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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 12:04 am Reply with quote

well yes i probably could work. they'll even be vehicles in it. but could the setting work? i'm not so sure. they are all in district 9 unless you do something half life one-esk
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 12:12 am Reply with quote

Watched this for the 1st time last night and loved it. wouldnt have been half as good set in the states. The South African accent cracks me up (fookin sly prawns) lol
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 12:37 am Reply with quote

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Watched this for the 1st time last night and loved it. wouldnt have been half as good set in the states. The South African accent cracks me up (fookin sly prawns) lol


Same as that, I got it on blu-ray and I have to say the DTS-HD sound is outstanding. You can hear the fooks twice as clearly. Smile
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 12:56 am Reply with quote

"'Allo? It's the sweety man..." Laughing

Best film of last year I think- everything about it was superb. I do wish the Halo movie was made- but I can't say I'm disappointed with District 9.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 7:37 am Reply with quote

I'm surprised he didn't actually have an opinion about why videogames based on movies don't work. I'm sure he has some very strong views, but chose not to express them. I agree with him that money rather than a geniune love of the characters or story seem to be the biggest motivation.

I'm convinced that for videogames, certainly ones based on movies, to improve further that they need to helmed by movie directors. A good movie director has the skills required to craft an adventure, to tell a story, which is ultimately the aim of most games. The movie industry is full of very skilled storytelling craftsmen. The games industry isn't!

The game developer is like the special effects departments in the film industry. As important a department that it can be, you wouldn't want the FX guys to write and direct a movie. Games are starting to attract more skilled musicians and actors, and that's already improved games. But the fundamental storytelling skills, those of the writers and directors are still generally missing.

I loved District 9. I think the director has made a lot of fans with that film, and I'm sure many of us will keep an eye on his future work. I really wish though that people like him, skilled directors, storytellers who've also grown up with videogames would actually make games too. For me they're the most natural person to create and oversee a videogame. They have all the skills to control a variety of teams and departments with a goal to telling a story and entertaining.

The majority of people who currently oversee videogames feel like promoted programmers. I've no doubt they're skilled in the technical or graphic side of the industry but it's these people who are responsible for the cliche, shallow characters that fill our games. They're the ones responsible for the poor voice-acting or cheesy music. They're the ones who allow ridiculous or unbelievable story lines or dull game mechanics into our videogames.

I've no doubt if the games industry was given District 9 to make into a game it would be as bad as we can imagine. But if the director was asked to make the game, to use the people involved in the movie, and use a game developer as he would a special effects department, it would be a completely different story.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 7:43 am Reply with quote

A District 9 game could work, but it would have to be an RPG-style with action elements, maybe along the lines of Mass Effect.

"I think I crepped my pents!"

I agree, best film of 2009. And I pray we see the return of Christopher Johnson one day...maybe 3 years?
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 7:53 am Reply with quote

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I've no doubt if the games industry was given District 9 to make into a game it would be as bad as we can imagine. But if the director was asked to make the game, to use the people involved in the movie, and use a game developer as he would a special effects department, it would be a completely different story.


I wouldn't be so sure. James Cameron had a big involvement in Avatar, and look how well that turned out. Special effects aren't exactly a mystery to him, either.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 9:50 am Reply with quote

yes but James Cameron by and large makes shite movies that are saved by their effects. Pretty much what happened with both film and game versions of avatar.

District 9 could work as a game, but it'd definately be very half life esq.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 10:01 am Reply with quote

a district 9 game would be crap, as they would probably get someone like EA or activision to publish it, and some company like ubisoft to develop it. it wouldnt work. the film, tho, is one of the only films i have ever seen which i could call flawless
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 10:07 am Reply with quote

WHERESMYMONKEY wrote:
yes but James Cameron by and large makes shite movies that are saved by their effects. Pretty much what happened with both film and game versions of avatar.


Even if you don't like Avatar or Titanic......Terminator? T2? Aliens? The Abyss? TRUE LIES?!?! Shocked

Anyways, Avatar was fantastic, regardless of the effects - just not as gritty or real as District 9 felt.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 10:13 am Reply with quote

altitude2k wrote:
WHERESMYMONKEY wrote:
yes but James Cameron by and large makes shite movies that are saved by their effects. Pretty much what happened with both film and game versions of avatar.


Even if you don't like Avatar or Titanic......Terminator? T2? Aliens? Shocked

Anyways, Avatar was fantastic, regardless of the effects - just not as gritty or real as District 9 felt.


I'm with altitude on this one monkey. Even though Titanic is whack (I'm seeing Avatar on the 19th), those previous films are definitely some of the best movies of all time.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 10:14 am Reply with quote

Black Mantis wrote:
altitude2k wrote:
WHERESMYMONKEY wrote:
yes but James Cameron by and large makes shite movies that are saved by their effects. Pretty much what happened with both film and game versions of avatar.


Even if you don't like Avatar or Titanic......Terminator? T2? Aliens? Shocked

Anyways, Avatar was fantastic, regardless of the effects - just not as gritty or real as District 9 felt.


I'm with altitude on this one monkey. Even though Titanic is whack (I'm seeing Avatar on the 19th), those previous films are definitely some of the best movies of all time.


I added The Abyss and True Lies to that list as well Wink
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 10:40 am Reply with quote

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Black Mantis wrote:
altitude2k wrote:
WHERESMYMONKEY wrote:
yes but James Cameron by and large makes shite movies that are saved by their effects. Pretty much what happened with both film and game versions of avatar.


