Leaked copies of Activision's highly-anticipated Modern Warfare 2 are already in the hands of pirates, who have ripped the game and are ready to upload it to the internet, according to claims.
The game's not out until November 10, but discs are already said to be in the hands of gamers. Be warned, playing leaked or pirated versions of Modern Warfare 2 is likely to get you banned from Xbox Live for the rest of your potentially miserable, online-game-less life. Our advice? Be patient - there's only a week to go.
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Halo 3: ODST was hit with a disastrous leak when numerous copies were sold in France three weeks before the game's street date, and predictably uploaded to the internet (complete with French voice-overs) days later.
Be warned, playing leaked or pirated versions of Modern Warfare 2 is likely to get you banned from Xbox Live for rest of your potentially miserable, online-game-less life.
How long does it take to proof read a short article like this? Seriously?
Be warned, playing leaked or pirated versions of Modern Warfare 2 is likely to get you banned from Xbox Live for rest of your potentially miserable, online-game-less life. ..........oooow i bet the downloaders are shaking in their boots !
Be warned, playing leaked or pirated versions of Modern Warfare 2 is likely to get you banned from Xbox Live for rest of your potentially miserable, online-game-less life.
How long does it take to proof read a short article like this? Seriously?
A bit longer than it took you to write that. 1000 apologies.
You must either a) have no work to do b) be unemployed c) be a student to have time to moan about a typo in an article. I do agree though that all articles should be proof read. Cant wait for MW2.....hope i do better than i did in MW as my kill ratio was 0.85...not very impressive. COD 5 i got 1.38....is the quality of player higher in MW?
If its a legit copy you are playing early then its ok (providing you have some proof you paid for it), its the shops fault for letting you have it early. Banning people is for non-legit copys (ie as in these downloaders)
Probably not, but i'd stay offline just to be safe.
A friend of mine has got hold of an early copy and has so far not had any problems though.
I like how CVG have decided to proclaim to the world that its been leaked online. So has pretty much every other new release. Thats just the nature of the internet. Even if i had a flashed 360 i probably wouldn't bother with MW2. Bayonetta on the other hand....
Maybe because I (who's not a professional writer that's also NOT paid to write articles for a living) can clearly write in ENGLISH, and maybe I would expect writers that are paid to do the job to do the same. My sentences make sense. These article errors aren't something that happens every now and then, this occurs on an almost daily basis. That is not the mark of professional journalism!
Why do you nitpick other Posters comments? At least I had something constructive to present. So again, why aren't CVG proof reading articles before posting them? It seems they wait for us to point out the errors and then they correct them.
Im supposed to be picking this up from my local retailer this Saturday.
Does this mean if I play the Game this weekend, there is a chance I may be met with the Ban hammer on Live? Can CVG or someone clarify this? Merci.
You should be OK. Make sure you get a receipt, although I think theideal said Activision are going to town on people shipping it early. So if you don't get in s**t for playing it, your local store might get in s**t for selling it!
I remember MS saying that people playing ODST early had better have proof of purchase, or they were going to get tough - so they're not THAT fussed about people playing it early if they bought it legit. And MS have gone through a wave of banning accounts/consoles that are modded etc recently.
You must either a) have no work to do b) be unemployed c) be a student to have time to moan about a typo in an article. I do agree though that all articles should be proof read. Cant wait for MW2.....hope i do better than i did in MW as my kill ratio was 0.85...not very impressive. COD 5 i got 1.38....is the quality of player higher in MW? Yes I have played both games and you tend to get a mature gamers on mw1 less campers aswell .PS my death to kill ratio was 1.42
Be warned, playing leaked or pirated versions of Modern Warfare 2 is likely to get you banned from Xbox Live for rest of your potentially miserable, online-game-less life.
How long does it take to proof read a short article like this? Seriously?
A bit longer than it took you to write that. 1000 apologies.
No worries Gav but please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD proof read beforehand. I literally proof read everything, from emails to posts and everything in between. It doesn't take a minute and it saves people (like me) jumping down your throat. Sorry if I'm coming across as an ass but I'm having a bad day!
You must either a) have no work to do b) be unemployed c) be a student to have time to moan about a typo in an article. I do agree though that all articles should be proof read. Cant wait for MW2.....hope i do better than i did in MW as my kill ratio was 0.85...not very impressive. COD 5 i got 1.38....is the quality of player higher in MW? Yes I have played both games and you tend to get a mature gamers on mw1 less campers aswell .PS my death to kill ratio was 1.42
Actually I'm on an extended lunch at work.
And if no-one points out the errors, then the errors will continue to come.
Be warned, playing leaked or pirated versions of Modern Warfare 2 is likely to get you banned from Xbox Live for rest of your potentially miserable, online-game-less life. ..........oooow i bet the downloaders are shaking in their boots !
They probably are, in their stolen seal pup skin and mink fur lined elephant skin boots.
wont be paying for pc version of MW2 anyway. may 'test' out the single player on pc, then pick it up when i get a new ps3 later down the road for cheaper, since you dont need a cd-key.
there were thousands of servers for MW1 still, that'll do for now. will be buying bad company 2 for pc though.
so after all the shenanigans with the pc servers issue and the attempt to snuff out mw2 piracy the 360 version gets leaked first.
i wonder what features will be removed from next years console version to counter this.
still gutted over mw2,cancelled my pre order of the pc version and i'll wait for someone to hack/patch the game with some sort of dedi server support before i part with my money.
Im supposed to be picking this up from my local retailer this Saturday.
Does this mean if I play the Game this weekend, there is a chance I may be met with the Ban hammer on Live? Can CVG or someone clarify this? Merci.
My local shop has had a ban hammer put on it selling before the offical date which sucks as i was gonna pick it up on saturday instead i've had to pre-order it, I think Activision are trying to stop shops from selling it early the gits
My sentences make sense. These article errors aren't something that happens every now and then, this occurs on an almost daily basis.
To be picky, you have referred to the errors in the first tense as being more than one, and then further in the same sentence - "this occurs" - you have gone back to referring to the error as a singular mistake.
I'm not trying to be picky, but don't you proofread before you post?
Thanks to those that posted in response to my query. Im going to pick it up on Saturday but will refrain from jumping in until its released to everyone, dont want to be too good for all of you and would want to keep it as much of a level playing field as possible.
Ppl how do i paste someones comment and then make their typing slanted , so you can see i'm commenting on their comment . If you can't my drift bleds . thankyou plz ?
I know its abit off topic but am i right in thinking that banner at the top of the homepage say that GAME are doing modern warfare 2 from 35 quid?? ive preodered from asda and wondered if anyone had heard the Asda price? ive looked on asdas website the page loads up for 1 second saying 44.91 then disapears.
yeah thats what games saying 35 for pc and 45 for xbox and ps3. the gf gonna pick it up for me on launch night for me and both shops doin midnight launch are 2 min walk. just trying to find where the best deal is. im on ps3 b.t.w.
