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Jensonjet
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 9:44 am Reply with quote

I know the original has some extremely hardcore fans and I understand any criticism of the sequel based purely on previews and journalists articles seems futile, but I'm a little disappointed already. First off, probably like everyone who played Bioshock I think it looked beautiful. The setting and design was very original for a videogame. I liked the customisation available and the upgrading system. The voice-acting, game-engine, sights and sounds were all very good.

Where the game completely fell apart for me was in the combat. As it was effectively impossible to die because of being transported to the life-pod-things, there wasn't any sense of doom or fright as I never actually felt in peril. I also didn't find the combat particularly exciting or enjoyable in so far as most of the enemy moved so fast, and more often than not just rushed you without much care for self-preservation. Because of the annoyance of the combat system I literally spent the majority of the game using the spanner. Yes I died a few times, but I always came back of course. Using the spanner for the majority of the game also had the advantage of saving my ammo and credits for purchasing more for later in the game when it came in handy to speed up a fight or take down a more difficult enemy.

So my criticism with the sequel is identical to that of Modern Warfare 2 insofar as had the original been twice as long the sequel would simply have been the second part. I guess this argument could be used for many sequels, but with so much originality in the first game I expected that creativity to extend to the sequel too.

In daydreaming about what Bioshock 2 could have been I had these ideas. I actually thought the game could have been based on the Irish fella who helped us along with in the original. With an established character it could have been fun and interesting to learn more about him and learn his motives behind the story of the first game. To differentiate the game from the original I imagined how the game could start on land, then lead to a short time on a ship, before sending us below the sea to Rapture. From there we'd see Rapture in all it's glory, populated and thriving. I also had the idea that to mix things up a little perhaps your role, your job could change through the course of the game. Perhaps one section could involve a small submarine, another would justify moving around Rapture and seeing many elements that made up life in the underwater city. The game would have had elements of GTA/Mass Effect/Oblivion before leading to the downfall and collapse of Rapture.

Instead it seems we've ended up with typical sequel, using the exact same game mechanics... lone hero, out to kill everything with everything out to kill us. Collect stuff so that the killing equipment improves with the difficult of those that we need to kill. Perhaps I'm completely wrong and all people want are slightly different adversaries and maps in a sequel. I had hoped with the popularity, guaranteed sales, and more importantly, profits made from the original we'd have ended up with something that could literally blow anything else out of the water (pun intended).
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 9:55 am Reply with quote

s**t Jenson, can you give me a synopsis of all that crap you've wrote and save me precious minutes of my life.
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 10:25 am Reply with quote

FiltyMonkey wrote:
s**t Jenson, can you give me a synopsis of all that crap you've wrote and save me precious minutes of my life.


Laughing

Does anyone actually read his posts? I know I don't.
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 10:52 am Reply with quote

I can type, and I have opinions and this is a forum where people discuss thoughts and ideas if they choose. If spending a minute or two of reading a message is too time consuming or difficult, by all means move along. I certainly don't care to give a synopsis or care to discuss games with people who struggle with or don't care to read a few paragraphs.
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 10:56 am Reply with quote

Jensonjet wrote:
I can type, and I have opinions and this is a forum where people discuss thoughts and ideas if they choose. If spending a minute or two of reading a message is too time consuming or difficult, by all means move along. I certainly don't care to give a synopsis or care to discuss games with people who struggle with or don't care to read a few paragraphs.


Sorry Jenson, I couldn't be bothered to read that either. Could you shorten it a bit?
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 10:57 am Reply with quote

Jensonjet wrote:
I can type, and I have opinions and this is a forum where people discuss thoughts and ideas if they choose. If spending a minute or two of reading a message is too time consuming or difficult, by all means move along. I certainly don't care to give a synopsis or care to discuss games with people who struggle with or don't care to read a few paragraphs.


The thing is that I reckon I'd agree with a lot of what you're saying, but the quantity of text just makes it unappatising, to say the least. Trim it down a touch and you'd probably get more of a response.
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 10:58 am Reply with quote

FiltyMonkey wrote:
Jensonjet wrote:
I can type, and I have opinions and this is a forum where people discuss thoughts and ideas if they choose. If spending a minute or two of reading a message is too time consuming or difficult, by all means move along. I certainly don't care to give a synopsis or care to discuss games with people who struggle with or don't care to read a few paragraphs.


Sorry Jenson, I couldn't be bothered to read that either. Could you shorten it a bit?


I'll do it for you:

"F*ck you".

I think that pretty much covers it.
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 11:01 am Reply with quote

altitude2k wrote:
FiltyMonkey wrote:
Jensonjet wrote:
I can type, and I have opinions and this is a forum where people discuss thoughts and ideas if they choose. If spending a minute or two of reading a message is too time consuming or difficult, by all means move along. I certainly don't care to give a synopsis or care to discuss games with people who struggle with or don't care to read a few paragraphs.


Sorry Jenson, I couldn't be bothered to read that either. Could you shorten it a bit?


I'll do it for you:

"F*ck you".

I think that pretty much covers it.


Ahh, at last, someone who 'gets it'.
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 1:28 pm Reply with quote

This game comes out a week after Mass Effect 2. Bioshock 2 R.I.P Sad
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 3:02 pm Reply with quote

YouGuysRock7 wrote:
This game comes out a week after Mass Effect 2. Bioshock 2 R.I.P Sad

I've saved up money for both, Very Happy plus AvP following a couple weeks after too. Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 5 Jan 10 3:25 pm Reply with quote

YCshinobi wrote:
YouGuysRock7 wrote:
This game comes out a week after Mass Effect 2. Bioshock 2 R.I.P Sad

I've saved up money for both, Very Happy plus AvP following a couple weeks after too. Very Happy Very Happy


I didn't know Bioshock2 was coming out so soon. Shocked

Time to complete the first now!
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PostPosted: 6 Jan 10 5:59 pm Reply with quote

Jenson, did you play through the entire Bioshock game? There is a specific detail about that "Irish fella" that would have thrown off his inclusion in the sequel, or prequel for that matter.

HE DIDN'T F**KING EXIST. How can you criticize a game that hasn't even come out yet based on arguments against the first game (developed by a different studio, mind you, so comparisons should be limited, yet they are fantastic) with only a half-assed attempt at completion and utter ignorance of the plot extent of your background.

No matter how well worded your point appears, your apparent lack of understanding of the plot you are so haughtily critiquing renders any point you make completely moot and opinions irrelevant.

That said, this is a "forum where people discuss thoughts and ideas if they choose", so by all means, continue with your pointless drivel. Good Day Very Happy
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