Time to feel all warm inside, PS3 owners - Sony has claimed that the super-powerful system is the only console that could handle God Of War III.
The hugely anticipated game, which is due to hit shelves in March, is set to become one of the biggest titles of 2010.
Many tip it as a 'system seller' for Sony - and now the firm has told CVG that the game takes full advantage of PS3 hardware.
UK product manager for GoW III, Claire Backhouse, told CVG today:
"The developers have worked hard to use the power of the PS3 to make GOW3 look amazing and have added features that are only possible with PS3.
"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.
"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."
Check back on CVG later this week for the full interview.
According to some lucky journalists who have seen a recent build of the game, the game looks unbelievable.
Uncharted 2 proved the potential of the PS3. I reckon that GOWIII will push it even further.
I often play the 20 minute demo because it is the most visceral piece of gaming entertainment that I have ever witnessed. It never fails to make me laugh when I'm pummelling a gang of knights, whilst riding atop an ogre with a big club.
I have a funny feeling that it will set a benchmark for action games in terms of visuals - as did the GOW games on the PS2.
The HD versions of those are still some of the most impressive visuals I have seen this generation - particularly GOW 2. It still looks awesome.
Can't wait for GOWIII. Just a couple of months to go!
a pc would crash, and come on 3 disks, a xbox, would puke at the thought of god of war entering its disk tray, it would overheat at the sight of kratos's face.
then burn in hell with dantes inferno...thats all your getting xbots, a cheap cheap rip of god of war...
why have something tht feels like a golf, when you can have a golf....come on...whos seen the advert (uk)
I remember Capcom saying something similar to the comments on the dynamic lighting during the development of Res Evil 5. At the time they said the effect of coming out of the dark into the light would play an important role in the game play, did it bollox. Lets hope GOW3's will add something to the game.
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
It's just more PR bull. There is no doubt that only the PS3 can do God of War 3....that's the only system it's coming out on.
And as for the quote, i mean....well....what can you say?
"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."
It all sounds impressive, but unless it's related to the game play somehow it will be lost. How many times in the game are you going to go into the viewpoint Kratos has? Are there bits in the game where you have to go into first person mode and walk from a dark cave into the light?
As the person up there already mentioned, this was one of the big PR bits that was announced about Resi 5.....when you walk out of a shack or a cave you will have an initial moment of blindness as your eyes adjust to the outside world. Did it have any impact on the game whatsoever? Not one.
So as much as i'm looking forward to the game, non of this talk effects me any more. The PS3 and the Xbox are so closely matched that any arguement between what system has the better games is pointless.
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
Excited? OOOOooooooh yes!
Mark, Mark, Mark. What are you doing using someone like him to try and prove a point? I wont click the link as I refuse to give that guy hits of any kind.
Of course GOW3 is going to be great but using a HHG link to try and prove this? That equals fail.
what a load of rubbish, this isnt the first game sony have made this claim about - it may work on people that dont read gaming publications or have a mind, but most sane people know they are talking crap.
MS should make the same claim about alan wake or mass effect and say its only possible on MS tech (that includes windows) as sony cant prove them wrong yet. is halo 3 only possible on the 360?
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
Excited? OOOOooooooh yes!
Mark, Mark, Mark. What are you doing using someone like him to try and prove a point? I wont click the link as I refuse to give that guy hits of any kind.
Of course GOW3 is going to be great but using a HHG link to try and prove this? That equals fail.
I think you're being shallow-minded. That guy is awesome and should have his own TV show. He loves games and loves to talk about games. I can't see the problem. The only fail here is your obvious dislike towards the guy. He doesn't deserve it.
They obviously haven't seen the 10s of other games on other systems that do HDR and dynamic gamma adjustments equally well then.
And if the demo is anything like representative, they should possibly not try to be quite so adventurous. The inconsistent frame-rate on that makes it look awful, no matter how good the effects and graphics are. It's j u dd e rry.
As regards the 360...I reckon it would RROD from just looking at Kratos' face!
Maybe that's why they RROD. When they realise that they're running a game that is multiplatform and the PS3 is managing to run the same thing they just die of embarassment.
A little off topic; but does anyone else think the Dantes Inferno demo is a little GOW rip off? It looked really great, played well and so on, but the power ups etc. almost felt a bit to similar to GOW... Oh well.
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
Excited? OOOOooooooh yes!
Mark, Mark, Mark. What are you doing using someone like him to try and prove a point? I wont click the link as I refuse to give that guy hits of any kind.
Of course GOW3 is going to be great but using a HHG link to try and prove this? That equals fail.
I think you're being shallow-minded. That guy is awesome and should have his own TV show. He loves games and loves to talk about games. I can't see the problem. The only fail here is your obvious dislike towards the guy. He doesn't deserve it.
Im afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this one then. The guy is pure flamebait and everything he does only adds to the silly Fanboys and their silly War.
And to think, im sure yourself and others have questioned CVG's integrity and the fact that they might be biased , yet you think this guy is ok?
Give me an article from 1UP, Shacknews, IGN or even good old CVG but dont link a guy like HHG as some sort of proof of a Games quality or potential. He is part of the problem with Gaming nowadays.
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
Excited? OOOOooooooh yes!
Mark, Mark, Mark. What are you doing using someone like him to try and prove a point? I wont click the link as I refuse to give that guy hits of any kind.
Of course GOW3 is going to be great but using a HHG link to try and prove this? That equals fail.
I think you're being shallow-minded. That guy is awesome and should have his own TV show. He loves games and loves to talk about games. I can't see the problem. The only fail here is your obvious dislike towards the guy. He doesn't deserve it.
Im afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this one then. The guy is pure flamebait and everything he does only adds to the silly Fanboys and their silly War.
And to think, im sure yourself and others have questioned CVG's integrity and the fact that they might be biased , yet you think this guy is ok?
Give me an article from 1UP, Shacknews, IGN or even good old CVG but dont link a guy like HHG as some sort of proof of a Games quality or potential. He is part of the problem with Gaming nowadays.
The only problem with gaming (and most other things) is narrow mindedness. Maybe if you bought yourself a PS3 you could join in on the excitement too.
Me? I'll just lap this year up like a AAA-game-eating-raptor.
And don't act like MS doesn't talk the smack. They talk more s**te than HHG ever will.
As regards the 360...I reckon it would RROD from just looking at Kratos' face!
Maybe that's why they RROD. When they realise that they're running a game that is multiplatform and the PS3 is managing to run the same thing they just die of embarassment.
Too effin right the 360 should die of embarrassment when compared to the PS3!
Oh my God what is this amazing HDRL that i've never heard of and definitely hasn't been around since 2004 and definitely wasn't possible on single core processors and 64mb graphics cards
hip hop gamer is hilarious. no need to view his stuff with ultra seriousness. you need some antidote to richard leadbetters anal digital foundry probing.
both are enjoyable, both at different ends of the spectrum.
GOW not my type of game. but of course it couldnt be "done" on 360 as it is on ps3... all cross platform games are different not matter how close.
uncharted 2 could be done on 360, i doubt it would look as good though. and possibly would have to branch out onto a second disc.
As regards the 360...I reckon it would RROD from just looking at Kratos' face!
Maybe that's why they RROD. When they realise that they're running a game that is multiplatform and the PS3 is managing to run the same thing they just die of embarassment.
Too effin right the 360 should die of embarrassment when compared to the PS3!
Your inability to grasp the English language makes me warm and fuzzy inside
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
Excited? OOOOooooooh yes!
Mark, Mark, Mark. What are you doing using someone like him to try and prove a point? I wont click the link as I refuse to give that guy hits of any kind.
Of course GOW3 is going to be great but using a HHG link to try and prove this? That equals fail.
I think you're being shallow-minded. That guy is awesome and should have his own TV show. He loves games and loves to talk about games. I can't see the problem. The only fail here is your obvious dislike towards the guy. He doesn't deserve it.
Im afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this one then. The guy is pure flamebait and everything he does only adds to the silly Fanboys and their silly War.
And to think, im sure yourself and others have questioned CVG's integrity and the fact that they might be biased , yet you think this guy is ok?
Give me an article from 1UP, Shacknews, IGN or even good old CVG but dont link a guy like HHG as some sort of proof of a Games quality or potential. He is part of the problem with Gaming nowadays.
The only problem with gaming (and most other things) is narrow mindedness. Maybe if you bought yourself a PS3 you could join in on the excitement too.
Me? I'll just lap this year up like a AAA-game-eating-raptor.
And don't act like MS doesn't talk the smack. They talk more s**te than HHG ever will.
I will hopefully have a PS3 by the time GOW3 comes out, does this mean i should then start listening to HHG and hold him in such high reagrds? I certainly hope not.
And narrow mindedness is the only problem with Gaming? Surely, HHG is part of that problem?
More s**te being spouted by the empty vessels at Sony HQ.
I'm sure the game will be an enjoyable experience, but making ridiculous statements about "only possible on the PS3" is just embarrassing and childish!
Just STFU, get the game out, and let people judge for themselves!!
