Update: We've been grabbing direct-feed footage all morning. Take a look at our Halo: ODST videos.
Halo 3: ODST is epic. Don't be fooled by people saying it's only an expansion. Yes, it has the shortest campaign of any Halo game, but it's marginal. Every second is pure, Halo-flavoured glory and every Halo fan should have ODST in their lives.
It's been billed as a Halo game with a difference and that, for some reason, has people suspicious that it's not the game they want it to be. On multiple occasions we've had people ask us what it's like, worried that it's all stealth and no action, or that the ending rolls around after just two hours. It carries the unfortunate stigma that it's 'just an expansion'.
Let's get this straight. ODST is a Halo game, through and through. A full-fat, mentally loud, slap-in-the-face epic Halo game with all the jump, grenade, melee action that comes with the series. We did it in around seven hours on Heroic, which was more than just a satisfying ride. Time restraints stopped us exploring as much as we would have naturally, and there's always re-playability opportunities with Legendary mode and of course co-op.
It's not radically different but it's not just more of the same. The key difference is the main structure of the game. Instead of playing one separate mission after another, you're thrown into an open-world city, Mombasa. You've seen the trailer below, right? That's you, the Rookie, crashing down to earth as your platoon is blasted by the explosion of a covenant ship making a sub-space jump.
Halo 3 ODST
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You slam into the ground and are knocked unconscious. Six hours later you awaken alone in this dark, sprawling and eerily deserted Mombasa with no idea what's happened to your squad. Finding out is your over-arching mission of the game.
You start off wandering aimlessly. It's not like any previous Halo game - it's quiet. The background music is calm and slightly solemn. Squads of Covenant, who now control the city, patrol the streets and it's up to you to avoid or confront them.
Sometimes you're cornered and have no choice, but that's part of the new strategic element of ODST. You can use the streets to escape or to gain an advantage in battle. You can enter buildings, go up high and attack from above, dart off down back alleys and re-emerge elsewhere to surprise the enemy.
It's not long before you encounter a ringing telephone through which you link up with the Superintendant - a city-wide AI usually in charge of controlling traffic lights. It saw what happened in the past few hours and gives you a waypoint marker to the location of an artefact significant to unravelling the mystery.
Finding this artefact triggers a flashback of the events that occurred in that area, at which point you play as the ODST involved in what you could call a more conventional linear mission. Finish that mission and you're returned to the eyes of the Rookie to head back into Mombasa to locate another artefact.
This new structure forms a fantastic balance of traditional, explosive, linear Halo and a new type of Halo in the quieter Mombasa, where you have the freedom to roam, looking out for enemy platoons and sometimes working to avoid them when their numbers are overwhelming.
They compliment each other, as you attack some missions Rambo style but approach Mombasa with a more reserved, explorative attitude. You can take on the ten missions in whichever order you want, and the game rewards explorers with sound files that detail an entirely separate story of a distressed young woman - a drama you can uncover as you scour the streets.
This new structure is the game's key difference. Bungie has heavily touted the differences/weaknesses in being an ODST instead of a Spartan. Does it make a huge difference to the way you play the game? No, is the simple answer.
You can't jump as high, but it's barely noticeable. Explosions and melee strikes knock you back a few feet but that's no biggie. Your melee attacks don't do as much damage, which often means that Brutes will survive the elbow to the face that would previously have laid them out in Halo 3. That's not a game-changing difference either.
You no-longer have a shield, which would have been an epic change if Bungie didn't just substitute it with 'stamina', which basically does exactly the same thing.
When you're shot the screen goes red and when it's at its deepest red, further shots chip away at your health bar. Hide away safe and your stamina returns - so it's like having a shield and a health bar, just like Halo 1. Fall damage is back too, also like the original Halo.
What else has changed? The SMG from Halo 2 is back, only now it's silenced and more accurate. The pistol in ODST is like the one from Halo 1 - powerful, accurate and very useful with its scope, but not as unbalanced as it was in the original.
There seems to have been some other subtle changes to the existing weapon balance - shotguns don't feel as powerful at point-blank range, but conversely the assault rifle seems more useful at mid-range than it was in Halo 3.
The ODST's visor sight is cool. When activated it highlights enemies, friends and significant objects with different coloured outlines, which act as a visual aid particularly in the dark streets of Mombasa.
Otherwise though, ODST has mostly the same weapons and enemies, and because of that there's an instant familiarity to the way it's played. But that's not a bad thing. This is a genre-defining series, remember? Your Halo-loving brain will be happy.
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There aren't any bottlenecks like the insane third mission in Halo 3, Tsavo Highway, which was like trying to head butt your way through a brick wall on Legendary. The flashback missions throw you into one magnificent set piece after another, often against greater numbers of enemies than you've ever seen in Halo.
The Covenant AI is still the best and most lifelike of any FPS - fighting them never gets boring or repetitive. You can see them making judgement calls, working together and using the scenery effectively. And the finely-tuned weapon system that goes with that is the other half of what makes Halo such a pleasure to play - a finely balanced system of 'scissors, paper, stone', where different combinations of weapons are needed to deal with each situation strategically.
So good are Halo's AI and weapons that there's a whole new multiplayer mode built on that basis. Firefight mode is absolutely fantastic. The idea is simple - you and three other players fight increasingly difficult waves of Covenant in one of ten maps - but the result is utter class.
The twist is in a rule-modifying skull system - with each passing round the game activates different game-changing skulls that, for example, make the enemies throw more grenades, or change the health system so that you have to melee a Covenant to recharge your stamina. It's brutal.
Your team shares a single pool of lives, so one rogue can ruin it for the whole squad, making it important that you look after each other as drop ships spit out dozens of enemies all around the map. We played it in LAN with a bunch of busy, quiet journos and still loved it. Playing online with mates will be awesome.
And if that doesn't keep the ODST disc in your Xbox for months, let's not forget that ODST comes bundled with another disc, the Halo 3 Mythic disc, which contains the entire Halo 3 multiplayer experience, with all the downloadable content so far, AND three new maps. That's 24 maps, Forge, Save Films and File Share. And you can play that against all current Halo 3 owners too.
ODST is no rush job and to call it an expansion is unfair. This is a meaty, loud and epic new Halo with a superb new campaign and an awesome co-op multiplayer mode with all the Halo 3 multiplayer shenanigans thrown in for good measure.
It may be a little short and it's not a far cry from what Halo fans have seen already. But it's more of the same industry-defining quality you expect from Bungie. Halo fans, it's time to book the week off work/school.
This is the kind of score I was expecting to be honest because it's not a full game. But then I guess I could say that the downer that ODST offers nothing new is not a valid point since this isn't a proper sequel. However, the game's price would suggest that it is a full game which would make that point valid. I blame Microsoft for making us buy all the multiplayer maps again the hardcore Halo fans probably already have.
Either way, I can't wait to play this campaign and get into some Firefight... Mmm... Firefight.
It's funny though that everybody has completely forgotten that Master Chief isn't in this game and nobody cares anymore, which means Bungie are successful in creating compeling new characters that I'm actualy interested in playing as.
Tuesday can't come soon enough. Halo is like a drug and I need a quick fix of ODST baby.