I pre-ordered mine for £35 in August and couldn't be happier. Most games leak online, so of course MW2 would leak as well. It's probably the most hyped game ever.
My sentences make sense. These article errors aren't something that happens every now and then, this occurs on an almost daily basis.
To be picky, you have referred to the errors in the first tense as being more than one, and then further in the same sentence - "this occurs" - you have gone back to referring to the error as a singular mistake.
I'm not trying to be picky, but don't you proofread before you post?
Actually I'm referring to all instances of c**k ups that have crept up in their articles... not just this one article. I thought that was obvious?
I know errors are to be expected but newspapers get it right on a near daily basis, depending on which newspaper you read of course.
Like I say I'm not trying to be an ass... I'm just having a s**t day. My 2 year old daughter has an ear infection and has been screaming through the night since last week. I've not slept properly for 2 months as since moving house I've been sleeping on a campbed and the missus has been on a sofabed. All because there's absolutely no place to put our normal bed due to the work going on in the house after a fire wrecked half the place the day we were due to move in! Coupled with the 45 minute to 1 hour 30 minute drive to work and back each day I'm fast becoming knackered.
Im with xbox360 , already reserved a copy at game .Its a 5 minute walk from my flat so i'll pick it up at midight.Then play it till dawn i expect, booked 4 days of work ! happy day's & nights !
stonecoldmc, I would just jump straight in mate and get your hands dirty. if you paid for the game and have a receipt for it you should be in the clear, it’s the stores problem for selling it to you early. I got halo 3 a day or so early when I pre-ordered it and I went straight online. I have to admit to being a little sad though and going for the big bucks prestige edition with the goggles, its expensive I know but f*ck it. I also have another copy ordered from game for the kids. November is turning into an expensive month....
i never been so worried about the spelling in a post before. can someone plaese mark it for me?
stonecoldmc, I would just jump straight in mate and get your hands dirty. if you paid for the game and have a receipt for it you should be in the clear, it’s the stores problem for selling it to you early. I got halo 3 a day or so early when I pre-ordered it and I went straight online. I have to admit to being a little sad though and going for the big bucks prestige edition with the goggles, its expensive I know but f*ck it. I also have another copy ordered from game for the kids. November is turning into an expensive month....
i never been so worried about the spelling in a post before. can someone plaese mark it for me?
Pass marks from me Kimil .
Torn now from jumping in this weekend or leaving it tll everyone else has it.
You know what (In my best Cartman voice)? Screw you guys im going home (to play MW2)
My sentences make sense. These article errors aren't something that happens every now and then, this occurs on an almost daily basis.
To be picky, you have referred to the errors in the first tense as being more than one, and then further in the same sentence - "this occurs" - you have gone back to referring to the error as a singular mistake.
I'm not trying to be picky, but don't you proofread before you post?
Actually I'm referring to all instances of c**k ups that have crept up in their articles... not just this one article. I thought that was obvious?
I know errors are to be expected but newspapers get it right on a near daily basis, depending on which newspaper you read of course.
Like I say I'm not trying to be an ass... I'm just having a s**t day. My 2 year old daughter has an ear infection and has been screaming through the night since last week. I've not slept properly for 2 months as since moving house I've been sleeping on a campbed and the missus has been on a sofabed. All because there's absolutely no place to put our normal bed due to the work going on in the house after a fire wrecked half the place the day we were due to move in! Coupled with the 45 minute to 1 hour 30 minute drive to work and back each day I'm fast becoming knackered.
I was only joking with you to be honest sounds like a rough time you're having right now though; perhaps a good dose of alcohol would help
lol KFD and Jazzy been bustin me up over a spelling mistake. they didnt like the fact im not a comunist like them and know my own mind, so they just ignored every thing trying to be said and when they had no well thought out defence they attacked my spelling of the word profit lol. According to them the devils in the detail and im satan helping developers raise the price of games...go figure lol
Hence why I hated pc gaming .... none of your mates rarely have a genuine copy of anything. so glad I turned my back on it. Never seen the sense in dodgy copies either. Each to their own I guess.
I've heard others say that it works, saw it hukd I think and in the forums. Overlord is no 2 in the PS3 charts on game at the moment, I'm guessing this is the reason!
You must either a) have no work to do b) be unemployed c) be a student to have time to moan about a typo in an article. I do agree though that all articles should be proof read. Cant wait for MW2.....hope i do better than i did in MW as my kill ratio was 0.85...not very impressive. COD 5 i got 1.38....is the quality of player higher in MW?
Ill wait till the new year and then pick it up from Play.com for 20-25 quid, thanks.
you cant even buy cod4 for 20-25 quid on play.com....
You could a few months back, that and WaW were going for £25 brand new.
Last new year, I bought six games for 100 quid off Play.com. In spain it would have cost me more than 300€, which at the current exchange of the time was about 300 quid too.
See...I said that PC gamers brought it upon themselves!
I know I'm not speaking for the majority but nevertheless I doubt that so many companeis would be moving towards a matchmaking model if it wasn't for people pirating and then playing on cracked servers!
Ill wait till the new year and then pick it up from Play.com for 20-25 quid, thanks.
you cant even buy cod4 for 20-25 quid on play.com....
You could a few months back, that and WaW were going for £25 brand new.
maybe a few months ago but on play they are both going for £39.99 at the mo, which is pretty steep really. shows how popular the game is though.
In the run up to Christmas, they hold their prices more, unless they have overstock, then they start with the offers. After christmas its bargain time, as they know that people wont buy so much.
Plus with February, March and April having some potential big releases, I think you will be able to pick it up cheap in the new year, although they will probably then re package with map packs included.
I still find it incredulous that any idiot thinks a few boycotts will dent the undoubted massive sales of this game. At 1st I had a degree of sympathy with those complaining about the server thing now but it's becoming bile inducing with all the whinging, ok ok so you are boycotting the game and depriving yourself of the experience bra-f***in-vo, voicing your opinions is one thing but procrastinating over it is another.
dammit! from that headline I thought it was the PC version and was stoked but its for the 360 and mine isnt modded.
anyways here's a question, would it be very wrong if i dl the PC version when I have already pre-ordered the ps3 one? technically when you buy a game you're actually just buying the rights to play it so is the paid right for one version enough to play another? I dont care wat activision blizzard say but they cant expect us to buy it twice can they?
doubt it'll happen this year but i remember walking into asda last year a week after WAW came out and seeing it for £25. Wouldn't be surprised if some places did offer it at a slightly discounted price in the run up to christmas though.