Why is it when these storys comparing CONSOLES come out you get some idiots throwing PC's around? I have a high end pc too but I dont rate it any higher or lower than either of my consoles they do their own thing. But that isn't what story is about. No one bitches at the fact that devs said the new Splinter Cell will use all of xbox's power or same goes to Alan Wake.... just people love to hate sony and slag off ps3 for any given reason (blu ray capacity increase is another) such a bitchy generation of "gamers".
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
Excited? OOOOooooooh yes!
Mark, Mark, Mark. What are you doing using someone like him to try and prove a point? I wont click the link as I refuse to give that guy hits of any kind.
Of course GOW3 is going to be great but using a HHG link to try and prove this? That equals fail.
I think you're being shallow-minded. That guy is awesome and should have his own TV show. He loves games and loves to talk about games. I can't see the problem. The only fail here is your obvious dislike towards the guy. He doesn't deserve it.
Im afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this one then. The guy is pure flamebait and everything he does only adds to the silly Fanboys and their silly War.
And to think, im sure yourself and others have questioned CVG's integrity and the fact that they might be biased , yet you think this guy is ok?
Give me an article from 1UP, Shacknews, IGN or even good old CVG but dont link a guy like HHG as some sort of proof of a Games quality or potential. He is part of the problem with Gaming nowadays.
The only problem with gaming (and most other things) is narrow mindedness. Maybe if you bought yourself a PS3 you could join in on the excitement too.
Me? I'll just lap this year up like a AAA-game-eating-raptor.
And don't act like MS doesn't talk the smack. They talk more s**te than HHG ever will.
I will hopefully have a PS3 by the time GOW3 comes out, does this mean i should then start listening to HHG and hold him in such high reagrds? I certainly hope not.
And narrow mindedness is the only problem with Gaming? Surely, HHG is part of that problem?
You can't blame the guy who supplies the fireworks - only the idiots who misuse them.
The fans are the problem - full stop. The fact that we are tit-for-tatting ( ) over this is a problem.
I've been bitter about CVG in the past, but I was wrong. In fact, one of my new years resolutions is to respect folk who obviously know more than me about subjects, such as gaming.
Also, I wasn't trying to prove anything with the video - I just thought it would be entertaining for gamers to watch. GOWIII will speak loudly enough for itself in a few weeks time.
Anyway, I don't want to fall out over it. If you do get a PS3, I am hoping to add you to my friends list so that I can compare scores and such. Us gamers should stick together! I can't believe the animosity on this site at times...
Haha! love the 360 and PS3 battles! I believe the PS3 is ahead of its time in terms of hardware! but believe microsoft will have the upper hand in afew years when it comes to a new console!
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
Excited? OOOOooooooh yes!
Mark, Mark, Mark. What are you doing using someone like him to try and prove a point? I wont click the link as I refuse to give that guy hits of any kind.
Of course GOW3 is going to be great but using a HHG link to try and prove this? That equals fail.
I think you're being shallow-minded. That guy is awesome and should have his own TV show. He loves games and loves to talk about games. I can't see the problem. The only fail here is your obvious dislike towards the guy. He doesn't deserve it.
Im afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this one then. The guy is pure flamebait and everything he does only adds to the silly Fanboys and their silly War.
And to think, im sure yourself and others have questioned CVG's integrity and the fact that they might be biased , yet you think this guy is ok?
Give me an article from 1UP, Shacknews, IGN or even good old CVG but dont link a guy like HHG as some sort of proof of a Games quality or potential. He is part of the problem with Gaming nowadays.
The only problem with gaming (and most other things) is narrow mindedness. Maybe if you bought yourself a PS3 you could join in on the excitement too.
Me? I'll just lap this year up like a AAA-game-eating-raptor.
And don't act like MS doesn't talk the smack. They talk more s**te than HHG ever will.
I will hopefully have a PS3 by the time GOW3 comes out, does this mean i should then start listening to HHG and hold him in such high reagrds? I certainly hope not.
And narrow mindedness is the only problem with Gaming? Surely, HHG is part of that problem?
You can't blame the guy who supplies the fireworks - only the idiots who misuse them.
The fans are the problem - full stop. The fact that we are tit-for-tatting ( ) over this is a problem.
I've been bitter about CVG in the past, but I was wrong. In fact, one of my new years resolutions is to respect folk who obviously know more than me about subjects, such as gaming.
Also, I wasn't trying to prove anything with the video - I just thought it would be entertaining for gamers to watch. GOWIII will speak loudly enough for itself in a few weeks time.
Anyway, I don't want to fall out over it. If you do get a PS3, I am hoping to add you to my friends list so that I can compare scores and such. Us gamers should stick together! I can't believe the animosity on this site at times...
No falling out here Mark, not at all. I just have a problem with HHG and the likes of him, he gives the Fanboys the ammo they need to keep this 'War' going. The sooner we get back to real journalism and not just rumour moungering, specualtion and idle gossip the better, I blame the tinternet for all of this nonsense .
And when I do get a PS3 I will gladly add you to my friends list as were all just Gamers who like to Game, no ?
It would be a struggle for the 360, same with the new Final Fantasy coming out soon. The 360 version of that will be compressed down and will be on 4 discs, but it's only 1 Blu Ray disc for PS3. Imagine if it was 2 Blu Rays, the 360 would need to design new packaging for it.
It'll be a great game, hopefully I'll get persuaded to buy it, haven't bought into GOW so far.
Sounds like a s**tstorm exploded when this article appeared. I'll hold judgement on the gamel, until a see it for myself on the PS3. As for the 360 fanboy aboe, how can you criticise the PS3 with the YLOD, when the 360 suffers from the RROD problem as well?
Sounds like a s**tstorm exploded when this article appeared. I'll hold judgement on the gamel, until a see it for myself on the PS3. As for the 360 fanboy aboe, how can you criticise the PS3 with the YLOD, when the 360 suffers from the RROD problem as well?
It was a mock of another post - you needed to follow the rest of the thread, really.
They say this about every PS3 exclusive that comes out "ONLY POSSIBLE ON PS3"
Saying that though, I think the amount of bile that that Greenberg fellow spews about Xbox pretty much makes Sony and Microsoft's PR department equal in the bulls**t stakes.
I think MS fanboys are intentionally missing the point when its said that it cannot be done on 360. I often wonder how much better games would be if 360 could match the power of ps3.
I notice when multiplatform owners decide to buy a 360 version of a game over the ps3 version, its usually for 1 of 2 reasons
1. Live paid service is better than PSN free service 2. All their friends have brought the 360 version
Neither of these have anything to do with the power of the machine, but help fuel the fanboys empty arguments.
Now lets flip it on its head and suppose PSN sometime in the future surpass live, and more people buy a ps3 (making some multiplatform owners) logic dictates that more multiplatform games will lean towards ps3 than 360 and when that happens 360 will really start to struggle if not die totally.
Im not trying to rag on 360 just pointing out that why multiplatform games are being held back at the moment by 360 spec.
Why is it when these storys comparing CONSOLES come out you get some idiots throwing PC's around? I have a high end pc too but I dont rate it any higher or lower than either of my consoles they do their own thing. But that isn't what story is about. No one bitches at the fact that devs said the new Splinter Cell will use all of xbox's power or same goes to Alan Wake.... just people love to hate sony and slag off ps3 for any given reason (blu ray capacity increase is another) such a bitchy generation of "gamers".
The PC always comes up because it's a gaming system, whether it's a console or not is irrelevant.....it's more to do with the fact that if the PC is ignored some people like to think that the PS3 has the best graphics and is therefore a 'winner'.
The reason no-one bitches about Alan Wake on 360 or any other game that is using all the 360 power is because the 360 gamers seem to be more mature, they can handle criticism and shake it off....unlike the immature Sony Defence Force who get rattled at the slightest bit of negativity and immediately jump to defend it.
I own a top-end PC and all current gen consoles, face the facts, the PC has got the most flexibility, the best graphics, best sound, best multiplayer modes, best 3rd party support, more indepth games and more genres to choose from...big deal.
The PS3 and 360 have virtually nothing between them regards gaming hardware spec and the 360 has a much better games library and online service. It seems to be sour grapes for Sony fanboys that the 360 is still matching the PS3 even when it's a year older and much cheaper (cue lists of exclusive games and how much the 360 costs with the 'essential' wireless adaptor etc).
As for this article, it's simply talking about HDR lighting which is run on the SPU's. The only reason the 360 couldn't do it is because it hasn't got SPU's, loads of games on 360 and PS3 have used HDR.....it's years old technology, seriously...who is impressed by this? Only people who don't know what it actually is.
Also multiformat games run better on 360 apparently- well, in most cases anyway. Bayonetta being one example- though I never buy two of the same game just to compare them, that's just what I've heard.
The main reason for me other then the ones you mentioned is because I much (MUCH) prefer the control pad on the 360.
Here is a video from the hiphopgamer show. This guy makes me laugh - I love his enthusiasm for games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJM1ouBa7kk
Anyway, it sounds to me like more recent footage of GOWIII is going to impress greatly. It should be shown this month around the 18th of January, when the embargo ends.
Excited? OOOOooooooh yes!
Mark, Mark, Mark. What are you doing using someone like him to try and prove a point? I wont click the link as I refuse to give that guy hits of any kind.
Of course GOW3 is going to be great but using a HHG link to try and prove this? That equals fail.
