Electronic Arts is beating its chest over what it's calling the record-breaking launch of FIFA 10. "With 1.7 million copies sold through at European retail in the first week, the game is the fastest selling sports game ever and EA's biggest European launch in history," says the publisher.
In a short PR burst, probably aimed square at PES, EA Sports boss Peter Moore added, "We were confident that FIFA 10 would be a hit, and this week fans across Europe have shown just how much they love this game. We are incredibly proud of FIFA 10 and this kick-off for great, authentic football competition." PES, it's over to you.
ya well get the damn online bit working properly, the live season up and running and patch tht stupid outdated dlc crap tht keeps coming up for no reason and we can say its probably the best sports game so far as well.
Huge improvement over last years game but the physics are still a bit horrible and online play just doesnt feel right,
Got to agree with the last comment, the Live Season shouldn't be on there if it isn't working properly and likewise EA seriously need to get the Virtual Pro Game Face working.
I think FIFA 10 is the buggiest game I have ever played. Some of the bugs are quite serious too, pretty much rendering the manager mode (and therefore a load of trophies) useless. No Game face or live season, bizarre be-a-pro glitches, trophies not unlocking for some but unlocking for others in a seemingly random way.
The only thing that is working well for me is the standard game-play side of things.
This has the potential to be the best football game i've owned, but at the moment, it's a long, long way away from that.
Already mentioned but I'm sure the deals from retailers offering the game at £25 had a huge role in these sales. I've always been on the fence with both FIFA and PES, but I ended up at Asda at 12am getting FIFA 10 at launch, in line waiting for over 40 mins. Saying that, it was well worth it. FIFA's come along way and progressed each year while PES seems to have stood still in time. For once, I'll say well done to EA.
Here's a list of some bugs in FIFA 10 from http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/f...r-mode-13.html It seems that calling FIFA 10 the best sports game of all time was a bit hasty. FIFA 09 seemed better.
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Crashing, freezing and saving issues
1) The Manager Mode freezing bug (where you can’t progress without your console locking up) still occurs. One person has suffered from this and noticed that in his last save before this occurs, one of his midfielders changed into a goalkeeper with no name, and his overall rating becomes “-10118”. Apparently downloading the latest squad file and loading the game again can fix the situation. 2) It has been reported that with some people transfers “lock” altogether after a certain amount of seasons (being linked to a disc problem). 60) When saving a Manager Mode game, when it's finished saving, why are you prompted to save your profile as well? This is with autosave turned on!
Assistant Manager and AI manager issues
15) The assistant manager, even when turned off, will sometimes swap your players around. Player roles are also reset. 16) The assistant manager AI is terrible. It will choose players with no fitness (10%-20%) to play out of position, over players with 100% fitness who can play in that position. See below for more info. 17) The AI management of other clubs is terrible. Examples; Chelsea play Terry at LB with Cole at CB in the same match, Man Utd play Vidic and Ferdinand as LB/RB with Brown and Evra as CBs in the same match, Giggs gets played at LB occasionally, etc. etc. etc.
Tactical and Team Management issues
3) All teams below the Premier League have their tactics set to all-70s. Applies to other leagues/teams as well, see Australia, Brazil and others. 2 The overall rating of a player changes before/during the game. So if one of my strikers has an overall rating of 83 (including his form), when I pause the game and go to Team Management his rating can drop by 10+. What value is actually being used by the game? The pre-game rating or the paused-game rating? 33) When you have a player injured, the game forces you to remove him from your team before going to the pre-game screen. You don't want to remove him from your first-choice team, you want to remove him at the pre-match team management screen, like in FIFA 09. But now you can't do that. 45) When selling a player, the whole squad gets moved around. Player roles are also moved around. 55) In the Squad Management screen before a fixture, set it to display the OVR rather than fatigue bar, then select a reserve and swap him with another reserve. I've seen both of their OVRs change. 56) The Edit Formation screen is buggy. If you nudge one position around, then go to change the role of another position, it thinks the second position is where the first is. Sometimes it'll move it so they overlap, and you have to drag it back to where you want it. This was also the case in FIFA 09.
