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Contrary to reports Xbox Live won't be down today while Microsoft implements its new dashboard update. Here's a movie of the new stuff.

Microsoft's XBL spokesman, Major Nelson, has confirmed via Twitter that the service will continuing running as normal while the update is rolled out worldwide. If fact the update is now available he says.

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"Moments ago, the team released a system update (aka Dash update) to all Xbox Live members," says Nelson. "Over the next few hours - or the next time you sign into Xbox Live after that - you'll receive a prompt to accept this mandatory update. If you participated in our Preview Program, you already have the update and will not be prompted."

He adds, "This update will be rolled out to all Xbox Live members around the world over the space of a few hours, so you may not get prompted for the update immediately." As it may take a while for the update to reach your neck of the woods, why not take a look at 136 new avatar pics while you wait?

Biggies like Twitter and Facebook functionality aren't due until later in the year, but this update will give you access to:

  • Games On Demand - Download Xbox 360 titles, such as Mass Effect and Viva Pinata. Find the full list over on OXM.

  • Avatar Marketplace - Buy premium items for your avatar, such as Gears of War clothing.

  • User Ratings - Rate (out of five) every item on Marketplace and see other items that are highly rated.

  • Xbox Live Parties - More flexible options for Xbox Live Parties will be added.

Superstar analyst Michael Pachter expects Microsoft to experiment with pricing options for its new Xbox 360 Games On Demand service "until it gets it right." More on that here.

Let you fellow readers know what you think of the new dashboard features below.

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Posted by Mark240473
If the games were £10.00 each, it would have been a really exciting update. As it is, it's about as exciting as a halfway house, PS3 firmware update.

Bobbins.
Posted by wyabcp1
I've had the pre update for a while, it's a good step forward. I can't seem to find out where you're supposed to be able to display how long you've been a Live member though ? I thought this was also part of the update...

Avatar marketplace is great! I might go out and buy new underwear for my Avatar... :roll:
Posted by steve_2003
Having had the update during the beta phase, I have to say the biggest improvement is the faster & smoother running of the dashboard overall.

..although, being able to "dress to impress" in my Monkey Island outfit, while driving my remote controlled warthog does come a close second! 8)
Posted by Black Mantis
I like that we can rate games as well. I gave the Ninja Turtles remake 1*. Awful game. :evil:
Posted by HammersUK
Ive just switched on the xbox but no update, just signed in. :?
Posted by Conkers
The pricing of the games is indeed bobbins, but the rest of it is not. The speed of the interface has been increased drastically (well at least it had done on the beta, time will tell if that was temporary), and the size of installation for quite a few games has been decreased, both very good things! There are quite a few other things, some aesthetic and some functional, but all generally helpful.

Oh, and Trials HD comes tomorrow, not part of the update but I’m looking forward to it a lot.
Posted by ricflair
I was never going to give a toss about Games on Demand, you can get most of those games for less than a tenner and I just couldn't see them making them cheaper than that anyway. XBLA etc is fine for me.

Best thing from my point of view is the speed of the guide and the reduced size of the HDD installs - the last one is very, very good. I've only done one and FIFA went from 6gb to around 5gb and some have apparently dropped by 40% or so.

I'm sure some of the chat/party improvements will come in handy at some point, but it's hardly a deal breaker!
Posted by Conkers
Oh and this, this is an important aspect of it, especially for Indie Games that otherwise would be lost in a sea of mediocrity.
Posted by Mark240473
To be honest, I never had a problem with the 360 interface, long before the blades were cast aside for the avatar stuff. I've certainly never had a problem with the speed of the interface.

What is this Trials HD? I haven't heard of that one.

Off subject by quite a margin, but what is the score with Wolfenstein? I know very little about the game, yet it is released this week!

Anyone?
Posted by Mark240473
I played the demo the other day, and it truly was awful. It seemed too easy for a start.

It will be interesting to see what games stand at the top of the ratings, in a couple of weeks.

I'm still waiting to spend my 800 points. The last game that I tried was Xplosion Man, which seemed fun at first, but became really repetitive after just a few minutes.
Posted by Conkers
The actual interface itself has never been a problem for me, though some reported it as so, the one thing that was though was waiting for DL options to appear on a game. Previously it would take up to 20 seconds or so, now it’s done in two.

Remember Kickstart? Well now think Trials HD is that, but all glossy and lovely:

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/exclusive-emotional-trials-hd-trailer

it looks brilliant, and has garnered rather good reviews so far, and it’s out tomorrow.