I think you're being shallow-minded. That guy is awesome and should have his own TV show. He loves games and loves to talk about games. I can't see the problem. The only fail here is your obvious dislike towards the guy. He doesn't deserve it.
Actually, he does. He's a self confessed Sony fanboy (as is Ngai Croal), so using him as proof equals fail. But he is a likable chap, bit OTT with his flamebait headlines, but likable enough.
There are just as many t**tty pro sony comments as t**tty pro MS/anti sony comments.
The difference is hardly night and day, even when the PS3 is being handled by first party developers (though definitely more powerful).
The biggest issue with the 360 holding games back is storage, not graphical grunt. All the PS3 games could be on 360, I don't think there's anything I've seen that couldn't be done. The graphics might not be as good, but it's not like with the wii, where is simply can't handle the sheer amount going on on screen!
In other generations they managed to release multi platform games that were graphically better on the more powerful consoles without lots of extra work. I just think most developers (well, publishers probably) look at the extra time required to get the extra power out of the PS3 and think they can't justify it financially - as long as it's on par, it will sell on PS3 (bayonetta does seem shocking though). Yeah that sucks, but it is also partly Sony's fault for making a console that is harder to program for.
Next time just stick a f**king s**t hot graphics card in with a decent processor and loads of RAM. Maybe a physics card too. I wouldn't care if it was a PC in all but name and OS/interface.
The reason no-one bitches about Alan Wake on 360 or any other game that is using all the 360 power is because the 360 gamers seem to be more mature, they can handle criticism and shake it off....unlike the immature Sony Defence Force who get rattled at the slightest bit of negativity and immediately jump to defend it.
The reason no-one bitches about Alan Wake on 360 is because it isn't out yet and hardly anything has been shown of it. Anyone who just looks at the videos can see that Alan Wake runs like a puppet out of Thunderbirds.
Also, XBots are not mature. Your monologue on "sour grapes for Sony fanboys" says as much. Are such comments still warranted after three years? No. You're just stirring the pot - as is CVG, as is Sony, as is Microsoft.
The majority of people in these forums are pro-360 and there's never been a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
So far I've yet to see a game the PS3 can do that 360 couldn't bar Uncharted 2 I reckon.
Besides this guy is saying that the 360 couldn't run GOW because it can't handle this advanced lighting effect, so what. Will this effect be integral to the gameplay? no. Will this effect make GOW better than Bayonetta? no. Is this effect just a nice little extra? probably.
This is just f**king willy waving and fanboy bait. I don't remember Naughty Dog coming out with statements like this. Even though I believe they truly made a game that could only be done on PS3 through sheer horsepower.
One of the GoWIII developers said on his Twitter! page that they would struggle to render Kratos' torso on the Xbox 360, let alone the absolutely huge environs.
He also reminded people the game is 'an oil painting come to life'
The PC always comes up because it's a gaming system, whether it's a console or not is irrelevant.....it's more to do with the fact that if the PC is ignored some people like to think that the PS3 has the best graphics and is therefore a what it actually is.
Err, no!
The fact that it's not a console is very relevant. Something that costs twice as much should perform better - if I was going to be harsh I would say that it should be twice as good.
I can't afford a Ferrari hence I must compare the benefits of a Golf GTI as compared to a Civic or a Focus. It would be ridiculous to say that I am ignoring the Ferrari to make the other two look better - of course I'd have the Ferrari if I could afford it!
They say this about every PS3 exclusive that comes out "ONLY POSSIBLE ON PS3"
Saying that though, I think the amount of bile that that Greenberg fellow spews about Xbox pretty much makes Sony and Microsoft's PR department equal in the bulls**t stakes.
Agreed. They're both as bad as each other. Anyway, if this game plays as good as Dante's Inferno, we'll all be in for a treat as it looks great graphically. Those of us with PS3's anyway!
Besides this guy is saying that the 360 couldn't run GOW because it ca<snip>
Claire Backhouse is really *not* a guy... and product managers are entitled to plug and advertise their games.
2 words... Dan Greenawalt.
Fair enough they're entitled to back their products but we're entitled to say it's bulls**t. Which it inevitably all is.
Oh and is Greenawalt from Turn 10. They took the biscuit with their PR and then when I played Forza I was really disappointed. The damage modelling was so pathetic it hurt.. roll on GT5 but that's a whole other argument.
"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.
"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."
Yes yes, of course sir, this magical mystical HDRL you describe is only possible on the PS3 and hasn't been happening in PC games for about the past 3 years. Sigh.
As much as I'm looking forward to GOW3 I wish these stupid PR people would do their homework and at least tout some real NEW technology rather than claim their versions of everyone else's technology is new.
"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.
"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."
Yes yes, of course sir, this magical mystical HDRL you describe is only possible on the PS3 and hasn't been happening in PC games for about the past 3 years. Sigh.
As much as I'm looking forward to GOW3 I wish these stupid PR people would do their homework and at least tout some real NEW technology rather than claim their versions of everyone else's technology is new.
See, the problem you XBots have here is that you first take the opening line... "The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs."
... and then take a given example (HDR) of what's PART OF the dynamic lighting solution, then assume it's ALL about HDRL.
That's not what she said folks. HDRL is just part of the dynamic lighting used in GoW III. There's more besides that and getting all the routines split and running simultaneously is what the CELL is especially good at - above and beyond the X360. There's no doubting you need good programmers to get it done, but still, a valid point is being made and you XBots are ignorant fools.
"The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.
"For example, using the High Dynamic Range Lighting (HDRL) technology, the camera - when using Krato's sightline - will emulate the human retina, causing players to feel a sharp brightness when Kratos exits a dark area and enters a sunlit area, similar to how the human eye would need to adjust."
Yes yes, of course sir, this magical mystical HDRL you describe is only possible on the PS3 and hasn't been happening in PC games for about the past 3 years. Sigh.
As much as I'm looking forward to GOW3 I wish these stupid PR people would do their homework and at least tout some real NEW technology rather than claim their versions of everyone else's technology is new.
See, the problem you XBots have here is that you first take the opening line... "The dynamic lighting solution employed in GOW III is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs."
... and then take a given example (HDR) of what's PART OF the dynamic lighting solution, then assume it's ALL about HDRL.
That's not what she said folks. HDRL is just part of the dynamic lighting used in GoW III. There's more besides that and getting all the routines split and running simultaneously is what the CELL is especially good at - above and beyond the X360. There's no doubting you need good programmers to get it done, but still, a valid point is being made and you XBots are ignorant fools.
I don't actually own a 360. I have a PS2, PS3 and a PC. Does that make me a PSPC23bot?
Anywho, I'll wager that when we finally see this fantastic HDR that's only a PART OF an even bigger lighting solution, it looks exactly the same as any other games HDR. Unless of course you're a coder, in which case you can probably compute how many lines of syntax went into the particular ray of lenticular occular facade creation or some such guff that no-one understands or cares about.
Point being, HDRL ain't new or exclusive to only one systems power generating ability, no matter how you dress it up in a press release.
What makes me laugh is the people on here and the internet are bending over backwards to talk bollox and defend their prefered console that what they don't realise is, is the people they are defending don't give a F**k about the individuals, only the money in they pockets!
I don't actually own a 360. I have a PS2, PS3 and a PC. Does that make me a PSPC23bot?
Why don't you tell us? The point is - you're not the first to bang on about HDR in this thread and my previous post covers everyone.
Anywho, I'll wager that when we finally see this fantastic HDR that's only a PART OF an even bigger lighting solution, it looks exactly the same as any other games HDR.
Who says it is 'fantastic HDR'? Yet again you try to bend everyone's will to focus on the single example. If the HDR in GoWIII did look "exactly the same" as say - Halo 3's HDR, what would be wrong with that? The only point Claire made about HDRL is that GoWIII does that AS WELL.
Too confusing for you?
Point being, HDRL ain't new or exclusive to only one systems power generating ability, no matter how you dress it up in a press release.
What makes me laugh is the people on here and the internet are bending over backwards to talk bollox and defend their prefered console that what they don't realise is, is the people they are defending don't give a F**k about the individuals, only the money in they pockets!
I don't actually own a 360. I have a PS2, PS3 and a PC. Does that make me a PSPC23bot?
Why don't you tell us? The point is - you're not the first to bang on about HDR in this thread and my previous post covers everyone.
Anywho, I'll wager that when we finally see this fantastic HDR that's only a PART OF an even bigger lighting solution, it looks exactly the same as any other games HDR.
Who says it is 'fantastic HDR'? Yet again you try to bend everyone's will to focus on the single example. If the HDR in GoWIII did look "exactly the same" as say - Halo 3's HDR, what would be wrong with that? The only point Claire made about HDRL is that GoWIII does that AS WELL.
Too confusing for you?
Point being, HDRL ain't new or exclusive to only one systems power generating ability, no matter how you dress it up in a press release.
I guess it is too confusing for you.
I guess it is. I am sad because you hate me so.
All I want is to be your friend
I wuv you!
In other news, my point was more about her wording in the section about Kratos stepping into the light yadda yadda etc...
That particular scene has been played out in many games before now and shouldn't really be used as an example of an upcoming games flashy new tech that 'you can only see here folks'.
The game will still rock as we all know. And maybe then you and me can be friends and hold hands.
