Naughty Dog would like to keep working on the PlayStation 3 for "5 of 6 more years," says co-president, Evan Wells.
Speaking in an interview with G4TV, Wells said the Uncharted developer is "not itching for new hardware" and believes it can squeeze even more magic out of Sony's Cell processor.
"We're getting comfortable [with the PS3]," he said. "We're not itching for new hardware. I would love to keep working on the PlayStation [3] for 5 or 6 more years... I think there's still a lot to get out of it."
Uncharted: Eye of Indra pt. 1
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Uncharted: Eye of Indra pt. 1
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The co-boss added: "we made a very big advancement between the first [Uncharted] and the second game, we're really tapping into the Cell processor, but there's more there.
"We're not really feeling limited by the hardware, it's more about the hours of the day and how quickly we want to get the next game out."
Wells explained that though Uncharted 2 kept Cell busy 100% of the time, now the developer is looking to optimize its technology in order to get even more from the PS3 hardware.
"It really feels that sometimes it's this bottomless pit of processing power, you find the right kind of job for it and it can just churn through those things so fast, which really helps with a lot of our rendering and post-processing effects," he said.
More? Calm down Naughty Dog lads, other developers haven't matched the technology of the last game yet.
Well done Naughty Dog and congrats on pioneering with PS3 gaming. Makes me wonder about all those companies moaning about the trouble programming for PS3 compared to Xbox 360. I appreciate that some smaller companies may not have the time or resources to plough into development time for PS3, but then the Xbox has been around far longer and although there have always been great games for it, seems to me that only in the last few years have developers started saying they are pushing it to its limit, presumably a process they've had to learn with time and effort? I have played through Uncharted 2 some 4 or 5 times now on various difficulty settings, something I rarely do with a game I've finished once, it has to be exceptional for me to play through again. I only go back to it again because I still see and feel the quality of the game though it has its faults (yes it does!). I have both consoles so am not biased to one or other, I just hope PS3 developers persevere because it would be a crying shame for its potential to be unfulfilled.
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
other devs use the ps3 like its a 360, thats the problem. most of the cell is sitting there doing fuck all because its xbox code.
too lazy is right.
get real, if you think its all down to laziness why dont you have a go?
if games companies can make lots of money without spending big on pushing hardware to the limits then why will they?
arguably nuaghty dog took a risk by pushing hard on the technical side, it doesnt always pay off. besides, if uc2 played exactly the same with worse graphics would people have loved it any less?
other devs use the ps3 like its a 360, thats the problem. most of the cell is sitting there doing fuck all because its xbox code.
too lazy is right.
get real, if you think its all down to laziness why dont you have a go?
if games companies can make lots of money without spending big on pushing hardware to the limits then why will they?
arguably nuaghty dog took a risk by pushing hard on the technical side, it doesnt always pay off. besides, if uc2 played exactly the same with worse graphics would people have loved it any less?
other devs use the ps3 like its a 360, thats the problem. most of the cell is sitting there doing fuck all because its xbox code.
too lazy is right.
Obviously if a developer were to use the full might of the cell processor, it would create a black hole due to its awesome power being unlocked. I think that's the main reason why developers are too scared to utilize its power.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
There is a difference in sales between Multiplatform and exclusives games. You can't compare the two.
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
The other big exclusive at the time was Forza 3. Uncharted 2 has sold more than Forza 3, so how can it be deemed a disaster?
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
The other big exclusive at the time was Forza 3. Uncharted 2 has sold more than Forza 3, so how can it be deemed a disaster?
I thought UC2 sold around the same as Forza 3 - about a million units in the first month. That's what I read, anyway. Not a particularly comparable pairing considering the relative niche market of the racer, though. UC2 and ODST sales figures would be a fairer comparison, and UC2 does look like its sales weren't as good as hoped when you do so. ODST sold about 3 times the units in the first few weeks.
Why is it that the truly good PS3 releases fall by the wayside in terms of sales? Same went for LBP. Is it install base? Marketing? *shrugs*
I've said this right from the start of this generation of consoles.