Even if you don't like Avatar or Titanic......Terminator? T2? Aliens? Shocked

Anyways, Avatar was fantastic, regardless of the effects - just not as gritty or real as District 9 felt.


I'm with altitude on this one monkey. Even though Titanic is whack (I'm seeing Avatar on the 19th), those previous films are definitely some of the best movies of all time.


I added The Abyss and True Lies to that list as well Wink


The Abyss I can agree with, not so much True Lies, although I did enjoy it when I first saw it. Smile
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 10:46 am Reply with quote

Black Mantis wrote:
altitude2k wrote:
Black Mantis wrote:
altitude2k wrote:
WHERESMYMONKEY wrote:
yes but James Cameron by and large makes shite movies that are saved by their effects. Pretty much what happened with both film and game versions of avatar.


Even if you don't like Avatar or Titanic......Terminator? T2? Aliens? Shocked

Anyways, Avatar was fantastic, regardless of the effects - just not as gritty or real as District 9 felt.


I'm with altitude on this one monkey. Even though Titanic is whack (I'm seeing Avatar on the 19th), those previous films are definitely some of the best movies of all time.


I added The Abyss and True Lies to that list as well Wink


The Abyss I can agree with, not so much True Lies, although I did enjoy it when I first saw it. Smile


Awww True Lies is amazing, such a great action movie. Arnie chasing a guy on motorbike with a horse. Or Arnie flying a harrier, which he can because, you know, he's a secret agent!
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 11:12 am Reply with quote

The first shots I saw of D9 I immediately thought of Halflife 2. When explaining the look of the movie to friends I would mention that.

D9 was one of my movies of the year. Sharlto Copley was excellent in it and it was his first movie too. He was funny and at other times, you just had to feel sorry for him getting s**t on time and time again. He was kind of a Gordon Freeman like character in how he was dropped right into the mixer and had to fight his way through all the obstacles that were put in front of him. The right man in the wrong place Smile
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 11:22 am Reply with quote

Didnt Cameron also write First Blood part 2? Although the final script was altered, He still gets writing credits for it at the end.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 11:51 am Reply with quote

kimoak wrote:
The first shots I saw of D9 I immediately thought of Halflife 2. When explaining the look of the movie to friends I would mention that.

D9 was one of my movies of the year. Sharlto Copley was excellent in it and it was his first movie too. He was funny and at other times, you just had to feel sorry for him getting s**t on time and time again. He was kind of a Gordon Freeman like character in how he was dropped right into the mixer and had to fight his way through all the obstacles that were put in front of him. The right man in the wrong place Smile


I loved Copley's Wikus. He was loveable, ditestable, pathetic and hilarious all in the same movie. Loved it.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 1:36 pm Reply with quote

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Jensonjet wrote:
I've no doubt if the games industry was given District 9 to make into a game it would be as bad as we can imagine. But if the director was asked to make the game, to use the people involved in the movie, and use a game developer as he would a special effects department, it would be a completely different story.


I wouldn't be so sure. James Cameron had a big involvement in Avatar, and look how well that turned out. Special effects aren't exactly a mystery to him, either.


James Cameron isn't a gamer, and I think that's the issue. I know he had some involvement in the game and made as much information available to the developers as possible, but that's not what I was suggesting. I don't think any of the current established directors would be much use as none of them are true gamers or grown up in this culture. I've read that Spielberg has shown a passing interesting and says he has played games and has or is slightly involved. Future directors who grow up playing games are people I'm talking about.

You can only imagine how amazing games based on the movies of George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron or Ridley Scott would be if these guys were younger, grew up on games and actually cared to make games. Instead we have games made by people enthusiastic about their movies or characters but they don't possess the skills or artistry to really do the games much justice.

As has been mentioned movie-based games are always about making money. I accept that's the ultimate goal of all games, but there's often more care or passion involved in an original title than a movie tie-in.

In theory there's no logic behind why an original sci-fi based game should be better than one based on a sci-fi movie. But when you compare the work done by the games industry to that of the work of the movie industry it's clear the games industry in terms of writing, creativity and story-telling craftsmanship is still way behind it's counterpart. It will change, but I don't think the current established movie directors or games producers are the right people to do this.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 2:05 pm Reply with quote

Peter Jackson's apparently a bit of a gamer which was one of the reasons he was getting involved with the Halo movie.

Anyway, he hand-picked Michel Ancel to develop the King Kong game after he was so impressed with the way Ancel and his team developed the characters and story in Beyond Good and Evil.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 2:49 pm Reply with quote

A management game putting you in a role similar to Wikus could work.
How the player treats the Prawns would reflect on them which ties in with the film thematically.
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PostPosted: 8 Jan 10 3:07 pm Reply with quote

Vampyre wrote:
Peter Jackson's apparently a bit of a gamer which was one of the reasons he was getting involved with the Halo movie.

Anyway, he hand-picked Michel Ancel to develop the King Kong game after he was so impressed with the way Ancel and his team developed the characters and story in Beyond Good and Evil.


And more will come in future. The videogame/movie tie-in issue will be resolved in the same way comic-book movies have in recent years. There are more directors around today that grew up on comics and love comic book characters than there ever have been. Obviously the advance in effects has also been useful. And so now we're seeing more comic-book based movies than ever before, and the majority are of fairly good quality, at least compared to decades past. Games are still in their infancy compared to other entertainment mediums.
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