Ill wait till the new year and then pick it up from Play.com for 20-25 quid, thanks.
you cant even buy cod4 for 20-25 quid on play.com....
You could a few months back, that and WaW were going for £25 brand new.
maybe a few months ago but on play they are both going for £39.99 at the mo, which is pretty steep really. shows how popular the game is though.
In the run up to Christmas, they hold their prices more, unless they have overstock, then they start with the offers. After christmas its bargain time, as they know that people wont buy so much.
Plus with February, March and April having some potential big releases, I think you will be able to pick it up cheap in the new year, although they will probably then re package with map packs included.
I would wager MW2 will drop below £25 around this time next year at the earliest and not before. Think of the AAA titles that have come and gone since MW1 was released! The only way it will be £25 come new year is if it is total toss and I think it is reasonably safe to suggest it won't be. As the PC version is cheaper at RRP anyway it may be possible, but then again if 'so many' boycott it it won't drop in price
doubt it'll happen this year but i remember walking into asda last year a week after WAW came out and seeing it for £25. Wouldn't be surprised if some places did offer it at a slightly discounted price in the run up to christmas though.
WAW was £25 on release date at Asda exclusively if I remember rightly, it will be interesting to see if one of the retailers plumps for super cheap for MW2 though at a £55rrp I think £35 is the cheapest it will get. Cheapest I have seen is from Toys R Us at £39.99.
dammit! from that headline I thought it was the PC version and was stoked but its for the 360 and mine isnt modded.
anyways here's a question, would it be very wrong if i dl the PC version when I have already pre-ordered the ps3 one? technically when you buy a game you're actually just buying the rights to play it so is the paid right for one version enough to play another? I dont care wat activision blizzard say but they cant expect us to buy it twice can they?
i dont think so some how. would be nice but it would be the same as going into game, buying all three copies for each system and only paying for one. like i said though, would be nice
dammit! from that headline I thought it was the PC version and was stoked but its for the 360 and mine isnt modded.
anyways here's a question, would it be very wrong if i dl the PC version when I have already pre-ordered the ps3 one? technically when you buy a game you're actually just buying the rights to play it so is the paid right for one version enough to play another? I dont care wat activision blizzard say but they cant expect us to buy it twice can they?
i dont think so some how. would be nice but it would be the same as going into game, buying all three copies for each system and only paying for one. like i said though, would be nice
Mate, you could buy 100 copies of the game then download a copy and they would still nail you if they found out. Piracy is dealt with in isolation end of.
dammit! from that headline I thought it was the PC version and was stoked but its for the 360 and mine isnt modded.
anyways here's a question, would it be very wrong if i dl the PC version when I have already pre-ordered the ps3 one? technically when you buy a game you're actually just buying the rights to play it so is the paid right for one version enough to play another? I dont care wat activision blizzard say but they cant expect us to buy it twice can they?
i dont think so some how. would be nice but it would be the same as going into game, buying all three copies for each system and only paying for one. like i said though, would be nice
Mate, you could buy 100 copies of the game then download a copy and they would still nail you if they found out. Piracy is dealt with in isolation end of.
dammit! from that headline I thought it was the PC version and was stoked but its for the 360 and mine isnt modded.
anyways here's a question, would it be very wrong if i dl the PC version when I have already pre-ordered the ps3 one? technically when you buy a game you're actually just buying the rights to play it so is the paid right for one version enough to play another? I dont care wat activision blizzard say but they cant expect us to buy it twice can they?
Legally no, Morally i can't see a problem with it. Up to you really.
Im basing it on the fact you can order it from just avout anywhere for 45 quid now, 10 quid below the RRP and the game isnt even out yet.
Maybe not in the new year but Feb-April time frame it will come down in price for sure.
Thing is, I am not in any hurry to get it as ive lots of other games to be getting on with and by that time hopefully the servers will not be so crowded either.
Im basing it on the fact you can order it from just avout anywhere for 45 quid now, 10 quid below the RRP and the game isnt even out yet.
Maybe not in the new year but Feb-April time frame it will come down in price for sure.
Thing is, I am not in any hurry to get it as ive lots of other games to be getting on with and by that time hopefully the servers will not be so crowded either.
That makes sense. It will interesting to see how the new ranking system will affect those picking the game up months after release i.e if you picked up COD4 now it would take like 1-2 weeks to get to 55 1st prestige and to be fair by level 30 it is a pretty level playing field. However the news and reports of the new 1 suggest that players who do well and speedily progress will have a distinct advantage over those coming in late!?
Here's a tip that has always helped me - keep an eye on classified ads (gumtree is a good one) and you can get great deals. I picked up COD4 for £7 (delivered to my door) about 4 months ago. I've got loads of games for under £5 including The Orange Box and Bioshock.
I dont think this game is going to go down in price for all those people thinking they will pick it up cheap next year, I mean CoD2 is still selling £20 second hand,CoD3 is like £25, CoD4 & 5 most retailers are still selling at £39.99 and CoD6 well i can see that price going up lol Im guessing even Tesco & Asda will be selling at full RRP after xmas when every where sells out as there is hardly any other game choices left to buy this side of xmas...
Im basing it on the fact you can order it from just avout anywhere for 45 quid now, 10 quid below the RRP and the game isnt even out yet.
Maybe not in the new year but Feb-April time frame it will come down in price for sure.
Thing is, I am not in any hurry to get it as ive lots of other games to be getting on with and by that time hopefully the servers will not be so crowded either.
That makes sense. It will interesting to see how the new ranking system will affect those picking the game up months after release i.e if you picked up COD4 now it would take like 1-2 weeks to get to 55 1st prestige and to be fair by level 30 it is a pretty level playing field. However the news and reports of the new 1 suggest that players who do well and speedily progress will have a distinct advantage over those coming in late!?
Interesting, Ill have to wait and see. Although even with Rank above 5 on the First meant red dot and once you have that, it doesnt matter on your rank. Playing alot, doesnt make you better or worse generally.
dammit! from that headline I thought it was the PC version and was stoked but its for the 360 and mine isnt modded.
anyways here's a question, would it be very wrong if i dl the PC version when I have already pre-ordered the ps3 one? technically when you buy a game you're actually just buying the rights to play it so is the paid right for one version enough to play another? I dont care wat activision blizzard say but they cant expect us to buy it twice can they?
i dont think so some how. would be nice but it would be the same as going into game, buying all three copies for each system and only paying for one. like i said though, would be nice
Mate, you could buy 100 copies of the game then download a copy and they would still nail you if they found out. Piracy is dealt with in isolation end of.
well i was reading something ages ago saying that if you dl a game but you already had it (same version though) then you couldn't be prosecuted, I'm sure they have tightened their a$$holes even more now.
See...I said that PC gamers brought it upon themselves!