How long this current gen lasts will not be down to any one company. If Microsoft launch a new Xbox with Natal and various other gubbins etc that impress people more than the PS3 when Sony and Nintendo will have to react to that.
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
The other big exclusive at the time was Forza 3. Uncharted 2 has sold more than Forza 3, so how can it be deemed a disaster?
I thought UC2 sold around the same as Forza 3 - about a million units in the first month. That's what I read, anyway. Not a particularly comparable pairing considering the relative niche market of the racer, though. UC2 and ODST sales figures would be a fairer comparison, and UC2 does look like its sales weren't as good as hoped when you do so. ODST sold about 3 times the units in the first few weeks.
Why is it that the truly good PS3 releases fall by the wayside in terms of sales? Same went for LBP. Is it install base? Marketing? *shrugs*
So you're saying that Gran Turismo is a niche title too? It's one of the best selling franchises ever - selling even more than Halo. You can't use that excuse for Forza 3. If anything, Uncharted is more of a unknown franchise. And you can't say that 2.5 million sales is a disaster.
the current sales figures for U2 are unknown to us anyway, they sold a milli in the first month which was nearly 3 months ago, just google it! good knows what the figures are now so people on here sayin the sales for the game were a disaster, where you getting these facts from? we just had christmas aswell lol, source please or shut up!
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
The other big exclusive at the time was Forza 3. Uncharted 2 has sold more than Forza 3, so how can it be deemed a disaster?
I thought UC2 sold around the same as Forza 3 - about a million units in the first month. That's what I read, anyway. Not a particularly comparable pairing considering the relative niche market of the racer, though. UC2 and ODST sales figures would be a fairer comparison, and UC2 does look like its sales weren't as good as hoped when you do so. ODST sold about 3 times the units in the first few weeks.
Why is it that the truly good PS3 releases fall by the wayside in terms of sales? Same went for LBP. Is it install base? Marketing? *shrugs*
So you're saying that Gran Turismo is a niche title too? It's one of the best selling franchises ever - selling even more than Halo. You can't use that excuse for Forza 3. If anything, Uncharted is more of a unknown franchise. And you can't say that 2.5 million sales is a disaster.
Even LBP has sold big numbers for a new IP.
That's why I used the word "comparatively". I dare say there are more shooter fans out there than racing fans. Surely you wouldn't expect a market share of exactly the same size to buy a racer as one that buys a shooter?
Anyways this is a daft argument and completely beside the point.
Naughty Dog are to Sony what Rare were to Nintendo back in the glory days, in terms of game quality.
Hopefully this partnership won't be broken up.
Poor old Rare, how the mighty have fallen. Now all they do is put out Viva Pinata sequels and avatar clothing. Microsoft raped them and left them to die in the gutter.
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
The other big exclusive at the time was Forza 3. Uncharted 2 has sold more than Forza 3, so how can it be deemed a disaster?
I thought UC2 sold around the same as Forza 3 - about a million units in the first month. That's what I read, anyway. Not a particularly comparable pairing considering the relative niche market of the racer, though. UC2 and ODST sales figures would be a fairer comparison, and UC2 does look like its sales weren't as good as hoped when you do so. ODST sold about 3 times the units in the first few weeks.
Why is it that the truly good PS3 releases fall by the wayside in terms of sales? Same went for LBP. Is it install base? Marketing? *shrugs*
So you're saying that Gran Turismo is a niche title too? It's one of the best selling franchises ever - selling even more than Halo. You can't use that excuse for Forza 3. If anything, Uncharted is more of a unknown franchise. And you can't say that 2.5 million sales is a disaster.
Even LBP has sold big numbers for a new IP.
That's why I used the word "comparatively". I dare say there are more shooter fans out there than racing fans. Surely you wouldn't expect a market share of exactly the same size to buy a racer as one that buys a shooter?
Anyways this is a daft argument.
It is a daft argument because GT5 will probably sell more copies than MW2 on PS3. Racing games are anything but niche. Therefore, Forza 3 sales were pretty disappointing, to be honest, especially after all the hyper-bole.