In other news, my point was more about her wording in the section about Kratos stepping into the light yadda yadda etc... <snip> <paste>shouldn't really be used as an example of an upcoming games flashy new tech that 'you can only see here folks'.
The section where she's mentioned Kratos stepping into the light is a simple case of trying to explain what HDR is to those people out there who may have heard the term before but don't know what it is!
She wasn't saying HDR isn't in other games, nor trying to dress it up that way! I'm certain there's plenty of other lighting / shadow mapping routines that are hived off to the CELL in addition to HDR! It's the implementation of lighting that's being claimed as "only possible on PS3", not HDR.
About HDR... How many people knew HDR is in GoW III? Worth mentioning or not for fear of being persecuted by ignorant XBots?
What makes me laugh is the people on here and the internet are bending over backwards to talk bollox and defend their prefered console that what they don't realise is, is the people they are defending don't give a F**k about the individuals, only the money in they pockets!
She wasn't saying HDR isn't in other games, nor trying to dress it up that way! I'm certain there's plenty of other lighting / shadow mapping routines that are hived off to the CELL in addition to HDR! It's the implementation of lighting that's being claimed as "only possible on PS3", not HDR.
You're right, she wasn't saying HDR isn't in other games, in fact she doesn't mention that it IS in other games at all. Thats because she's trying to sell it as exclusive to GOW3. The part where she says: 'The developers have worked hard to use the power of the PS3 to make GOW3 look amazing and have added features that are only possible with PS3' and then immediately uses HDR as an example of this is a bit of a dead giveaway on that one.
Thats because she's trying to sell it as exclusive to GOW3. The part where she says: 'The developers have worked hard to use the power of the PS3 to make GOW3 look amazing and have added features that are only possible with PS3' and then immediately uses HDR as an example of this is a bit of a dead giveaway on that one.
But meh, to each his own. I wuv you too!
I can sense your love, I really can, but you're still wrong.
HDR is just an example of what's in the dynamic lighting solution employed in GoW III that is only feasible through the computing power provided by the Cell SPUs.
Everyone knows HDR was a huge point with Halo 3 and Halo 3 ODST. That's why they run at a sub-HD native resolution at 30fps. Of course, GoW III runs at a native HD resolution and still manages HDR at 60fps.
Ok, so maybe they could do it on a high-end pc. But then again it might be more to do with multi-tasking than raw brute power so maybe not.
As regards the 360...I reckon it would RROD from just looking at Kratos' face!
I was doing so well at simply observing this rather amusing thread of hyperbole and PR jibber jabber, but I shall no longer restrain myself. Are you seriously suggesting that the latest crop of Intel CPUs starting with the Core i7 line-up (heck, even if we're being kind the latest AMD CPUs are more than a match!) mounted on motherboards using a generation of RAM with memory buffers the PS3 (and all of the rest of the consoles) can only dream of aren't able to match, let alone out perform, the PS3's aging architecture in terms of multi-tasking and "brute force"?! If that is what you truly think/believe, then you haven't got a clue about hardware.
Oh my God what is this amazing HDRL that i've never heard of and definitely hasn't been around since 2004 and definitely wasn't possible on single core processors and 64mb graphics cards
hip hop gamer is hilarious. no need to view his stuff with ultra seriousness. you need some antidote to richard leadbetters anal digital foundry probing.
both are enjoyable, both at different ends of the spectrum.
GOW not my type of game. but of course it couldnt be "done" on 360 as it is on ps3... all cross platform games are different not matter how close.
uncharted 2 could be done on 360, i doubt it would look as good though. and possibly would have to branch out onto a second disc.
I'm impressed with the lucidity of your post, SVG, and I reckon you could well be right.
More s**te being spouted by the empty vessels at Sony HQ.
I'm sure the game will be an enjoyable experience, but making ridiculous statements about "only possible on the PS3" is just embarrassing and childish!
Just STFU, get the game out, and let people judge for themselves!!
hip hop gamer is hilarious. no need to view his stuff with ultra seriousness. you need some antidote to richard leadbetters anal digital foundry probing.
Hip Hop Gamer is best heard on the Warzone, courtesy of TheBitbag.com.
It's the only place HHG really gets involved in any sort of open debate and so while he's able to make his point and say his piece, it does not come without argument.
Just an innocent plug there for Torrence Davis and here's another plug... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODLFGKosS2E
Why is it when these storys comparing CONSOLES come out you get some idiots throwing PC's around? I have a high end pc too but I dont rate it any higher or lower than either of my consoles they do their own thing. But that isn't what story is about. No one bitches at the fact that devs said the new Splinter Cell will use all of xbox's power or same goes to Alan Wake.... just people love to hate sony and slag off ps3 for any given reason (blu ray capacity increase is another) such a bitchy generation of "gamers".
Perhaps because the header indicates that Sony claims "GoW III" is "only possible on PS3"? That's just flat out false from a hardware perspective. From a software perspective it is currently correct since "GoW III" has only been planned for the PS3. If Sony and their SDF fanboys want to spout utter bile like this, then they shouldn't be surprised at all when quick, withering rebuttals follow.
Ok, so maybe they could do it on a high-end pc. But then again it might be more to do with multi-tasking than raw brute power so maybe not.
As regards the 360...I reckon it would RROD from just looking at Kratos' face!
I was doing so well at simply observing this rather amusing thread of hyperbole and PR jibber jabber, but I shall no longer restrain myself. Are you seriously suggesting that the latest crop of Intel CPUs starting with the Core i7 line-up (heck, even if we're being kind the latest AMD CPUs are more than a match!) mounted on motherboards using a generation of RAM with memory buffers the PS3 (and all of the rest of the consoles) can only dream of aren't able to match, let alone out perform, the PS3's aging architecture in terms of multi-tasking and "brute force"?! If that is what you truly think/believe, then you haven't got a clue about hardware.
Well...maybe not entirely serious!
Ultimately, though, I'll concur that it's a bit irrelevant talking about GoW on the PC because it just ain't the sort of game that will ever be big in the elite world of PC gaming and isn't particularly suited to the platform either.
It's like discussing whether Jamaica or Egypt is a better place to build a ski resort.
The true battle is between MS and Sony and we know the God of War's a better warrior than our green power ranger, eh!
The reason no-one bitches about Alan Wake on 360 or any other game that is using all the 360 power is because the 360 gamers seem to be more mature, they can handle criticism and shake it off....unlike the immature Sony Defence Force who get rattled at the slightest bit of negativity and immediately jump to defend it.
The reason no-one bitches about Alan Wake on 360 is because it isn't out yet and hardly anything has been shown of it. Anyone who just looks at the videos can see that Alan Wake runs like a puppet out of Thunderbirds.
Also, XBots are not mature. Your monologue on "sour grapes for Sony fanboys" says as much. Are such comments still warranted after three years? No. You're just stirring the pot - as is CVG, as is Sony, as is Microsoft.
The majority of people in these forums are pro-360 and there's never been a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Which is why you love it here and fit right in, right Von? Happy belated New Year to you btw.
One of the GoWIII developers said on his Twitter! page that they would struggle to render Kratos' torso on the Xbox 360, let alone the absolutely huge environs.
He also reminded people the game is 'an oil painting come to life'
Seriously? The man may be telling the truth as he sees it...Or he may be heavily influenced by his own passion for a project he has likely worked on for years while on the payroll of Sony. Conflict of interest much? Yup.
The PC always comes up because it's a gaming system, whether it's a console or not is irrelevant.....it's more to do with the fact that if the PC is ignored some people like to think that the PS3 has the best graphics and is therefore a what it actually is.
Err, no!
The fact that it's not a console is very relevant. Something that costs twice as much should perform better - if I was going to be harsh I would say that it should be twice as good.
I can't afford a Ferrari hence I must compare the benefits of a Golf GTI as compared to a Civic or a Focus. It would be ridiculous to say that I am ignoring the Ferrari to make the other two look better - of course I'd have the Ferrari if I could afford it!
That's just it: a high-end PC could quite possibly more than double any of the consoles if the software coding allows for it. Give me the name of just one PS3 or Xbox 360 operated game that even comes close to reaching 100 FPS? Now name me one that can go 100+ FPS? Some gamers swear they can see the difference though I have my doubts given the physical limitations of the human eye, yet the point is that high-end PC hardware has no equal in the rest of the gaming world. Period.
Here's one example: "Mass Effect" (PC version)
Mass Effect Settings (1920x1080):
* Noise Filter on * Textures: Extreme high * Filter: Anisotropic * Everything maxed out
I am so disappointed that nobody has pointed out that Dante's Inferno is coming out on the 360.. COME ON ITS THE SAME DAMN GAME! Thats God of Bore done on the 360 right there...by a 3rd party developer.
Ultimately, though, I'll concur that it's a bit irrelevant talking about GoW on the PC because it just ain't the sort of game that will ever be big in the elite world of PC gaming and isn't particularly suited to the platform either.
It's like discussing whether Jamaica or Egypt is a better place to build a ski resort.
And that's just another reason why the PC is the most flexible and powerful gaming platform and always will be at least one generation ahead of any other system.
Oh, by the way....Dubai's ski resort
I think they sell bowls of humble-pie too, help yourself to a spoon on the way out.
