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shadyMrPatch
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 Posted: 25 Sep 09 5:47 pm |
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sorry... are you shitting me?
Look at the difference between 9 and 10 (let me refer you to this : here)
Now go and look at the fuzzier edged shadows that DX11 promises.
whoa! Hold me back.
Sounds to me like there is a collusion going on here, no-one has got anything new to offer yet, but how on earth are they going to make you fork over another £300 for a GPU when you only bought that GTX285 3 months ago. Thats right, lock the new standard to new hardware.
What a load of shite. |
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dogsolitude_uk
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 5:51 pm |
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See Direct X 11 at work.
See small differences. Can you spot the differences?
I can't.
See Spot run.
See dogsolitude_uk remaining unconvinced by rounder gasmask filters, keeping his money where it is, and waiting for a decent reason to upgrade.
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NEOnburN9
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 5:51 pm |
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Damn I built a new P.c for direct X10 to run Crysis, theres no way im upgrading my P.c yet just to play this with a few more shadows.
Looks awesome though, its a shame Stalker nether made it onto the consoles like it was rumoured.
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Brains
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 5:54 pm |
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And the difference is...??  |
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G00N3R
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 5:55 pm |
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Am I missing something? Only difference I can see is that one set of screens appears slightly brighter than the other. But I can't see any noticable difference in quality anywhere. |
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DarrenR
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 6:02 pm |
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Is it just me or is there very little difference? |
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wildhook2
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 7:01 pm |
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Both look perfectly identical to me. |
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ronin Ithikus
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 7:16 pm |
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WTF! Upgrade for what? I can see virtually no difference but as has been mentioned in the gas mask. |
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 7:43 pm |
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| dogsolitude_uk wrote: | See Direct X 11 at work.
See small differences. Can you spot the differences?
I can't.
See Spot run.
See dogsolitude_uk remaining unconvinced by rounder gasmask filters, keeping his money where it is, and waiting for a decent reason to upgrade. |
Aye. I found myself questioning which pic was actually DX10 and which was DX11. I suspect that of the pics I looked at I actually ended up preferring the DX10 ones at times...but I could be wrong since I'm still not sure which one is which in some of the pics.
I do plan on upgrading to one of the new GPUs once Nvidia has released its GT300 line-up, at which point (hopefully) a price war will ensue between ATI and Nvidia just like last generation. If the initial reports that a HD 5850 can be overclocked with the ASUS "Voltage Power" function to match, or even surpass, the clocks on an OC'ed HD 5870, then I may just go for an HD 5850 but first let me see what Nvidia has up its sleeve (along with some non-reference designs for both camps in the coming months).
P.S. To the rest of you: You are not alone - while there are some slight differences in some of the pics (ex. look at the shadow cast by the tree on the ground - in one pic the shadow is more blurred/fuzzy compared to the harder/more solid shadow cast in the counterpart pic), the differences seem to me (and you,) to primarily be the lighting in the background and a more rounded gas mask filter cylinder. The differences seem negligible; what may not be so negligible will be the performance increase DX11 systems will experience when running DX9, 10, and 11 games (although the last one is still up in the air given the lack of DX11 games currently).
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HotRabbit
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 8:37 pm |
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I doubt I'll be wasting £300+ anytime soon on another graphics card upgrade. About four of the games I have actually use directX 10 and one of those use it terribly to the point I reverted to directX 9 just to be able to play. And that was S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky. To me, I can't see directX 11 being much better, performance or visual wise.
Looking at the line up of terrific games due for release over the next few months, most of them using directX 9, I can see I'll be sticking with my trusty overclocked 9800 GX2 for a long time to come. |
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originalbadboy
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 8:39 pm |
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Buy a 360 ...Its cheaper ... Come to think of it you could probably get a PS3 for less than a cutting edge GPU these days ....
PC gaming is dead in the water for anything other than MMO's and RTS's. |
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Obscure_Metaphor
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 9:27 pm |
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ahhh now i get it, directx 11 just tweaks my brightness settings a little! wow! thats incredible, this is as big a leap at when TV went colour!
seriously, what the hell? dx10 was impressive, it was an obvious improvment over dx9, but this? i couldnt tell the difference. and when it was labelled for me, half the time i preferred the dx10 one.
if this isnt proof that graphical power is slowing, i dont know what is. |
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duncanskuse
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 9:33 pm |
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Looks pretty meh. And stop dissing PC games, it's depressing.
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h3r3tic666
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 9:40 pm |
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| originalbadboy wrote: | Buy a 360 ...Its cheaper ... Come to think of it you could probably get a PS3 for less than a cutting edge GPU these days ....
PC gaming is dead in the water for anything other than MMO's and RTS's. |
SCREW YOU X-Butt ! pc gaming will always be better , looks better and be more challenging than consoles .. |
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 10:04 pm |
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| originalbadboy wrote: | Buy a 360 ...Its cheaper ... Come to think of it you could probably get a PS3 for less than a cutting edge GPU these days ....