Looking forward to this a LOT: having been spoiled rotten by Arkham Asylum in the few weeks, this now looks like we're going into a winter of content. Glory be.
Awesome- I wasn't sure whether the fact that this campaign was going to be slated as more of the same- but it looks like another blissful Halo injection for me! (though I am a little miffed at having already payed for the maps already)
why does every halo game get reviews like this? i have played a lot of fps games and halo is just one of them, i find them average at best, and its a bit of a kick in the teeth to everyone thats already got halo3 and the addons, why not make a cheaper '1 disc version' or an even cheaper download version? i'll probably still buy it though, i do love coop games, but i think after i've plauyed it coop once its back in the box, just like halo3 did
why does every halo game get reviews like this? i have played a lot of fps games and halo is just one of them, i find them average at best, and its a bit of a kick in the teeth to everyone thats already got halo3 and the addons, why not make a cheaper '1 disc version' or an even cheaper download version? i'll probably still buy it though, i do love coop games, but i think after i've plauyed it coop once its back in the box, just like halo3 did
If you find Halo average at best, why bother buying this?
Anyway, it's good to see it getting good scores and I'm definitely hyped for it. Also, I suggest you guys start a campaign on Heroic at least if you want a challenge.
why does every halo game get reviews like this? i have played a lot of fps games and halo is just one of them, i find them average at best.
They get good reviews because they are good games.
I was playing a bit of H3 yesterday. At one stage 280'000 people were playing online. This is a 2 year old game that is still, and by quite a margin, the most played game on xbox live.
If it was average there is no way this many people would still be playing them.
why does every halo game get reviews like this? i have played a lot of fps games and halo is just one of them, i find them average at best, and its a bit of a kick in the teeth to everyone thats already got halo3 and the addons, why not make a cheaper '1 disc version' or an even cheaper download version? i'll probably still buy it though, i do love coop games, but i think after i've plauyed it coop once its back in the box, just like halo3 did
If you find Halo average at best, why bother buying this?
Anyway, it's good to see it getting good scores and I'm definitely hyped for it. Also, I suggest you guys start a campaign on Heroic at least if you want a challenge.
Speaking of scores is ODST at 9.0 really better than Call of Duty 4 = 8.9 or KillZone 2 = 8.7?
It doesn't LOOK better, that's for sure. Typical CVG bias towards anything with a Halo tag on it. This review is utter rubbish.
why does every halo game get reviews like this? i have played a lot of fps games and halo is just one of them, i find them average at best, and its a bit of a kick in the teeth to everyone thats already got halo3 and the addons, why not make a cheaper '1 disc version' or an even cheaper download version? i'll probably still buy it though, i do love coop games, but i think after i've plauyed it coop once its back in the box, just like halo3 did
If you find Halo average at best, why bother buying this?
Anyway, it's good to see it getting good scores and I'm definitely hyped for it. Also, I suggest you guys start a campaign on Heroic at least if you want a challenge.
Speaking of scores is ODST at 9.0 really better than Call of Duty 4 = 8.9 or KillZone 2 = 8.7?
It doesn't LOOK better, that's for sure. Typical CVG bias towards anything with a Halo tag on it. This review is utter b******s.
You have to take into consideration that it could be different reviewers. I haven't played Killzone 2, so can't comment on whether it deserved higher. I just feel that all the Halo weapons, vehicles and enemy AI feel great and make the game fun. CoD 4 had great, explosive set-pieces in campaign, but the enemies weren't as interesting to fight against and personally, it lacked a bit in the fun factor.
Graphics-wise, they both look better, but Halo 3 is no slouch considering the wide open playing fields most of it's levels contained.
WTF? you give this a 9 but than give wolfenstine a 6.8? think it was 6.8 i dunno. i always said this site was full of s**t but you did not have to prove it to me. congratz. a expention pack which is not even in HD gets a freaking 9? go figure. if this deserves a 9/10 im the prim minister of the world. and wolfenstine deserves a 20/10
I never said that, but it certainly must contribute to an overall review score.
You have to take into consideration that it could be different reviewers. I haven't played Killzone 2, so can't comment on whether it deserved higher. I just feel that all the Halo weapons, vehicles and enemy AI feel great and make the game fun. CoD 4 had great, explosive set-pieces in campaign, but the enemies weren't as interesting to fight against and personally, it lacked a bit in the fun factor.
Graphics-wise, they both look better, but Halo 3 is no slouch considering the wide open playing fields most of it's levels contained.
I'm not having that. CoD4 is a great great game, as is KillZone 2. They both got unworthy reviews.
ODST on the other hand is a 6 hour "game" released at full RRP when it is more suited to being DLC for Halo 3! Despite that, this "game" gets a better review score than 2 of the best shooters around! This review of CVG's is just another major embarrassment.
WTF? you give this a 9 but than give wolfenstine a 6.8? think it was 6.8 i dunno. i always said this site was full of s**t but you did not have to prove it to me. congratz. a expention pack which is not even in HD gets a freaking 9? go figure. if this deserves a 9/10 im the prim minister of the world. and wolfenstine deserves a 20/10
No sir, the 'prim minister' of the world would have to have some form of intellect and basic ability to spell words correctly, so I don't think you would get that job.
The review is a joke. Take Killzone 2 for example, which got a lesser score. It's not even about whether ODST is the better game. The fact is, the areas nthat KZ2 was marked down on are completely ignored for ODST, ie we've seen it all before elsewhere. Halo 3 maps are irrelevant, especially for those who already own them, so to include them in the review is complete bulls**t. Halo is a good game, but ODST is nothing more than an expansion and as such, the review score is a complete farce. ODST is absolutely nothing new and to try and convince yourself that it's a full blown sequel is just ridiculous. This isn't console bias, but more a Halo fanboy. The score should reflect the game and it most definitely doesn't do the customer any justice.
WTF? you give this a 9 but than give wolfenstine a 6.8? think it was 6.8 i dunno. i always said this site was full of s**t but you did not have to prove it to me. congratz. a expention pack which is not even in HD gets a freaking 9? go figure. if this deserves a 9/10 im the prim minister of the world. and wolfenstine deserves a 20/10
No sir, the 'prim minister' of the world would have to have some form of intellect and basic ability to spell words correctly, so I don't think you would get that job.
Dude, you took the words right out of my mouth! This game is more than just an "expention pack". Besides, I think the "prim minister" would hav more important things to do than comment angrily about a game he's never played! Oh, and Wolfenstein got a 5.7.
Also, Liamario, you said they ignored the things that KZ2 was marked down by in the ODST review? "No co-op, samey enemies and rare need to change guns". ODST has co-op, a variety of intelligent enemies and your constantly using different weapons for different jobs in halo games!
Anyway, just got my confirmation that my order has been sent (not getting it early then ). Roll on tuesday!!!
Guess our own tastes are all different. To be fair halo 3 deserved a 6 in my eyes the campaign is pretty dull (played online once got teamed up with some dopey american kids never bothered again). Resistance 1 blew it out the water let alone R2 and KZ2 but with so many different points of view on these games it isn't worth getting heated. It will sell s**t loads. MW2 will probably get a similar review but will sell even more. peace out!