The pot needs to be stirred, else things get stodgy.
How about some classical music? Maybe some Blue Danube?
Which is why you love it here and fit right in, right Von? Happy belated New Year to you btw.
Happy New Year KFD! Hope you had a wonderful Chrimbo!
Thank you kindly! I did indeed; how was yours?
I spent NYE in Vienna...
Mozart & Strauss being long dead and resident in Zentralfriedhof, they still make good tunes.
"Blue Danube" - nice pick, IMO. Sounds like you had a lovely time. I traveled back to the "home region" and visited family in different countries. 'Twas nice.
Apropos classical music, if you listen carefully at 2:58 minutes in to the "Blue Danube" clip you linked, you can hear someone yawn in the background! I had the fortune of getting a free ticket to one of the world's best concert halls (in terms of acoustics) in mid-December where Mozart's "Don Giovanni", Hindermith's "Vier Temperamente" and Beethoven's "6th Symphony - Pastorale" were played. Exquisite.
There's one way to see whether god of war 3 can run on the 360, release it on the 360
These comments on exclusive titles only being able to run on the machine they come out on is always a cowardly way to get a dig in i find. Sony are just as bad as microsoft at this kind of s**t stirring.
There was comments from the 'flower' team about the grass effects only being possible on the ps3(which was quite amusing considering they were nothing special imo).
I have a foot in both doors as i own both machines, so i find it hard to be a fanboy of either machine. I have to admit though, i think sony fanboys lap these kind of comments up and it possibly even helps the sales of the games. 360 fanboys still think 360 exclusives are on a par with the ps3 ones(they're not). They'll argue their point until they're blue in the face though.
True gaming addicts really should get both machines, use the 360 for the majority of the games(as the multiplatform titles are usually better)and use the ps3 for the superb exclusives(and it certainly has some).
"Blue Danube" - nice pick, IMO. Sounds like you had a lovely time. I traveled back to the "home region" and visited family in different countries. 'Twas nice.
A nice pick yes, but to witness it live in concert was wonderful and an experience I most certainly recommend... Seems perhaps you already have! Yes I had a wonderful time, even if fireworks were being set off on the streets most of the night.
No photos permitted during the concert of course, although I'm sure I could muster up a photo or two of the Schonbrunn, Stephansdom & Hofburg or one might simply google them.
Worth visiting if you've never been, though I think maybe I prefer Prague... or maybe not!
-- P.S. Quite funny about that woman yawning. I think she must have recorded the concert on TV and used a video camera to transfer the footage to her PC! I can assure you that despite my linking to that source, she's no relation of mine.
This is funny, this is a PS3 game yet xbox360 fans are in here talking about it? Unless you own obth systems, keep it moving. I remember xbox slogan "only with the power of X", 360 has lots of good and great games, but the biggest sellers are all Halo, wtf? Is that all you guy play? I like shooters but Halo isn't anything great, those pastel colored enemies make me laugh out loud and everyone is bathed in oil, smh. I enjoyed GOW games, but they were linear, very linear almost like Killzone 2.
As for games that can only be done on a system, well there are possible candidates, but no one ever says it. GT5 is one game on PS3 that no 360 could handle the exact way it runs on PS3. Prologue still has better visuals than Forza 3, which is unheard of for a half baked demo. I enjoy Forza 3 don't get me wrong, I play the heck out of it, but it's skimpy on the cars missing loads of old favorites and they had the nerve to remove some cars too. What's with AWD in Forza anyway? It's impossible to beat a tuned up AWD Viper, heck almost any AWD car gets a magnificent boost in acceleration and or top speed. This is unheard of in the real world, because it just doesn't happen. Rant over. I don't care if this game can't be done on the 360, i just want it to be entertaining. Only thing that is a definite fact is PS3 has a few games that outshine the entire catalogue of 360 games. Uncharted, Uncharted 2 spring to mind but 360 has a lot more AA games to boot, and cross platformer is a no contest to 360. I play games on both, so I can say what I want about the things I own and enjoy.
This may all just be PR BS (PC could run it a few times over) but when it comes to 360 I have never once thought any game I played on it looked gorgeous (not many on PS3 either, just a few).
This is funny, this is a PS3 game yet xbox360 fans are in here talking about it? Unless you own obth systems, keep it moving. I remember xbox slogan "only with the power of X", 360 has lots of good and great games, but the biggest sellers are all Halo, wtf? Is that all you guy play? I like shooters but Halo isn't anything great, those pastel colored enemies make me laugh out loud and everyone is bathed in oil, smh. I enjoyed GOW games, but they were linear, very linear almost like Killzone 2.
As for games that can only be done on a system, well there are possible candidates, but no one ever says it. GT5 is one game on PS3 that no 360 could handle the exact way it runs on PS3. Prologue still has better visuals than Forza 3, which is unheard of for a half baked demo. I enjoy Forza 3 don't get me wrong, I play the heck out of it, but it's skimpy on the cars missing loads of old favorites and they had the nerve to remove some cars too. What's with AWD in Forza anyway? It's impossible to beat a tuned up AWD Viper, heck almost any AWD car gets a magnificent boost in acceleration and or top speed. This is unheard of in the real world, because it just doesn't happen. Rant over. I don't care if this game can't be done on the 360, i just want it to be entertaining. Only thing that is a definite fact is PS3 has a few games that outshine the entire catalogue of 360 games. Uncharted, Uncharted 2 spring to mind but 360 has a lot more AA games to boot, and cross platformer is a no contest to 360. I play games on both, so I can say what I want about the things I own and enjoy.
Please pass your message on to your PS3 brethren that have taken nearly every opportunity to crash Xbox 360 threads. Payback is a bitch.
HDR has been around since DirectX9, pretty sure X360 is DX9 (: that said, I believe if used correctly the PS3 has far more room for physics-rich content than the xbox360, but I really don't think graphics processing power is that different.
What a load of b******s, I own both consoles and still think this statement is a load of bottom. If the PS3 is so uber how come the PS3 version of Bayonetta is so inferior? The same goes for Fallout 3 and a number of other multiplatform titles. The PS3 is not that much more powerfull than the 360 and has a processor that is almost impossible for developers to work with. Power of the PS3 my bottom, I'm looking forward to Mass Effect 2 more than God of War, the PSP version was boring and repetative and no doubt this pobably will be too. I hardly play on my PS3 anymore these days as I'm fed up of having to install something every 5 minutes! A great example of the power of the PS3....I downloaded and installed the MAG Beta on the day of release...launched it and then was greeted with another update with a 20 minute install time!...NO THANK YOU SONY!
I love how much of a boner people are getting over what a Sony executive is saying about their killer app for early 2010. If everyone took anything these talking heads said with a pinch of salt then we'd probably all get along so much better
I own A Xbox 360, not exactly quaking in fear as I'm an adult that has seen many versus battles in my time (Spectrum VS Commodore, Atari ST vs Amiga 500, Megadrive vs SNES etc.). This is marketing and so what? I'm really happy GOW 3 is going to be awesome on the PS3. The last game I bought on the PS2 was GOW 2. The opening scene of Kratos climbing the inside of that massive statue (forgot the name) was just incredible. What they squeezed out of the againg PS2 chip-set still makes me drop my jaw and in my eyes keeps up with anything next-gen.
The XBox 360, whether you love or hate it, has done well for itself (just see the software attachment rate). Its forced Sony to get off of its laurels and step-up its game (the fact Sony are re-evaluating and thinking of going multi-core for the PS4 I can see as only a good thing - get over the marketing, Cell is great as a raw number cruncher, but as a gaming device its just too tricky) and all the exclusives are finally coming out and the long-winded and expensive dev process is finally bearing fruit. I think its brilliant.
I'm too cynical to be pulled in by the marketing and the supposed lighting trickery the PS3 can do, its basically running a cut down 7800 GT card, but it does it flippin well, I just dont expect the Matrix. Same way I dont believe the hype about Splinter Cell conviction or Mass Effect 1 or 2 (I really do wish my PS3 mates could have experienced Mass Effect though, same way they wish I could play MGS4) only being capable on the 360 - the 360 is a cut down little monkey of a PC, and the only reason I own one is because "torrent abuse" has killed the PC as a viable platform, and rising dev costs have forced them to jump onto it.
I'm not being patronising, but I think its good that PS3 owners finally have something to shout about. Alot of you have paid out alot of money for a premium product, and up until now, Sony and its partners have over-promised and under-delivered. MS have been geniuses cranking up the hype machine.
Any company that can spend millions on marketing a bog-stadard shooter like Halo 3 and convince a generation that its a ground-breaking game and a cultural phenomenon should be lined up and shot in the back of the head in my opinion, but its a lesson Sony could learn. Too long they have been saying "wait and see, wait and see" and the results havent matched the hype. They have taken a lesson out of there oppositions book, and are now instead said "this will blow ya socks off!"
I cant blame Sony, the past two gens their main rivals have fallen by the wayside and have never really had to justify their decisons etc. I think its brilliant that there are now two big hardcore machines fighting for our cash.
Do you really want to go back to the good old days with just one console dominating and Japanese CEO's treating "Gaijin" developers with almost open contempt? The finacial crisis, and the 360 have forced them them to appreciate the professional structure of western devs, and I for one am sick and tired of all my games having a sexually ambigous hero with spiky hair, and games with all the maturity of a classic Bollywood film.