PC gaming is dead in the water for anything other than MMO's and RTS's. |
Nah, not really, but keep dreaming if it's a case of console-envy.
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 25 Sep 09 10:08 pm |
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| Obscure_Metaphor wrote: | ahhh now i get it, directx 11 just tweaks my brightness settings a little! wow! thats incredible, this is as big a leap at when TV went colour!
seriously, what the hell? dx10 was impressive, it was an obvious improvment over dx9, but this? i couldnt tell the difference. and when it was labelled for me, half the time i preferred the dx10 one.
if this isnt proof that graphical power is slowing, i dont know what is. |
In all fairness though, tessellation and detail levels are pushed to new heights by DX11 but it is - so far at least - limited just how much of an improvement still images online manage to convey of DX11 over DX10.
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runadumb
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 12:20 pm |
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I wont be upgrading for DirectX 11 but for the massive performance increase in all my games. I see Dx11 as a nice bonus.
Wont be till early next year I think as I recently got a 260GTX with batman for £125 and its pretty damn fast. Still cant max out GTA4 or crysis (well I can but framerate isnt were I want it) so im kinda disappointed with it. Im sure I could sell it for £70 odd in a few months. Roll on the next gen! |
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gogo65uk
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 1:12 pm |
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Not much on the horizon for pc I'm interested in playing aion at the moment my laptop Alienware M17x) runs it nicely and guildwars 2 in the next 2-3 years time laptop will probably run that too. as for the screen shots it doesn't out do Killzone2 even if its usin dx11. I never seen sense in waiting 3-6+ months for pc versions of console games JUST so they look better. Pc gaming is definatly not what it once was. FPS games were never challenging on pc either I always played through on hardest level with mouse and keyboard with relative ease. Consoles controls maybe clunkier but it adds to the chanllenge and all round experience. I've still some fond memories of my pc gaming years so I'm not dissing it in anyway. |
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lmimmfn
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 1:30 pm |
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the 3rd last shot clearly shows the tessellation working producing a higher polygon count where the head gear doesnt have angles like the dx10 version
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obscured021
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 2:30 pm |
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I have a 295gtx and i still play most of my game under xp, i do boot up vista from time to time to see the dx10 black magic and it must be very black as i can only see small changes, i also have windows 7 installed but dont think i will change my gpu for a while as i can't see a hole lot of difference from dx 9 to 11, its not got the massive gains 8 and 9 had.
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blagger
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 2:46 pm |
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It's pointless upgrading pc hardware these days when there's sod all new games to run on it.
Plenty of console ports appear on pc months later of course, but there's not many pc exclusives that come out these days.
I just don't see the point anymore. |
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mousearmy
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 3:07 pm |
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It's pretty obvious this game supported DirectX 11 as an afterthough. I think we'll have to wait a year or more until we see any games really start to take advantage of DirectX 11 |
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twistedfiend
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 3:39 pm |
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I had to look REALLY hard to notice any difference at all. If this was a full game and you were in the middle of some frenetic action you wouldn't notice anything. It certainly isn't worth spending money to have the difference. |
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The_KFD_Case
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 5:32 pm |
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| gogo65uk wrote: | | Not much on the horizon for pc I'm interested in playing aion at the moment my laptop Alienware M17x) runs it nicely and guildwars 2 in the next 2-3 years time laptop will probably run that too. as for the screen shots it doesn't out do Killzone2 even if its usin dx11. I never seen sense in waiting 3-6+ months for pc versions of console games JUST so they look better. Pc gaming is definatly not what it once was. FPS games were never challenging on pc either I always played through on hardest level with mouse and keyboard with relative ease. Consoles controls maybe clunkier but it adds to the chanllenge and all round experience. I've still some fond memories of my pc gaming years so I'm not dissing it in anyway. |
I couldn't disagree more. FPS was made on and for the PC. Console versions are often the poor cousin's version in comparison. They are often dumbed-down, look worse, have less features, lack mod options and the controls are a joke. If that's how you like your FPS'es by all means continue with them on the consoles. Personally I refuse to buy any more FPS games for my Xbox 360 if they are available on the PC...And if they aren't available on the PC I'm inclined to pass.
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jukkiz
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| Posted: 26 Sep 09 8:32 pm |
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KFD_Case has clearly never played a console FPS in his life. The games look as good, are never "dumbed" down (actually the PC and console versions of games are IDENTICAL), and when you get the hang of those controls, they're AS GOOD as a mouse. No kiddin'.
I've got a gaming PC, X360 and a PS3, and I prefer playing on consoles. No hassle with hardware, no hassle with drivers, they get almost all of the same games, the pad controller is as good (or better in some games), and it's nicer to play on the livingroom couch.
And you don't get shafted with a £300 bill every year, when the new DirectX ships and you gotta get the latest graphics card. |
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