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StonecoldMC
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 Posted: 9 Oct 09 8:29 am |
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Good to know that Natal is going to get the support it needs from some big 3rd paty Devs, this is supposed to be Rares baby though and I kind of want to see what there doing more than any others.
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WHERESMYMONKEY
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 8:46 am |
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from the last trailer i saw for Natal it looks like they're working on some kind of cool Godzillaeque monster game where you smash cities.
It'll be interesting to see what the big devs make of it. Hopefully we'll finally see the full potential of motion control, the problem with the wii is that a lot of the big devs wouldn't touch it becasue it isn't capable grpahically. thats not a problem with natal.
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Mark240473
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 9:00 am |
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Toot, toot! Get on the hype train! Chuggachuggachugga......
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DrRickDagless MD
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 9:01 am |
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It seems the devs are talking about Natal like everyone is suddenly going to have it and it'll be worth there time developing controls for it.
But if it doesn't sell the numbers it'll die slowly.
I really like the idea of natal but I feel that developers will crowbar it in at the beginning.
Games like Fable, Viva pinata and RTS games could really benefit from this technology as long as its implemented right. Sadly I know that devs are going to use it in ways that are idiotic and counter intuitive to how we play games like FPS's or sports games.
Anyone who has played wii sports can tell you that you change your wild style to the most basic motions after a couple of plays and that motion control in any form fouls up at some point. When I play a game I want controls that are tight and fair. Random movements always seep into motion control which is alright for the casual games but end up ruining that high score you are going for or your perfect round in others.
I like my button controller to do the important stuff that you need to work right and the motion controller to do stuff like menu or object interaction on which my charaters life doesn't depend.
The difference is huge as i'll quite happily play through a level that I messed up but would want to snap the game in half if it was because of a doggy movement or poor control implementation.
I want natal to succeed but the devs need to be very careful if thay want my money.
On another note, how long before GTA lets you fondle a boob? The papers will love that. |
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 9:40 am |
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| Mark240473 wrote: | Toot, toot! Get on the hype train! Chuggachuggachugga......
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Are the Sony love orbs running late again?...
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 9:43 am |
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| DrRickDagless MD wrote: |
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On another note, how long before GTA lets you fondle a boob? The papers will love that. |
Not just the papers! 
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melodyhh
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 9:54 am |
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paul_brown940
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 10:33 am |
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The only use I can see in an fps that shouldn't get you killed would be leaning to look around corners.
Maybe if your controlling a squad you could point in the direction you want your guys to move, or hold your hand up if you want them to stop (stealthy gameplay when you don't want to speak). The problem with both of these though is you have to move your hand from the controller at which point you'd probably get killed. |
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Mark240473
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 10:38 am |
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| The_KFD_Case wrote: | | DrRickDagless MD wrote: |
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On another note, how long before GTA lets you fondle a boob? The papers will love that. |
Not just the papers! |
Well, you could pretend to fondle a boob any time you want. You don't need Natal to feel a tit!
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kimoak
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 10:39 am |
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| paul_brown940 wrote: | The only use I can see in an fps that shouldn't get you killed would be leaning to look around corners.
Maybe if your controlling a squad you could point in the direction you want your guys to move, or hold your hand up if you want them to stop (stealthy gameplay when you don't want to speak). The problem with both of these though is you have to move your hand from the controller at which point you'd probably get killed. |
Hand gestures would be a cool idea to give orders to team members when you need to be quiet. Leaning another. I can see that as a good start.
Good to see support for Natal though. I think all it needs is plenty of support and it will succeed. |
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JuiKuen
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 11:06 am |
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Well, its not like the controls in games like Gears of War were all that great, so I'm not expecting much from 'Epic's' promises 
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only_777
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 11:21 am |
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Heard all this before when Sony made the eyetoy, yes Natal is more powerful but like the eyetoy (and the camera already on the 360) it'll only get used to take pictures of your face and stick them on people in a game!
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MrPirtniw
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 11:27 am |
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(Shrugs) I don't have any problem with them... maybe you just suck?