I know I'm not speaking for the majority but nevertheless I doubt that so many companies would be moving towards a matchmaking model if it wasn't for people pirating and then playing on cracked servers!
er,you DO know it is the console version that's all over the torrents,right?
dammit! from that headline I thought it was the PC version and was stoked but its for the 360 and mine isnt modded.
anyways here's a question, would it be very wrong if i dl the PC version when I have already pre-ordered the ps3 one? technically when you buy a game you're actually just buying the rights to play it so is the paid right for one version enough to play another? I dont care wat activision blizzard say but they cant expect us to buy it twice can they?
i dont think so some how. would be nice but it would be the same as going into game, buying all three copies for each system and only paying for one. like i said though, would be nice
Mate, you could buy 100 copies of the game then download a copy and they would still nail you if they found out. Piracy is dealt with in isolation end of.
well i was reading something ages ago saying that if you dl a game but you already had it (same version though) then you couldn't be prosecuted, I'm sure they have tightened their a$$holes even more now.
i remember something like that too as it goes. its the same as backing up a music cd to play in your car i guess, its yours and as long as your not selling it on or giving it away to your mates then its ok. but im no lawyer so im just guessing.
How to play Modern Warfare (Pirate Copy)on the 360 Offline 1. Create a new live profile. If you use your current profile you will get banned for sure create a new one (Profile) that you will Never ! and I mean never use it to go online or Microsoft will bitch slap you into Offline play forever. 2. Play the game only using the afore mentioned profile and finally..... 3. Enjoy be happy that those Slimey thieving bastards at Activison never saw your hard earned cash I mean who in their right mind wants to pay the RRP of Modern Warfare 2. I have it and have played both multiplayer and Single Player modes and believe me it is not worth £49.99 or whatever the game will cost now and the week before modern warfare 3. Some might say that what Im proposing is wrong and to be honest they are right but screw morals I want to play games and thats just what im going to do Up yours Microsoft and Activision besides I don't feel guilty at allwhat money they lose on software sales they will more than make back in DLC Sales so in the end no one loses and if someone does lose it wont be me.....
How to play Modern Warfare (Pirate Copy)on the 360 Offline 1. Create a new live profile. If you use your current profile you will get banned for sure create a new one (Profile) that you will Never ! and I mean never use it to go online or Microsoft will bitch slap you into Offline play forever. 2. Play the game only using the afore mentioned profile and finally..... 3. Enjoy be happy that those Slimey thieving bastards at Activison never saw your hard earned cash I mean who in their right mind wants to pay the RRP of Modern Warfare 2. I have it and have played both multiplayer and Single Player modes and believe me it is not worth £49.99 or whatever the game will cost now and the week before modern warfare 3. Some might say that what Im proposing is wrong and to be honest they are right but screw morals I want to play games and thats just what im going to do Up yours Microsoft and Activision besides I don't feel guilty at allwhat money they lose on software sales they will more than make back in DLC Sales so in the end no one loses and if someone does lose it wont be me.....
How to play Modern Warfare (Pirate Copy)on the 360 Offline 1. Create a new live profile. If you use your current profile you will get banned for sure create a new one (Profile) that you will Never ! and I mean never use it to go online or Microsoft will bitch slap you into Offline play forever. 2. Play the game only using the afore mentioned profile and finally..... 3. Enjoy be happy that those Slimey thieving bastards at Activison never saw your hard earned cash I mean who in their right mind wants to pay the RRP of Modern Warfare 2. I have it and have played both multiplayer and Single Player modes and believe me it is not worth £49.99 or whatever the game will cost now and the week before modern warfare 3. Some might say that what Im proposing is wrong and to be honest they are right but screw morals I want to play games and thats just what im going to do Up yours Microsoft and Activision besides I don't feel guilty at allwhat money they lose on software sales they will more than make back in DLC Sales so in the end no one loses and if someone does lose it wont be me.....
How to play Modern Warfare (Pirate Copy)on the 360 Offline 1. Create a new live profile. If you use your current profile you will get banned for sure create a new one (Profile) that you will Never ! and I mean never use it to go online or Microsoft will bitch slap you into Offline play forever. 2. Play the game only using the afore mentioned profile and finally..... 3. Enjoy be happy that those Slimey thieving bastards at Activison never saw your hard earned cash I mean who in their right mind wants to pay the RRP of Modern Warfare 2. I have it and have played both multiplayer and Single Player modes and believe me it is not worth £49.99 or whatever the game will cost now and the week before modern warfare 3. Some might say that what Im proposing is wrong and to be honest they are right but screw morals I want to play games and thats just what im going to do Up yours Microsoft and Activision besides I don't feel guilty at allwhat money they lose on software sales they will more than make back in DLC Sales so in the end no one loses and if someone does lose it wont be me.....
so how did you play the multiplayer if you didnt go online? split screen or lan isnt as much fun as online. well maybe lan is... just curious. i do agree with you on the price though, didnt they annouce dlc already too? isnt that a bit of a slap in the face. its like saying thanks for all the money oh and by the way this is what you'll be giving us again quite soon.
lol KFD and Jazzy been bustin me up over a spelling mistake. they didnt like the fact im not a comunist like them and know my own mind, so they just ignored every thing trying to be said and when they had no well thought out defence they attacked my spelling of the word profit lol. According to them the devils in the detail and im satan helping developers raise the price of games...go figure lol
Is that so? Do tell! I would just love to read your definition of "Communism". As for speaking your mind, apparently that is a virtue you reserve for yourself but do not deem fitting for others, but then again I don't imagine it's convenient for your self-martyr act to acknowledge that you are guilty of the very thing you accuse Jazzy and I of. As for you being "Satan"? Please; you flatter yourself. Poor form, Moss, poor form indeed.
On topic: It's ever so good to see once again why the PC must be the boogeyman of piracy! Surely piracy doesn't happen on consoles?! Oh wait...Except for pirated copies being ready on the Xbox 360 for both "Borderlands" and now apparently "MW2" a week before official release. And the icing on the cake? Whatever measures they are using still won't stop the pirates. Bravo! This latest development comes as no surprise.
See...I said that PC gamers brought it upon themselves!
I know I'm not speaking for the majority but nevertheless I doubt that so many companeis would be moving towards a matchmaking model if it wasn't for people pirating and then playing on cracked servers!
Did you actually bother to read the article? The pirated version is for the Xbox 360!
dammit! from that headline I thought it was the PC version and was stoked but its for the 360 and mine isnt modded.
anyways here's a question, would it be very wrong if i dl the PC version when I have already pre-ordered the ps3 one? technically when you buy a game you're actually just buying the rights to play it so is the paid right for one version enough to play another? I dont care wat activision blizzard say but they cant expect us to buy it twice can they?