I knew CVG had turned into a bunch of Xbots but this 9/10 is bulls**t. Killzone 2 deserves a higher score than this expansion pack. But CVG were already calling ODST best FPS of the year weeks ago so I should have seen this biased crap coming.
Oh well I'm done with this site, the bias is stinkin the place up.
It really doesn't get any better than the stupendous combat a Halo game provides
There are other really smart shooters out there also of course(gears,cod4,Halflife2)but the nature of Halo's combat means it's never the same encounter you face
Although i'd say Halo3 was far from what i wanted it to be, that hasn't stopped me playing over 150 campaign missions on it.And that really does say a lot about how much fun it is
At a glance Halo seems to play like just any other shooter of it's type, but further time with it exposes a greater deal of immediate depth within it's sandbox of goodies
Halo is why i continue to play so much on my 360 and this looks like a very neat addition
ODST came from just a year's worth of work from a much smaller team so i'm guessing Reach is going to be something else
Great and understanding review guys, well done
Also nice to see a lot more people on here with sense than i expected regarding this review
I'll be buying it, but not for the price MS are trying to put on it. Reading this and the Gamesradar review (which gave it a 7), I'm dissapointed at the length of the single player campaign, and the fact that the difference between an ODST and the Master Chief in terms of gameplay are apparently marginal at best, despite Bungie's claims. Still, at least it'll play as well as it always has, it's just not the major departure I was hoping for.
The game is a 6-hour long expansion, originally intended as DLC but sold as a full-price game.
And you give it 9.0????
Rubbish
If it cost £9.99-19.99 the score is justified. But how can it score higher than Killzone 2, which is more than twice as long and has more exhaustive MP content
I knew CVG had turned into a bunch of Xbots but this 9/10 is bulls**t. Killzone 2 deserves a higher score than this expansion pack. But CVG were already calling ODST best FPS of the year weeks ago so I should have seen this biased crap coming.
Oh well I'm done with this site, the bias is stinkin the place up.
True. This is an expansion of no more than 6-7 hours from what I've read, dressed up as some kind of full-game at the last minute to rake in the cash
And it gets a 9.0?????
Not worth the money, I hate Halo and all the kids that play it
As usual people are complaining about an abstract number given to a game, tut tut!! Is this number really going have an affect on how you perceive the game when you actually PLAY it? It's just opinions....
As usual people are complaining about an abstract number given to a game, tut tut!! Is this number really going have an affect on how you perceive the game when you actually PLAY it? It's just opinions....
As usual people are complaining about an abstract number given to a game, tut tut!! Is this number really going have an affect on how you perceive the game when you actually PLAY it? It's just opinions....
As usual people are complaining about an abstract number given to a game, tut tut!! Is this number really going have an affect on how you perceive the game when you actually PLAY it? It's just opinions....
As usual people are complaining about an abstract number given to a game, tut tut!! Is this number really going have an affect on how you perceive the game when you actually PLAY it? It's just opinions....
I find it interesting that people are rallying to the defence of COD 4 or Killzone 2 (which is a clunky, poor and highly over-rated FPS) reviews and calling Halo : ODST.
Even with a 7 hour campaign as per the review, that still makes it a longer game than Call of Duty 4 and WaW (the latter campaign was pathetic) which lasted less time. They were too short, and even though I have played the online a lot in COD, it still doesn't compare to the balanced game that Halo 3 presents.
In Halo 3 you start as equals and skill is what differentiates the players at the end. Not some lucky hit from an air strike or a flood of kills from helicopters or dogs, or the fact that the people who have played the longest are rewarded with the better weapons. Every kill is yours and you have to earn it. That is why COD players hate Halo online, because it just seems too hard.
COD is easy to get into. You run around and you get kills. You run around in Halo like that and you ARE going to die a lot. You have to have a tactic, you have to understand the weapons and when you do all that you are rewarded with an understanding of the game that allows you to understand why me and so many other players even now 2 years on dedicate so much time to Halo 3 over any other game.
Here I'll made it simple for you thick Halo fans. Weeks ago CVG were saying Halo ODST was the best FPS of the year. How the f**k could they know that without playing stuff like Modern warfare 2?. Because they knew they were going to award ODST a high score no matter how little new content this package offers, and it offers very little new content.
When Modern Warfare 2 scores less than ODST on CVG you will see how this s**t has been planned since CVG went to play ODST a long time ago. Biased to the extreme. But you Halo freaks don't care about fair reviews, you just want to see a big score on Master Chief's c**k.
sup guys, i played this on friday night (rented a copy from work, jake 316 if you want to add me).........this game should not be a 9 in any way.....i would of give it 6. its nothing new im afraid same old same old if you ask me.....and the graphics( on the first level at least) are well bad in my eyes. i know games shouldnt be about graphics but with this...i reckon they should have tried better. i didnt play the multiplayer so that may be amazing (halo 3 multiplayer was fun) but the singel player was lame(of what i played). i know i havent gone into detail why i think its lame, but i have played it and i aint no fanboy!
Here I'll made it simple for you thick Halo fans. Weeks ago CVG were saying Halo ODST was the best FPS of the year. How the f**k could they know that without playing stuff like Modern warfare 2?. Because they knew they were going to award ODST a high score no matter how little new content this package offers, and it offers very little new content.
When Modern Warfare 2 scores less than ODST on CVG you will see how this s**t has been planned since CVG went to play ODST a long time ago. Biased to the extreme. But you Halo freaks don't care about fair reviews, you just want to see a big score on Master Chief's c**k.
For those thick Halo fans? Let me turn it around and point out how your post is completely stupid. The magazine has probably been in possession of Halo ODST for a number of weeks in order to review it today.
Are we to grade all game reviews based on a future release?
Oh and by the way, at this point ODST is scoring 9/10 on a number of websites. So stop being so childish and a complete COD fanboy and accept that Halo games are popular and score highly. As will COD MW2. Just because I don't think the online multiplayer in COD matches the multiplayer in Halo 3 is my opinion and should not effect other games scores.
Get over it, people like Halo. People like COD and there will always be a definite divide between those people.
At all the haters: What a bunch of f**ktards (And I'm not the kind of guy who uses words like f**ktards willy nilly). "Waaa! Killzone 2 is better! Mum! CVG is being meeeeaaaan!" You guys are gonna go mental when you discover girls, you really are. And has anyone noticed there seems to be a lot of these guys saying word for word the same things? Multiple accounts much? Hmmmm...
Moving swiftly on...
Game are doing a pre-order with an extra controller whereas play and amazon are doing the Sgt Johnson playable character thing. I'm thinking an extra controller would be more useful somehow. Regardless, consider me hyped!
Good score, that I am sure is justified. However, I can't personally justify paying top dollar for a 4-5 hour campaign. I've never got into Halo online, so it seems like a rent to me. The firefight mode does sound fun, but I have no friends that play Halo (they are all Call of Duty fanboys ), so obviously that mode is something I can't benefit from.
Saying that, after renting, I may find that the pricetag is justified and end up buying it anyway.
Good score, that I am sure is justified. However, I can't personally justify paying top dollar for a 4-5 hour campaign. I've never got into Halo online, so it seems like a rent to me. The firefight mode does sound fun, but I have no friends that play Halo (they are all Call of Duty fanboys ), so obviously that mode is something I can't benefit from.