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
The other big exclusive at the time was Forza 3. Uncharted 2 has sold more than Forza 3, so how can it be deemed a disaster?
I thought UC2 sold around the same as Forza 3 - about a million units in the first month. That's what I read, anyway. Not a particularly comparable pairing considering the relative niche market of the racer, though. UC2 and ODST sales figures would be a fairer comparison, and UC2 does look like its sales weren't as good as hoped when you do so. ODST sold about 3 times the units in the first few weeks.
Why is it that the truly good PS3 releases fall by the wayside in terms of sales? Same went for LBP. Is it install base? Marketing? *shrugs*
So you're saying that Gran Turismo is a niche title too? It's one of the best selling franchises ever - selling even more than Halo. You can't use that excuse for Forza 3. If anything, Uncharted is more of a unknown franchise. And you can't say that 2.5 million sales is a disaster.
Even LBP has sold big numbers for a new IP.
That's why I used the word "comparatively". I dare say there are more shooter fans out there than racing fans. Surely you wouldn't expect a market share of exactly the same size to buy a racer as one that buys a shooter?
Anyways this is a daft argument.
It is a daft argument because GT5 will probably sell more copies than MW2 on PS3. Racing games are anything but niche. Therefore, Forza 3 sales were pretty disappointing, to be honest, especially after all the hyper-bole.
I honestly don't know what this has got to do with my original point other than the fact that you don't like my choice of one word which wasn't really essential to what I was talking about in the first place
Naughty Dog are to Sony what Rare were to Nintendo back in the glory days, in terms of game quality.
Hopefully this partnership won't be broken up.
Poor old Rare, how the mighty have fallen. Now all they do is put out Viva Pinata sequels and avatar clothing. Microsoft raped them and left them to die in the gutter.
I think it's just as much of a case of the Stamper brothers (or whatever they're called) taking the money and running when they sodded off a few years back. Though they never really struck me as an MS type company, whatever that may be.
That said, I loved Nuts n Bolts. Demo was cack, but getting into building stupid contraptions was really great fun.
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
The other big exclusive at the time was Forza 3. Uncharted 2 has sold more than Forza 3, so how can it be deemed a disaster?
I thought UC2 sold around the same as Forza 3 - about a million units in the first month. That's what I read, anyway. Not a particularly comparable pairing considering the relative niche market of the racer, though. UC2 and ODST sales figures would be a fairer comparison, and UC2 does look like its sales weren't as good as hoped when you do so. ODST sold about 3 times the units in the first few weeks.
Why is it that the truly good PS3 releases fall by the wayside in terms of sales? Same went for LBP. Is it install base? Marketing? *shrugs*
So you're saying that Gran Turismo is a niche title too? It's one of the best selling franchises ever - selling even more than Halo. You can't use that excuse for Forza 3. If anything, Uncharted is more of a unknown franchise. And you can't say that 2.5 million sales is a disaster.
Even LBP has sold big numbers for a new IP.
That's why I used the word "comparatively". I dare say there are more shooter fans out there than racing fans. Surely you wouldn't expect a market share of exactly the same size to buy a racer as one that buys a shooter?
Anyways this is a daft argument.
It is a daft argument because GT5 will probably sell more copies than MW2 on PS3. Racing games are anything but niche. Therefore, Forza 3 sales were pretty disappointing, to be honest, especially after all the hyper-bole.
I honestly don't know what this has got to do with my original point other than the fact that you don't like my choice of one word which wasn't really essential to what I was talking about in the first place
It has everything to do with your previous post. You know, the one that stated driving games don't have the same market share as shooters. I'd be very surprised if GT5 didn't sell 5 million in the first month.
