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 Digg.com Facebook Google Bookmarks N4G Gamerblips del.icio.us Reddit Slashdot.org StumbleUpon That's because noone can work out how. I think Gurilla did a pretty good job. I think about the best anyone got out of it was Guerrilla with KZ2, but it doesn't need to be maxed to get stunning results. I'm actually getting a bit bored with photorealism, I, personally would like more games in Valkyria Chronicles or Eternal Sonata style, or the upcoming Final Fantasies. Valkyria and Eternal Sonata barely touch on what the PS3 can do, but they are still brilliant. Disgaea 3, also, is a graphical whore's worst nightmare, but it is still brilliantly deep and entertaining. Photorealistic graphics are boring, I don't want a game to feel like real life! Naughty Dog should give it a good workout with Uncharted 2. Gameplay before eye candy please! Usually GT was showing what playstation is capable of. Am I bad for thinking this will be the same guy who in 6 months time who will be promoting his new 'Crytek' Game and proclaiming it to have maxxed out the PS3 and 360 :lol: ? so ps3 was to weak for you guys wen you were doing your crysis on pc
then all of a sudden ps3 is all that and then some and its soooooooo powerful
the least pushed hardware this gen by 3rd partys is the wii ironically
theoretical power is never reached and more so with sonys hardware as its always so poorly designed and inefficient....with crappy ram and disc speed also
cell cpu is a horrid design and plagued with latency issues and a tiny catch memory
AND WHO PLAYS FPS ON OUTDATED CONTROL PADS ANYWAY Urm... well about 250'000 people were online in Halo 3 last time I checked. God knows how many more on COD, Killzone 2, Gears etc... Hmmm... I think we know the answer to why, because people can't seem to get their head around it. Killzone 2 proved that it can be a powerful console under the right development plan, plus Uncharted 2 is due to come out in october, so we'll see how that fares out. But still, if crytek want to prove they can bring out the best in PS3, then they'll have to make Crysis 2 and show us why. well not all of us have obese american hands like most 360 owners. even looking at a wii makes you sweat.
360 pad is just a revision of the even fatter original pad.
And as the saying goes if it works dont fix it.
the only thing 360 pad is good for is the uncountable amount of repetitive fps games in the 360s repetoire. where the dualshock 3 mops the floor with 360 pad in any fighting game. well not all of us have obese american hands like most 360 owners. even looking at a wii makes you sweat.
360 pad is just a revision of the even fatter original pad.
And as the saying goes if it works dont fix it.
the only thing 360 pad is good for is the uncountable amount of repetitive fps games in the 360s repetoire. where the dualshock 3 mops the floor with 360 pad in any fighting game. kingwiiboy101
Cant afford a PS3 yet :( i feel sorry for you, not really
& Wii LoL its biggest rip off ever, A GameCube with infra red (motion sensor LoL) controller is worth over £100? But it aimed for little kids & women what do expect they dont know any better.
& For PC, PS3 owners do have a life i don't have time to keep upgrading & have better things to do my money then buy PC which you can fit TV stand (over £500) & With games like Killzone, God or War & Uncharted which are pushing technology compared to PC?
If not interested in those games fair enough but most of you are just lying StoP being so cheap you only live once you SAD B*st*rds Have a look at this, and see what you think about it!
Your thoughts?? The PS3 is a great machine with as yet unseen potential. That's why I got a 60gb (250gb now) model so that I can play THE best back catalogue of games on any console(PS1 and 2) and can look forward to the best games that this generation will deliver on PS3.
Not being a betting type of person I've also got a 120gb 360, just for those exclusives, cheaper games than PS3 when multiformat and reduced prices quicker for some reason and also for those multiformat games where the developers can't be arsed to get the full potential from the PS3.
Let's hope that with the help that Crytek can give developers, the cryengine can start to push games beyond the capabilities of the 360 for some really spectacular future PS3 releases. I get the feeling graphics will be held back by the weakest console, as developers are developing games in tandem and costs will be too high to develop two seperately. We've seen it with the PS2 holding the wii back to some extent.
From this I doubt you'll ever see multi platform games that much different because its cheaper to develop on the 360 and it's got the larger install base.
The graphics are great as they are, I don't think we'll see HUGE differences, but we'll see. Even if the 360 didn't exist, the PS3 would still be hard to get the most out of. Like my old boss would say "You talk a good job,now fecking get on with it". graphics war is dead over finished and crytech talks graphics to hype sales THOSE DAYS ARE GONE
AGUING OVER EVER SO SLIGHT DIFFERENCES oh direct 10 oh look mines 11 oh look mine is opengl2.1
its over its dead 3d has capped out all that gets offered is a wii bit more each pc gpu card that comes out
its boring its out dated its old
dont ******** us x360 pc and ps3 are in real terms on par if you polish code to a platform you get good performance "its boring its out dated its old"
Much like your comments my good fellow. :wink: I honestly am not interested in FPSs on console anymore.
My most anticipated game right now is Demon's Souls, which has good graphics, nothing more, but that is all that is needed.