As for Wolfenstein, it’s probably because it’s going to be rubbish, and the developer knows it, therefore now first peeks, no exclusive reviews, just a quite insertion into the market and hope people buy it because of its name.
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
Its in the top right corner of your gamer card. Its the big number in the yellow cirlce.

The best thing i'd say about the update is that it makes NXE work a lot smoother, It also drops the space it takes to install games. It shaved 200mb off of both fallout 3 and Fable 2.

apparently it makes King of fighters only a 750mb install.

Pretty snazzy. The new stuff to buy on the other hand is all overpriced
Posted by Mark240473
Kickstart! That's the one. Please read my post on the Trials HD thread and you'll find that you have just won yourself a dose of kudos.

Pretty worrying regarding Wolfenstein, too....
Posted by zodyack
At the risk of asking an obvious question to those people who've already updated: will I need to uninstall and reinstall the games to see the reduced install size or is it somehow automatic?
Posted by Conkers
You do unfortunately yes, still, it frees up space if you need to!
Posted by HammersUK
Still no update for yet, is there something wrong?
Posted by wyabcp1
Where do I find on my gamercard how long i've been a Live member for :? ... this is really important :D
Posted by zodyack
No worries, that's kind of what I'd expected. I agree though that it's worth the time to do it to save on the space. Thanks for the answer :-)
Posted by Dajmin
It's times like these I wish I had more than the 20Gb hard drive. I've got less than 4Gb left so I can't even install a single game, let alone worry about shaving a mere 200Mb off one. Stupid crazy pricing.

Interested in Trials HD, but waiting to see how much replayability it has. Local multiplayer could be fun too.
Posted by wyabcp1
I've only got 20gb drive, but I've removed all the stuff i don't need and now i have enough room for at least to game installs, (12gb)
Posted by caodonnell
Kick Start now thats a blast from the past.
Posted by ricflair
Some of the installs knock much more than 200mb off. Apparently L4D installs 1.3gb smaller, and Battlefield: Bad Company, 1.6gb smaller.

Seeing as you only have 13gb to play with (that is a ****ing shocker, MS should be hung for that - what takes up 7GB? Don't think XP takes up that much space!!), you might be able to get an extra game on there or at least have two games and plenty of space for xbla games/demos.

Better than a kick in the face I suppose. Although some people have bought the 60gb kit for £50, then sold their 20GB drive for about £20 or so, the 3month xbl code for £10 and the second headset for £10, meaning you only pay about £10 for it. Phone up MS, get a free transfer kit sent to you and flog that too and you're probably breaking even!

Or check out avforums or hukd and be quick when cheap 120gb drives come up for sale!
Posted by StonecoldMC
If I were to unistall say both Banjos, Bionic Commando and another XBLA Game, could I then re install them without any further charge?
Posted by steve_2003
Those £1.99 Mastertronic titles, Kickstart, BMX Racers, Vegas Jackpot,Kane...£1.99!!!!!
those were the days... :cry:
Posted by o Raging Bull o
£19.99 :twisted:

I have to say the new avatar stuff is cool,especially the Splinter Cell outfit. :D
Posted by ricflair
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Yep, once you've bought them under your gamer tag, you can delete and download them as much as you want. You can even download them onto someone elses xbox HDD, but you then have to sign in online to play them I believe.

Before I got my 60gb drive, I was always chopping and changing what took up that spare gig or so.

Just make sure you are using the orignal 360 you bought them on, otherwise you wont be able to play offline.
Posted by cjw101
Yeah, they're linked to your account, so it knows you've already paid for them and can download them again at no extra cost.
Posted by Dajmin
Yes, they're tied to your account so you can delete and redownload them as often as you want.

My issue isn't game installs, it's saved stuff. Forza 2, for example, eats over 700Mb of my drive. GTA4 isn't far behind. Burnout Paradise takes the cake, with well over 1.1Gb in updates. I have practically no DLC or XBLA games that I can clean up. When Forza 3 comes out I'll obviously get rid of the FM2 stuff. It's madness.

I've been thinking of picking up a 120Gb drive on the cheap, but don't know what the score is with transferring all my stuff without the transfer cable. Can I just stick all my saves on a USB drive and them import it all manually? I'd hate to lose access to the stuff I HAVE bought just because I wanted to save some money.
Posted by StonecoldMC
Im going to have to invest in a better HDD myself, the 20G is just nowhere near enough space for me, thanks to all for answering my (stupid) question :D .

Also, im sure that someone on here spoke about phoning MS and requesting a free transfer cable when your upgrading your hard drive.