Injury issues
20) I’ve seen one injury in two seasons; Marcel promised this lack of injuries – and especially this lack of SERIOUS injuries – was fixed for FIFA 10. This is simply not true. The most widely reported injury is whiplash, which isn't a common injury, and which only affects the player for a week. 21) Injuries don’t last for a long enough period of time. For example, a hamstring injury should keep a player out for a month – in FIFA 10 it’s a week.
Board issues
13) The board sack you even if you occupy first place. You can expect to be fired at the mid-way point of the season if you lose a cup game, even if you’re in the top four of the league, especially in the Premier League. Even in the lower leagues, I’ve seen situations where games are won 6-0 every week for months and suddenly you’re fired the moment you draw 1-1. 14) When playing against teams who are better than you, your board always expect you to beat that team. I mostly play as a League 1 team, and if I’m beaten by a Championship or Premier League side I get a board comment that states I was “expected to win the game”, and occasionally you will get the sack for this. This may be because teams aren’t recognised in their correct division; for example, when losing against a team from the league above you, you will occasionally get a message that says you should have done better against “lower league opposition”. 37) As a manager with a reputation level of half-a-star, you sometimes get comments from the board that “a manager of your calibre should be performing better”. 3 You lose respect with the board when losing a game on penalties. You should be given the same increase/decrease you would be given for a draw rather than a win/loss in these circumstances (if I play as a one star team against Man United and lose on penalties, I shouldn't have my relationship with the board suffer because of it). 5 Your board can give you an objective, e.g. avoid relegation, but you're given no indication as to where the relegation zone is, e.g. playing as a Polish league side the board objectives for the first season are to get to the QF of the cup and to "aviod the relegation zone". Where is it? Bottom 3? Bottom 2? I'm in position 14 out of 16, how are we supposed to know if that's safe? 59) The board will often tell you to invest in new players, when the transfer window is closed and there's nothing you can do about it.
5) Players you loan out can be sold by the clubs you loaned them to. 6) Newly signed players vanish from your squad with no warning. They just disappear, and then if you look them up they’re playing for someone else. 7) When trying to sign a second loan player, sometimes I am told by the game that I already have two – when I only have one. When signing two loan players, I then tried to (permanently) sign two free agents, and I’m told I can’t sign them because I “already have two players on loan”. 11) Signing players is practically impossible, even when offering maximum wages and maximum bonuses, even if you can get their interest level up to 85%+. (Even if you start out as a manager with no reputation, you should be able to sign really poor players with no reputation who aren’t getting first-team football elsewhere.) 12) Signing your own players is just as difficult, regardless of how well the team is doing. They refuse to sign even when you offer the maximum wages allowed. But if you wait until the end of the season, you get the same screen you get in FIFA 09 where you can just tick a box to re-sign a player and they will sign for peanuts! Strange one! 34) Often you are not told why a player has refused to sign for you. No explanation is given on the Negotiation History screen for these players and it seems that they are never permitted to sign for your club, for no apparent reason. You never get an explanation for the affected players. 35) Sometimes when trying to sign a player they’ll say e.g. they get a “bad vibe” from your current players. Try to sign them again next week and they’ll sign for you. Doesn’t make much sense. 36) You can list a player for sale/loan who is garbage, e.g. 42 overall when the rest of the players in your squad/division are 60+, and instantly you get offers from the top teams in your division/country for him. Sometimes even top-flight teams from other countries make an offer; they have no possible reason to loan in a player who is literally twice as bad as any other player they have. It seems that every player you ever list you MUST receive an offer for, even if they are terrible, and it’s always a good team that has no need for a poor player which shows interest. 43) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week they’ll have signed for somebody else! 46) When buying a player, they are given a squad number already in use, and it messes up the squad numbers for the entire team. Why can’t they be given a number that isn’t in use? 53) People are reporting that they can go from having millions to spend to being BILLIONS in debt. 54) For the new season it was said by the development team that you receive new transfer funds and a new wage budget to reflect the new income for that season. People are reporting they start the new season with the same money they ended the last one.
