understand the concept of another game is to reference a similar one from the last year or so! |
I know what your saying here. But for someone to give a good review of a game they would have to put some serious game time in to give it justice!
I think alot of game journalists only get to see a working demo or a video compilation of the game! So maybe they can't say much else really!? |
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flash501
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 1:09 pm |
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| Jensonjet wrote: | Ok, so it seems every article written about this game has to reference Modern Warfare, great... not bored with that already.
Is it possible for 'professional' journalist that write about games, or the developers who are supposed to be selling their game to actually give us more details about the thing than continually reference that it's similar to or different to another? I expect the usual pathetic "looks like MW to me" type comments from forum posters, but how about a slightly more professional approach by the press and developers.
Imagine how dull and pathetic movie-reporting would be if every time a film came out the director constantly referenced similar genre movies or if the movie press constantly had to reference the similiarities of one movie to another. Is the games industry still so young and amateur that there's no way of talking about a game without saying "it's like halo" or "just like Modern Warfare".
Maybe it's me, maybe I should accept that the gaming press is full of young and no doubt pretty inexperienced writers that have to constantly reference other games. Maybe this is done because it's assumed gamers are so brainlessly dumb the only way we could possibly understand the concept of another game is to reference a similar one from the last year or so! |
Do you not think you're over reacting a bit there?. Both games have practically the same history, of course they are going to be compared to each other at some stage. Are you telling me that when a new movie comes out it's never ever compared to another movie?.
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dangermou5e
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 1:09 pm |
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| Dajmin wrote: | While I'm not a big fan of the normal MoH games, the fact that Dice are on board with this means it could be amazing. BF2 was great, BF:V was (IMO) underrated, BF:BC has taken a little bit of a tangent on the original idea but is still a solid game.
I'm interested to see where they go with it. |
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Tobal
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 1:17 pm |
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well the promo trailers for this look really goood, really really good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czDu97cMSIY
finally FPS' are moving in the direction they should. great graphics and looks far more engaging. well done MOH team, cant wait to see more! |
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Dajmin
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 1:20 pm |
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| dangermou5e wrote: | | Nothing better then flying your chopper with ride of the valkyries blasting out the radio |
I was a big fan of grabbing a gunship and playing Nowhere to Run 
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richm74
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 2:36 pm |
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| Dajmin wrote: | | dangermou5e wrote: | | Nothing better then flying your chopper with ride of the valkyries blasting out the radio |
I was a big fan of grabbing a gunship and playing Nowhere to Run |
Gotta agree with both of you. In a Huey, packed with your buddies, hanging out of the door with 'Paint it Black' blaring, flying 20ft above the Mekong River, then landing in a paddy field with tracers zipping about and a couple of mates laying waste to the tree line with the Cobra.
Priceless!
Lets hope Acti give Treyarch some rope and have some fun with the next CoD. but i'm not holding my breath.
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svd_grasshopper
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 2:45 pm |
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been playing my mates copy of MW2 through last few days...
the constant linear feeling of being pushed through its set peices is just dire.
any shooter that takes a different approach will be welcome. bad company was brilliant.
MW2 was like an interactive michael bay movie. |
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SavageEvil
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 2:57 pm |
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Hope the production values and visuals go up, MW 2 looks a lot better than this, after watching that trailer. Hopefully it plays fairly well and we get big rooms a'la Socom. I'm bored with puny maps and frenetic game play. |
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altitude2k
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 3:09 pm |
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| svd_grasshopper wrote: | been playing my mates copy of MW2 through last few days...
the constant linear feeling of being pushed through its set peices is just dire.
any shooter that takes a different approach will be welcome. bad company was brilliant.
MW2 was like an interactive michael bay movie. |
'Interactive' is a bit generous, isn't it? 
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Jensonjet
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 3:13 pm |
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flash501
I'm not sure what you mean about both games having the same history. I'm sure there are examples of movies being compared to others by the press, but I think it's rare. In that industry we all know there are different genres, so a new romantic comedy doesn't need to reference the latest one to be released. A new sci-fi action movie doesn't need to reference the last big movie of that genre. It's not unheard of to read of references other movies, but with videogames it's the absolute norm. You'd get the impression that describing a first person shooter set roughly in a modern day era, with the gamer playing an elite soldier just couldn't be explained without saying "it's just like Modern Warfare".
I may be completely wrong, but I'm convinced the gaming community is made up of as many gaming savvy enthusiasts as the movie watching community is of savvy film watchers. And equally people who read about games certainly know the subject well enough to not need treating like incapable halfwits!
When describing a movie like Wall-E for example, do you think the movie press felt the need to explain the main character was a bit like R2D2? Or when the Batman movie came out the press had to reference the Spiderman movie assuming people might not know what an action movie based on a comic book character is like.
We know full well that if a game were to use the game-mechanic of a recharging shield we'd be told "like in Halo or Modern Warfare". The games industry rarely does something so out of the ordinary it needs these simplistic references.
Do you see where I'm coming from? It's either an insult to the intelligence of gamers, or pretty weak writing. I was only saying that gamers aren't actually as dumb as the writing often appears to suggest. Maybe you're right, and without reference to Modern Warfare nobody would understand what the new Medal of Honour game is. Perhaps "a first person modern day military shooter" is a description beyond internet-reading gamers comprehension. I happen to think not. |
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Nick33
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:22 pm |
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Bad Company was crap, lets not beat around the bush here. Modern warfare has always outscored Bad Company, and always will because it's pretty crap...
