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Halo Reach "THE biggest title of 2010"

Microsoft bigs up its 2010 lineup
Halo Reach will be "THE biggest title of 2010", Microsoft's said in a statement released today.

The Bungie shooter is the prong of Xbox 360's Christmas attack this year, the other sides of the spear being Fable III and whatever it decides to release with Project Natal.

"2010 will deliver our biggest line-up ever of exclusive blockbuster releases," the platform holder said in a statement.

"Kicking off the first-half of the year with back-to-back Xbox 360 exclusives like Splinter Cell Conviction, Crackdown 2, Mass Effect 2, and Alan Wake. And the first content packs for 'Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2' from Activision will be available this Spring, exclusively first on Xbox 360."

Earlier today Microsoft also confirmed that its big Project Natal launch will be happening at Christmas.

We don't think we've seen quite enough of Halo Reach - or 2010's full line-up for that matter - to start calling it 'THE' game of 2010, but you can read what we do know in our Halo Reach details roundup.

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After ODST I think I've finally had enough of Halo games.
funkyjack on 7 Jan '10
GT5 is bigger news this year.

despite his claim, yet another halo aint bigger than the first (and probably last) GT of this gen.
svd_grasshopper on 7 Jan '10
GT5 is bigger news this year.

despite his claim, yet another halo aint bigger than the first (and probably) last GT of this gen.

Bold claims grasshopper. I suppose we shall just have to wait and see.
StonecoldMC on 7 Jan '10
Well there's a lot of Xbox 360s in the UK, they sold the most software last year and Halo is Microsoft's biggest IP. Hmmm...

Sad but true this game will sell an awful lot while other great games get overlooked. Bit like MW2 did this year. I bought MW2 so I'm to blame partially, but at least I bought the other great games. Granted they were on PS3 and I don't have a 360...

(That's not saying this won't be a good game before I get a massive backlash of comments)
wrightandrewjame on 7 Jan '10
Stone Colds rite,dont quiet listen when companys brag ab the own games (MS pros at it) but ye it could be but this year looks intense so lets just see.
Forge88 on 7 Jan '10
GT5 is a contender, no doubt about it. But I suspect it will fall down to Reach and the next CoD game. They'll all sell well, whether they will be great games is more important.

I have no doubts that Reach will be epic. Very Happy
Black Mantis on 7 Jan '10
GT5 is bigger news this year.

despite his claim, yet another halo aint bigger than the first (and probably last) GT of this gen.

Dream on fool!

There's only one title that will be THE most wanted and anticipated game this year, will sell s**tloads and it doesn't have shiny cars or sterile gameplay!! Laughing
Tonyb on 7 Jan '10
GT5 is a lot bigger than Halo.

I got bored the Halo series after Halo 3.
wildhook2 on 7 Jan '10
Im pretty sure that Heavy Rain: The Origami Killer is a bigger title than Halo Reach. It has 3 extra words in it....
That said, as much as i have hated the last 3 Halo games, a decent squad based shooter that got rid of dual wielding and went back to the main mechanics of the original halo would be great...however the likelihood of that is beyond nil.
jazzy_p on 7 Jan '10
GT5 is bigger news this year.

despite his claim, yet another halo aint bigger than the first (and probably) last GT of this gen.

Bold claims grasshopper. I suppose we shall just have to wait and see.

im not talking strictly sales here...

the first GT of this new HD generation - 5 years in the making and much delayed - is a bigger deal than yet another halo this gen.

whats that 3 or 4 halos already on 360?

they have milked the teats off it, no wonder bungie are doing one. they must be sick.
svd_grasshopper on 7 Jan '10
By the end of ODST I was quite sick of the Halo games, although I will probably end up buying Reach because of all the hype.
Anyway I'm more looking foward to Mass Effect 2 Very Happy
Mental on 7 Jan '10
The difference between racers and shooters is that you see one racer advert, you've seen them all. There's very little you can do to dramatasise a pure racer. The fact that there's a story to Reach means there's plenty of room for varied marketing - something MS will put into overload.

GT5 will sell very well, but I doubt we'll hear too much about it. Whereas every man, woman and child is going to be aware of Halo. In that respect, whether it sells better or not it is still likely to be the biggest title this year based on exposure and awareness.

Based on worldwide sales, though, GT5 is likely to sell more I reckon, purely because every person in Japan will own at least 3 copies by the end of the year.
altitude2k on 7 Jan '10
The difference between racers and shooters is that you see one racer advert, you've seen them all. There's very little you can do to dramatasise a pure racer. The fact that there's a story to Reach means there's plenty of room for varied marketing - something MS will put into overload.

GT5 will sell very well, but I doubt we'll hear too much about it. Whereas every man, woman and child is going to be aware of Halo. In that respect, whether it sells better or not it is still likely to be the biggest title this year based on exposure and awareness.

Based on worldwide sales, though, GT5 is likely to sell more I reckon, purely because every person in Japan will own at least 3 copies by the end of the year.

I think Sony should tap into the popularity of Top Gear, maybe do a special episode with some of those 3 screened rigs to show off the game and compare it to real life. Although I'm pretty sure that would come across as an advert and the BBC can't do that!
Black Mantis on 7 Jan '10
My penis is HUGE!
Mr S0L0 D0L0 on 7 Jan '10
The biggest game of the year will inevitably be the next Call of Duty (although I wish it wouldn't be). Although Halo Reach will still doubtlessly be in the top three best-sellers of the year. Wierdly, though, I don't see it selling systems. Surely every Halo fan bought a 360 in 2007 anyway?