Form and fitness issues
1 The effect of form is far too severe. It makes your team go up/down by a whole star rating within a few games, so with a 3 star team you can yoyo to 2 star and weeks later 4 star. 19) The form system seems to be totally random. I can win 2-3 games in a row by 2-3 goals and the form will get worse. A striker can score six goals in a game and his form will DROP! 29) Form should never affect physical attributes. For example, a striker who is on hot form wouldn’t see his pace increase. 30) Playing as a League 1/2 team, you have literally no fit players left after 3-5 games of the season. I don’t care how bad your fitness coach is, a group of professional players would have enough players fit to start a game after 3-5 games of the season. (You’re forced to spend £1m to upgrade your fitness coach to a realistic level.) 32) When simming games instead of playing them, two things to note. Firstly, the level of your fitness coach isn’t taken into account, so the players lose 25%-75% more fitness than they should. Secondly, when simming, you actually get to see some injuries! Plus they last for a decent period of time (e.g. metacarpal fracture, player out for four weeks)!
Stadium and graphical issues
9) 90% of matches in England are played at night in the rain regardless of stadium choice. I’ve yet to see a match played in the daytime with sunny weather. 10) Seasonal changes don’t seem to affect the weather. So in England, in the summer, you will see rain and even snow with no games being played in sunshine. 22) When playing in the snow the ball used is white, which is incredibly difficult to see, and you can’t change the ball yourself. 31) The league table that shows up at the start of each game is never correct (same as FIFA 09). It always shows you in 6th-9th position regardless of whether you’re in the top half or the bottom half of the table, and your opponents are shown in an incorrect position as well. 47) A stadium will never fill up with people. I can play a Champions League match against a five-star team and all stands will still have large empty sections. 49) Occasionally the wrong stadium picture is displayed pre-game. For example when playing at the Emirates a picture of (what looked to be) the training ground was displayed. 64) For some reason only ten characters are permitted for first names and surnames now, when this wasn't the case in FIFA 09.
Stats issues
4) All assists are credited to the goalkeeper. 39) The leader of the assist list seems to be the player who keeps the most clean sheets. 40) Players who are substituted show no ratings at full-time. So if my striker gets a hat-trick and I substitute him, his rating is blank after the game. (Yet substituted players can receive Man of the Match awards, so a rating must be getting calculated by the game? I presume they’re just not being displayed?) 41) Goals/assists that occur in cup competitions, e.g. the FA Cup, aren’t counted in the player’s statistics. Also goals from the Charity Shield game aren't counted and yet the game itself counts as a game played. 57) The OVR number disappeared from a player's bio. It used to be next to the player's list of positions. Why has it been removed?
Incorrect data issues
23) Only 5 benched substitutes are allowed in FIFA 10 below the Premier League. All English league and cup competitions now allow 7 substitutes in reality. 24) Friendly games should allow 12 substitutes on the bench (and also you should be allowed to use all 12). Currently it’s restricted to 7 on the bench (with only 3 substitutions allowed). 26) FA Cup games and the Community Shield game are played at night when they’re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final. 52) People playing as League Two teams (e.g. Bury) are reporting that they are not entered into the English league cup competition. 61) The Belgian league is missing playoffs. 62) The new Europa League format is not in the game. 63) Incorrect teams make it into European competition. As someone has said, "I got 4th in career mode but a team that ended up 12th goes to europa league while I don't".
Scheduling issues
25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality.
Scouting issues
42) When scouted players are presented to you for purchase, they are always said to play on the opposite side to their preferred foot. For example, a left winger will always be shown to prefer their right foot. Yet if you buy the player, most of the time, they will actually prefer the appropriate foot.
Player search issues
44) When searching for players their form ratings are displayed, rather than their actual ratings. This means you have no idea what the player’s actual ratings are. 4 The player search parameters you input will reset when bidding on a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender, CB, rated 50-60, playing in League Two, then you bid on one and you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input each one again.
Shortlist issues
27) The shortlist was supposed to allow up to 20 players to be stored, but seems to only allow 10 players.
Created player issues
50) Creating a player (not a Virtual Pro) to sign in your Manager Mode career seems incredibly difficult/buggy. If you create a player and assign him to the free agents pool, the game freezes. If you assign him to a national team, he doesn’t show up as a free agent in Manager Mode. If you assign him to a national team and THEN move him to the free agents pool, you won’t be able to find him anywhere but in the “Created Players” section and you’ll see that his assigned team is referred to as something like "team1932as12309" – you can’t then find this team/player in Manager Mode to sign the player.