Saying that, after renting, I may find that the pricetag is justified and end up buying it anyway.
4 to 5 hour? As this thread has gone on, the campaign has almost halved in length...
And game length isn't everything. I've lost track of how many games I've stopped playing because I lost momentum with them, they were just too long.
As I get older, I'm beginning to appreciate the games that fall into the 8-12 hour bracket far more. Batman: Arkham Asylum was in this region, and I enjoyed every minute of it, and finished it too. Something I still can't claim of Oblivion (no matter how brilliant I feel Oblivion is...).
Quite amusing that so many are moaning about how Killzone 2 was scored lower. It's almost as if a review was one persons opinion.
Why are some people dismissing this like this is some rubbish. Why don't people play a game before saying their "opinion". Some people on these forums are pathetic. If you don't like the game then keep it to yourself. People are "omfg killzone is way better than this s**t" etc. Just stop the petty arguments.
sup guys, i played this on friday night (rented a copy from work, jake 316 if you want to add me).........this game should not be a 9 in any way.....i would of give it 6. its nothing new im afraid same old same old if you ask me.....and the graphics( on the first level at least) are well bad in my eyes. i know games shouldnt be about graphics but with this...i reckon they should have tried better. i didnt play the multiplayer so that may be amazing (halo 3 multiplayer was fun) but the singel player was lame(of what i played). i know i havent gone into detail why i think its lame, but i have played it and i aint no fanboy!
Hey dude, I jusy checked your achievements for ODST and it looks like you haven't even completed the first flashback, in other words you just started the game, which means your opinion is not in any way valid unlike the opinion of the reviewer who as has completed the Campaign and played Firefight.
Do you want me to post several reviews that state it is over 10 hours?
Or even better do you want me to tell you again that it is all opinion and that you should make up your own mind?
Ohhh but thats right you can't make up your own mind. You are stuck in this 10 year old 'mines better than yours' mentality where unless its PS3 it ain't good.
Wake up little child. It ain't about whats best or who has got what. Unlike you I play games for the fun of it, and ODST has fun stamped all over it...
But CVG were already calling ODST best FPS of the year weeks ago so I should have seen this biased crap coming.
If you're talking about this comment ("Hands-on with the shooter of the year" then you've actually read it and will know that Xbox World wrote that and not us, right?
Always fun to see the same old pathetic faces, spouting the same s**t. Oh no someone thinks ODST is more fun than Killzone 2. I'll agree with them becasue i thought killzone 2 was derivative b******s.
Turns out its not just CVG that thiniks that ODST is a brilliant game, thats coming out at a 29.99 in most places. last time i checked for such a full package thats a bargain!
Still if there being more good games in the world is a problem then you probably should go and off yourself. Its probably for the best.
Still if there being more good games in the world is a problem then you probably should go and off yourself. Its probably for the best.
Whilst I can't say I agree with going as far as off'ing yourself, I agree with the sentiment.
Never ever in the history of gaming has there been so many good games, or good games coming out. 2010 looks like it could be the best year for gaming ever. We are on the verge of new technology that could change gaming for ever, Natal, PS3 motion control, augmented reality, 3D gaming etc etc...
Yet some 'gamers' still have a problem with more good games coming out.
A halo article with all the prerequisite bitch fighting, nice.
I should be getting my clammy hands on this later today. The only real thing I'm concerned about is paying for the multiplayer component all over again. But I've got over it, the pistol looks to make up for it.
Had a little look at the vidmaster challenges, after spending four hours with some friends doing the four player ghost achievement (i thought i was going to be doing that for the rest of my life)I'm not too enamoured by seeing the deja vu one.
Never ever in the history of gaming has there been so many good games, or good games coming out. 2010 looks like it could be the best year for gaming ever. We are on the verge of new technology that could change gaming for ever, Natal, PS3 motion control, augmented reality, 3D gaming etc etc...
Yet some 'gamers' still have a problem with more good games coming out.
I agree. Some people are pathetic beyond comprehension.
Even if you absolutely hate Halo (why you would hate a game that's at worst an entertaining shoot 'em up, is beyond me) then the chances are that other devs have better taste in games than you, and can appreciate Halo and try to better it resulting in better games for you.
What people fail to realise is that if it wasn't for Guerilla trying to outdo Halo, then Killzone 2 would never have been as good.
More great games, whether they're your thing or not has a direct impact on the quality of the games you DO like. Be thankful, not hateful.
i noticed someone said my opinion isnt valid cus i havent played it all.....but thats because it didnt grip me like other games. i only played it for an hour and a bit, but if i like a game( like batman) im on it for a very long time....anyway i also said i did not try it all so it could be worth a 9 after multiplayer etc
WTF? you give this a 9 but than give wolfenstine a 6.8? think it was 6.8 i dunno. i always said this site was full of s**t but you did not have to prove it to me. congratz. a expention pack which is not even in HD gets a freaking 9? go figure. if this deserves a 9/10 im the prim minister of the world. and wolfenstine deserves a 20/10
No sir, the 'prim minister' of the world would have to have some form of intellect and basic ability to spell words correctly, so I don't think you would get that job.
haha is that a sarcastic jab at the americans for having George Bush as president? lol
work at blockbuster mate and rented a copy and what do you mean about why would i bother if it didnt grip me? how would i know it wouldnt grip me without playing it you fool? i tried to give it a chance for about an hour and then i decided i didnt want to play it anymore....why is this so hard for people to except?
work at blockbuster mate and rented a copy and what do you mean about why would i bother if it didnt grip me? how would i know it wouldnt grip me without playing it you fool? i tried to give it a chance for about an hour and then i decided i didnt want to play it anymore....why is this so hard for people to except?
You rented it like 3 days before it came out, surely that's not legal. The only way to get a game early is to preorder it from somewhere that delivers early, so with that in mind monkey assumed you must have preordered it from a certain place to make sure you got it early and he was calling your bluff because people don't go through that effort for a game they aren't interested in.
Anyway why is everyone going on about this year's best shooters being COD:MW2, Halo ODST and Killzone 2. Left 4 Dead 2 will be the best shooter this year by miles.
39.99!!!!! its a bit of a rip off mate, although not as much as a rip off like call of duty which will be 44.99 ( gamestation 54.99!!! where i use to work!)
work at blockbuster mate and rented a copy and what do you mean about why would i bother if it didnt grip me? how would i know it wouldnt grip me without playing it you fool? i tried to give it a chance for about an hour and then i decided i didnt want to play it anymore....why is this so hard for people to except?
You rented it like 3 days before it came out, surely that's not legal. The only way to get a game early is to preorder it from somewhere that delivers early, so with that in mind monkey assumed you must have preordered it from a certain place to make sure you got it early and he was calling your bluff because people don't go through that effort for a game they aren't interested in.
Anyway why is everyone going on about this year's best shooters being COD:MW2, Halo ODST and Killzone 2. Left 4 Dead 2 will be the best shooter this year by miles.
when i was at gamestation we could buy games early so we could let people know about them....blockbuster lets us rent for the same reason mate...thank god i could warn people about terminator salvation!!!
