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 Digg.com Facebook Google Bookmarks N4G Gamerblips del.icio.us Reddit Slashdot.org StumbleUpon I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate Games for windows Live. Hopefully this makes it more bearable. Baby steps Whatever. Why can't they just stick to their side of the fence and leave those of us whom aren't pirates, etc. alone? The obvious answer is of course that because there are pirates who hide amongst our ranks we get targeted as well. The only thing such ham fisted tactics induce is a deep sense of resentment which eventually breeds contemptuous loathing and outright hatred. I refused to buy GTA IV for the PC because it required a LIVE account registration along with a R* registration. I bought it second hand for my Xbox 360 and neither R* nor MS gained a penny from it! Hah! Burn in hell LIVE; that way you can keep DRM company. :twisted: I actually sold my unfinished version of GTA4 on the ps3 for the PC version, something ive never done before. I dont regret it as its far better on the PC but...that Rockstar/windows live ******** still makes my blood boil. Once both where setup I never had to think about them again but I bought it through steam so to play online im using Steam, rockstar's pointless thing and that shitstain Windows Live. Anyone I hardly bothered, insane!!!!
Fallout 3 (am I the only person that thinks its crap?) told me to DL a patch before I could play it, Windows Live failed this simple task and after an hour I just found it on a website. SF4 online sucks because of live. Im going to go on it tonight and see if it works now. God I hate it so much Being an avid 360 user, I really like the Games for Windows interface - looks nice and slick and is easy to use. Ginsin, you have obviously never seen any other user interface for ingame communication..... the Steam UI or xfire is sooooo much better and doesn't lag half as much ingame :P GFQL=biggest POS software on the PC, its debatable if given the option of 3 limit activation or GFWL whether id go for the 3 limit activation
Took me 7 bloody hours after a reinstall to get my old saves working in GTA IV, ****ing POS Not interested.
Steam hasn't disappointed so far... Ah but many games are using it. If only they all used steams system I would be happy. You will probably have to use GFWL sometime. Its crap haha Woohoo it's even easier to piss your money away, YAY!
The only reason this...hmm what's a good enough phrase? "Cancerous polyp on the anus of humanity" (ty AJ Rimmer) is on my system is because some of the games I use "need" it.
Die quietly LIVE, not with a bang, but with a whimper. So far I haven't really had many gripes with apart from not being able to join parties (so much for cross compatibility!) and the private chat quality seemingly being a bit worse (at least it was the first time I tried it).
I can understand people having problems with it though, I'm just saying I personally haven't really had any so far apart from the above. Nice! The fact that I have to use a crap system to play a game probably means that I won't buy the game in the first place. I am getting to the point where I haven't got too much free time to play games (although I still enjoy them) so I can just pick a few every year. There is no such thing as a 'must have' anymore. I'm still playing Freespace 2 and all the mods so never in any rush! I find Steam really good to use aswell. The only use I have for GFWL on my PC is to sign into my Gamertag so I can start earning achievements on games which support them, that's it. My experience so far with GFWL has been fine - it doesn't cause anything to slow down, and the interface is nice. Yeah if they make it work better I wont mind having to use it. I have had a number of problems with it, like auto patching for Fallout 3 just doesnt work. Even when I turned off my AV software. Also couldnt get voice chat to work on SF4. Now maybe im being stupid but shouldnt it be catered for idiots? I can do all this stuff on steam and them some. If MS are going to be publishing more and more games with it then it needs to work I haven't had any problem with auto-updating so far. The only games I've tried are Fallout 3 and Dawn of War II.
Haven't tried the voice chat... I haven't got a mic for my PC! I need to get one really, as L4D really benefits from using one. You have games that need it, yet you want it to die?
You do realise that if it did die, you'd no longer be able to play those games, right? (Well, with one or two exceptions, since a couple of GFWL games have unofficial user-made patches to remove the requirement.) Sigh...
This whole forum sums up why PC gaming died a long time ago for me... and why is on its last legs for alot of people...
It is so goddamn difficult to just buy a game and play it.
I will stick with my game consoles. Yes and I have a few of those. Plus there are those that have it but don't need to be online at least, you can still run the game, eg Fallout 3.
Also there are those that flatout require the damn thing to run.
It's just an unwanted program on my system.
Edit: Would it be so difficult for devs to include an option at install to ask you whether you want to install LIVE? »
I would love to see the number of people choosing to use it if they had the choice :lol: "server side authentication will link game licenses to Gamertags"
Another attempt to kill the second hand market! I agree, not really had any issues with it, it just sits behind the game and does very little...I don't understand the hatred of it. I would have thought that most people have a live account and so it's not like you need to sign up for anything really new....
Each to their own though is suppose Hallelujah....I was beginning to think it was just myself and my two brothers that just couldn't get into it.
I was desperate to play it when it came out (to much fanfare), but I just didn't get drawn into it. Since then, both of my brothers have had the same experience...one of them being a huge fan of both Oblivion and Morrowind too.
I think I might trade mine in against Arkham Asylum later this month.
I just didn't get it - we're very obviously in the minority though!
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And that is what I consider a violation of my consumer rights, along with my privacy rights. Someday, it may not be now, but someday, there's going to be the mother of all backlashes in regards to corporations trying to stick their fingers in our private property (i.e. computers,) and then I hope to see some heads roll! »
Nope, you're not alone. I too awaited FO3 with great anticipation for a year and a half or so. I wanted it to be good, I really did, and technologically I think it was an impressive job...but it just didn't grab me. I played the game to completion because I'd already invested a good amount of time in the game, but the more time I spent on the game the more dull it became. I wouldn't rate it as a "bad game", but it's not on my top 10 list for 2008 either. »»
Phew - thank God for that...I was beginning to think that I was just not loving games like I used to.
Could be a curious case of the Emperors New Clothes, eh?
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