Depends on the laws of the country you live in. In at least one country I know of it isn't illegal to download things; it is only illegal to make material available to others for downloading - that particular law is about to change in a few months though. As for your question, just because you have pre-ordered a user's license for the game on one platform will likely not grant you legal access to a user license of the same game on another platform unless specifically stated so by the IP holder. If you want to legally play the PC version you will have to buy it through a legal vendor, or have someone buy it through a legal vendor on your behalf. The same applies to the game on the other platforms.
Here we go again. Riddle me this, if your soo adamant that your not going to buy this game why the hell are you always on MW2 threads complaining about it and questioning other people's comments in such a matter of fact way? Must be that your little revolutionary petition is looking a little spbottom and your looking for new comrades psml. Ive pre ordered it but theres no way i would pay 55 for it. But i defend the right for people to pay what they wish and not get ridiculed by you for it!!get a life.
F.Y.I. pirate copies have got to be uploaded by a pc user anyway, so if it wasnt for pirate pc users there wouldnt be pirate xbox games. The big hurdle for pirate ps3 games is the cost of RW Bluray discs. B.t.w this isnt a rant but another attempt to inform u of the state of play, disregard and read what you like into it as you wish.
Here we go again. Riddle me this, if your soo adamant that your not going to buy this game why the hell are you always on MW2 threads complaining about it and questioning other people's comments in such a matter of fact way? Must be that your little revolutionary petition is looking a little spbottom and your looking for new comrades psml. Ive pre ordered it but theres no way i would pay 55 for it. But i defend the right for people to pay what they wish and not get ridiculed by you for it!!get a life.
F.Y.I. pirate copies have got to be uploaded by a pc user anyway, so if it wasnt for pirate pc users there wouldnt be pirate xbox games. The big hurdle for pirate ps3 games is the cost of RW Bluray discs. B.t.w this isnt a rant but another attempt to inform u of the state of play, disregard and read what you like into it as you wish.
Here we go again indeed! Still playing the self-pity card in the hopes that it will absolve you of your own instigation of these continued te-a-tes of ours. Oh well. Scum will be scum I suppose.
As for "always" being on "MW2" threads, you will find that "always" is an awfully absolutist concept and is liable to render you claim invalid by that very same reason. As to my continued interest in "MW2" threads, I consider it worthwhile to keep myself informed of what transpires on matters I am interested in. That it may also end up providing more than one point-of-view to some readers whom may not already have made up their minds is a bonus. Tell me again, Moss, if you are so content to play the game and have already decided to buy it then what does it matter that I and others choose a different course of action? Why does it bother you so? Must we all march in lock step? Oh wait. That would be too fascist for you, and yet it if the shoe (or should that be jackboot?) fits...
P.S. News flash for you "genius": console games are made on PCs, so of course PCs will be involved at some point in the process. This is further exacerbated by the continued imitation of PCs by consoles. As for disregard of others, I'm afraid I can't take credit for dominating that scene. You've gone and filled that particular stage show up all by yourself. An encore won't be necessary and hopefully your particular show musn't go on.
If they released the game as soon as it was finished then this wouldn't be the case. This is one of the most hyped games ever it was inevitable that it was going on torrent sites.
lol u do make me laugh u pompus tw@. as usual everything ive said has been disregarded and then you take everything i said about you and tried to make it fit me psml apart from now you claim im a fascist haha. f.y.i. im a Libertarian and as ive said to you god knows how many times people will make up there own minds without you ridiculing them for not believing the same as you. Where did you get self pitty from you plank? wasn't being self pittying just showing i didnt have to attack you for you to attack me. And it worked silly little boy. And if you had read and absorbed you would of seen i said there was no way i would pay 55 for it so unless every shop sells it at rrp (which very very few will) i wont be buying it. All the rrp price is there for is a guide for retailers aslong as they can cover the VAT and even just make a small profit they are happy. In the case of supermarkets they even don't mind a small loss because they know people will come in and buy there weekly shop aswell. with that in mind your little ANTI CAPITALISM AND WAR ON RRP rants sound hollow and worthless.Now run along your mommys calling you.
b.t.w cvg if you feel the need to censor peoples posts change it to a word of the same meaning eg change spår...se for thin not just spBOTTOM made me laugh though when i realised what your censorship program did though
FASCISM ?noun 1.(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. 2.(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism. 3.(initial capital letter) a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922?43.
COMMUNISIM ?noun 1.a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state. 2.(often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. 3.(initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.
ironically you fit both of these ideals with your suppresing attacks lol.
LIBERTARIAN ?noun 1.a person who advocates liberty, esp. with regard to thought or conduct. 2.a person who maintains the doctrine of free will or as an adjective 3.advocating liberty or conforming to principles of liberty. 4.maintaining the doctrine of free will.
And thats my camp. feeling a bit silly now are we?? and it is in my thoughts that you should go forth (I) and multiply (V)
You gotta love the argument that it's Activision's fault that there are pirated copies because they did not release it 'as soon' as it was ready, yeah that is how commerce works, get a product ready then just get it on the shelf the next day As for the RRP, it's £5 more than any other XBox game released!!!!!. Now I don't like it and anyone stupid enough to pay that should be steralised, in fact you will probably have to look damn hard to find it at £55. However I have had more game time out of COD4 than any other game (and I won't be the only one by some distance) and with all the awards and figures it has achieved it is hardly surprising that a price hike appeared.
To suggest it's 'ok' to pirate it just because it is more expensive, again in reality it won't as it won't be the 1st £45 people pay for a game, is simply pathetic. Those pirating should just admit they are thieving f**ks driving prices up and making game makers change systems/online playgrounds to combat them. Lets not hide behind the demented facade of fighting for the poor consumer, it is bulls**t.
Now, I saw someone from france playing Modern Warfare2 on Xbox LIVE not to long ago. I sent him something about it and he said "A couple of friends and myself also have it" Is this just another France ODST leak?
Now, I saw someone from france playing Modern Warfare2 on Xbox LIVE not to long ago. I sent him something about it and he said "A couple of friends and myself also have it" Is this just another France ODST leak?
KK i hear you loud and clear mate. The way i look at it is if i was to stay at home for 2 nights and play a game online with friends,have a few cans,indulge in a smoke i will have more than saved the price in the game so i really wouldnt be out of pocket anyway. But like you say will be getting alot more than 2 nights worth out of it.People who boycott a game that they want to play need to get there head out of there spBOTTOM,stop all this citizen Smith BS and "enjoy yourself, it's later than you think"
Got a question. The game isnt out until the 10/12th or 13th of November steam depending. How the blazes have they pirated it already. Now if its released somewhere else fair enough but if not. Then I think companys complaining about piracy needs to look at its own staff!!