Why are people still riding on the "how can it be a 9/10 when it's an expansion costing that of a full price title" train.
It's an idiotic argument considering noowhere is selling it for more than £30. It's priced appropriately.
No it's not. Check other expansion packs like Oblivion's Shivering Isles and the GTA4 expansions. They were all around £10-£15. ODST is double the price. Considering I already have the Halo 3 map packs I won't be paying £30-£35 for maps I already own plus a 5-6 hour campaign expansion. I'm going to wait till it comes down to £15 before getting it. Pay anything more and Microsoft will be ripping me off. Considering some of the responses on other forums and reviews (check IGN and Eurogamer reviews), I'm not the only one to feel this way.
Why are people still riding on the "how can it be a 9/10 when it's an expansion costing that of a full price title" train.
It's an idiotic argument considering noowhere is selling it for more than £30. It's priced appropriately.
No it's not. Check other expansion packs like Oblivion's Shivering Isles and the GTA4 expansions. They were all around £10-£15. ODST is double the price. Considering I already have the Halo 3 map packs I won't be paying £30-£35 for maps I already own plus a 5-6 hour campaign expansion. I'm going to wait till it comes down to £15 before getting it. Pay anything more and Microsoft will be ripping me off. Considering some of the responses on other forums and reviews (check IGN and Eurogamer reviews), I'm not the only one to feel this way.
I think, in fairness, it should have been sold as an add-on to Halo 3 at £15-£20. For those guy's who already bought all of the maps for Halo 3, I think that they may feel a little short changed with this package. I suppose the Firefight mode just about justify's the price. Just.
I think people are positioning the multiplayer disc incorrectly. I see it as if this product would be worth the current price if it's just a campaign (that's almost as long as Halo 3) and Firefight mode AND the extra map pack all for the less-than-full-price of £30. The idea behind the Mythic disc is "oh by the way, if you didn't already have it, we've thrown in the classic Halo 3 multiplayer too".
Sadly, if the Mythic disc hadn't been included I honestly believe ODST would be getting higher reviews even though you'd get less.
Only if you completely ignore the fact they are two totally different games.
I would like to say I am amazed by the amount of people spitting bile that Killzone was rated lower than ODST, but I'm not. I would imagine this would be because Killzone is absolutely nowhere near Halo in terms of quality. NOWHERE NEAR.
Naturally I haven't played ODST, but it's Halo, so you presume it to be as good as Halo 3. I sat down with a few mates just the other day and put Halo 3 on for the first time in about a year. Absolutely brilliant, still, 2 years after release. It's easy to forget how good a game is sometimes, but every time I play Halo it's a guaranteed good time.
Also has to be said, those referring to it as an expansion, please. You are getting a new (admittedly slightly shorter) campaign, a totally new online co-op mode, plus every Halo 3 online add on released so far. Oh and new weapons etc for those online modes. For £30. Can anyone explain how that is a rip off? You are the same people who tried to boycott Left 4 Dead 2 aren't you.
Get past puberty, get a girl, maybe even do a bit of who is your daddy with her and live your life a little bit, because at the moment its plain to see that the lovely, lovely PS3 is the only thing in your life.
Also, Liamario, you said they ignored the things that KZ2 was marked down by in the ODST review? "No co-op, samey enemies and rare need to change guns". ODST has co-op, a variety of intelligent enemies and your constantly using different weapons for different jobs in halo games!
I'm not arguing as to whether Halo 3 is the better game, my point is, Killzone 2 was marked down for offering nothing new, yet ODST wasn't treated the same way. You also forget that if you remove the Halo 3 maps, you are left with nothing more than an expansion and as such, the game should have been treated the same way. As it stands, CVG are trying to tell me that this is one of the best FPS of all time, up there with things like the orange box or COD 4. JOG ON!!!
So to find what you call the "best" reviews you went to metacritic and found the 2 lowest scorers. Well done, you certainly are a genius. I have always wondered how to find the most unbiased and fair reviews (what I call the "best", and it turns out I just need to look for the lowest scores. I'll make sure I do the same for Uncharted 2.
And please don't flood this thread with 20 pointless, identical comments. Thanks.
So to find what you call the "best" reviews you went to metacritic and found the 2 lowest scorers. Well done, you certainly are a genius. I have always wondered how to find the most unbiased and fair reviews (what I call the "best", and it turns out I just need to look for the lowest scores. I'll make sure I do the same for Uncharted 2.
And please don't flood this thread with 20 pointless, identical comments. Thanks.
sigh...go away fanboy.
An opinion is an opinion, if you don't like it, go away and cry to the other kids.
So to find what you call the "best" reviews you went to metacritic and found the 2 lowest scorers. Well done, you certainly are a genius. I have always wondered how to find the most unbiased and fair reviews (what I call the "best", and it turns out I just need to look for the lowest scores. I'll make sure I do the same for Uncharted 2.
And please don't flood this thread with 20 pointless, identical comments. Thanks.
sigh...go away fanboy.
An opinion is an opinion, if you don't like it, go away and cry to the other kids.
See, even when you try and defend yourself you come out sounding like a complete tool.
There was nothing in my statement that makes me even remotely fanboyish. That's your bag, by the sounds of it.
The fairest review I've read so far was EG with 8/10. Not so sure it deserves the full 9, but I'll make my own judgement when it arrives. Something that some people are clearly incapable of doing
So to find what you call the "best" reviews you went to metacritic and found the 2 lowest scorers. Well done, you certainly are a genius. I have always wondered how to find the most unbiased and fair reviews (what I call the "best", and it turns out I just need to look for the lowest scores. I'll make sure I do the same for Uncharted 2.
And please don't flood this thread with 20 pointless, identical comments. Thanks.
sigh...go away fanboy.
An opinion is an opinion, if you don't like it, go away and cry to the other kids.
See, even when you try and defend yourself you come out sounding like a complete tool.
There was nothing in my statement that makes me even remotely fanboyish. That's your bag, by the sounds of it.
The fairest review I've read so far was EG with 8/10. Not so sure it deserves the full 9, but I'll make my own judgement when it arrives. Something that some people are clearly incapable of doing
So to find what you call the "best" reviews you went to metacritic and found the 2 lowest scorers. Well done, you certainly are a genius. I have always wondered how to find the most unbiased and fair reviews (what I call the "best", and it turns out I just need to look for the lowest scores. I'll make sure I do the same for Uncharted 2.
And please don't flood this thread with 20 pointless, identical comments. Thanks.
sigh...go away fanboy.
An opinion is an opinion, if you don't like it, go away and cry to the other kids.
See, even when you try and defend yourself you come out sounding like a complete tool.
There was nothing in my statement that makes me even remotely fanboyish. That's your bag, by the sounds of it.
The fairest review I've read so far was EG with 8/10. Not so sure it deserves the full 9, but I'll make my own judgement when it arrives. Something that some people are clearly incapable of doing
Do you think he's caught some kind of STD from bonking his PS3? Something that effects the brain? It's the only answer I can come up with for the glut of fanboy dimwits out there. They're too busy grinding away at those USB ports to actually get round to playing the damn thing.
Pleased to see Uncharted 2 is getting great reviews too- I'll see if I can pick up a PS3 with it.