You don't have to 'max' out a console's capabilities everytime, but I suppose the Halo/CoD crowd are a shallow bunch when it comes to their games and don't look at anything that doesn't have the latest graphics engine.
Shame. I would be interested in seeing what crytek could create under the sheer power of the PS3. Although i'm a PC and 360 owner, i would still love to see a really good reason to buy the PS3 (although little big planet is convincing to purchase one).
But someone mentioned about games becoming too 'photo realistic' and i must agree with that chap. Why not instead have a medium to high levels of graphics, nothing ground breaking but still equally awesome.
But rather put there money and resources into very high levels of AI, something of which is truly breath taking and leaves you stunned. Because i know for one, as soon as you play a game for about 3/4 hours the games graphics are not the complete driving force for my continued enjoyment of the game. Although i can appreciate various other ares are required in a game e.g. Level Design, gameplay etc but i still feel AI is 5 years behind current tech. I dunno if you guys can remember, but the whole fallout 3 thing, where everyone was saying the ps3 had the worst graphics out of the 3 versions? I dunno about any of you, but whatever system i look at fallout 3 on, i still see a messy screen of brown and gray shit. Graphics war is done! The only people still going on about them are pathetic game companies who think mentioning how they will tap the potential of a console will sell their shitty games. The two other types of games companies are 1) The shit stirrers (these guys like to bait the console war, activision, ms, sony, nintendo), and 2) The Money Grabbers (repetetive games, similar locations, boring array of weapons/items, pretty much milking a series for all its worth, EA, Bungie, Activision). You sometimes get good companies that don't **** with the customer and don't bait fanboys, such as rockstar, but they're rare.
Shame! I am not a fan of 'Bimbo games'. All nice and pretty, but so shallow and with little imagination. Gameplay first please. It's a cliche, but it's still true. You never wondered why they call it Killz-OWN? :P ...the ps3 has been out for a few years now and i haven't seen a game on it yet that i thought "the 360 couldn't do that".....the ps3 should be romping all over the 360 but it isn't... You've obviously haven't seen Killzone 2. Despite my initial doubts it absolutely scourged my eyeballs. Makes the fairly-lush-looking Gears look like a PS2 game! :o
Tis also said that MAG is not possible on the 360. Will be interesting to see.... Not really, a lot of people(including me)thinks killzone 2 didn't have a single scene that matched that gears 2 scene near the beginning when you travel on the giant trawler type tank things.
While being attacked by a number of massive impressive creatures.
I saw lots of fancy explosion effects in killzone 2, but it never 'wow'd' me as much as it seems to have with some people.
It was stuck at the bog standard 30fps as well, hardly a technical masterpiece.
Uncharted 2 will be the game that really shows off the ps3's power.
The demo looks better than anything i've seen on the 360 so far(i own both machines). most def and ND, alot of ps3s games are the best ive played on a console this gen and look amazing then anything on consoles too me just compare GT5 to forza 3. eurogamer said GT looks more detailed and impressive.
and thats with forza spilling over to 2 discs to try its best. I agree with SVD! :wink:
Hmmm, that rhymes.... ...not starting a console war, mind you. Just found that I got bored of Gears pretty quick due to it lookig pretty much identical to the first one.
I think Killzone has a softer look but with much better lighting, effects, etc.... i cant wait too see GT5 gameplay, i find forza boring, all i like is modding your car, i even find gt5p fun and enjoyable and that only has 6 tracks and less cars and i been playing it since release day and its a prologue my eyeballs melted when i saw killzone in action, i have to admit. it is absolutely light years ahead of any other game. sorry, but definitely even better than gears 2. If GT5 isn't the best racer we've seen so far i'll be staggered.
It's been in development for so long, i can't see it failing.
Forza 3 will be fun, but i doubt it'll come close to GT5 in terms of quality.
English Shmuppet, it's just our opinion's on killzone 2 and gears of war 2, lots of people have different opinion's on both games(no console war).
I enjoyed both games, that's the advantage about owning both machines. GT5 might look better, but Forza has been in development for only a fraction of the time that GT has. It really should've been out long ago. Is it worth waiting that long for a game that looks slightly better?. the finished package will outshine forza heavily. 8)
yes it will have been worth the wait. plus its not like i was *waiting*... i'll just pick it up when its out. whenever that may be. Couldn't care less if GT has a couple of hundred extra polygons thrown around at any one time- it's the racing itself that keeps you coming back and that's why I generally prefer Forza.
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Why are we talking about racing games again? how can you compare two games you have never played?! :?
who ever included that rewind feature taken out of GRID should be shot. im starting to wonder if sony supports their 3rd party developers properly.
for free radical to say that obviously sony was not supporting them properly if they were why would they be having problems?
epic bungie ubisoft all 3rd party developers who are eating out of M$ hat, their constantly praising M$ how they support their 3rd partys.
i dont hear 3rd party devs saying the same about sony.
this is probably why splinter cell conviction is not on the ps3, because while making haze sony did not support ubisoft so they say fine why should we give you SPC if your not willing to help us.
thanks sony........... thanks allot. I was talking about about the brand- I've played the GT games and I've played the Forza games and so far the Forza games, in my opinion, are more fun to play.