My prediction for top 5 sellers in 2010 (Globally)

1: Call of Duty 7 (or whatever)
2: Halo Reach
3: Gran Turismo 5
4: Zelda Wii
5: Final Fantasy XIII
lordirongut on 7 Jan '10
Sorry peeps how can ye compare a shooter to a racer.Yes GT5 is going to be the next gen acer we wanted but it does nothing for shooter.Ok in Halo u may have Warthog Racers lol but yeno what i mean.Its like comparing Forza to Uncharted 2 and sayin ones better than the other but how can you compare. U should comparing it to games like Resistance 3,MAG and COD 7 and possibly Killzone 3 which will be out this year or early 2011. U can moan all ye like oh Halo better than all of them that maybe the case but its better to compare to them than GT5.
Forge88 on 7 Jan '10
GT5 is bigger news this year.

despite his claim, yet another halo aint bigger than the first (and probably) last GT of this gen.

Bold claims grasshopper. I suppose we shall just have to wait and see.

im not talking strictly sales here...

the first GT of this new HD generation - 5 years in the making and much delayed - is a bigger deal than yet another halo this gen.

whats that 3 or 4 halos already on 360?

they have milked the teats off it, no wonder bungie are doing one. they must be sick.

If Bungie are bored, imagine how Polyphonic must feel - they've been doing nothing but GT for about 15 years!

Not sure why Halo and games like that get called for milking, what Final Fantasy are we on now?? Even CoD doesn't get the same levels of s**t - and that is a yearly update!

I really enjoyed Halo 3 and ODST (not played Wars) but I'm not a massive fan, but then I don't know anyone personally who is hyped for GT5 (or were for Forza 3). GT5 will sell s**tloads though, but they haven't got the market share they had for 3 annd 4.

If MS hype Reach enough ("if", who am I kidding!), it wouldn't surprise me to see if shift Nintendo like numbers, especially in the US.
ricflair on 7 Jan '10
What are you talking about milking a franchise?

There have been 5 Call of Duty games out on the 360 this generation and by the time Halo Reach comes out it will be 6.

That's milking it.

Halo multiplayer is still the most balanced gaming experience you can play on a console. You actually need skill to kill people, not some perk system to boost your abilities.
bazzatuk on 7 Jan '10
GT5 is bigger news this year.

despite his claim, yet another halo aint bigger than the first (and probably) last GT of this gen.

Bold claims grasshopper. I suppose we shall just have to wait and see.

im not talking strictly sales here...

the first GT of this new HD generation - 5 years in the making and much delayed - is a bigger deal than yet another halo this gen.

whats that 3 or 4 halos already on 360?

they have milked the teats off it, no wonder bungie are doing one. they must be sick.

2 Halo's from Bungie and 1 from Ensemble (RTS) I wouldnt call that milking it, how many Uncharted's Ratchets or Motorstorms will see see this gen 3 or 4?

Halo getting milked is just like every other succesful franchise out there. A Game every 2 or so years to satisfy the Fans needs, its what we want.

On topic for GT5, yes it will be a great Game and I reckon it will be Sonys biggest seller this year but I dont see it doing the numbers it used to, the installbase just isnt there yet. It will be a great game though.

See how easy that was, i only own a 360 but heres me bigging up GT5 or Heavy Rain or GOW3, its not difficult unless you make it so.
StonecoldMC on 7 Jan '10
Zzzzzzzz I got bored of Halo after the 2nd. And ODST was a lame over priced and short expansion pack. Having said that, Microsoft could sell s**t in a bag if it had Halo written on it.
Squall5005 on 7 Jan '10
What are you talking about milking a franchise?

There have been 5 Call of Duty games out on the 360 this generation and by the time Halo Reach comes out it will be 6.

That's milking it.

Halo multiplayer is still the most balanced gaming experience you can play on a console. You actually need skill to kill people, not some perk system to boost your abilities.

I'd keep that down, as Reach is going to have perks-style system, apparently.
altitude2k on 7 Jan '10
Sorry peeps how can ye compare a shooter to a racer.Yes GT5 is going to be the next gen acer we wanted but it does nothing for shooter.Ok in Halo u may have Warthog Racers lol but yeno what i mean.Its like comparing Forza to Uncharted 2 and sayin ones better than the other but how can you compare. U should comparing it to games like Resistance 3,MAG and COD 7 and possibly Killzone 3 which will be out this year or early 2011. U can moan all ye like oh Halo better than all of them that maybe the case but its better to compare to them than GT5.

perhaps you are unaware of the headline quote made by a microsoft top D. who proclaimed - "halo reach will be bigger than GT5"

but if you are talking big guns halo is microsofts and GT is sonys.
svd_grasshopper on 7 Jan '10
Zzzzzzzz I got bored of Halo after the 2nd. And ODST was a lame over priced and short expansion pack. Having said that, Microsoft could sell s**t in a bag if it had Halo written on it.