I was a little sceptical when I first learned of Natal- but as the days go by I'm actually looking forward to it more and more. You DEFINATELY have to be able to pistol whip people with your own arms/controller- extreme satisfaction.
There's still plenty of scope for this to go wrong, but I'm I have my fingers crossed. I'll leave the moaning to 'the usual suspects'.
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altitude2k
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 11:32 am |
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| kimoak wrote: | | paul_brown940 wrote: | The only use I can see in an fps that shouldn't get you killed would be leaning to look around corners.
Maybe if your controlling a squad you could point in the direction you want your guys to move, or hold your hand up if you want them to stop (stealthy gameplay when you don't want to speak). The problem with both of these though is you have to move your hand from the controller at which point you'd probably get killed. |
Hand gestures would be a cool idea to give orders to team members when you need to be quiet. Leaning another. I can see that as a good start.
Good to see support for Natal though. I think all it needs is plenty of support and it will succeed. |
Head-tracking for psuedo 3D would work very well in a 3rd person shooter, so long as it's for visual purposes only and not controlling the aiming.
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FiltyMonkey
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 11:44 am |
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Please God, stop using the noise 'meh'. It's so...ugh
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altitude2k
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 11:47 am |
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| FiltyMonkey wrote: | | Please God, stop using the noise 'meh'. It's so...ugh |
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 1:21 pm |
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| Mark240473 wrote: | | The_KFD_Case wrote: | | DrRickDagless MD wrote: |
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On another note, how long before GTA lets you fondle a boob? The papers will love that. |
Not just the papers! |
Well, you could pretend to fondle a boob any time you want. You don't need Natal to feel a tit! |
Too true! It's also possible to have conversations with t**s of various hues and colours (pun fully intended), just don't expect anything intelligent in response. (And that's not a dig at you, btw)
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dorian2011
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 1:26 pm |
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""Heard all this before when Sony made the eyetoy, yes Natal is more powerful but like the eyetoy (and the camera already on the 360) it'll only get used to take pictures of your face and stick them on people in a game""
can no one else tell that this is starsail? haha
one word for that LOSER |
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dorian2011
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 1:30 pm |
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that was a referrence to only_777 |
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lonewolf2002
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 1:37 pm |
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| FiltyMonkey wrote: | | Please God, stop using the noise 'meh'. It's so...ugh |
Dont you mean "It's so...meh"
/meh runs
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Rob S London
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 1:54 pm |
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Don't forget the voice recognition, some games could be controller led but with voice control for some elements.
You could shout silly GRAW-type stuff like 'bogey on your six' to your squad!
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Asinine
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 2:21 pm |
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Wave your hands in the air and get no feedback for your actions - great 
I am not convinced |
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only_777
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 3:37 pm |
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| dorian2011 wrote: | ""Heard all this before when Sony made the eyetoy, yes Natal is more powerful but like the eyetoy (and the camera already on the 360) it'll only get used to take pictures of your face and stick them on people in a game""
can no one else tell that this is starsail? haha
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Er no this is only_777, remember me? The one that blew the lid on T2G. See my youtube page:
http://www.youtube.com/user/onlytriple7
One word for people like you, Idiot.
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JuiKuen
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 8:17 pm |
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| FiltyMonkey wrote: | | Please God, stop using the noise 'meh'. It's so...ugh |
Sorry. I don't normally use it (I never say it when speaking). I just couldn't think at that point what to say.
To be honest, I don't like it either as it reminds me of this boring guy who always says it. I'll get it removed |
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adminCVG
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| Posted: 9 Oct 09 8:45 pm |
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all are non natal suited games will have forsed not suited natal controls WHAT A JOKE
FPS NATAL = FAIL 3RD PESON ACTION NATAL= FAIL
EPIC HOW MANY DOLLARS ARE IN THE BROWN PAPER BAG MICRSOFT GAVE YOU TO TALK THIS TRASH
NATAL IS NOTHING MORE THAN A TRACKING CAMERA NT SUITED TO UR GAMES
TALKING CRAP ON MICROSOFTS BEHALF SO SAD |
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