To the 360 fanboys - relax. We have got nothing to worry about, we have a massive collection of games and some really good ones on the way. Even if Sony do pull a miracle, the PS3 suddenly does unleash this awesome power we have been promised for 5yrs, and the 360 goes the way of the Dreamcast and Saturn, we have had a bloody good run lol. For the PS3 types, good for you, its long overdue that you guys have something to shout about. I cant wait. Once the PS3 finally drops under £200, I will have some fantastic exclusives to FINALLY buy - and cheap too. Uncharted 2, Gran Turismo 5, GOW 3 (MGS4 for £15, get in!! LOL).
Just marketing peps, but for PS3 owners who care, good foryou, its about time your PR peeps started getting their shi7 together lol.
Who brought Masterchef into this anyway? I hate the way Greg keeps utensils in his mouth for too long, it doesn't add to the taste Greg, you bald c**k.
Of course GOW 3 could be done on the 360.........as long as they gave it a huge graphics hit. Spread it accross 11 DVD's. Heavily compressed both the audio and video, took the feel away from the game entirely. Messed around with the controls to the point where it's almost un - playable and took out any kind of visual enhancements whatsoever (So no lighting, shadowing effects, blood splattering or enemy collision detection.). Also they would have to change the story to make it about aliens and switch the combat to FPS.
GOW 3 could be done on a different system.........just not well. PS3 is the only system that can deliver a true God Of War game.
Of course GOW 3 could be done on the 360.........as long as they gave it a huge graphics hit. Spread it accross 11 DVD's. Heavily compressed both the audio and video, took the feel away from the game entirely. Messed around with the controls to the point where it's almost un - playable and took out any kind of visual enhancements whatsoever (So no lighting, shadowing effects, blood splattering or enemy collision detection.). Also they would have to change the story to make it about aliens and switch the combat to FPS.
GOW 3 could be done on a different system.........just not well. PS3 is the only system that can deliver a true God Of War game.
You wouldn't to be on Sony's package-boy-of-the-month poster by any chance, would you?
I thought it was proven that both the PS3 and the 360 both had roughly the same graphical power!, So why wouldn't it be impossible for the 360 to handle gow3 Me I'm not really bothered about the game although i will rent it just to see what the fuss is all about
God of war 2 was the last game i bought for my PS2 Never Played the games, Just wanted to spend some cash. Turned out to be awsome. I then moved to the xbox 360 and fell in love with it. I really enjoyed it, bought all the "must own" games with it. But the ps3 picked up pace and i traded my ps3 in. Tbh guys, i havent looked back. Playing games like resistance 2, killzone 2, uncharted 2 and MGS4 do seperate the PS3 from the 360. I still love 360 games, but when u see the new release like L4D 2 and then play something like killzone 2 there is a huge difference in graphics, gameplay, tempo, sound quality and just enjoyment. I still wish we could get some 360 exclusives, like the Gears of war Games,oh how they will be missed, but The ps3 could take Marcus Pheonix to the new level. With an example of Arkham asylum,The 360 version is said to have better graphics, but the PS3 version just runs a hell of a lot faster and smoother with compbat and gameplay Box console graphics, are good and highly entertaining but just seeing now the PS3's capability i do think God of War 3 could only be made on ps3.My first Blu-ray movie was District 9, expecting to get the GOW E3 Demo. Uk version doesnt receive it. Gutted. Looking foward to the full version,.
God of war 2 was the last game i bought for my PS2 Never Played the games, Just wanted to spend some cash. Turned out to be awsome. I then moved to the xbox 360 and fell in love with it. I really enjoyed it, bought all the "must own" games with it. But the ps3 picked up pace and i traded my ps3 in. Tbh guys, i havent looked back. Playing games like resistance 2, killzone 2, uncharted 2 and MGS4 do seperate the PS3 from the 360. I still love 360 games, but when u see the new release like L4D 2 and then play something like killzone 2 there is a huge difference in graphics, gameplay, tempo, sound quality and just enjoyment. I still wish we could get some 360 exclusives, like the Gears of war Games,oh how they will be missed, but The ps3 could take Marcus Pheonix to the new level. With an example of Arkham asylum,The 360 version is said to have better graphics, but the PS3 version just runs a hell of a lot faster and smoother with compbat and gameplay Box console graphics, are good and highly entertaining but just seeing now the PS3's capability i do think God of War 3 could only be made on ps3.My first Blu-ray movie was District 9, expecting to get the GOW E3 Demo. Uk version doesnt receive it. Gutted. Looking foward to the full version,.
No, Batman looked slightly better on the PS3 (very hard to tell) and ran the same on both consoles.
What a ridiculous bit of marketing speak. The PS3 is less capable than a dual core PC with a £50 graphics card.
That's not bad going for a 4 year old console, but to claim it's the only system capable of running a game is so retarded it doesn't even annoy me.
And yes, Xbox zealots, games do look better on your system than the PS3, but you're both very second class citizens compared to anyone who has bought a half decent PC in the last 3 years.
Just got back to shadow moses in MGS4. Man what a game!! Would like to see how 360 would handle it. Cut scenes alone would eat up 2 dvds lol.
MGS4 is frakking awesome.
I thought it was proven that both the PS3 and the 360 both had roughly the same graphical power!, So why wouldn't it be impossible for the 360 to handle gow3 Me I'm not really bothered about the game although i will rent it just to see what the fuss is all about
Who "proved" that? The X360 can draw more vertices & has a unified shader model. With the eDRAM the X360 can do more transparent alpha textures and handle the overdraw better.
Hardly "the same" then. The X360 has a significant edge on GPU, but the RSX does have it's own special points. For example, the RSX has reserved pixel shaders and so with a mandated reduced vertex count (compared to X360) it can have better lighting & texture highlights. The PS3 can also farm off more GPU intensive tasks to CELL SPE's and can improve texture resolution this way. @woodins, the RSX GPU can do 1/2 the number of ROPS as the nVidia 7800 it's based on.
Some people might say the machines are about the same graphically overall, but both machines are better than the other at doing different things.
It takes time and a lot of rework to do a decent port of a game. The GoW III developers happen to be really, really, really good at what they do. If it were possible for Microsoft to get the GoW III license, a lot of things would have to be dropped due to the way the SPE's can be used on the PS3. The X360 game certainly wouldn't be the same as the PS3 version and there's always a question as to whether the coders could actually manage it, or whether in the end Microsoft would have to ask whether it was worth doing at all.
When a game is running at 30fps and the PS3 is given more CELL+SPE time to burn, it has a most definite edge over the X360. It just so happens that the GoW III developers are even better than the likes of Naughty Dog and that's how they're able to pull off such amazing stuff at 60fps.
What a ridiculous bit of marketing speak. The PS3 is less capable than a dual core PC with a £50 graphics card.
That's not bad going for a 4 year old console, but to claim it's the only system capable of running a game is so retarded it doesn't even annoy me.
And yes, Xbox zealots, games do look better on your system than the PS3, but you're both very second class citizens compared to anyone who has bought a half decent PC in the last 3 years.
Ignorance by the bucket load. When they say it can only be done on PS3, just think about it. Perhaps it's because the 360 isn't much different from your average PC nowadays, just more limited in RAM. The PS3 is something else and different, they are using different means of processing which obviously would not work on the 360 or any other PC for that matter. How it's programmed for the PS3 no way in hell would it work or run on the 360. WHO CARES?!? Could they program the game to run on the 360, of COURSE! As it's programmed and how it runs on the PS3, not without serious algorithmic rewriting will that work on the 360. Anyway who gives a flying.....
Lol, I own all the systems...so I can buy whichever game I wish to play for any system I choose. That is all.
* Sony Network Entertainment Inc. division formed.
* PSN video store to become available on enabled Sony Bravia TV's from next month in the USA.
* 38M PSN i.d's.
* 3.8M PS3's sold in 5 weeks. 1.7M in the USA...
* High definition 3D on existing, enabled Bravia TV's (i.e. 120Hz+). All PS3's upgraded to allow 3D games and 3D Blu-ray movies. Sony to use / integrate with realD technology. Discovery, IMAX and Sony 3D broadcasting 24/7 on 3D channel. ESPN 3D collaboration from June. FIFA World Cup 2010 in 3D. US PGA Tour Golf in 3D.
* New 3D Bravia HDTV's, using shutter glasses.
It is not all about the games... Sony has amazing technology coming up. Will Microsoft integrate, or will XBox and XBox Live fail to grab a position in your living room?
damn straight MGS4s awsome. Wonder if they will make a film could get Kurt Russell to play snake, maybe set it in New York where he could be sent in on a misson by dropping on the roof of the WTC and then escape. Maybe they could call it MGS:Escape From New York.
BTW if you ever see this happen let me know its my idea
damn straight MGS4s awsome. Wonder if they will make a film could get Kurt Russell to play snake, maybe set it in New York where he could be sent in on a misson by dropping on the roof of the WTC and then escape. Maybe they could call it MGS:Escape From New York.
BTW if you ever see this happen let me know its my idea
* Sony Network Entertainment Inc. division formed.
* PSN video store to become available on enabled Sony Bravia TV's from next month in the USA.
