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EA expects PS3.5 and Xbox 560 before next gen

CCO thinks Sony and Microsoft will focus on console updates
EA's chief creative officer, Rich Hilleman, expects Sony and Microsoft to focus on updates to existing hardware before releasing next generation consoles.

Speaking about the "re-engineering" of the game business at the Hot Chips conference, he said that Sony and Microsoft nearly expired getting the PS3 and Xbox 360 to market, and are therefore not likely to be in any rush to release brand new home consoles.

"I expected we'll see a PlayStation 3.5 before we see a PlayStation 4 and an Xbox 560 before we see an Xbox 720," he said, according to VentureBeat.

Hilleman also said that online will play an increasingly dominant role in the industry's future. "The biggest shift is how fast packaged goods games are changing and going away. If I want to go to see the past of gaming, I go to Japan. If I want to see the future, I go to Korea."

He noted that there are currently around 28,000 internet game rooms in South Korea where users pay an hourly fee to use PCs online. About half of the country's population of 48 million plays games, he added.

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i was watching the gadget show about south korean a while ago and the translator was getting 1000mbps download for £7.50 a month!
adgr19 on 28 Aug '09
Suits + News = Mmmmmmm Confused
StonecoldMC on 28 Aug '09
I completely agree with the guy. What are the Motion controllers for the PS3 and Natal, but a way to extend both consoles lifespans using suplimentary hardware.

Both machines have still got a lot to give, and if they can get devs to wring every last ounce of power out of the current machines then we'd really have something special to look forward to next gen.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 28 Aug '09
@adgr19
I saw that too, I wish I could have that connection. I pay twice that for 2mb Sad

Of course they'll carry on with updates on the current systems, but I wouldn't put it past either company to release a new console pretty sharpish if the Motion Controllers flop. I would expect 2011 for a new console to be announced. I actually expect a few, I could see Microsoft releasing new hardware and I could also see new handhelds from Nintendo & Sony. As great as the DS & PSP are, they are becoming out of date now, both have been out since 2004 with only a month difference between the Japanese release dates. 2011, or even 2010, would be good times to see successors to them (and proper ones as well, not like the PSPGo and DSi).

There can, however, be no true evolution in games without new hardware.
lordirongut on 28 Aug '09
we do get ripped off over here on many a scale, especially when it comes down to our broadband services! grrrr
angelus1karl on 28 Aug '09
@adgr19
I saw that too, I wish I could have that connection. I pay twice that for 2mb Sad

Of course they'll carry on with updates on the current systems, but I wouldn't put it past either company to release a new console pretty sharpish if the Motion Controllers flop. I would expect 2011 for a new console to be announced. I actually expect a few, I could see Microsoft releasing new hardware and I could also see new handhelds from Nintendo & Sony. As great as the DS & PSP are, they are becoming out of date now, both have been out since 2004 with only a month difference between the Japanese release dates. 2011, or even 2010, would be good times to see successors to them (and proper ones as well, not like the PSPGo and DSi).

There can, however, be no true evolution in games without new hardware.

I don't know so much. Before this gen i would have agreed with you. but seeing the level of grpical fidelity in both the 360 and PS3 i think we've hit a plateau where graphically there isn't many places left to go. Therefore whats needed is a change in how we play games not what they look like. We've been using joypads for 20+ years. Its about time they were given a rethink.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 28 Aug '09
While I agree that there aren't any real advances being made in graphics right now, that's about to change. This gen we got programmable pixel shaders, which meant higher quality appearance without increased polycount. Next gen will be real-time raytracing.

Thing is, I'm not interested in changing HOW I play games. Keyboard and mouse has worked for 20 years on PC, no reason to suddenly change that on consoles.

I keep arguing this, but when I finish work after a long day, I'm tired. If I can't play games without waving my arms around then I'm not going to play them at all. As an option, yes, but not as the only control method. If this becomes standard I will quit console gaming altogether, and I'm sure I can't be the only one.
Dajmin on 28 Aug '09
While I agree that there aren't any real advances being made in graphics right now, that's about to change. This gen we got programmable pixel shaders, which meant higher quality appearance without increased polycount. Next gen will be real-time raytracing.