If you got bored after the second then why did you buy ODST? I presume you bought it or borrowed and played all of it otherwise how could you make that statement.
altitude2k on 7 Jan '10
Who honestly gives a f**k about sales? so what if Halo ODST, or GT5, becomes the best selling game of 2010. Numbers don't mean s**t.
krilles99 on 7 Jan '10
If Bungie are bored, imagine how Polyphonic must feel - they've been doing nothing but GT for about 15 years!

Not sure why Halo and games like that get called for milking, what Final Fantasy are we on now?? Even CoD doesn't get the same levels of s**t - and that is a yearly update!

I really enjoyed Halo 3 and ODST (not played Wars) but I'm not a massive fan, but then I don't know anyone personally who is hyped for GT5 (or were for Forza 3). GT5 will sell s**tloads though, but they haven't got the market share they had for 3 annd 4.

If MS hype Reach enough ("if", who am I kidding!), it wouldn't surprise me to see if shift Nintendo like numbers, especially in the US.

PD can do what they want. they arent bound. their passion is racing and cars.

MS contracted bungie for a certain amount of halo games this gen.

they must have felt chained. its probably why they are leaving MS. no doubt they would want nothing but more contracted halos off them otherwise.

PD are happy to develop GT... at their own pace. no pressure.
svd_grasshopper on 7 Jan '10
Probably true. However, I am personally more excited about GT5 this year, with it being the first iteration of this generation.

Saying that, I reckon GT5 will be a big system pusher this year and that Sony will market it more than any previous PS3 game.

It'll certainly be very close between the two.

Just more corporate chest beating to warm the c**kles.
Mark240473 on 7 Jan '10
Probably true. However, I am personally more excited about GT5 this year, with it being the first iteration of this generation.

Saying that, I reckon GT5 will be a big system pusher this year and that Sony will market it more than any previous PS3 game.

It'll certainly be very close between the two.

Just more corporate chest beating to warm the c**kles.

It would be difficult for them to market it less!
altitude2k on 7 Jan '10
ODST dented some of the Halo lustre for me, but then again it was obvious that it was an expansion pack sold off at full retail value.

It would have been a bit more fondly remembered if it was just released as DLC methinks. You guys have to remember that a relatively small team was tinkering around on this while a much bigger team has been working on Reach.

As a fan of Halo 3's multiplayer I look forward to a true sequel.
ledickolas on 7 Jan '10
The difference between racers and shooters is that you see one racer advert, you've seen them all. There's very little you can do to dramatasise a pure racer. The fact that there's a story to Reach means there's plenty of room for varied marketing - something MS will put into overload.

GT5 will sell very well, but I doubt we'll hear too much about it. Whereas every man, woman and child is going to be aware of Halo. In that respect, whether it sells better or not it is still likely to be the biggest title this year based on exposure and awareness.

Based on worldwide sales, though, GT5 is likely to sell more I reckon, purely because every person in Japan will own at least 3 copies by the end of the year.

I think Sony should tap into the popularity of Top Gear, maybe do a special episode with some of those 3 screened rigs to show off the game and compare it to real life. Although I'm pretty sure that would come across as an advert and the BBC can't do that!

Well believe it or not, Jeremy Clarkson is something of a 'gamer' as he has professed his love for Gran Turismo and Modern Warfare in the past.

What Sony need to do is bloody advertise GT5 to the levels of MS's ad campaigns.

Won't be cheap but this game could really shift some consoles as unlike Halo Reach, it is the first title of a major franchise on the console.

I know a couple of lads waiting for GT5 until they invest in a PS3.
sweatyBallacks? on 7 Jan '10
hahahaha. i'd say zelda wii, but that's just me.
Sinthetic on 7 Jan '10
The GT franchise is far bigger than Halo...

Furthermore, I would argue that GT is also one of the most popular racers ever on any platform.

Halo on the other hand pales somewhat when you start looking at all the FPS games on the PC.

Sure, there are a fair number of racing sims on the solitaire machine but these are more niche interest games as compared to for example Battlefield 2 or any of the other big FPS titles...
PS3_fannyboy on 7 Jan '10
Don't care if it only sells 5 copies- I love the Halo universe so I'll be there on day one. Very Happy
MrPirtniw on 7 Jan '10
Probably true. However, I am personally more excited about GT5 this year, with it being the first iteration of this generation.

Saying that, I reckon GT5 will be a big system pusher this year and that Sony will market it more than any previous PS3 game.

It'll certainly be very close between the two.

Just more corporate chest beating to warm the c**kles.

It would be difficult for them to market it less!

GT Prologue wasn't advertised at all and still managed to sell around 4 million units.

Underestimate GT5 at your peril - with or without a marketing campaign.
Mark240473 on 7 Jan '10
The GT franchise is far bigger than Halo...

Furthermore, I would argue that GT is also one of the most popular racers ever on any platform.

Halo on the other hand pales somewhat when you start looking at all the FPS games on the PC.

Sure, there are a fair number of racing sims on the solitaire machine but these are more niche interest games as compared to for example Battlefield 2 or any of the other big FPS titles...

Talking out of your anal orifice yet again are we little-bwoy!

GT is a boring as f**k simulator that sells because it has pretty graphics and now "pretty dents ohh and some rain on the shiny windscreen...he he!!