Didn’t that Zero Cool chap just get banned from Eurogamer as well for bleating on in the ODST comments as well? It’s rather pathetic you feel the need to go on about it so much, have a crank, it’ll make you feel better.
I know I’ll like it as I love Halo, that’s all that matters to me! Uncharted does look amazing, I’m unlikely to buy another gaming console for it, but I’ll find a way of playing it. I might buy it for my brother on the condition he lends his PS3 o me for a couple of weeks…
I can't believe people get so worked up about a couple of percentage points! ODST is obviously GOOD. And it's going to be enjoyable for the vast majority of Halo fans, which is who it's aimed at.
Why PS3 owners need to claim it's poor to make themselves feel better is beyond me. Does CVG giving KZ2 less than 9.5, or giving a higher score to ODST or Gears2 in some way diminish their enjoyment of it? I can only think it must.
The arstechnica.com review does seem quite thorough, so you have to respect their opinion, not rating it as highly, is based on solid arguments. But it is still just one opinion.
Also, this "Expansion pack" label, is it fair? Is the "New Mombasa" setting for ODST an existing area used in Halo 3? I was under the impression is was a new environment? (I've not played much Halo 3)
If it was just new missions in existing environments, I would agree it should have been cheaper DLC..
Wasn't he saying it was just an opinion? Or did I miss something? I think he's just suprised Edge gave it a 9/10 seeing as Edge are usually a bit stingy... though they gave Halo 3 10/10 so I'm not in the least suprised. And good on 'em I say
Not sure what's so funny though, but I'll happily join you in laughing randomly.
How do you know ODST is a six hour game? Do you want me to post several reviews that state it is over 10 hours?
Yes, go on then! Edge shamefully awarded ODST 9/10 as well and even they said it takes 6 hours on 'heroic'.
Wake up little child. It ain't about whats best or who has got what. Unlike you I play games for the fun of it, and ODST has fun stamped all over it...
Shut up you blistering idiot, no-one is complaining that a game isn't fun by someone's arbitrary opinion. I AM COMPLAINING that the review scores issued by CVG and EDGE are biased and I am entitled to complain and complain as much as I bloody well like!
In the larger context of ODST’s achievement, however, you can easily tolerate these problems. This is Halo. The near-perfect weapon balance, fantastic enemy AI, attention to level geography and gigantic tear-ups with hordes of nasty aliens are all here, a timely reminder of just how brilliant that basic formula still is. ODST doesn’t quite take Halo into unfamiliar territory, but it does show how robust and adaptable the core of the game is – and, more importantly, stands on its own two feet as a spin-off that’s better than the vast majority of original games. For that, it earns the right to whatever name it wants. 9/10
That whole paragraph REEKS of FANBOY. This is Halo ?!? Er...?!?!?!?!?!?!? BATMAN MOTHER-F***ER!
EDGE and CVG both deserve a joint Microsh!tting fagtart award.
Wasn't he saying it was just an opinion? Or did I miss something? I think he's just suprised Edge gave it a 9/10 seeing as Edge are usually a bit stingy... though they gave Halo 3 10/10 so I'm not in the least suprised. And good on 'em I say
Not sure what's so funny though, but I'll happily join you in laughing randomly.
I swear some of your posts make it out like you hate the gaming world for whatever reason.
CVG and Edge two of the biggest names in independent game journalism being biased? Get a grip please.
You love the PS3 and for some reason hate everything else, thats fine, just keep it to yourself though because everyone else doesn't care, they just want to play good games like I said before.
At the end of the day Lordy I will be playing ODST tomorrow and having fun with it, and you will be playing whatever you are playing and having fun too.
Wasn't he saying it was just an opinion? Or did I miss something? I think he's just suprised Edge gave it a 9/10 seeing as Edge are usually a bit stingy... though they gave Halo 3 10/10 so I'm not in the least suprised. And good on 'em I say
Not sure what's so funny though, but I'll happily join you in laughing randomly.
Yeah you're right you did miss something.
You're about as intelligent as the pen on my desk.
No he didn't miss anything. Edge are known to be pretty tight when it comes to rating games, so for them to give a game a score that's ABOVE the average is very unusual.
And when I slagged off zero_cool for posting negative reviews, it wasn't because they were negative. It was because he found the 2 lowest marks and then called them the 2 "best" reviews.
Really? Another one?? Aww, s**tey white. Hmm, do I go off on a rampage about how all posties are PS3 fanboys... no. No, I don't think I will.
Well, hopefully it'll come tomorrow- and I fully expect you sir, to be there!
I better be! I'm in that frame of mind where nothing else matters much now, just need the hours at work to fly-by. I suggest CVG post that 7/10 review of Uncharted 2 to help!
i noticed someone said my opinion isnt valid cus i havent played it all.....but thats because it didnt grip me like other games. i only played it for an hour and a bit, but if i like a game( like batman) im on it for a very long time....anyway i also said i did not try it all so it could be worth a 9 after multiplayer etc
I take it you were unaware that blockbuster employees were forbidden from renting this early. Embargo lifts as of 28th.
Needless to say your store manager now has to phone his district manager to explain the matter.
I too work for Blockbuster, the case has been bogging me out for the past five days. Today I finally get to play the bugger.
Having just read the Gamespot review (9/10), they listed "No Flood" as a minor point. This fact completely passed me by! I'm devastated.
thank all that is holy there is no flood, there's always at least one shocking flood level in a halo game. Even halo wars inexplicably featured the flood, even though I was led to believe they'd never been encountered prior to Halo 1.
Having just read the Gamespot review (9/10), they listed "No Flood" as a minor point. This fact completely passed me by! I'm devastated.
thank all that is holy there is no flood, there's always at least one shocking flood level in a halo game. Even halo wars inexplicably featured the flood, even though I was led to believe they'd never been encountered prior to Halo 1.
If you recall, they used their ship's reactor to destroy the micro Dyson sphere. The Spirit of Fire had no way to jump back home and could take decades to get back. It hadn't returned even by the end of Halo 3, so there was no way they could pass on the message before the Flood were discovered in Halo.
But this thought did occur to me the other day about no Flood. I'm actually glad we get a break from them.
*sigh*, the worst thing about these sites is all the sad little kiddies who get up in arms when they see a good review for a game on another console.
'm in that frame of mind where nothing else matters much now, just need the hours at work to fly-by. I suggest CVG post that 7/10 review of Uncharted 2 to help!
Bloody hell, things are bad enough as they are!. I keep thinking of the escaped mental patients in the straight jackets from Arkham Asylum when I see some of the comments in this thread. I dunno why.
ledickolas=pwning. Nice way to shoot him down! JAKEevans, your in trouble!!! lol.
Liamario, I wasn't trying to say that u wer saying one was better than the other. All I did was compare the game to the points they marked KZ2 down for, n said it stands up against them. I think it does bring one or two new things, but thats just my opinion, and I suppose I can see your point, coz there isn't loads! I totally agree, all games should be reviewed equally, but I don't think the tag "expansion" is a fair one. However it is your opinion and I respect that, so lets just agree to disagree!