Thing is, I'm not interested in changing HOW I play games. Keyboard and mouse has worked for 20 years on PC, no reason to suddenly change that on consoles.

I keep arguing this, but when I finish work after a long day, I'm tired. If I can't play games without waving my arms around then I'm not going to play them at all. As an option, yes, but not as the only control method. If this becomes standard I will quit console gaming altogether, and I'm sure I can't be the only one.

I believe that would be known as cutting your nose off to spite your face...
milky_joe on 28 Aug '09
yes but there are very few games in which you actually wave your arms in any particuly forceful manner. For every wii sports or fit there are a hundred wii games that you can play in the traditional manner of sat on your bottom relaxing. Hell you can even snack while your doing it.

I think pointer control more than motion is what sets the wii apart from the competition. (although the 1:1 control of the swordfighting in wiisports resort and in Tiger woods are absolutely brilliant.)

Dual Analogue sticks in comparison to pointer control are incredibly innacrate and sluggish. point and shoot is definately the way forward, and the closest thing to mouse and keyboard on a console.
WHERESMYMONKEY on 28 Aug '09
Shouldn't that be Xbox 540?
Havoc72 on 28 Aug '09
All this talk about an Xbox 560 or 720 is retarded anyway. The reason Microsoft gave it that name was because in marketing terms they didn't want an Xbox 2 competing with a Playstation 3 as people would consider it inferior, hence the 360 monikor. There's no way Microsoft are gonna call the next Xbox a 720. It wouldn't make sense.
cian84 on 28 Aug '09
much as i like the idea of the downloadable part of game buying it sucks a bit that surely this will bring the end of game discounting and 2nd hand games. i'd find it hard to have the buying power i do now without them.

all prices controleld by the maker of machine smells of bad news. look at the games on demand for xbox prices to see the expensive future.
benedictm on 28 Aug '09
Maybe MS should call it's next console XBOX 48H, becuase that will be the average life span in hours. Before it predictabley has a meltdown...


Oh ah ha ha..
Cool
harvoid on 28 Aug '09
360 + 180 = 540, sorry just had to point that out
dookiephonic on 28 Aug '09
I think we will see big software updates not hardware. The motion control will extend the life of the current consoles by a year or so.
footieharry on 28 Aug '09
But the Xbox 560 is 20 better than the Xbox 540. Very Happy


Late 2010/Early 2011: MS release a new Xbox with Natal bundled in, a 500gb HDD and wifi built in.

I called it first.
Matriculated on 28 Aug '09
So, no one read the article that microsoft are more for focusing on the software/hardware rather then a next gen console right now?, same with ps3?
KMakawa on 28 Aug '09
If Wii doesn't do very well this Christmas (unlikely) I expect we could see Wii 2 within the year... if they don't have it already...!

I can't see a interim Playstation or XBOX coming out before Wii 2.
Padua on 28 Aug '09
Personally I'm fine with the 360 & PS3 sticking round for another three or so years, at this point in time there's no need to create a new console since it would probably only be a slight increase in graphics. Also the only console on the market that could do with an upgrade is the Wii. And I don't think there's a new handheld coming from nintendo in the near future since the dsi has about twice the power of the lite (aprantly) and of course there's the dsi virtual console that's still yet to leave japan, I'd say three or so years before nintendo announces a new handheld, as for the psp, that could probably do with a new console replacement but I'm not going to judge it since I've never used one.
Athrun888 on 28 Aug '09
Xbox 360 sounds cool, but I doubt the next xbox will be called the xbox 72o. Prehaps something like the Xbox Infinitive! Very Happy
Joshinator2008 on 28 Aug '09
I expect MS to release XBOX 1080:

1. Crossfire 360 GPU
2. Quad core CPU
3. 1 GB of DDR3

This can only happen after they release .45nm.
mpeg3s on 29 Aug '09
blahg balh blah
Cool xbox 360 is the purfect concole, they will be no other evr. may teel you all now, mark may txt.
Cool may speek with greet wisdom and justice.
Cool this concludes this matter. /win
xboxrulez on 29 Aug '09
Larger hard drive, smaller/faster CPU + GPU and about three times more RAM, all in a sexy little black plastic case. Very Happy
ted1138 on 30 Aug '09
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