In fact, I reckon it'll be the highest selling game yet for PS3.
other devs use the ps3 like its a 360, thats the problem. most of the cell is sitting there doing fuck all because its xbox code.
too lazy is right.
get real, if you think its all down to laziness why dont you have a go?
if games companies can make lots of money without spending big on pushing hardware to the limits then why will they?
arguably nuaghty dog took a risk by pushing hard on the technical side, it doesnt always pay off. besides, if uc2 played exactly the same with worse graphics would people have loved it any less?
maybe if i were a developer i would.
lots of thing can be done cheaper than they are, but it is not something i would expect of gaming. mass producing cheap rice or white vests maybe, but not gaming.
a lot of companies go the extra mile because they have respect for the product, their selves and their consumer.
first gen ps3 games have proven its possible to pull off great looking games for it.
its down to laziness and stubbornness that they think a straight port is the best way to go.
im sure a fairly cost effective solution could be found if they'd just learn to use it properly.
they think they are saving money, in the short term maybe. id have bought assassins creeds 2 if it didnt run so horrendously on ps3. it tears like a bitch. constantly. what a horrible thing to put your name to as a developer. thats just laziness. especially for a big ass company.
Uncharted 2 has sold 2.52m units worldwide which is surprisingly (my opinion) less than uncharteds 2.92m. http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS3&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total
Forza 3 has sold 2.12m units worldwide. Halo 3DST has sold 4.36m units worldwide, which to me is sickening for what should have been DLC for Halo 3. http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total
Considering UC2 didnt sell that well i guess Naughty Dog are having to look at the big picture here. I hope UC3 isnt on the cards as i'd much rather they created a new IP instead of flogging this dead horse. And when I mean NEW i dont mean another Jak & Daxter!...
Eh? It did sell very well. Much better than UC did.
Well it would of been a disaster if the sales for this franchise went backwards!!.. But against the other games around at that time it didnt shape up well.
The other big exclusive at the time was Forza 3. Uncharted 2 has sold more than Forza 3, so how can it be deemed a disaster?
I thought UC2 sold around the same as Forza 3 - about a million units in the first month. That's what I read, anyway. Not a particularly comparable pairing considering the relative niche market of the racer, though. UC2 and ODST sales figures would be a fairer comparison, and UC2 does look like its sales weren't as good as hoped when you do so. ODST sold about 3 times the units in the first few weeks.
Why is it that the truly good PS3 releases fall by the wayside in terms of sales? Same went for LBP. Is it install base? Marketing? *shrugs*
So you're saying that Gran Turismo is a niche title too? It's one of the best selling franchises ever - selling even more than Halo. You can't use that excuse for Forza 3. If anything, Uncharted is more of a unknown franchise. And you can't say that 2.5 million sales is a disaster.
Even LBP has sold big numbers for a new IP.
That's why I used the word "comparatively". I dare say there are more shooter fans out there than racing fans. Surely you wouldn't expect a market share of exactly the same size to buy a racer as one that buys a shooter?
Anyways this is a daft argument.
It is a daft argument because GT5 will probably sell more copies than MW2 on PS3. Racing games are anything but niche. Therefore, Forza 3 sales were pretty disappointing, to be honest, especially after all the hyper-bole.
I honestly don't know what this has got to do with my original point other than the fact that you don't like my choice of one word which wasn't really essential to what I was talking about in the first place
It has everything to do with your previous post. You know, the one that stated driving games don't have the same market share as shooters. I'd be very surprised if GT5 didn't sell 5 million in the first month.
In fact, I reckon it'll be the highest selling game yet for PS3.
Not bad for a niche genre, eh?
It doesn't have anything to do with it! Regardless of whether I used the word "niche" nor not, it will not be the same group of people likely to purchase both, which makes it a bit strange to compare the two when an 360 exclusive shooter was released in October.
We might as well compare Sainsbury's turnover with River Island...they're both shops after all.