Halo on the other hand is pure unadulterated gaming nirvana and fun which you'd know if you took your thumb out of your bottom and actually played it, fool!
Tonyb on 7 Jan '10
Even for Halo fans this wont be THE biggest title of this year. ODST was pretty shocking and Reach will no doubt be the same.
I think its maybe time to move on from Halo and play some cool games instead.
fresh191 on 7 Jan '10
here we go again....yawn.

less of the hype,ms.

i'm quite looking forward to 'reach' but there's other games that are further up on my list of must have titles this year.

mass effect 2 and FFXIII spring to mind while mario galaxy 2 can't turn up soon enough but,for me,the no.1 title i have my eye on this year is zelda for the wii.

i'm expecting something special,nintendo have worked on it for over 3 years now.

can't wait.
ste hicky on 7 Jan '10
hahahaha. i'd say zelda wii, but that's just me.
Wink
ste hicky on 7 Jan '10
Don't care if it only sells 5 copies - I love the Halo universe so I'll be there on day one. Very Happy

Fair enough, but stop playing the neutral gamer, lol. We all know you occupy your weekends with master chief cosplay! Razz
PS3_fannyboy on 7 Jan '10
Probably true. However, I am personally more excited about GT5 this year, with it being the first iteration of this generation.

Saying that, I reckon GT5 will be a big system pusher this year and that Sony will market it more than any previous PS3 game.

It'll certainly be very close between the two.

Just more corporate chest beating to warm the c**kles.

It would be difficult for them to market it less!

GT Prologue wasn't advertised at all and still managed to sell around 4 million units.

Underestimate GT5 at your peril - with or without a marketing campaign.

Oh I have no doubt it will sell. My point was that Sony have been utterly sh*te at marketing ANY of their games, apart from maybe Singstar or suchlike. I can't believe how shocking or spbottom the advert for UC2 was - it deserved a hell of a lot better, and would have sold a lot more copies than it did.
altitude2k on 7 Jan '10
Embarassed You know... too much.
MrPirtniw on 7 Jan '10
Well, if you're a sad bastard it's the biggest title.
Wozzakl on 7 Jan '10
If Bungie are bored, imagine how Polyphonic must feel - they've been doing nothing but GT for about 15 years!

Not sure why Halo and games like that get called for milking, what Final Fantasy are we on now?? Even CoD doesn't get the same levels of s**t - and that is a yearly update!

I really enjoyed Halo 3 and ODST (not played Wars) but I'm not a massive fan, but then I don't know anyone personally who is hyped for GT5 (or were for Forza 3). GT5 will sell s**tloads though, but they haven't got the market share they had for 3 annd 4.

If MS hype Reach enough ("if", who am I kidding!), it wouldn't surprise me to see if shift Nintendo like numbers, especially in the US.

PD can do what they want. they arent bound. their passion is racing and cars.

MS contracted bungie for a certain amount of halo games this gen.

they must have felt chained. its probably why they are leaving MS. no doubt they would want nothing but more contracted halos off them otherwise.

PD are happy to develop GT... at their own pace. no pressure.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'd been hoping to find someone who knew exactly how PD and Bungie felt about developing the games that made them the successes they are.
ricflair on 7 Jan '10
i think Halo Reach will sell more than GT5.

If the demo of GT5 is representative of the final game. I'm gonna give it a miss. I'm not sure what i was supposed to be excited about. It was dull and absolutely souless.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 7 Jan '10
The GT franchise is far bigger than Halo...

Furthermore, I would argue that GT is also one of the most popular racers ever on any platform.

Halo on the other hand pales somewhat when you start looking at all the FPS games on the PC.

Sure, there are a fair number of racing sims on the solitaire machine but these are more niche interest games as compared to for example Battlefield 2 or any of the other big FPS titles...

Talking out of your anal orifice yet again are we little-bwoy!

GT is a boring as f**k simulator that sells because it has pretty graphics and now "pretty dents ohh and some rain on the shiny windscreen...he he!!

Halo on the other hand is pure unadulterated gaming nirvana and fun which you'd know if you took your thumb out of your bottom and actually played it, fool!

I was approximately rank 30 on both Halo 2 and 3 so I have at least a working knowledge of the series.

Likewise, I'm sure you're equally familiar with Killzone, UC2, Warhawk, right? Laughing
PS3_fannyboy on 7 Jan '10
ha ha haaaaaa Halo reach biggest game of the year, thats a good one! HAAA HAAAAAAAAAAA. The next COD will be the biggest game of the year, and next year, then the year after that .... etc etc
djs88 on 7 Jan '10
So if I read it right, they dont think Natal will do so well then?

Bold claims for jan 7th though, lets wait and see. Its a long time between now and December, 12 months in fact!
Barca Azul on 7 Jan '10
What are you talking about milking a franchise?

There have been 5 Call of Duty games out on the 360 this generation and by the time Halo Reach comes out it will be 6.

That's milking it.

Halo multiplayer is still the most balanced gaming experience you can play on a console. You actually need skill to kill people, not some perk system to boost your abilities.

I'd keep that down, as Reach is going to have perks-style system, apparently.

Well the day Halo Multiplayer goes the COD perk route will be the day it loses its fans. Halo 3 is still popular today on Xbox Live. Only recently moving to second place when MW2 came out. That's value for money for a game that been around 2 years and testament to its appeal.