Got a question. The game isnt out until the 10/12th or 13th of November steam depending. How the blazes have they pirated it already. Now if its released somewhere else fair enough but if not. Then I think company complain
Got a question. The game isnt out until the 10/12th or 13th of November steam depending. How the blazes have they pirated it already. Now if its released somewhere else fair enough but if not. Then I think company complain
There are already copies everywhere. I pre-ordered this from GAME and because of the postal strikes they are sending them out by courier. I got a mail last night saying that it's already been dispatched, so obviously these discs are with retailers (or at least their distro companies) a good week or two before release day. All it takes is one dodgy warehouseman and away you go.
Got a question. The game isnt out until the 10/12th or 13th of November steam depending. How the blazes have they pirated it already. Now if its released somewhere else fair enough but if not. Then I think companys complaining about piracy needs to look at its own staff!!
A game of this magnitude would have to be manufactured and shipped to other countries and warehouses presumably 4-6 weeks before release, so as you can imagine there would be hundreds probably thousands of other companies that would be involved in the distribution of this game, so its impossible to stop this falling into the wrong hands before release.
lol u do make me laugh u pompus tw@. as usual everything ive said has been disregarded and then you take everything i said about you and tried to make it fit me psml apart from now you claim im a fascist haha. f.y.i. im a Libertarian and as ive said to you god knows how many times people will make up there own minds without you ridiculing them for not believing the same as you. Where did you get self pitty from you plank? wasn't being self pittying just showing i didnt have to attack you for you to attack me. And it worked silly little boy. And if you had read and absorbed you would of seen i said there was no way i would pay 55 for it so unless every shop sells it at rrp (which very very few will) i wont be buying it. All the rrp price is there for is a guide for retailers aslong as they can cover the VAT and even just make a small profit they are happy. In the case of supermarkets they even don't mind a small loss because they know people will come in and buy there weekly shop aswell. with that in mind your little ANTI CAPITALISM AND WAR ON RRP rants sound hollow and worthless.Now run along your mommys calling you.
b.t.w cvg if you feel the need to censor peoples posts change it to a word of the same meaning eg change spår...se for thin not just spBOTTOM made me laugh though when i realised what your censorship program did though
It's quite simple, Moss: when you actually post something that isn't disingenuous, isn't a double standard, and actively contributes to the progress of the matter at hand, then I may decide not to disregard it. Hopefully some day you will get over your self-serving hyperbole and the aforementined will become a reality. I won't be holding my breath however.
You consistently prove yourself lacking while putting up a great effort to try and ridicule and silence others whom do not share your views. I'm simply returning the favour; reap what you sow afterall, although I suppose it would be too much to expect you to realise the lesson here and take it to heart. Ignorance is curable; stupidity isn't.
See...I said that PC gamers brought it upon themselves!
I know I'm not speaking for the majority but nevertheless I doubt that so many companeis would be moving towards a matchmaking model if it wasn't for people pirating and then playing on cracked servers!
Did you actually bother to read the article? The pirated version is for the Xbox 360!
Even worse...the pestilence that plagues the PC is emigrating to the consoles!
This in my less-than-humble opinion is all the more reason to adopt a console model and stamp out these scroungers...
FASCISM ?noun 1.(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. 2.(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism. 3.(initial capital letter) a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922?43.
COMMUNISIM ?noun 1.a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state. 2.(often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. 3.(initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.
ironically you fit both of these ideals with your suppresing attacks lol.
LIBERTARIAN ?noun 1.a person who advocates liberty, esp. with regard to thought or conduct. 2.a person who maintains the doctrine of free will or as an adjective 3.advocating liberty or conforming to principles of liberty. 4.maintaining the doctrine of free will.
And thats my camp. feeling a bit silly now are we?? and it is in my thoughts that you should go forth (I) and multiply (V)
Why Moss, you actually know how to look definitions up! Bravo. Now, if you want pages long, in-depth definitions of those political ideologies you could do worse than to invest in a political dictionary; it will bestow a far deeper understanding of the topic matter, along with relevant historical examples. What those brief defintions failed to cover, is that fascism as a system places the needs and aspirations of the state (not just the leader,) above the needs of the individual citizen whose sole purpose is to ensure the objectives of a fascist state are achieved. Fascist goals by nature also tend do be militaristic. Furthermore, communism is - in theory at least - a classless society where only workers exist and all are held to be equal. Hence it's appeal to millions of people over the years. That physical expression of communism failed to live up to the ideals is another matter (enter Marxism-Leninism, Stalinism and Maoism).
Oh, and for the record, I don't see much use in labelling oneself as being completely of one particular political ideology. If you look around you, and within you, it is likely you will find that most people subscribe to various political values that do not all neatly fit within any one political persuasion. This would be where nuance comes in to the picture. If that is an unfamiliar concept to you, then by all means look the definition of that word up as well.
Perhaps it has eluded your attention, yet while communism and fascism originate from opposite sides of the political specttrum (the former on the left and the latter on the right - the "left/right" setup originated from the 18th Century French parliament), the two camps end up utilising many of the same means of control and expression of their value sets. While you may claim to be a libertarian, your actions and words in this thread and others do not measure up to libertarian ideals. Your continued attempts at feigning innocence are puerile and false. That you either won't, or can't, acknowledge this leaves you in a sorry state since it implies that you are either a reprehensible charlatan, or that you are dim witted. Have your pick.
See...I said that PC gamers brought it upon themselves!
I know I'm not speaking for the majority but nevertheless I doubt that so many companeis would be moving towards a matchmaking model if it wasn't for people pirating and then playing on cracked servers!
Did you actually bother to read the article? The pirated version is for the Xbox 360!
Even worse...the pestilence that plagues the PC is emigrating to the consoles!
This in my less-than-humble opinion is all the more reason to adopt a console model and stamp out these scroungers...
Hm. Depends on whether one considers consoles to have been the first to truly create a gaming scene (think the Spectrum and C64, etc.) or not. If so, then one could argue that piracy migrated from consoles to the PC. Either way, piracy certainly exists and it is not limited to the PC. From what I understand the PS3 is currently the only console not to be heavily plagued by piracy. Whether that will last remains to be seen.
I used to be vehemently opposed to piracy, yet after having a DVD drive destroyed by the DRM that "Crysis" came with, and ultimately having to resort to a crack to get my legal version of said game to work, I'm a lot less sympathetic towards the companies and more sympathetic towards some, but not all, of the activities of certain pirates. That I had the new replacement DVD drive destroyed later on by another game's DRM certainly didn't help matters any.
When I used to work at GAME(Electronics Boutique at the time), we used to get some right dodgy people coming in to buy Action Replay's for the PS1. We were obliged to ask them what they were using it for... The reply was this... 'To play my copied games'. F**king retards. Suffice to say, they would have to go elsewhere for their little gadget of piracy.