Uncharted 2 has sold 2.52m units worldwide which is surprisingly (my opinion) less than uncharteds 2.92m. http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS3&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total
Forza 3 has sold 2.12m units worldwide. Halo 3DST has sold 4.36m units worldwide, which to me is sickening for what should have been DLC for Halo 3. http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total
UC2 got out three months ago, silly! UC1 is about 3 years old.
its down to laziness and stubbornness that they think a straight port is the best way to go.
im sure a fairly cost effective solution could be found if they'd just learn to use it properly.
they think they are saving money, in the short term maybe. id have bought assassins creeds 2 if it didnt run so horrendously on ps3. it tears like a bitch. constantly. what a horrible thing to put your name to as a developer. thats just laziness. especially for a big ass company.
this is why i dont thinks its companies being lazy, they are making business decisions which they will live or die by. you are probably right that people dont want to be remebered for poor quality but if marketing drives when a product is released and control the product plans then the devs cant do anything about it.
smaller independent devs could likely do better but they'd lack resource which is where naughty dog seem to be doing well - they act like an independent dev but have big resources behind them. MS could learn a bit from sony in backing projects but not meddling in them.
as far as i know, any dev can contact sony for help in programming the ps3. i have read a few different articles on devs who have done so, and they speak highly of the sony team.
you cant put diesel in a petrol engine and expect the same results. this is what devs are doing hitting the ps3 with a 360 code.
as far as i know, any dev can contact sony for help in programming the ps3. i have read a few different articles on devs who have done so, and they speak highly of the sony team.
you cant put diesel in a petrol engine and expect the same results. this is what devs are doing hitting the ps3 with a 360 code.
i have heard that too. MS did a lot before the 360 was released which might have helped devs hit the ground running somewhat but it seems to have stalled with devs like bungie and bioware (in terms of publishing at least) moving away.
at the end of the day software is king and i dont think sony got that when designing the ps3, they seem to get it now with all the effort they are putting into it. if the ps3 was as dev friendly as the 360 i'd expect it have even greater dev support and possibly better quality games.
No, the reason developers have so far failed to tap into the complete awesome power of the Cell chip is because it is so powerful, it is actually sabotaging itself from the future by going back in time.
Because if developers did tap into the full power of Cell, what it would create would be so abhorrent to nature it will stop itself from working in the first place.
at least sony tried to make something future proof, unlike the 360 which is an non-upgradeable pc. which is to rely on motion gimmicks as its future when the ps3 bypasses it on ability with games like agent.
hopefully we will start to see more of a division like this. as uncharted 2 shows, when devs concentrate on the ps3 alone, without having to pander to the 360, then the results are amazing.
the 360 doesnt pander to the ps3 in anyway as its the base console for development, and lowest common denominator.
Assassins Creed 2 looks pretty nice too- haven't noticed any glitches or tears myself- that would be the 360 version though.
My PS3 is on standby for when the odd exclusive rolls out though, can't wait to get both Uncharted games. I don't care for any of thos taking 'sides' as it were. Just means I get a better selection of games. Being a fanboy is like cutting your nose to spite your face.
Come to think of it, UC 2 is the best game on the PS3 hands down, I know most of you would immediately point out to MW2 but then there is no game like UC 2 on any other system . What I intend to say is GT5 will definitely sell in the long term, but people like me who are constrained by money would be looking forward to only one game in March and that would be God Of War 3. Enough Said.
Assassins Creed 2 looks pretty nice too- haven't noticed any glitches or tears myself- that would be the 360 version though.
My PS3 is on standby for when the odd exclusive rolls out though, can't wait to get both Uncharted games. I don't care for any of thos taking 'sides' as it were. Just means I get a better selection of games. Being a fanboy is like cutting your nose to spite your face.
(smug mode off)
assassins 2 on 360 tears pretty bad. not to notice any tearing - at all - you must have an eyesight problem.
the ps3 version is atrocious though. this speaks of the developer, not the machine. as better looking games exist on ps3, without the disgraceful screen tearing. it makes UC1 look like its v-synced.
Weeeell... I can't focus on things that are far away very well... but other than that my eyes are fine (i think). They better be fine- I need them for doing artwork with!
But anyway, as far as glitches and things nothings really jumped out at me yet. My main concern is the fact that it's still quite dull despite the new additions.
to ps3 f***y boy the 360 is still in the lead you douche stop giving everyone flamebait
Only in America now, and the worldwide sales of the PS3 are getting very close to the 360 now, and thats still only becuase of the 360 being out a year before the PS3. If you actually look at the NDP sales data, if both machines had come out at the same time, the PS3 would be infront right now.