Halo : Reach will sell well, and MS have always been good at marketing Halo. So I think their claims will be fulfilled.

I also find it amusing that people think GT is bigger than Halo. Look at the revenues for both and I think you'll find yourselves mistaken.
bazzatuk on 7 Jan '10
I have to say, i will be getting halo reach when it comes out..... a brand new halo game built on a different engine than every other halo game, im looking forward to it, watch out for odst 2 to be annouced at e3 for next xmas 2011 before the big one halo 4 for xbox 720 in 2012 when it launches.
The_Hun1 on 7 Jan '10
Halo : Reach will sell well, and MS have always been good at marketing Halo. So I think their claims will be fulfilled.

Exactly.
People will buy whatever...If everyone with a 360 buys Reach, then yeah, sure it will be the biggest game of next year. More people have 360s than Ps3s. Thats just basic maths.
If everyone that had a ps2 brought Persona 4, a game that actually deserves to be played as opposed to all this CoD type b******s, that would be the biggest game of the year.
So, whatever..good for them. Keep peddling the same crap, thats just business sense.
jazzy_p on 7 Jan '10
What are you talking about milking a franchise?

There have been 5 Call of Duty games out on the 360 this generation and by the time Halo Reach comes out it will be 6.

That's milking it.

Halo multiplayer is still the most balanced gaming experience you can play on a console. You actually need skill to kill people, not some perk system to boost your abilities.
agree about the milking cod comments. tbh,after the dud that was mw2 i'd let treyarch handle dev duties for cod from now on. waw leaves mw2 in it's dust.

one other thing: skill to kill people in halo mp!?
any game that uses auto aim cannot be regarded as needing skill. the 360 does it for you.
ste hicky on 7 Jan '10
Doesn't seem to with me when I'm using the sniper rifle. I wish it would though. Confused
MrPirtniw on 7 Jan '10
I have to say, i will be getting halo reach when it comes out..... a brand new halo game built on a different engine than every other halo game, im looking forward to it, watch out for odst 2 to be annouced at e3 for next xmas 2011 before the big one halo 4 for xbox 720 in 2012 when it launches.

You won't see a new Halo at the launch of a new console. They'll give it a couple of years (as they did with the 360) so that it's release will boost sales of the console.
altitude2k on 7 Jan '10
Its going to arrive in a 10ft high case with 6ft high writing on.
lonewolf2002 on 7 Jan '10
I have to say, i will be getting halo reach when it comes out..... a brand new halo game built on a different engine than every other halo game, im looking forward to it, watch out for odst 2 to be annouced at e3 for next xmas 2011 before the big one halo 4 for xbox 720 in 2012 when it launches.

You won't see a new Halo at the launch of a new console. They'll give it a couple of years (as they did with the 360) so that it's release will boost sales of the console.

im not too sure, halo is ms biggest franchise, and halo 4 would be the 1st proper new game in the series since 3, the other 4 (halo wars, odst, odst 2 and reach) are fillers in the timeline. Halo 4 has to be a launch game on a brand new console in 2012 with full motion capture on a natal 2 control system built in to it.

It either halo 4 or a ms sports day thing??? what would you have?

As for the cod thing, i had no idea that their has been 5 titles so far, i have cod 2, cod 3, cod 4 mw, cod waw and now cod mw 2. Ive brought everyone, i didn't know i was that predictable in my game choices, i remember when the dc was going strong, i had everytime of game going from puzzle, rpg, action, sports, arcade, beat en ups, shooters, gun games, FREE.

As i have got older, my time less and my commitments more, my game choice has shrunk to ones i really love like fps and driving, the others have dropped down on my list.

I think on my next holiday i will get reacquainted with my dc
The_Hun1 on 7 Jan '10
Its going to arrive in a 10ft high case with 6ft high writing on.

...due to the fact they had to spread it across 12 DVD's. Laughing

Definitely the "biggest" game of 2010!
PS3_fannyboy on 7 Jan '10
Its going to arrive in a 10ft high case with 6ft high writing on.

damn you! i was going to write something similar
pishers on 7 Jan '10
i think Halo Reach will sell more than GT5.

If the demo of GT5 is representative of the final game. I'm gonna give it a miss. I'm not sure what i was supposed to be excited about. It was dull and absolutely souless.

well a 200meg demo is hardly gonna be packed.

especially with one car to choose from and one short oval track. time attack only and nothing but a ghost to 'race'.

hardly representative, that was just a TA competition. fool.
svd_grasshopper on 7 Jan '10
Halo will probably be bigger just through sheer popularity but in fairness I doubt it will be far from the best release this year. People like this stuff. But it doesn't float with me I dont care what numbers and peoples thoughts are.
gogo65uk on 7 Jan '10
I have to say, i will be getting halo reach when it comes out..... a brand new halo game built on a different engine than every other halo game, im looking forward to it, watch out for odst 2 to be annouced at e3 for next xmas 2011 before the big one halo 4 for xbox 720 in 2012 when it launches.

You won't see a new Halo at the launch of a new console. They'll give it a couple of years (as they did with the 360) so that it's release will boost sales of the console.

im not too sure, halo is ms biggest franchise, and halo 4 would be the 1st proper new game in the series since 3, the other 4 (halo wars, odst, odst 2 and reach) are fillers in the timeline. Halo 4 has to be a launch game on a brand new console in 2012 with full motion capture on a natal 2 control system built in to it.