Can anyone confirm this (not more questions!?!) :oops: ?
Posted by headspin
its on your profile in a little yellow circle next to your gamertag, mines 4 yrs

:wink:
Posted by gogo65uk
Guess I will switch my xbox on for the first time in a month just to update it even if nothing interesting is on the update. peace folks.
Posted by ricflair
If you get a 120gb drive, you might get one with it - am not sure. If not MS will send you one for free, or you can have mine.

If you have a decent internet connection, it's quicker to delete the downloaded stuff on your 20gb drive and redownload it. I get 1.5MB/sec downloads easily on XBL.
Posted by ricflair
»

Got mine for free, took about ten days to get to me though. I'm happy to spread the love with it though and send it on if others promise to either send it on or return it to me - i.e not sell it!!!
Posted by pp82
The number on your gamercard only starts if you been a gold member for a year with no breaks i.e Using pre -paid cards and your subscription runs out without you putting in another card/code. To help prevent this from happening you will now get reminders when your subscription is about to end.
Posted by shellster2
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Yep you can get a cable for free and it doesn't come with the drive by default. I'd recommend doing a complete transfer over between drives. I switched from 20Gb to 120Gb in about an hour i think. dead easy.

on the switching drives machines front for XBLA games, initially you can't play them unless your on live, however you can do a content transfer license. http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/support/drm/

i think you can only do this once every 12 months but they might have changed it.

all my regular games are hard drive installed now. it's a lot quieter that's for sure!
Posted by pp82
Also you can only use the transfer cables once. Link xbox support http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/console/datamigration.htmundefined
Posted by wyabcp1
thanks, can you only view it on the console itself ? at the moment i'm trying to find it on the Live My Xbox web page...
Posted by ricflair
I 'think' that just relates to the old 20GB drive. Basically meaning that the 20GB is wiped after use and only works when upgrading drives.

I think.
Posted by shellster2
yeah, you can use the cable as many times as you like.
Posted by Dajmin
According to everything I read on my searches this morning, the transfer cable automatically formats the old drive when the transfer is done, no matter the size.
Posted by JuiKuen
I've seen there's a setting on there to say what videos you're watching. I tried it with a friend to see (I used a DVD and he a downloaded from internet movie file) and neither of showed what we were watching. Is this just for stuff you've rented off Live then?
Posted by ricflair
It does. I think that is what the 'use once' is referring too.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090313043700AA6tXO5.

Not sure where the disk that came with mine is though. Hmmmmm, I'll have a look later.
Posted by metallicorphan
Rockstars Table Tennis for 20 quid???..it was a budget title when it was released in 2006,in fact i got it back then in a 2 for 20 quid offer
Posted by OptimusFrag
I'm on the preview program and It's a lot quicker and more reponsive than the old dash.

The extra monitor settings, while minor, are a help if you've high end TV. The new avatar stuff is cool but costs far too much for some of the stuff.

The biggie is the veteran status on your profile. I was a Europe beta tester so I've big fat 6 on my profile. Suck it newbies!!!
Posted by wyabcp1
I'll be joining ya...as a fellow beta tester too (shame we lost our shiny B on the live forums though) will it show on the web page interface?
Posted by wyabcp1
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Any possible chance I could take you up on that ? I could make use of it before sending it on, or returning it ... ?:)
Posted by JuiKuen
I do think its annoying now that I have to scroll up two places to get to My Xbox when signing in. I don't care about what's hot or whatever. I just want to access my stuff. Is there no way around this?

And yes, the Turtles remake is pants. Not a patch on the arcade original or SNES version
Posted by JuiKuen
I do think its annoying now that I have to scroll up two places to get to My Xbox when signing in. I don't care about what's hot or whatever. I just want to access my stuff. Is there no way around this?

And yes, the Turtles remake is pants. Not a patch on the arcade original or SNES version
Posted by JuiKuen
I do think its annoying now that I have to scroll up two places to get to My Xbox when signing in. I don't care about what's hot or whatever. I just want to access my stuff. Is there no way around this?

And yes, the Turtles remake is pants. Not a patch on the arcade original or SNES version
Posted by oOo ZOMBIE oOo
WHO PRICES THESE GAMES ON DEMAND £19.99!!!DONT BUY ALL AVAILABLE FOR £5 ON E BAY ROBBING MICROSOFT AGAIN
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
There was an option in the settings tab to make the welcome tab go away. then it sends you straight to my xbox in stead.
Posted by wyabcp1
Well it appears that you only get to see how long a Gamertag has been active when looking at the 360 dashboard, you cannont view this information when using the Xbox Live web page... bit of a shame really as I'd like to show off my big fat 6 everywhere :(
Posted by mookistar
A little underwhelming if i'm honest. no free props whatsoever :(
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