Personally I think bungie did a great job in the time frame they had. Let's not forget people, they've never tried anything like this before! And New Mombassa was built from scratch!!! I can't wait til the postman gets here! I feel like a five year old whose parents won't let him go down yet on christmas morning!!!
ODST will tide me over quite nicely till Uncharted 2 comes out.
decided to take a half day from work. I'll be picking up a copy on my way home me thinks. Anybody know anywhere thats got some kind of offer on for it.
Also has to be said, those referring to it as an expansion, please. You are getting a new (admittedly slightly shorter) campaign, a totally new online co-op mode, plus every Halo 3 online add on released so far. Oh and new weapons etc for those online modes. For £30. Can anyone explain how that is a rip off? You are the same people who tried to boycott Left 4 Dead 2 aren't you.
If you haven't got Halo 3 or any of the map packs then ODST is worth the £30. However, for those of us who already have them, all you're left with is a 4-6 hour campaign, firefight mode, 3 new maps and a couple of new weapons. How is that worth £30? Let's not forget it's only £5 less than alot of other brand new games released this year (Tales of Vesperia and Resident Evil 5 spring to mind)and is the same price RRP as Street Fighter IV.
Don't forget ODST was originally meant to have been downloadable content that has only been in development for 12 months. Unfortunatley, you could say that Microdoft got gready, chose not to release it as downloadable content, doubled the price of the game and added the Halo 3 multiplayer (something most Halo fans already own) to try and justify the price.
Like I said, if you don't own Halo 3 or any of it's map packs, then the game is good value. However, most Halo fans would already have this, therefore Halo fans are just being ripped off.
Another review... http://www.techunion.us/articles/id16.xbox-360.halo-3-odst-review.aml
Yawn... again...
85% average on metacritic...
Out of curiosty, are you actually bothering to read the reviews (some of them are just blatent fanboy rants while others are far more interesting and in-depth) or are you just looking at the review score just to justify your purchase?
Having just read the Gamespot review (9/10), they listed "No Flood" as a minor point. This fact completely passed me by! I'm devastated.
thank all that is holy there is no flood, there's always at least one shocking flood level in a halo game. Even halo wars inexplicably featured the flood, even though I was led to believe they'd never been encountered prior to Halo 1.
If you recall, they used their ship's reactor to destroy the micro Dyson sphere. The Spirit of Fire had no way to jump back home and could take decades to get back. It hadn't returned even by the end of Halo 3, so there was no way they could pass on the message before the Flood were discovered in Halo.
But this thought did occur to me the other day about no Flood. I'm actually glad we get a break from them.
Aha, must have missed that bit of the plot. Makes sense now, however Halo's plots are usually hard to follow ingame.
i wasnt aware i wasnt allowed to rent it....oh s**t
My manager actually hid all the copies and then when he reaised we found them, took all of our gamertags so he could check our played games on his iphone.
ODST will tide me over quite nicely till Uncharted 2 comes out.
decided to take a half day from work. I'll be picking up a copy on my way home me thinks. Anybody know anywhere thats got some kind of offer on for it.
I've seen it stated that Asda has it for £32.75 and Morrisons has it for £29.99. I might pop down to Morrisons and there are no big Asdas around here.
Morrisons prices/deals do seem to vary from store to store though.
i wasnt aware i wasnt allowed to rent it....oh s**t
My manager actually hid all the copies and then when he reaised we found them, took all of our gamertags so he could check our played games on his iphone.
Talk about militant behaviour.
And you actually gave them to him?! I'd have told him where to shove that!
ODST will tide me over quite nicely till Uncharted 2 comes out.
decided to take a half day from work. I'll be picking up a copy on my way home me thinks. Anybody know anywhere thats got some kind of offer on for it.
I've seen it stated that Asda has it for £32.75 and Morrisons has it for £29.99. I might pop down to Morrisons and there are no big Asdas around here.
Morrisons prices/deals do seem to vary from store to store though.
Morrisons in Camden is full of strange people. I fell this reflects most Morrisons.
ODST will tide me over quite nicely till Uncharted 2 comes out.
decided to take a half day from work. I'll be picking up a copy on my way home me thinks. Anybody know anywhere thats got some kind of offer on for it.
I've seen it stated that Asda has it for £32.75 and Morrisons has it for £29.99. I might pop down to Morrisons and there are no big Asdas around here.
Morrisons prices/deals do seem to vary from store to store though.
Morrisons in Camden is full of strange people. I fell this reflects most Morrisons.
But Camden in general is full of weird people, IMO anyway!
ODST will tide me over quite nicely till Uncharted 2 comes out.
decided to take a half day from work. I'll be picking up a copy on my way home me thinks. Anybody know anywhere thats got some kind of offer on for it.
I've seen it stated that Asda has it for £32.75 and Morrisons has it for £29.99. I might pop down to Morrisons and there are no big Asdas around here.
Morrisons prices/deals do seem to vary from store to store though.
Morrisons in Camden is full of strange people. I fell this reflects most Morrisons.
But Camden in general is full of weird people, IMO anyway!
Yes, but they’re normally around the high street & markets, and as such an expected strangeness. While I am buying my vegetables I don’t want strangely vacant folk following me round each aisle about 30 centimetres behind me, picking up everything I put down, then possibly taking it home and licking it.
ODST will tide me over quite nicely till Uncharted 2 comes out.
decided to take a half day from work. I'll be picking up a copy on my way home me thinks. Anybody know anywhere thats got some kind of offer on for it.
I've seen it stated that Asda has it for £32.75 and Morrisons has it for £29.99. I might pop down to Morrisons and there are no big Asdas around here.
Morrisons prices/deals do seem to vary from store to store though.
Morrisons in Camden is full of strange people. I fell this reflects most Morrisons.
But Camden in general is full of weird people, IMO anyway!
Yes, but they’re normally around the high street & markets, and as such an expected strangeness. While I am buying my vegetables I don’t want strangely vacant folk following me round each aisle about 30 centimetres behind me, picking up everything I put down, then possibly taking it home and licking it.
ODST will tide me over quite nicely till Uncharted 2 comes out.
decided to take a half day from work. I'll be picking up a copy on my way home me thinks. Anybody know anywhere thats got some kind of offer on for it.
I've seen it stated that Asda has it for £32.75 and Morrisons has it for £29.99. I might pop down to Morrisons and there are no big Asdas around here.
Morrisons prices/deals do seem to vary from store to store though.
Morrisons in Camden is full of strange people. I fell this reflects most Morrisons.
But Camden in general is full of weird people, IMO anyway!
Yes, but they’re normally around the high street & markets, and as such an expected strangeness. While I am buying my vegetables I don’t want strangely vacant folk following me round each aisle about 30 centimetres behind me, picking up everything I put down, then possibly taking it home and licking it.
You should try Morrisons on Holloway Road. It's like another world. But a 30 minutes stroll and a sea of velour tracksuits are worth it to save a tenner!
ODST will tide me over quite nicely till Uncharted 2 comes out.
decided to take a half day from work. I'll be picking up a copy on my way home me thinks. Anybody know anywhere thats got some kind of offer on for it.
I've seen it stated that Asda has it for £32.75 and Morrisons has it for £29.99. I might pop down to Morrisons and there are no big Asdas around here.
Morrisons prices/deals do seem to vary from store to store though.