It either halo 4 or a ms sports day thing??? what would you have?

Well of course I'd prefer another Halo at launch, but when was the last time a console launched with a AAA title?
altitude2k on 7 Jan '10
I have to say, i will be getting halo reach when it comes out..... a brand new halo game built on a different engine than every other halo game, im looking forward to it, watch out for odst 2 to be annouced at e3 for next xmas 2011 before the big one halo 4 for xbox 720 in 2012 when it launches.

You won't see a new Halo at the launch of a new console. They'll give it a couple of years (as they did with the 360) so that it's release will boost sales of the console.

im not too sure, halo is ms biggest franchise, and halo 4 would be the 1st proper new game in the series since 3, the other 4 (halo wars, odst, odst 2 and reach) are fillers in the timeline. Halo 4 has to be a launch game on a brand new console in 2012 with full motion capture on a natal 2 control system built in to it.

It either halo 4 or a ms sports day thing??? what would you have?

Well of course I'd prefer another Halo at launch, but when was the last time a console launched with a AAA title?

the orginal xbox with halo, pgr, and the dc before that with soul calibur and errrr i guess the ps with wipeout and ridge and well the 360 had some a games, but not triple a
The_Hun1 on 7 Jan '10
I have to say, i will be getting halo reach when it comes out..... a brand new halo game built on a different engine than every other halo game, im looking forward to it, watch out for odst 2 to be annouced at e3 for next xmas 2011 before the big one halo 4 for xbox 720 in 2012 when it launches.

You won't see a new Halo at the launch of a new console. They'll give it a couple of years (as they did with the 360) so that it's release will boost sales of the console.

im not too sure, halo is ms biggest franchise, and halo 4 would be the 1st proper new game in the series since 3, the other 4 (halo wars, odst, odst 2 and reach) are fillers in the timeline. Halo 4 has to be a launch game on a brand new console in 2012 with full motion capture on a natal 2 control system built in to it.

It either halo 4 or a ms sports day thing??? what would you have?

Well of course I'd prefer another Halo at launch, but when was the last time a console launched with a AAA title?

the orginal xbox with halo, pgr, and the dc before that with soul calibur and errrr i guess the ps with wipeout and ridge and well the 360 had some a games, but not triple a

Not so sure you can count the original Halo. It was the first in the series, and as I recall there was very little hype for it before release. PGR wasn't a launch title, although PGR3 was (wasn't as good as PGR2, though).
altitude2k on 7 Jan '10
I have to say, i will be getting halo reach when it comes out..... a brand new halo game built on a different engine than every other halo game, im looking forward to it, watch out for odst 2 to be annouced at e3 for next xmas 2011 before the big one halo 4 for xbox 720 in 2012 when it launches.

You won't see a new Halo at the launch of a new console. They'll give it a couple of years (as they did with the 360) so that it's release will boost sales of the console.

im not too sure, halo is ms biggest franchise, and halo 4 would be the 1st proper new game in the series since 3, the other 4 (halo wars, odst, odst 2 and reach) are fillers in the timeline. Halo 4 has to be a launch game on a brand new console in 2012 with full motion capture on a natal 2 control system built in to it.

It either halo 4 or a ms sports day thing??? what would you have?

Well of course I'd prefer another Halo at launch, but when was the last time a console launched with a AAA title?

the orginal xbox with halo, pgr, and the dc before that with soul calibur and errrr i guess the ps with wipeout and ridge and well the 360 had some a games, but not triple a

Not so sure you can count the original Halo. It was the first in the series, and as I recall there was very little hype for it before release. PGR wasn't a launch title, although PGR3 was (wasn't as good as PGR2, though).

PGR was a launch game, i remember walking away with that, halo, jstf on day one for xbox.

And why cant we count the original halo, just because it didnt have a massive amount of hype, it was triple a all the way, the 10 out of 10 in edge and nearly all perfect scores makes this clear.
The_Hun1 on 7 Jan '10
Its going to arrive in a 10ft high case with 6ft high writing on.

damn you! i was going to write something similar

Twisted EvilRazz
lonewolf2002 on 7 Jan '10
I'm basing this on my limited experiences working in a GAME store in Edinburgh but the antipathy towards GT5 is pretty amazing...it is no doubt going to be a fantastic game but I think the fact it's been floating around for SO long has and will no doubt damage its chances of the kind of massive sales Sony needs. If it sells more worldwide than a new Halo title or more than a Wii Fit 3 or whatever Nintendo decide to rip us off with next, you could colour me surprised.
euanb123 on 7 Jan '10
its been floating around to long? what??

delays build excitement come actual launch, no matter how p**sed they were when it got delayed.

never heard of a game doing badly because it was delayed.

if 4 or 5 million people bought a demo for £20 of it when ps3 wasnt so popular, thats a good indication of what the actual game will do when its released and many more people have ps3s.

GT5 ps3 bundles are going to do more damage than any halo 360 bundle did.
svd_grasshopper on 7 Jan '10
The GT franchise is far bigger than Halo...

Furthermore, I would argue that GT is also one of the most popular racers ever on any platform.

Halo on the other hand pales somewhat when you start looking at all the FPS games on the PC.