Commentary issues
51) Commentary gaffes happen every 1-2 games, e.g. “5 minutes to go and they lead 1-0” when it’s 1-1, “I have to say he’s on one of the worst runs of his career” when he’s already scored in the match you’re playing, etc. etc. etc. and also, when playing as your Virtual Pro, you find the commentary refers to you scoring your 20th goal every time you score once you’ve reached that point. So for example when you score your 21st goal the commentator will say it’s your 20th, etc. (not sure if this only applies to Manager Mode or other modes as well).
It is naff that live season or gameface isn't working but I have got a feeling that I will be trading this in for PES anyway. It is more like FIFA 9.5 than 10. I enjoyed FIFA 09 more.
5) Players you loan out can be sold by the clubs you loaned them to. 6) Newly signed players vanish from your squad with no warning. They just disappear, and then if you look them up they�re playing for someone else. 7) When trying to sign a second loan player, sometimes I am told by the game that I already have two � when I only have one. When signing two loan players, I then tried to (permanently) sign two free agents, and I�m told I can�t sign them because I �already have two players on loan�. 11) Signing players is practically impossible, even when offering maximum wages and maximum bonuses, even if you can get their interest level up to 85%+. (Even if you start out as a manager with no reputation, you should be able to sign really poor players with no reputation who aren�t getting first-team football elsewhere.) 12) Signing your own players is just as difficult, regardless of how well the team is doing. They refuse to sign even when you offer the maximum wages allowed. But if you wait until the end of the season, you get the same screen you get in FIFA 09 where you can just tick a box to re-sign a player and they will sign for peanuts! Strange one! 34) Often you are not told why a player has refused to sign for you. No explanation is given on the Negotiation History screen for these players and it seems that they are never permitted to sign for your club, for no apparent reason. You never get an explanation for the affected players. 35) Sometimes when trying to sign a player they�ll say e.g. they get a �bad vibe� from your current players. Try to sign them again next week and they�ll sign for you. Doesn�t make much sense. 36) You can list a player for sale/loan who is garbage, e.g. 42 overall when the rest of the players in your squad/division are 60+, and instantly you get offers from the top teams in your division/country for him. Sometimes even top-flight teams from other countries make an offer; they have no possible reason to loan in a player who is literally twice as bad as any other player they have. It seems that every player you ever list you MUST receive an offer for, even if they are terrible, and it�s always a good team that has no need for a poor player which shows interest. 43) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week they�ll have signed for somebody else! 46) When buying a player, they are given a squad number already in use, and it messes up the squad numbers for the entire team. Why can�t they be given a number that isn�t in use? 53) People are reporting that they can go from having millions to spend to being BILLIONS in debt. 54) For the new season it was said by the development team that you receive new transfer funds and a new wage budget to reflect the new income for that season. People are reporting they start the new season with the same money they ended the last one.
Form and fitness issues
1 The effect of form is far too severe. It makes your team go up/down by a whole star rating within a few games, so with a 3 star team you can yoyo to 2 star and weeks later 4 star. 19) The form system seems to be totally random. I can win 2-3 games in a row by 2-3 goals and the form will get worse. A striker can score six goals in a game and his form will DROP! 29) Form should never affect physical attributes. For example, a striker who is on hot form wouldn�t see his pace increase. 30) Playing as a League 1/2 team, you have literally no fit players left after 3-5 games of the season. I don�t care how bad your fitness coach is, a group of professional players would have enough players fit to start a game after 3-5 games of the season. (You�re forced to spend �1m to upgrade your fitness coach to a realistic level.) 32) When simming games instead of playing them, two things to note. Firstly, the level of your fitness coach isn�t taken into account, so the players lose 25%-75% more fitness than they should. Secondly, when simming, you actually get to see some injuries! Plus they last for a decent period of time (e.g. metacarpal fracture, player out for four weeks)!