I'm waiting for Uncharted 2 to come down in price, say to about twenty quid. I'm sure it's a really good game, but it's still just a poor man's Tomb Raider after all.
at least sony tried to make something future proof, unlike the 360 which is an non-upgradeable pc. which is to rely on motion gimmicks as its future when the ps3 bypasses it on ability with games like agent.
hopefully we will start to see more of a division like this. as uncharted 2 shows, when devs concentrate on the ps3 alone, without having to pander to the 360, then the results are amazing.
the 360 doesnt pander to the ps3 in anyway as its the base console for development, and lowest common denominator.
Welcome to the land of disenfranchised PC gamers where grade A gaming material is frequently, but not always, "dumbed down", etc. to fit the console crowds. That goes for the Xbox 360 and the PS3. If you didn't already comprehend the frustration, now you certainly do.
to ps3 f***y boy the 360 is still in the lead you douche stop giving everyone flamebait
Only in America now, and the worldwide sales of the PS3 are getting very close to the 360 now, and thats still only becuase of the 360 being out a year before the PS3. If you actually look at the NDP sales data, if both machines had come out at the same time, the PS3 would be infront right now.
Look! I never said "UC2 was a disaster!!!" I said compared to other games it didnt sell all that well?, it sold a hell of alot less than ODST & that's a console exclusive? & its also sh1t! & not a scratch on UC2! which is a beautifully crafted game. I just think for Naughty dog to recoup all the development costs they have spent developing for the PS3 they will have to stick with the platform for the next few years?, no brainer really. I hope they move away from Uncharted, UC2 was a great game but it got sooooo boring towards the end, i got sick & tired of just killing wave after wave of generic enemies, for me they got the balance of exploration & shooty bits wrong...again!! i forgave UC1 for this, but UC2 they should of know better!. Its like they ran out of ideas & just thought right lets just pad it out with boring fire fights. Its just a shame that the game & level designers aren't as talented as the art department.
P.s. Ohh & wot the fcuk has a list of console sales got to do with it??.... grow up.
Y'see Hollywood- some 'gamers' just support a brand- much like they would a football team. What baffles me is the inability to see good games from all consoles. All they care about is the competition and the 'winning'. I'd still take my Dreamcast over the PS2 and day of the week.
Besides if anyone wants to be childish about it- why not factor in the Wii's overall sales, hmm?
I'll acknowledge that the first Halo was good. Gears of War also gave me a good few hours fun before my xbox suffered the RROD - although the second felt a bit like GOW 1.1.
TBH, I just don't think MS innovate in the same way Sony have over the past 1-2 years. LBP and UC2 are perfect examples and MAG looks like an interesting attempt at innovation - as opposed to the Halo xyz games they just seem to be pumping out to a schedule...
Ok Sh1t was a bit harsh,... ODST was dated & boring. Bungie have to up their game on Reach..seriously!. When developers like Naughty Dog are producing games of this level, bungie at least have to look! at the bar.
I'll acknowledge that the first Halo was good. Gears of War also gave me a good few hours fun before my xbox suffered the RROD - although the second felt a bit like GOW 1.1.
TBH, I just don't think MS innovate in the same way Sony have over the past 1-2 years. LBP and UC2 are perfect examples and MAG looks like an interesting attempt at innovation - as opposed to the Halo xyz games they just seem to be pumping out to a schedule...
Just my personal preference, mind.
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I'd rather see a HD remake of Halo 1 tbh. I think it has steadily become more run-of-the-mill and formulaic as the series has progressed - just my opinion.
A quick look at Metacritic will illustrate that the aggregate ratings have dropped with each release - Halo:CE garnering 97% and ODST gaining a very disappointing (for a Halo game) score of 83%.
It is a telling story that games like Killzone and UC2 are receiving better ratings than the latest Halo title and this in my eyes is confirmation that gamers are looking for something new.
I would never argue that Sony aren't money-grabbing barstewards but conversely they're not afraid to take a gamble with a game like LBP. I can't help but feel that MS are just rehashing the same games again and again and gleefully filling their pockets...