Sure, there are a fair number of racing sims on the solitaire machine but these are more niche interest games as compared to for example Battlefield 2 or any of the other big FPS titles...

Talking out of your anal orifice yet again are we little-bwoy!

GT is a boring as f**k simulator that sells because it has pretty graphics and now "pretty dents ohh and some rain on the shiny windscreen...he he!!

Halo on the other hand is pure unadulterated gaming nirvana and fun which you'd know if you took your thumb out of your bottom and actually played it, fool!

I was approximately rank 30 on both Halo 2 and 3 so I have at least a working knowledge of the series.

Likewise, I'm sure you're equally familiar with Killzone, UC2, Warhawk, right? Laughing

Yeah, course you were, and chickens have lips, you bulls**tting t**t!
Tonyb on 7 Jan '10
GT5 has no chance to top Halo Reach, I dont think anybody even cares about GT any more especially after the endless delays and poor graphics in the recent demo. Each GT game sells less than the last and GT5P was a bomb selling barely over 200k it's first month in the USA.

GT5 will probably sell 1/10 what Reach does, literally, in it's first NPD. 600k for GT5 versus perhaps 6 million for Reach. PS3 exclusives never sell anyway.
sharky974 on 7 Jan '10
one other thing: skill to kill people in halo mp!? any game that uses auto aim cannot be regarded as needing skill. the 360 does it for you.

It doesn't really have an auto aim. It doesn't move your aim towards a target, but when your reticule becomes red it halves the sensitivity to make up for the difference between a mouse and a control pad.

You need skill to kill in Halo multiplayer, nothing comes for free. Sniping is a real skill for example, something I still haven't perfected to the level some of the level 50s have. When I play COD sniping comes to me easy for example, especially now they have the new heat scope, just seems to easy to me I dont get as much pleasure from it, Halo drove me mad until I started to hold my own. Now I am a proficient player and rarely get negatives. I love it.
bazzatuk on 7 Jan '10
Shock horror, Microsoft in best game of the year claim! They seem to have brushed aside Agent, GOW3, Gran Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, MAG, etc. Convenient.
The Bossman on 7 Jan '10
Uhmm Galaxy 2 will be the best game of 2010..then Zelda.

I've got all three consoles btw.
stedman on 7 Jan '10
I'm getting tired of Halo too, I played 1 and 2 when I got a 360, and after 3 and ODST I'm just so bored of it now. I'm sure Reach will be big and I'll definitely get it, but its the game i'm least looking forward to out of the big name lot.
YCshinobi on 7 Jan '10
My most anticipated games of 2010 are Alan Wake, Red Dead Redemption, Mass Effect 2 and the new Zelda Wii if it's released in time. It doesn't bother me how well they sell as long as they are great to play. I hope Halo Reach is a great game and I'll probably end up buying it, but Bungie will have to up their game because for me ODST was a disappointment.
If I had a PS3 (which hopefully I will sometime soon) I'd be more interested in God of War 3 and Heavy Rain than Gran Turismo 5. I don't care how realistic it is, I play games for escapism.
richard99 on 7 Jan '10
"The GT franchise is far bigger than Halo"

Um no its not, care to show me some sales figures to back up your baseless moronic comment?

I bought GT Prologue for my PS3 and think its s**te, Halo Reach will be awesome...but I think the real dark horse will be Dust 514...whenever CCP decide to release it.
Dave_25 on 7 Jan '10

Talking out of your anal orifice yet again are we little-bwoy!

GT is a boring as f**k simulator that sells because it has pretty graphics and now "pretty dents ohh and some rain on the shiny windscreen...he he!!

Halo on the other hand is pure unadulterated gaming nirvana and fun which you'd know if you took your thumb out of your bottom and actually played it, fool!
yup halo is so awesome! In ODST I played this super sick level where I walked at a sweet leisurely pace for 900m or so without seeing one enemy and that was the end of the level! I also loved walking back and forth within the city, backtracking is so kickass. If that's not quality I dont know what is...
Sleepaphobic on 7 Jan '10

Not so sure you can count the original Halo. It was the first in the series, and as I recall there was very little hype for it before release. PGR wasn't a launch title, although PGR3 was (wasn't as good as PGR2, though).

The first Halo wasn't hyped! Were you in a coma or something? It was advertised everywhere.
voodoo341 on 7 Jan '10
"The GT franchise is far bigger than Halo"

Um no its not, care to show me some sales figures to back up your baseless moronic comment?

life to date GT (series) sales:

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html


Halo figures are a bit harder to come by. i believe the first Halo was around 5 million, with Halo 2 and Halo 3 at 8 million. the last three GTs' are 4 million for GT5P, 11 million for GT4 and 15 million for GT3.
atrimus on 7 Jan '10
ha ha haaaaaa Halo reach biggest game of the year, thats a good one! HAAA HAAAAAAAAAAA. The next COD will be the biggest game of the year, and next year, then the year after that .... etc etc

Pmsl only in your imagination bud
LPKODE2 on 7 Jan '10
Halo: Reach is gonna be a big game, i would consider it to be GOTY 2010.

I won't going to say it officially is, not till bout september time when more games have come out that we're still gonna talk about plus we might have a chance to look at the game that will be coming out in the winter time anyways.
LPKODE2 on 7 Jan '10
Seems like a premature claim to me, though I do think "Reach" will sell more copies than "GT5" will as some have predicted.