Piracy had been rife on consoles for ages now. As soon as cartridged were dumped in favour of CD's. Newsgroups and torrent sites are full of PC AND console games right now.
lol once again you have lost the plot, you continue to ridicule other people's beliefs and think your ohh soo clever,and the fact that you continue to bang on about "fighting for something you believe in" sounds very admirable but what is it again your fighting for?? oh yes all games RECOMMENDED retail price to fit your own pricing structure that you deem to be right and any idea of a free market and Capitalism can go hang.COMMIE IDEAL
You continue to miss quote me and twist and turn statements to your own end....wait a minute your surname ain't Blair is it psml. Tell you what, go find a quote from me where i order you to stop saying what you believe in. I just advise you that your little recruitment to the gamers Liberation front is falling on Deaf ears because what people want is WHAT PEOPLE WANT. If i had a game coming out that is forcast to smash all previous sales then i would be making the most of it aswell (and so would you if you ever had the chance).
B.T.W. look around you, we do live in a fascist state anyway. Laws are put inplace to serve corporations and the state. The people have no rights only privileges, which are being taken away at an alarming rate. Habeas corpus has been effectively wiped out in the u.k. due to the fake war on terror and we are now, in terms of law the 51st state of America. 9/11 was Bushes Reichtag burning. We are in 1936 Germany now and by the time people wake up and realise this it will be too late! Freedom and democracy are polar opposites, inbeing that in a democracy at the most 49% of the people are inslaved, but even that aint true because to be elected to parliament you need money nowadays not ideas, and thats where the corporations and world bankers with their i scratch your back and you scratch mine tactics come in. Your votes not worth the paper it's writ on, and in the case of the E.U. it's been done away with altogether. The second world war was THE last big war of ideals, we live in a world of 1 ideological idea. The N.W.O. where everyone will be given an id card/number (cause IBM's tattooing of numbers on peoples arms brings back too many bad memories and every aspect of your life will be tracked. Money will soon have rfid chips and every transaction will be accounted for and traceable, so say goodbye to anysort of resistance (pirating or otherwise) and if they really had their way youd be chipped at birth,and if you played up against the system they would just need to switch off your chip!!
I just find with so many injustices in the world, pretending to be a warrior for the people to save an imaginary tenner on a game is abit of a waste of time considering how well read/travelled and decorated you claim to be.
Obviously your just going to come back with your usual "where did that come from and you wrong"(or scum was it lol) but your intitled to and i do enjoy reading your drivel.
B.T.W. Mussolini mused that Fascism Should of been named Corporatism because it's the perfect marriage between corporations and the state. And that many Ukrainians and other Baltic states saw the Nazis/National Socialist German Workers Party (sounds an awful lot like new Labour) as liberators of them from the Soviets. Its all down to what side of the coin your on.
P.S. all Social ideas wether they be Communism,Fascism or Capitalism are born out of free thinking people who believe rightly or wrongly there is another way of doing things. So yes all these do come under the banner of Libertarianism, its when those ideas become totaliterian that they take on an identity of there own and threaten other peoples freedoms and become a danger to humanity. And when the one world goverment comes along,what will happen to your freedoms then?
lol once again you have lost the plot, you continue to ridicule other people's beliefs and think your ohh soo clever,and the fact that you continue to bang on about "fighting for something you believe in" sounds very admirable but what is it again your fighting for?? oh yes all games RECOMMENDED retail price to fit your own pricing structure that you deem to be right and any idea of a free market and Capitalism can go hang.COMMIE IDEAL
You continue to miss quote me and twist and turn statements to your own end....wait a minute your surname ain't Blair is it psml. Tell you what, go find a quote from me where i order you to stop saying what you believe in. I just advise you that your little recruitment to the gamers Liberation front is falling on Deaf ears because what people want is WHAT PEOPLE WANT. If i had a game coming out that is forcast to smash all previous sales then i would be making the most of it aswell (and so would you if you ever had the chance).
B.T.W. look around you, we do live in a fascist state anyway. Laws are put inplace to serve corporations and the state. The people have no rights only privileges, which are being taken away at an alarming rate. Habeas corpus has been effectively wiped out in the u.k. due to the fake war on terror and we are now, in terms of law the 51st state of America. 9/11 was Bushes Reichtag burning. We are in 1936 Germany now and by the time people wake up and realise this it will be too late! Freedom and democracy are polar opposites, inbeing that in a democracy at the most 49% of the people are inslaved, but even that aint true because to be elected to parliament you need money nowadays not ideas, and thats where the corporations and world bankers with their i scratch your back and you scratch mine tactics come in. Your votes not worth the paper it's writ on, and in the case of the E.U. it's been done away with altogether. The second world war was THE last big war of ideals, we live in a world of 1 ideological idea. The N.W.O. where everyone will be given an id card/number (cause IBM's tattooing of numbers on peoples arms brings back too many bad memories and every aspect of your life will be tracked. Money will soon have rfid chips and every transaction will be accounted for and traceable, so say goodbye to anysort of resistance (pirating or otherwise) and if they really had their way youd be chipped at birth,and if you played up against the system they would just need to switch off your chip!!
I just find with so many injustices in the world, pretending to be a warrior for the people to save an imaginary tenner on a game is abit of a waste of time considering how well read/travelled and decorated you claim to be.
Obviously your just going to come back with your usual "where did that come from and you wrong"(or scum was it lol) but your intitled to and i do enjoy reading your drivel.
B.T.W. Mussolini mused that Fascism Should of been named Corporatism because it's the perfect marriage between corporations and the state. And that many Ukrainians and other Baltic states saw the Nazis/National Socialist German Workers Party (sounds an awful lot like new Labour) as liberators of them from the Soviets. Its all down to what side of the coin your on.
P.S. all Social ideas wether they be Communism,Fascism or Capitalism are born out of free thinking people who believe rightly or wrongly there is another way of doing things. So yes all these do come under the banner of Libertarianism, its when those ideas become totaliterian that they take on an identity of there own and threaten other peoples freedoms and become a danger to humanity. And when the one world goverment comes along,what will happen to your freedoms then?
Finally! You have contributed something that I at least find interesting (others may not share our apparently mutual interest in politics and real politik). First off however, I had "MW2" pre-ordered at a price I was okay with paying, so for me this isn't just about the price hike (it doesn't help however). For me this is a matter of principle. While it may just be one game on one occasion, it bears worth mentioning that many drops can become an ocean - this goes both ways for both perceived positives and negatives. On the positive side of things in this case, if I play my part in this larger scheme of things, and others play their parts, then change may come about. Whether it's the change I was looking for is another matter. Perhaps change won't come at all, yet if I do not actively try to influence the matter then I throw away what may be my best chance at influencing events in a manner I desire. The same goes for everyone else irrespective of which outcome they desire. I've stated it before and I'll state it again: if you won't stand up for yourself then whom will? Just about the only thing an apathetic attitude ensures is defeat, barring some profound external influence. I am one person and I have backed up my objections with relevant and meaningful action on this occasion. I am not alone. It is my hope and desire that many more join us of their own free volition.