Stadium and graphical issues
9) 90% of matches in England are played at night in the rain regardless of stadium choice. I�ve yet to see a match played in the daytime with sunny weather. 10) Seasonal changes don�t seem to affect the weather. So in England, in the summer, you will see rain and even snow with no games being played in sunshine. 22) When playing in the snow the ball used is white, which is incredibly difficult to see, and you can�t change the ball yourself. 31) The league table that shows up at the start of each game is never correct (same as FIFA 09). It always shows you in 6th-9th position regardless of whether you�re in the top half or the bottom half of the table, and your opponents are shown in an incorrect position as well. 47) A stadium will never fill up with people. I can play a Champions League match against a five-star team and all stands will still have large empty sections. 49) Occasionally the wrong stadium picture is displayed pre-game. For example when playing at the Emirates a picture of (what looked to be) the training ground was displayed. 64) For some reason only ten characters are permitted for first names and surnames now, when this wasn't the case in FIFA 09.
Stats issues
4) All assists are credited to the goalkeeper. 39) The leader of the assist list seems to be the player who keeps the most clean sheets. 40) Players who are substituted show no ratings at full-time. So if my striker gets a hat-trick and I substitute him, his rating is blank after the game. (Yet substituted players can receive Man of the Match awards, so a rating must be getting calculated by the game? I presume they�re just not being displayed?) 41) Goals/assists that occur in cup competitions, e.g. the FA Cup, aren�t counted in the player�s statistics. Also goals from the Charity Shield game aren't counted and yet the game itself counts as a game played. 57) The OVR number disappeared from a player's bio. It used to be next to the player's list of positions. Why has it been removed?
Incorrect data issues
23) Only 5 benched substitutes are allowed in FIFA 10 below the Premier League. All English league and cup competitions now allow 7 substitutes in reality. 24) Friendly games should allow 12 substitutes on the bench (and also you should be allowed to use all 12). Currently it�s restricted to 7 on the bench (with only 3 substitutions allowed). 26) FA Cup games and the Community Shield game are played at night when they�re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final. 52) People playing as League Two teams (e.g. Bury) are reporting that they are not entered into the English league cup competition. 61) The Belgian league is missing playoffs. 62) The new Europa League format is not in the game. 63) Incorrect teams make it into European competition. As someone has said, "I got 4th in career mode but a team that ended up 12th goes to europa league while I don't".
Scheduling issues
25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn�t usually happen in reality.
Scouting issues
42) When scouted players are presented to you for purchase, they are always said to play on the opposite side to their preferred foot. For example, a left winger will always be shown to prefer their right foot. Yet if you buy the player, most of the time, they will actually prefer the appropriate foot.
Player search issues
44) When searching for players their form ratings are displayed, rather than their actual ratings. This means you have no idea what the player�s actual ratings are. 4 The player search parameters you input will reset when bidding on a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender, CB, rated 50-60, playing in League Two, then you bid on one and you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input each one again.
Shortlist issues
27) The shortlist was supposed to allow up to 20 players to be stored, but seems to only allow 10 players.
Created player issues
50) Creating a player (not a Virtual Pro) to sign in your Manager Mode career seems incredibly difficult/buggy. If you create a player and assign him to the free agents pool, the game freezes. If you assign him to a national team, he doesn�t show up as a free agent in Manager Mode. If you assign him to a national team and THEN move him to the free agents pool, you won�t be able to find him anywhere but in the �Created Players� section and you�ll see that his assigned team is referred to as something like "team1932as12309" � you can�t then find this team/player in Manager Mode to sign the player.
Commentary issues
51) Commentary gaffes happen every 1-2 games, e.g. �5 minutes to go and they lead 1-0� when it�s 1-1, �I have to say he�s on one of the worst runs of his career� when he�s already scored in the match you�re playing, etc. etc. etc. and also, when playing as your Virtual Pro, you find the commentary refers to you scoring your 20th goal every time you score once you�ve reached that point. So for example when you score your 21st goal the commentator will say it�s your 20th, etc. (not sure if this only applies to Manager Mode or other modes as well).
Chill out dude! Don't worry it'll be all ironed out by the 10th update!...Just as Fifa 11 is ready for release....
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The overall rating of a player changes before/during the game. So if one of my strikers has an overall rating of 83 (including his form), when I pause the game and go to Team Management his rating can drop by 10+. What value is actually being used by the game? The pre-game rating or the paused-game rating?