Personally "Mass Effect 2" is my most anticipated game for 2010 to date.
The_KFD_Case on 8 Jan '10
Im pretty sure that Heavy Rain: The Origami Killer is a bigger title than Halo Reach. It has 3 extra words in it....
That said, as much as i have hated the last 3 Halo games, a decent squad based shooter that got rid of dual wielding and went back to the main mechanics of the original halo would be great...however the likelihood of that is beyond nil.

When taken in context of what else you typed, I'm confident I understand your intended message however, wouldn't either "below/beneath nil" be more apt? Razz
The_KFD_Case on 8 Jan '10
My penis is HUGE!

Thank you for that. I was starting to get worried and feel ever so much better now! Laughing
The_KFD_Case on 8 Jan '10
The biggest game of the year will inevitably be the next Call of Duty (although I wish it wouldn't be). Although Halo Reach will still doubtlessly be in the top three best-sellers of the year. Wierdly, though, I don't see it selling systems. Surely every Halo fan bought a 360 in 2007 anyway?

My prediction for top 5 sellers in 2010 (Globally)

1: Call of Duty 7 (or whatever)
2: Halo Reach
3: Gran Turismo 5
4: Zelda Wii
5: Final Fantasy XIII

I dunno. My intuition tells me that "CoD 7" will see the CoD franchise fall off the horse as top dog this year. Treyarch is not IW and the Vietnam setting may not resonate quite as strongly with many gamers - some because they remember that time and others because they are too young to know much about it at all. Don't forget "WaW"; it may sell well but it won't be the best seller. That's my two cents worth.
The_KFD_Case on 8 Jan '10
How quickly people forget. Calling odst an expansion pack, and saying halo has been milked? How many gt games have there been, and prologe games they release? Glorified demos that the sony fanboys eat up.
360_Fan on 8 Jan '10
How quickly people forget. Calling odst an expansion pack, and saying halo has been milked? How many gt games have there been, and prologe games they release? Glorified demos that the sony fanboys eat up.

It's often overlooked that GT5p wasn't the first "prologue" GT release. In fact, let's look at the numbers.

There have been 6 Halo retail releases since the launch of the original in 2001 - including this year:

Halo
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Halo 3: ODST
Halo: Reach

And let's see how many GT retail releases there have been since 2001 including 2010:

GT3
GT Concept: Tokyo
GT Concept: Tokyo-Seoul
GT Concept: Tokyo-Geneva (all cars and tracks of which ended up being in GT4)
GT4: Prologue
GT4
GT5: Prologue
GT: PSP
GT5

And that's not including the GT:HD downloadable. Even if you take out the 2 GT Concept releases that weren't released in Europe that's still 7 retail releases compared with 6 Halo releases.

I'm not saying that all these GT releases are necessarily a bad thing if people enjoy them and want to play them, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Hopefully these numbers will make people think twice before mouthing off about "milking" the Halo series.
altitude2k on 8 Jan '10
When taken in context of what else you typed, I'm confident I understand your intended message however, wouldn't either "below/beneath nil" be more apt?

I count backvards....
3 ahahahaaa
2 ahahahaaa
1 ahahahaaaaaa
jazzy_p on 8 Jan '10
The GT franchise is far bigger than Halo...

Furthermore, I would argue that GT is also one of the most popular racers ever on any platform.

Halo on the other hand pales somewhat when you start looking at all the FPS games on the PC.

Sure, there are a fair number of racing sims on the solitaire machine but these are more niche interest games as compared to for example Battlefield 2 or any of the other big FPS titles...

Talking out of your anal orifice yet again are we little-bwoy!

GT is a boring as f**k simulator that sells because it has pretty graphics and now "pretty dents ohh and some rain on the shiny windscreen...he he!!

Halo on the other hand is pure unadulterated gaming nirvana and fun which you'd know if you took your thumb out of your bottom and actually played it, fool!

I was approximately rank 30 on both Halo 2 and 3 so I have at least a working knowledge of the series.

Likewise, I'm sure you're equally familiar with Killzone, UC2, Warhawk, right? Laughing

Yeah, course you were, and chickens have lips, you bulls**tting t**t!

I can most likely prove it kid!

My old gamertag is still active cos I logged into the ubisoft GRAW website the other day...

Was able check my gamerpoints and achievements.

In fact, I probably had a 360 before you did! I ordered a launch one off of ebay and had it within days of launch!
PS3_fannyboy on 8 Jan '10
Admittedly, I think the Halo name isn't as powerful as it was in say, 2007 thanks to Halo Wars and Halo ODST.

That said, Gran Turismo 5 is a massive title (remember that GT5Razzrologue is one of PS3's most sold exclusives, which isn't even the full game) and I'm sure Final Fantasy XIII will get a lot of attention to.

Frankly, there's bigger names than Halo surrounding this year.
RandyTandy on 8 Jan '10
I think that people are forgetting about Fallout new vegas. That is multi platform, which GT 5 and Reach are not.
keiran101692 on 8 Jan '10
I think that people are forgetting about Fallout new vegas. That is multi platform, which GT 5 and Reach are not.

Good point.
The_KFD_Case on 9 Jan '10
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