Morrisons in Camden is full of strange people. I fell this reflects most Morrisons.
But Camden in general is full of weird people, IMO anyway!
Yes, but they’re normally around the high street & markets, and as such an expected strangeness. While I am buying my vegetables I don’t want strangely vacant folk following me round each aisle about 30 centimetres behind me, picking up everything I put down, then possibly taking it home and licking it.
You should try Morrisons on Holloway Road. It's like another world. But a 30 minutes stroll and a sea of velour tracksuits are worth it to save a tenner!
That's where I shop! Spot-on about the velour tracksuits too!
Velour scares me, I seem to generate a static field wherever I go at the best (or should that be worst?) of times, if I was trying to hustle my way through crowds of velour clad nincompoops to grasp one of the last half price packs of super noodles it would be akin to a normal person plugging themselves into the national grid. Though it could be handy for getting them out of the way in the booze aisle.
I’m worried this has painted a bad picture of my life, as my shopping list appears to consist of instant noodles and booze. This would be fine if I was still a student, but those lovely days are long gone!
I mean they literally built an entire city from the ground up for this game- of course it should have been DLC.
If the campaign is all you bought it for then you're a bit mental anyway, but if you whizzed through the game on an easy setting and didn't spend time exploring the city... well you shouldn't have bought it in the first place... though you probably haven't anyway.
well i didnt get in trouble at work for renting it early,infact i couldnt find any document or email saying i couldnt....oh well i woulve taken it anyway, cus im a rebel
have to say mrpirtniw it is possible for people to genuinely buy a game and not like it even though they thought they would...case in point...infamous for me!..pile of average b******s twas imo
So far, so good for me. Had almost two hours with the SP on Legendary and I've only managed to get to the point where you face two Hunters on the first mission, who proceeded to beat me down harshly!
Looks like the campaign will definitely last me longer than 6 hours at this rate, as I'm more of a cautious player. It definitely is more tense playing as The Rookie too, as it's always in the back of your mind that he's no MC.
As for Zero_Cool, you knew in advance the campaign was short and assuming you've played the previous games, you should have whacked the difficulty on Legendary instead of running through it on Easy/Normal.
Yeah, I know Jake, but he has been stating that it was going to be rubbish since before it was released- along with slating many other console related topics. Hense why my crystal ball foretold of one of them (and by them I mean the Halo haters) was going to come out with a review such as that.
Another review... http://www.techunion.us/articles/id16.xbox-360.halo-3-odst-review.aml
If you want to wash the taste of that bad review away, the Gamepro video review says it's the best Halo game yet. Although, I must admit that Edge can be sometimes very weird with their reviews; in that, I sometimes agree with their reviews, but am sometimes downright baffled at the little hang ups they blow way out of proportion when reviewing certain games. I still subscribe, but I don't particularly trust their scores. I read the text and decide whether or not I feel the reviewer is insane.
However, I do think the decision not to have matchmaking in Firefight was a terrible one and will ruin that mode for many. Anyway, I've managed to play through the campaign mode now, and I'm pleased to report that I enjoyed every minute of it. The hub city is superb, yep it looks similar and yes it’s massive but your navigation stops you from wandering too aimlessly - plus, there's plenty to explore! The flashbacks are very well done indeed and this adds a lot of variety to the game to contrast with the hub.
Playing as an ODST does at first feel very similar to Master Chief, however one major difference soon becomes apparent, you feel more vulnerable. The fact that your health is not restored unless you find a med kit creates tension especially if it's in the middle of a gunfight, a beeping sound warns when your near death and continues until you find health (this beeping noise has upset a few people, I found it fine).
The Story is the most concise and well presented in any Halo game that's for sure, it's not going to win any literary awards or anything like that but it's entertaining and you can actually follow the plot, not many video games can say that. The only problem for me is that the game is so well balanced and presented it just leaves you wanting more, so much more just as the credits roll - it's a great game no doubts about that.
I think its good that they pulled the cast of firefly out of the dole cue for ODST. Although after a couple hours it did make me want to go watch said short lived show.
Brilliant game, its definately different than playing as Master Chief, i really like the visor mode, great way or spotting snipers and the like.
I used to absolutely adore the series, but Halo 3 just felt a bit flat to me when I returned to the 360 after a year with only a PS3.
Now I know that little has changed with the mechanics and hence I can't try and claim my personal preferences to be defects in the game. Ultimately, I am left with the conclusion that Halo is like Marmite.
I never thought it was revolutionary but rather that it just did what it did extremely well. I mean...futuristic power-ranger dude protects Earth against alien invaders......highly unoriginal plot, no?
After Halo 2 I got really into COD4 on the PS3 and GRAW 2 and when I went back to Halo it just seemed a bit too...mundane.
Interesting how one's tastes change because I can look back at myself and attest how enjoyable the Halo games are...whilst in the same breath knowing that the only game that is likely to interrupt my Frdiay afternoon siesta in the newxt few months will be the new Ghost Recon title...
A agree Shmuppet- but the opposite way round. Every time I play a COD game or Rainbow 6 or Ghost Recon I just find it all so... samey. Or it takes itself too seriously- not saying they're bad games (the hours I've spent in COD 2 and 4 multiplayer are ridiculous), but to me they always lack... something.
I find Halo is always refreshing to play. Also I think saying that Halo's story's about a power ranger who kills aliens is a little misleading- anything can be simplified to make it sound mundane! Halo has a great story and the games are just the tip of the iceberg!
No offence Shmuppet, but u really did give the cliff notes version of what the Spartans are. And it made them sound less interesting. I've been reading 'The fall of Reach' over the past few weeks, and these guys make the Power Rangers look like a bunch of teenagers running round in spandex suits and plastic helmets.
Personally I loved COD4 and Ghost recon. Can't wait for MW2.
ODST, in my opinion, is fantastic. The story is intriguing and well thought out, The hub is immense (I've found myself trying to sneak round Hunters only to run into a patrol of Brutes and grunts which alerted the hunters anyway, I survived too, ) and the set pieces are typical halo fun. And I do panic a little when that siren starts going off and I need to find health!
Just completed it and thought it was ace. As a full game it shouldn't get 9/10, but as an expansion to Halo 3 I think it does - at least an 8.5: it's one hell of an expansion for £30.
The free-roaming New Mombasa nighttime bits are a nice way to pin together the story elements, but it doesn't add a lot to the story. Knowing that it was more of an experiment to see how they can implement it into later games seems to make its inclusion make more sense.
Anyone who plays this, by the way, don't ever think it's a good idea to hide in one of the bins and let the lid close on you - took me about 5 minutes to get out of that one!
And I now understand why "Where are you, Maddie?" was in that teaser trailer. It seemed very suspect at the time, but I can now see that it was clearly a coincidence and they changed the name to Sadie. As such you will now see the same screen flash up saying "Where are you, Sadie?". I actually feel a bit dirty for having questioned Bungie's motives on that one...
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New flavour of play in the open-world Mombasa
If you find Halo average at best, why bother buying this?
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), so obviously that mode is something I can't benefit from.
then you've actually read it and will know that Xbox World wrote that and not us, right? 
...highly unoriginal plot, no?