And as for this lame attempt to steal away Modern warfare players, it's going to take more than putting warfare in the title. Game will suck, just like most Medal of honour games. |
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slick loose
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:22 pm |
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CBA to read that ^ BUT I think the gist is that they are completely different and shouldn't be compared. To me that's like not comparing FIFA to PES.
Lets face it, MoH has seen what success has bought COD:MW and they want a piece. Is that a bad thing? Depends how it turns out but I think the MoH games have past there sell-by-date but would loved to be proved wrong.
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svd_grasshopper
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:32 pm |
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| Nick33 wrote: | Bad Company was crap, lets not beat around the bush here. Modern warfare has always outscored Bad Company, and always will because it's pretty crap...
And as for this lame attempt to steal away Modern warfare players, it's going to take more than putting warfare in the title. Game will suck, just like most Medal of honour games. |
MW is predetermined rollercoster ride for lemmings.
theres a reason its the biggest selling game of all time...
BC is class. maybe it doesnt have the shiny graphics to ignite an interest in your stupid magpie brain, but its the better game. |
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altitude2k
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:35 pm |
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| svd_grasshopper wrote: | | Nick33 wrote: | Bad Company was crap, lets not beat around the bush here. Modern warfare has always outscored Bad Company, and always will because it's pretty crap...
And as for this lame attempt to steal away Modern warfare players, it's going to take more than putting warfare in the title. Game will suck, just like most Medal of honour games. |
MW is predetermined rollercoster ride for lemmings.
theres a reason its the biggest selling game of all time...
BC is class. maybe it doesnt have the shiny graphics to ignite an interest in your stupid magpie brain, but its the better game. |
I never did have a go at BC, which I really should have done given my love of all the other BF games. What was the multiplayer like? Same sort of thing as standard BF multiplayer - large scale combat, vehicles etc?
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bazzatuk
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:37 pm |
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| slick loose wrote: | CBA to read that ^ BUT I think the gist is that they are completely different and shouldn't be compared. To me that's like not comparing FIFA to PES.
Lets face it, MoH has seen what success has bought COD:MW and they want a piece. Is that a bad thing? Depends how it turns out but I think the MoH games have past there sell-by-date but would loved to be proved wrong. |
I think you are wrong. I think the Call of Duty series had run it's course in the WWII theatre of war and a backlash was imminent so IW went the modern route and we saw COD4 as the result, huge and successful game. End of story.
The Medal of Honour games also ran their course and Airborne tried to introduce some new mechanics to that game with the parachutes etc. but ultimately it felt like another WWII shooter. I think it's commendable that EA are trying to do something different and after watching the trailer for this believe they might very well pull it off.
A month ago I had never heard of it, now I am very interested to see if this delivers the game MW2 should have been. I know a lot of you believe MW2 to be the holy grail of gaming, but in reality the campaign is bad and nothing new, while the multiplayer is an expanded COD4 with more perks, more imbalance and more pandering to the casual player. Tell me a power weapon in the game that needs months of practice to perfect, there isn't. Once you get the power weapons you let rip and kill everyone in sight with ease. |
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svd_grasshopper
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:43 pm |
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its hectic yet at the same time expansive, a big open map. but the vehicles but everyone within reaching distance.
tactics play a big part in the game. with enemies in the air and destructible buildings.
its a brilliant multiplayer to get into. much less throw-away than COD's. |
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altitude2k
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:44 pm |
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| svd_grasshopper wrote: | its hectic yet at the same time expansive, a big open map. but the vehicles but everyone within reaching distance.
tactics play a big part in the game. with enemies in the air and destructible buildings.
its a brilliant multiplayer to get into. much less throw-away than COD's. |
Comparable to BF1943, would you say (on the multiplayer side of things)?
I've been really getting into BF1943 at the moment, after being hesitant about there being a drop from the PC version to only 24 players, but it's very well balanced and just as epic in scale as BF2 on the PC.
If the BC multiplayer is as good then I'll likely pick it up, or go straight to BC2.
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svd_grasshopper
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:50 pm |
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a lot less claustrophobic. plus the atmosphere is much better. something not right with playing an FPS in the baking sun.
the forrest type levels are much better. well grittier. |
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altitude2k
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 4:57 pm |
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| svd_grasshopper wrote: | a lot less claustrophobic. plus the atmosphere is much better. something not right with playing an FPS in the baking sun.
the forrest type levels are much better. well grittier. |
Sounds more along the lines of BF2 and BF2142 (good thing). Will check it out.
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voodoo341
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| Posted: 12 Jan 10 5:37 pm |
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| richm74 wrote: |
Gotta agree with both of you. In a Huey, packed with your buddies, hanging out of the door with 'Paint it Black' blaring, flying 20ft above the Mekong River, then landing in a paddy field with tracers zipping about and a couple of mates laying waste to the tree line with the Cobra.
Priceless!
Lets hope Acti give Treyarch some rope and have some fun with the next CoD. but i'm not holding my breath. |
If you like your choppers  you're going to love BC2. |
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