I'd rather see a HD remake of Halo 1 tbh. I think it has steadily become more run-of-the-mill and formulaic as the series has progressed - just my opinion.
A quick look at Metacritic will illustrate that the aggregate ratings have dropped with each release - Halo:CE garnering 97% and ODST gaining a very disappointing (for a Halo game) score of 83%.
It is a telling story that games like Killzone and UC2 are receiving better ratings than the latest Halo title and this in my eyes is confirmation that gamers are looking for something new.
I would never argue that Sony aren't money-grabbing barstewards but conversely they're not afraid to take a gamble with a game like LBP. I can't help but feel that MS are just rehashing the same games again and again and gleefully filling their pockets...
that's an incredibly one sided opinion you have there, also one full of contradictions!.. you claim Bungie are making run-of-the-mill games, but would be happy that there next release be a prettier version of a 10 year old game?. And what about games like Viva Pinata on the 360? is that not something left-field & different? Ohh & by the way Killzone 2, WAS a pretty game, but under the make up lay a boring linear old girl.
Agreed- when I first loaded up Killzone 2 I thought I was playing Gears of War with a blurry filter over the top. Then I started playing it and it's as if you're running through treacle!
I also had more fun playing Banjo Kazooie n&b more than LBP. It's good... just not as good as I'd hoped.
Agreed- when I first loaded up Killzone 2 I thought I was playing Gears of War with a blurry filter over the top. Then I started playing it and it's as if you're running through treacle!
I also had more fun playing Banjo Kazooie n&b more than LBP. It's good... just not as good as I'd hoped.
Loving Wipeout though.
I like LBP, in many ways its brilliant & the design & feel of it is beautiful. But my main problem with LBP is...its pointless?. Whats there to play for? there is no story or quest or....well, point? Mario may repeat the same storyline over & over & over!!. Fcuking bowser has taken the princess...AGAIN!...yawn But at least its got a reason to keep playing!?... a point
Well, if good things come in threes then it looks like epic fails come in twos!
Hollywood, there is absolutely loads to collect in LBP. Aside from outfits and stickers there are also the challenges whereby you do each level without losing a life (very tricky!). In fact, I’d have to say there’s more point in replaying through LBP than Mario because you can actually wear the outfits and use the unlocked outfits to build levels - what the heeeeeell can you do with all the stars once you’ve collected them in Mario, eh?
@ Pirtniw...I was going to quote the article where the “neutral” IGN discussed how KZ2 “bests Gears visually in pretty much every way” but then I couldn’t be bottomd. You already admitted in the other thread that you don’t wear your glasses for gaming. Might that not...um...explain the blurriness?
killzone 2 is a dull game no way can you say it is better than gears of war 1 or two, and ps3 might sell well but the games sure dont almost every 360 game is beating the ps3 version in the charts and that just shows people are buying it for a cheap blue ray player
Well...for starters it displays the fact that the PS3 is selling better than the 360 and accordingly must be generally regarded as a better console!
I shan't even start comparing upcoming exclusives or games released in the last year at this stage - I think it would make poor Dorris cry!
Two immediate problems crop up with your train of logic:
1) The source of the previous sales figures has not been given and thus can not be confirmed (the last time I recall someone putting out sales figures in a post was around early Dec. '09 or thereabouts, the Xbox 360 was ahead in global sales by ca. 5 million units, IIRC).
2) If a console is superior because it's sold more, as you state at the beginning of your quoted comment, then the Wii is clearly the superior console this generation leaving both the PS3 and Xbox 360 eating dust.
Do you still wish to stand by your flame bait logic?
I don't wear glasses at all. It's only things waaay in the distance that appear slightly fuzzy.
Didn't say the graphics weren't good- but the design and styling looks very much like Gears- just blander. In fact isn't there a dude with a napkin on his head that looks like Marcus Fenix' twin?
Plus Gears is co-op, which in my opinion pushes it past Killzone 2 considering the mayhem that's usually going on.
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Why am I even talking about Killzone or Gears when I've barely started Dragon Age yet? Shame on me...