Now to the politics! You and I actually agree on a good number of things based upon what you wrote in your latest post in this thread. There are specifics where I am not in agreement with you, at least not completely, yet even on those points I entertain similar thoughts on the matter although I'm less inclined to write off the whole affair as hopeless. History is full of dark days where I can only imagine it would have been all too easy for the people living then to throw up their hands in despair and surrender. Thank whatever powers there may be that some of those people didn't. Seemingly insurmountable odds have been overcome. Seemingly invincible enemies have been successfully resisted, and more, they have also been beaten back and revealed not to be invincible. So while I agree with you that there is corruption, erosion of liberties and freedoms, that liberal democracy is increasingly illiberal in a number of countries around the globe, that special interest groups wield disproportionate amounts of power and unduly influence the state of all society in order to benefit a few at the cost of many, I do not consider it a fight not worth fighting. Indeed, precisely because of what is at stake - both on the small issues as well as the large issues - it is in my opinion all the more pressing that resistance be mounted, that alternatives be presented both on matters of policy, philosophy, ethics, behaviour and yes, also in regards to gaming companies behaviour and more besides. After all, an ocean is made up of many drops; I am one and I am not alone.
I do know where your coming from but i got to say this if 2 million people can march on westminister and STILL have no voice about the war in the middle east then what chance you and a few thousand on a piece of paper going to make to activison? (both are money driven)
It seems to me your fighting a 'war' on 2 fronts here 1 on price and 2 on the server issue (have no idea about that as i dont play on pc so cant comment on it too much)
now lets hypothesise that the game developer knew that a faction of their online community would be up in arms about what course of action they have took towards cheats,thieves,modders and whatever else as i say i dont know. so to cover there estimated losses they jacked up the price? abit like paying higher costs in a shop to cover what they lost through theft but harsher because they are covering estimated losses rather than actual losses. kinda like a double bluff lol
on to the fact im pessimistic. im not quiet the opposite infact im pro active in my defence of peoples liberties but when it comes to games i just like to play. rather casual as it goes last time i brought a game was just before last xmas when i purchased W@W and fallout 3. paid 25 each which i didnt think was bad, plus it got me back into COD games which i hadnt played since the first 1 on ps1. but due to my pro activeness im now under house curfew between 7 till 7 and am looking forward to this game to see me through till january when i will be free again. plus it will be a little insightfull to see how many will be shoutin happy new year as they blow off the next head they see lol
I do know where your coming from but i got to say this if 2 million people can march on westminister and STILL have no voice about the war in the middle east then what chance you and a few thousand on a piece of paper going to make to activison? (both are money driven)
It seems to me your fighting a 'war' on 2 fronts here 1 on price and 2 on the server issue (have no idea about that as i dont play on pc so cant comment on it too much)
now lets hypothesise that the game developer knew that a faction of their online community would be up in arms about what course of action they have took towards cheats,thieves,modders and whatever else as i say i dont know. so to cover there estimated losses they jacked up the price? abit like paying higher costs in a shop to cover what they lost through theft but harsher because they are covering estimated losses rather than actual losses. kinda like a double bluff lol
on to the fact im pessimistic. im not quiet the opposite infact im pro active in my defence of peoples liberties but when it comes to games i just like to play. rather casual as it goes last time i brought a game was just before last xmas when i purchased W@W and fallout 3. paid 25 each which i didnt think was bad, plus it got me back into COD games which i hadnt played since the first 1 on ps1. but due to my pro activeness im now under house curfew between 7 till 7 and am looking forward to this game to see me through till january when i will be free again. plus it will be a little insightfull to see how many will be shoutin happy new year as they blow off the next head they see lol
While there is the potential risk of stretching oneself thin over multiple simultaneous conflicts, I have a strong constitution where it pertains to continued, determined resistance psychologically and physically if need be.
As previously stated, I'm not so much focused on the price of "MW2". It's a (somewhat) free market and Activision can ask what they wish for in terms of price. If it's deemed too expensive by the masses then they stand to lose money since their product may not shift enough units (although I doubt that to be the case on this occasion). Besides, different retailers often carry discount prices and eventually the game will become available second-hand where the price will often be lower.
The main bone of contention I have with Activision and IW lies with their decision to cripple the online experience for PC gamers and then pretend that they are doing us a favour. They have offered up rather weak justifications in my opinion, and I strongly suspect it has far less to do with offering a fair playing field and quality service for all their fans, but much more to do with the ability for them to now control all online content for the game. For a PC crowd that's used to being able to create their own mods and host much larger online matches where they can choose exactly whom they wish to play with if they so desire, as opposed to being randomly assigned to a game, this is a step backwards. I am of the opinion that many companies can not be trusted if left to their own devices - the same can be said of various governments. Without direct accountability and with no "vote" to cast in the decision making process other than to vote with my wallet (or buy enough stock in Activision to influence the outcome), I have no reason to genuinely believe that Activision and IW are acting in the best interest of the PC gamers, thus I have objected by the most direct legal means I currently have at my disposal (i.e. boycotting their product). Quite the contrary. This is another move in a long chain of events designed to further infringe upon existing customer rights while granting the companies in question yet another potential source of income based on content that only they have the power to introduce to the game.
I will not, and can not, in good conscience actively contribute funding to this ongoing assault on customer rights. Nor will I tolerate some boardroom of chimps throwing random "Decision of The Day" darts around dictating to me when, where and how I can play a game, physical hardware and software limitations excluded. If that ultimately may have to result in an untimely demise of my gaming hobby then so be it. Dramatic though it may sound, I do on some level perceive this as a war of sorts.
Much as PC gamers are prepared to sever their noses in spite of their angry red faces...it seems that IW feel the same way about their cause and are not prepared to budge!
They have invested much money and time in the development of said title and seem prepared to break a few eggs in the making of this anti-piracy omelette...
Much as PC gamers are prepared to sever their noses in spite of their angry red faces...it seems that IW feel the same way about their cause and are not prepared to budge!
They have invested much money and time in the development of said title and seem prepared to break a few eggs in the making of this anti-piracy omelette...
That as it may be, the consumers have the ultimate ace in the hole since they don't need IW's product. IW on the other hand does need our money. However, with the cross platform approach I do not expect them to go bankrupt just yet, but if that is what it takes to get the message across then let the culling commence!
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