Maybe the new GT will be better, but it'll take more than graphics to win me round.
And the rewinding time thing- you don't have to use it- you can switch it off. It's just something for the n00bs to use. And if n00bs enjoy the game too then there'll hopefully be more sales- so why not? Your pretty much bang on there. The problem (I once read somewhere) is that the current gen consoles (well, xbox & PS3) are geared to displaying amazing graphics and fantastic physics simulation, a kind of processing that simply doens't adapt well to performing the simultaneous, multi-branching logic that advanced AI requires.
I agree with you that this is a massive shame. Although I have to admit I am a complete sucker for fancy graphics I think even a whore for them like me would trade them off a bit for a far better AI. selling out is always microsofts game.
sony has allowed its dev double the time to work on its game - there will have been two next gen forzas by the time one next gen GT is out.
its all about the sales for them. they tried to rush PGR4 out and bizare jumped ship afterwards on completition.
and support was one major reason cited by rockstar for developing agent on ps3. I'm not surprised the PS3 hasn't shown its potential, seeing as the development is lead from the front for the 360 first, and all other consoles next. A lot of the games are just 360 ports. Invalid.
Bethisda and Rockstar have both talked about how much good support they get from sony.
this is probably why the Agent is not on xbox :lol: ..i have killzone2 and gears2....gears2 wowed me more than killzone. Killzone was good but nothing exciting...just my opinion.
i just think that by now the ps3 should be streets ahead of the 360 if its supposed to be that good...but its not...theres hardly any difference graphically between the two....and that pad is a pain in the bum but thats another thread entirely!! You're meant to hold the pad in your hands Davidc!!!
But I agree, the pads are awful. May as well be made of stickle bricks. 360 was easy to develop for already... and had more than a years head start.
the ps3 will pull out in front when the devs have the same amount of experience on it. ...so people keep saying... so you're better off waiting until the devs know what they're doing with the PS3 before buying one? Hey you should work for sony!
or could it be that there's just not that much difference between ps3 and 360? ..damn...no wonder i find killzone2 hard to control.... :D would help if most games werent a lazy 360 port.
games that have been developed on ps3 from scratch are just as good - CoD4, burnout etc.
ps3 specific games shine better. love to see what rockstar north do with agent, ps3 and BR. no crossplatform to cater for. LOL Killzone made Gears 2 look like a PS2 game...
For starters, no. Just no. Secondly, I didn't enjoy Killzone half as much as Gears. Graphics do not a great game make.
That's not to say the 'graphics war' (war? A war where graphics are fighting... Graphics? A graphics civil war? Graphics war sounds like a headline from The Sun) is over, there is always going to be a place for artistic direction. I would much rather play Shadow of the Collosus or Okami than Killzone any day of the week though.
Ultimately, style without substance is meaningless. However much power there is left in PS3 doesn't really matter, if the gameplay mechanics aren't holding up, eye candy doesn't count for jack.
It's a little concerning that a lot of PS3 owners have latched onto this as a 'yeah PS3 will win in the end' rallying cry, when all it really demonstrates is how much emphasis you place on visuals, and shallow your consideration is towards your preferred machine. @ yougoglencoco09
Your talking horseshit, I have a PS3 and a 360 and the 360 pad is much better, the PS3 dual shock pad feels cheap and is too small (and I'm not a big guy). I think microsoft have a USP with the 360 controller, its solid and very comfortable to hold, the PS3 pad just feels like a childs toy, not to mention your fingers slip off the sticks and usually at the worst moment.
Bring out a better pad Sony.....and some decent games, if Killzone 2 is the best you can offer me I'm sticking my PS3 on ebay, roll on ME2! the pads are near perfect. for every person who doesnt like them theres hundreds who do so who cares what you think? The PS2/3 controller is only perfect if you don't have any other pad to compare it with. This is such a tit for tat debate. Each to their own I say. It's like arguing over who's cigarettes are best. Lambert and Butler taste the best, no Superkings do... Either way they both give you cancer and make your balls smaller Invalid.
Bethisda and Rockstar have both talked about how much good support they get from sony.
this is probably why the Agent is not on xbox :lol:
bethesda?
o you mean that company that released that game called fallout 3?
that game where every single time a person signed in the game would freeze?
or the game when after played for 1 hour would freeze every time?
yea they really had allot of support from sony, so why is the game still broken as hell?
R* i can understand but than they have been exclusive to sony for how many years, so you would expect that.
M$ has a shit load more 3rd parties eating out of there that than sony does. Getting back to the guy's comments (why has this turned into another PS3 vs 360 thread - tedious!) the problems with Haze weren't just technical, they also included poor design and lack of original ideas! Your mother. Please please CrytecUK give us a cryengine powered Timesplitters Imagine a world with one console a monopoly on prices lack of variety you all need to get a grip let's not let another console die like the dreamcast competion makes is the winners | 