Well...for starters it displays the fact that the PS3 is selling better than the 360 and accordingly must be generally regarded as a better console!
I shan't even start comparing upcoming exclusives or games released in the last year at this stage - I think it would make poor Dorris cry!
Two immediate problems crop up with your train of logic:
1) The source of the previous sales figures has not been given and thus can not be confirmed (the last time I recall someone putting out sales figures in a post was around early Dec. '09 or thereabouts, the Xbox 360 was ahead in global sales by ca. 5 million units, IIRC).
2) If a console is superior because it's sold more, as you state at the beginning of your quoted comment, then the Wii is clearly the superior console this generation leaving both the PS3 and Xbox 360 eating dust.
Do you still wish to stand by your flame bait logic?
I'll admit I enjoy a game of mario kart as much as the next guy. In terms of serious gaming though the wii is simply not in the running IMHO.
From experience most people that own a wii either own another console/pc or are simply not particularly avid gamers - e.g. my sister.
Well...for starters it displays the fact that the PS3 is selling better than the 360 and accordingly must be generally regarded as a better console!
I shan't even start comparing upcoming exclusives or games released in the last year at this stage - I think it would make poor Dorris cry!
Two immediate problems crop up with your train of logic:
1) The source of the previous sales figures has not been given and thus can not be confirmed (the last time I recall someone putting out sales figures in a post was around early Dec. '09 or thereabouts, the Xbox 360 was ahead in global sales by ca. 5 million units, IIRC).
2) If a console is superior because it's sold more, as you state at the beginning of your quoted comment, then the Wii is clearly the superior console this generation leaving both the PS3 and Xbox 360 eating dust.
Do you still wish to stand by your flame bait logic?
I'll admit I enjoy a game of mario kart as much as the next guy. In terms of serious gaming though the wii is simply not in the running IMHO.
From experience most people that own a wii either own another console/pc or are simply not particularly avid gamers - e.g. my sister.
I don't look down on Wii fans in particular, however the Wii only held a spark of interest for me for a short period of time before I began to research it's capabilities. I do like eye candy; sure it's not the only relevant factor I consider when buying a game yet gaming is very much a visual medium so to me at least, eye candy matters (as does superb story telling and immersion along with a user friendly UI and responsive controls that don't require a door stop manual to comprehend).
There are very few games on the Wii that hold my interest at present, though admittedly I do not make a point of keeping as up to date on Wii releases as I do on PC and Xbox 360 releases, along with some of the PS3 releases although I do not own a PS3 currently. The three games that immediately spring to mind for the Wii are "House of The Dead", the samurai sword dueling Wii Sports game and "Cursed Mountain".
Well as we all can see when a developer has time and the skill, they can output awesome things on a given console. I own every system out now, 2 x360, 2 ps3 a Wii, PSP and a couple of DS's. I also own and have beaten UC2 quite a few times, it's very entertaining, except for the last Boss battle, don't know what happened there, that stunk. I hate normal people who seemingly can eat bullets like there's no tomorrow, wtf? 360 has some games that show what it can do as well, but I tend to not play it as much.
Naughty Dog basically has shown up other devs, Uncharted 2, despite it's flaws is one hell of a showcase. My favorite game on 360 is Forza 3, rather nice looking game, fun to play all around. Hopefully they can keep these systems around a little longer as i am enjoying what i can get out of them. 5 years isn't much to ask, seriously both these systems have a lot of life left in them that is only hampered by dev's creativity. Blame the dev's if the systems upgrade prematurely.
I just think for Naughty dog to recoup all the development costs they have spent developing for the PS3 they will have to stick with the platform for the next few years?, no brainer really. of console sales got to do with it??....
Naughty Dog are a subidary of Sony, they don't recoup development costs like independant developers. They'll stick to the platform Sony tell them to stick to.
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DST has sold 4.36m units worldwide, which to me is sickening for what should have been DLC for Halo 3.
. What I intend to say is GT5 will definitely sell in the long term, but people like me who are constrained by money would be looking forward to only one game in March and that would be God Of War 3. Enough Said. 
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