* 38M PSN i.d's.
* 3.8M PS3's sold in 5 weeks. 1.7M in the USA...
* High definition 3D on existing, enabled Bravia TV's (i.e. 120Hz+). All PS3's upgraded to allow 3D games and 3D Blu-ray movies. Sony to use / integrate with realD technology. Discovery, IMAX and Sony 3D broadcasting 24/7 on 3D channel. ESPN 3D collaboration from June. FIFA World Cup 2010 in 3D. US PGA Tour Golf in 3D.
* New 3D Bravia HDTV's, using shutter glasses.
It is not all about the games... Sony has amazing technology coming up. Will Microsoft integrate, or will XBox and XBox Live fail to grab a position in your living room?
All very impressive sounding, yet frankly I could hardly care less. Bravia is overpriced compared to what you can find from Samsung and LG. The "3D" hullabaloo doesn't interest me either; I probably won't care too much about what changes they make to the general TV viewing experience in regards to "3D" since my home country has already made a full switch to all channels being digital which my TV can take advantage of once I move back. Now true holographic displays, that would get my attention!
I do not use my Xbox 360 as a media hub. It doesn't interest me. That's what I use my PC for. I use my console for one thing only: easy-to-use gaming. Ok, before I bought an up-scaling DVD surround sound system I did use my Xbox 360 on occasion for its DVD up-scaling capability, yet even if I decided to buy a PS3 I have little reason to think that the way I utilize a console would change asides from perhaps buying an occasional BR on discount.
All of that said, for those whom are infatuated with their spanking new Bravia TV or PS3, etc. by all means enjoy! My disinterest in these latest announcements need not be the sole reflection of various other people's take on the matter.
damn straight MGS4s awsome. Wonder if they will make a film could get Kurt Russell to play snake, maybe set it in New York where he could be sent in on a misson by dropping on the roof of the WTC and then escape. Maybe they could call it MGS:Escape From New York.
BTW if you ever see this happen let me know its my idea
uh i guess someone forgot to tell him HDRL is already supported by the 360s GPU unlike the ps3s. so it would not need the CPU to emulate HDRL, it could use the real thing off its GPU saving the CPU for what its made for. see this is what i hate about sony, they have got a big mouth latley. they use to be so modest and let their game speak for itself. now there running around like 10 year old spoilt brats yelling LOOK AT ME IM SO GOOD I CAN DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS, AND ONLY I CAN DO IT, IM SO GOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!! sony. GET OVER YOURSELF! im sick of this PR bulls**t because thats all it is, just PR talk trying to hype up there game. as the saying goes "talk is cheap" if your game is so good PROVE IT! dont say it is, PROVE IT IS!
* Sony Network Entertainment Inc. division formed.
* PSN video store to become available on enabled Sony Bravia TV's from next month in the USA.
* 38M PSN i.d's.
* 3.8M PS3's sold in 5 weeks. 1.7M in the USA...
* High definition 3D on existing, enabled Bravia TV's (i.e. 120Hz+). All PS3's upgraded to allow 3D games and 3D Blu-ray movies. Sony to use / integrate with realD technology. Discovery, IMAX and Sony 3D broadcasting 24/7 on 3D channel. ESPN 3D collaboration from June. FIFA World Cup 2010 in 3D. US PGA Tour Golf in 3D.
* New 3D Bravia HDTV's, using shutter glasses.
It is not all about the games... Sony has amazing technology coming up. Will Microsoft integrate, or will XBox and XBox Live fail to grab a position in your living room?
All very impressive sounding, yet frankly I could hardly care less. Bravia is overpriced compared to what you can find from Samsung and LG. The "3D" hullabaloo doesn't interest me either; I probably won't care too much about what changes they make to the general TV viewing experience in regards to "3D" since my home country has already made a full switch to all channels being digital which my TV can take advantage of once I move back. Now true holographic displays, that would get my attention!
I do not use my Xbox 360 as a media hub. It doesn't interest me. That's what I use my PC for. I use my console for one thing only: easy-to-use gaming. Ok, before I bought an up-scaling DVD surround sound system I did use my Xbox 360 on occasion for its DVD up-scaling capability, yet even if I decided to buy a PS3 I have little reason to think that the way I utilize a console would change asides from perhaps buying an occasional BR on discount.
All of that said, for those whom are infatuated with their spanking new Bravia TV or PS3, etc. by all means enjoy! My disinterest in these latest announcements need not be the sole reflection of various other people's take on the matter.
I think I preferred your unfounded optimism to your relentless pessimism, KFD!
what they should of said it cant be done using that engine the 360 is more capable of graphics than people think dont need to mention pc because pc kicks ass in the graphics stakes . its only because of lazy developers that the 360 is behind the ps3 graphically at the moment. the only thing the thing the ps3 has over 360 is blu ray and thats for movies. the 360 has a superior graphics processor and the ps3 cell processor is more for streaming than for graphics . plus sonys using new engines for everything when 360 using their new engines people will see a difference in performance.
damn straight MGS4s awsome. Wonder if they will make a film could get Kurt Russell to play snake, maybe set it in New York where he could be sent in on a misson by dropping on the roof of the WTC and then escape. Maybe they could call it MGS:Escape From New York.
BTW if you ever see this happen let me know its my idea
what they should of said it cant be done using that engine the 360 is more capable of graphics than people think dont need to mention pc because pc kicks ass in the graphics stakes . its only because of lazy developers that the 360 is behind the ps3 graphically at the moment. the only thing the thing the ps3 has over 360 is blu ray and thats for movies. the 360 has a superior graphics processor and the ps3 cell processor is more for streaming than for graphics . plus sonys using new engines for everything when 360 using their new engines people will see a difference in performance.
The 360 is slightly graphically superior to the PS3. I honestly don't understand how this is still argued over.
If you aren't technically minded enough to understand the specifications of the respective consoles (no shame in that btw) then just go to Digital Foundry and read ANY of the comparisons.
Mostly multi-format titles are close enough that its hard to call a winner with the naked eye, but the 360 version is almost always a few percentage points faster and better looking, and in some cases is far superior to the PS3 version.
As for Blu-ray being a deciding factor in anything.. IT'S JUST A STORAGE MEDIUM! Having a bigger hard-drive in your PS3 makes beans difference in how a game looks, right? So why would having a bigger capacity optical disc?
Maybe having more space for FMV or multiple soundtracks is a benefit, but otherwise, who cares. Not me, for damn sure, but then I game on the PC.
what they should of said it cant be done using that engine the 360 is more capable of graphics than people think dont need to mention pc because pc kicks ass in the graphics stakes . its only because of lazy developers that the 360 is behind the ps3 graphically at the moment. the only thing the thing the ps3 has over 360 is blu ray and thats for movies. the 360 has a superior graphics processor and the ps3 cell processor is more for streaming than for graphics . plus sonys using new engines for everything when 360 using their new engines people will see a difference in performance.
The 360 is slightly graphically superior to the PS3. I honestly don't understand how this is still argued over.
If you aren't technically minded enough to understand the specifications of the respective consoles (no shame in that btw) then just go to Digital Foundry and read ANY of the comparisons.
Mostly multi-format titles are close enough that its hard to call a winner with the naked eye, but the 360 version is almost always a few percentage points faster and better looking, and in some cases is far superior to the PS3 version.
As for Blu-ray being a deciding factor in anything.. IT'S JUST A STORAGE MEDIUM! Having a bigger hard-drive in your PS3 makes beans difference in how a game looks, right? So why would having a bigger capacity optical disc?
Maybe having more space for FMV or multiple soundtracks is a benefit, but otherwise, who cares. Not me, for damn sure, but then I game on the PC.
damn straight MGS4s awsome. Wonder if they will make a film could get Kurt Russell to play snake? <snip>
I think Billy Connelly would look the part!
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Scottish snake?
As for Blu-ray being a deciding factor in anything.. IT'S JUST A STORAGE MEDIUM! Having a bigger hard-drive in your PS3 makes beans difference in how a game looks, right?
Look up how the CELL's I/O I/F 1 connects to the south bridge. It's capable of simultaneous data transfer from HDD and Blu-ray, ergo a game can dump a full 2GB of data from the Blu-ray to the HDD system cache for example - at init, then stream textures / game data from HDD to memory at the same time as streaming textures / game data from Blu-ray to memory. Result = a bigger variety of textures streamed in and better looking games. The PS3's 2GB of HDD system cache will transfer data faster than 2GB off DVD on a X360, so all the arguments about Blu-ray vs DVD speeds and loading times aren't really worth so much these days.
damn straight MGS4s awsome. Wonder if they will make a film could get Kurt Russell to play snake? <snip>
I think Billy Connelly would look the part!
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Scottish snake?
As for Blu-ray being a deciding factor in anything.. IT'S JUST A STORAGE MEDIUM! Having a bigger hard-drive in your PS3 makes beans difference in how a game looks, right?
Wrong. Look up how the CELL's I/O I/F 1 connects to the south bridge. It's capable of simultaneous data transfer from HDD and Blu-ray, ergo a game can dump a full 2GB of data from the Blu-ray to the HDD system cache for example - at init, then stream textures / game data from HDD to memory at the same time as streaming textures / game data from Blu-ray to memory. Result = a bigger variety of textures streamed in and better looking games. The PS3's 2GB of HDD system cache will transfer data faster than 2GB off DVD on a X360, so all the arguments about Blu-ray vs DVD speeds and loading times aren't really worth so much these days.
Ok, look. I have neither console, I don't have any bias, but you're talking complete and utter rubbish.
Even if you weren't spouting 24 carat bull out of your behind the fact is that the PS3 only has 512mb of graphic memory in total, and unlike the 360 it's split into two 256mb sections. They don't work in exact parallel, which means in use you have less than 512mb to fill.
It's that simple. Even if the Blu-ray drive wasn't slower at transferring data than a DVD drive (which it is, by the way) it wouldn't matter a damn because the memory allocation and memory bandwidth on the PS3 that the data goes into from the processor can't handle it any faster than it already is.
Imagine using a funnel to fill a petrol can. You turn on the petrol pump and pour into the funnel, petrol goes through the funnel into the can. But if you pour too much petrol too fast then the funnel can't empty into the can quick enough, and the petrol overflows. You can use the biggest, fastest petrol pump in all the land but the funnel will only fill the can at the speed it was before.
All this metaphor crap is great and all, but all you really have to do is look at the load times for games on both systems. Modern Warfare 2 for example loads up to 15 seconds faster per level on 360 than on PS3.
So don't be an ass. PS3 is a great gaming system, 360 is a little bit better. Deal with it.
...the PS3 only has 512mb of graphic memory in total, and unlike the 360 it's split into two 256mb sections. They don't work in exact parallel, which means in use you have less than 512mb to fill...
What do you mean by work in parallel exactly? I don't think you understand how any of it works.
Both machines have a total of 512MB of RAM. The X360 can use all 512MB for game data, textures & frame buffer, whilst the PS3 is restricted to 256MB for game data and 256MB for textures / frame buffer. The X360 is certainly more flexible here, so if a game is quite simple then more textures (or higher quality ones) can be squeezed in on the X360, while the PS3 has to use less textures (requires remodeling) or compress textures (lose quality).
On the other hand, we're seeing a new trend these days. Games are becoming more complex and in effect that means the two systems become less different as far as RAM utilization goes. That gives the PS3 more of a chance to shine... If a game takes up 200MB of main RAM on both systems, the X360 will only benefit by the addition of a few textures in memory at any one time. Hardly a big deal if the game is having to stream textures from physical media (i.e. where the real bottleneck is).
Keep in mind that 32MB of main RAM is reserved for O/S functions on the 360 and currently 50MB of main RAM is being used for O/S functions on PS3. I can see that 50MB on PS3 dropping yet again (it was as high as 96MB at launch).
Games that don't use 206MB of game data and don't see say around 245MB of texture data - per level - won't see any difference in memory allocation between systems. If you're wondering where those number comes from, it's to roughly account for the O/S in main RAM and frame buffer in VRAM (this would obviously be resolution dependent and then there's techniques such as double and triple buffering to consider).
Even if the Blu-ray drive wasn't slower at transferring data than a DVD drive it wouldn't matter a damn because the memory allocation and memory bandwidth on the PS3 that the data goes into from the processor can't handle it any faster than it already is.
Speed has absolutely nothing to do with it. PS3 video memory bandwidth is actually faster than that used in the X360. Note: GPU specs & memory comparison.
X360 Xenos @ 500MHz. VRAM: 512MB GDDR3 @ 700MHz (shared with game data RAM). eDRAM: 10MB frame buffer. VRAM Bandwidth: 21.6GBps to VRAM. 256GBps to eDRAM.
PS3 RSX @ 550MHz. VRAM: 256MB GDDR3 @ 700MHz. VRAM Bandwidth: 22.4GBps. PS3 main RAM: XDR @ 3.2GHz (over 4 times faster than X360) with a bandwidth of 25.6 GBps.
The eDRAM helps ensure the X360 maintains decent frame rates.
Games these days use texture streaming rather than loading textures into VRAM once and just using them for the game level. Any difference between PS3 / X360 is going to be down to the number of times the consoles fetch more texture & game data. If both games are fetching anyway - then the speed difference between systems will be down to the media type. As I've said the PS3 can actually do better than the X360 here, because the PS3 can stream from HDD & BD simultaneously to memory. The X360 has no such luck because HDD's are not guaranteed and developers have no HDD based cache to work with. The X360 is stuck with DVD which is slower than HDD. Blu-ray is of course slower than both of these, but as I've said, intelligent use of the HDD makes up for it.
It's true that you can install a X360 game to the HDD and that'll help with load times, but then you're using up to 7GB of HDD space (again game dependent). PS3 games shouldn't need installs to get good performance anymore if they're making proper use of the HDD cache (and most recent SDK).
All this metaphor crap is great and all, but all you really have to do is look at the load times for games on both systems. Modern Warfare 2 for example loads up to 15 seconds faster per level on 360 than on PS3.
Frankly anyone can refer to a specific game as loading faster / slower between platforms. For example, GTA4 on PS3 has slightly faster load times than the X360 version. Modern Warfare 2 didn't require an install for PS3 and I guarantee that it doesn't make use of the 2GB HDD system cache made available in the PS3's recently released EDGE SDK. Infinity Ward is known to have added texture streaming to both X360 and PS3 games and otherwise tweaked its CoD4 engine for MW2.
I hope you can see now. It's really not so simple.
I think MS fanboys are intentionally missing the point when its said that it cannot be done on 360. I often wonder how much better games would be if 360 could match the power of ps3.
I notice when multiplatform owners decide to buy a 360 version of a game over the ps3 version, its usually for 1 of 2 reasons
1. Live paid service is better than PSN free service 2. All their friends have brought the 360 version
Neither of these have anything to do with the power of the machine, but help fuel the fanboys empty arguments.
Now lets flip it on its head and suppose PSN sometime in the future surpass live, and more people buy a ps3 (making some multiplatform owners) logic dictates that more multiplatform games will lean towards ps3 than 360 and when that happens 360 will really start to struggle if not die totally.
Im not trying to rag on 360 just pointing out that why multiplatform games are being held back at the moment by 360 spec.
Most ridiculous comment ever. Shot down in flames by reason 3: Many multiformat games are actually better on 360 (this is purely due to the 360 being the primary platform for development, NOT a slight on PS3, fanboys), reason 4: Live and whether friends have bought it has nothing to do with single player games (I will use Bayonetta as an known example) and 5: your 'noticing' of reasons 1 and 2 is no doubt based on very little fact whatsoever.
Both consoles are better at certain things. PS3 I believe will have more legs in the end, however there are some things it struggles with, which 360 does with ease (the results of this can be seen in the Orange Box, amongst others). It's down to the architecture of the machines.
Could GoW3 been done on 360? Yes, of course. It would be slightly different as it would play to that machines strengths, but to say something is impossible elsewhere is just PR BS to be fair.
Media hacks who keep saying the PS3 is "super-powerful" sound dated, like when old people, talking about computers, say "microchips" or "bits and bytes". There were more powerful PCs when the PS3 was launched, and technology certainly has not stood still. The next time Sony sends you a self-aggrandizing press release, instead of regurgitating their marketing BS, think critically. A real journalist would not blindly accept what some corporation tells him to say, and think.
Pc bummers & 360 fanboys .. you need to see past your bulls**t and credit a fantastic design of every aspect of the god of war series .
no doubt a pc with THE SAME team could make GoW look better on pc , but i dont think anyone else could !!
GoW2 still looks better than any xbox180 game .. and ps2 is less powerfull ! Analyse the models in GoW3 .. the lighting , shading , polycount and the general huge scale ( no loading levels too ) .. all going on at 60fps in "true" 1080p ( which 360 REALLY doesnt do ). Seriously ,xbox360 would not cope . 360 games still look angular even in the best games . goW3 is getting close to pre-rendered CGI at times .
360 is better with textures for sure ( bayonetta textures are FAR better on 360 ) but ps3 is better with modelling and lighting. this can be seen evident in most cross platform games .
ps3 is the ONLY console capable of running GoW3 in all its glory . Study the demo in HD .. you cant deny it , unless you lie to yourself .
Oh and ... Dantes inferno ??? Hahaha`.. give it a rest . my 14 year old brother downloaded the demofor 360 , played for 5 minutes and turned it off .
it looks like ( graphically ) a 3 year old Pc game , and the combat is NOTHING in comparison to god of war .
My bro never played god of war so the next evening i brought round my ps2 and GoW 2 ... and he played that for hours , enjoyed it more than anything he played for a long time .
enjoy dantes inferno as much as you can chaps , its as close as you'll get top GoW .
better still ... avoid it ( and embarassment ) and get bayonetta instead.
Ive had a great laugh the last few months at 360 bitches who cant handle Ps3 finally getting a Real next gen adventure that demonstrates the machines power at last .... today i laughed so much at comments on Cvg , i had to tell you fools to wise up and get real . So ... get real !!
but 360, but 360... whah whah whah . Better texturing than ps3 sumtimes .. but that is all i assure you .
I love 360 too , but its time is running out . look out for the 720 xbox in late 2011- early 2012
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The only fail here is your obvious dislike towards the guy. He doesn't deserve it.
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