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 Digg.com Facebook Google Bookmarks N4G Gamerblips del.icio.us Reddit Slashdot.org StumbleUpon £120 for a game is obscene. Sure, the goggles are sort of cool - for a few minutes. But they're cheapies so it's not like you could use them in any practical situation. Like stalking someone. And how often can you crawl across your lawn in the dark before it gets old?
I wish I could find a way of marketing stuff that people don't need but feel they should have because it's limited edition. Know what that kit actually looks really tacky from those pics. No way would I pay that much for a novelty toy.
Ahh well we could all dream and hope they are awesome but who is actually going to fork out 120 pounds to test it?
Anyway least KFD won't have to eat his hat now ;) ...i can see a lot of these going for silly money on Ebay..... It's very pricey, but I guess you could argue that it's aimed at the hardcore fans.
What's more concerning is the price of the standard edition - utterly, utterly ridiculous. I can honestly say that I had no intention of buying it anyway, but I do not like the precident that this could set.
Whatever excuse Activision want to use for the £55 RRP is irrelevant - they're screwing their customers....I'd love to think that there'd be a boycott on the game, but it's highly unlikely.
:) Apparently it's the "weak pound". Right... so if the weak pound is to blame then why can I still pre-order Bioshock 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 at £38, ODST at £30 and Forza 3 at £40? All games that I would rather play, in all honesty.
I've said this already, but the ONLY reason it's more expensive is because they know it will sell and that they think they can get away with adding an extra £5. I wasn't sure if I would get this at release or not, but this confirms it - I'll wait until I can borrow it off a mate, most likely - that way they will get NONE of my money. Ha!
And £120 for what are likely the worst quality NV goggles built since the £10 ones endorsed by the Discovery Channel...
Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo The £55 price tag won't last long. Amazon are already pimping it for £10 cheaper. Once one retailer drops the price, the others will follow suit. Games are pretty much always £10 under the RRP anyway. That's why most games are £40 instead of £50 RRP. £45 is still daylight robbery for a standard edition game. aye PLAY have it for £45 as well. still wouldn't pay anymore than £39.99 for any game though. even that doesn't happen too often with pre-orders usually bumping the price down like Dead Rising 2 for £29.99 off PLAY. The NV goggles are probably really bad for that price. If you wanted NV goggles why would you wait until Modern Warfare 2 comes out to get them?. It makes no sense to me. I guess developers have figured out that gamers are pretty terrible with money and will buy and old shit as long as it has their favourite game written on the box. I agree - it's the principle of the thing for me.
As you pointed out in your previous post, this is all due to the fact that Activision know that it'll sell....and that is a disgusting way to treat fans of the series. What next? - £60 for a standalone GH game?, £200 for the full instrument set?
Sure, you won't actually pay £55 for it - but, it's still more expensive than every other game out there...and it shouldn't be.
I definitely won't be buying MW2, because I'm really not a fan of FPSs - but I really hope this bites Activision in the arse and they don't get the sales that they were expecting.
:) Agreed. Yes! Isn't it grand?! :lol: This also happened to WAW though. PC version was 29.99 and there was no way I was buying it at that price considering they basically ****ed up number 3. Waited until a sale was on via Steam before I got it.
It is daft really. The Sims 3 is 29.99 and so is MW2. I wouldn't exactly call it ripping people off but more a clear marketing strategy. After all the seller are as much to blame as the developers. Why can they not lower it to 40 or 25? Well probably because they know themselves it will make money. Haha quite! Shame though was wondering whether you could tell us what hats taste like ;) Any more bets you want to make? Maybe GTA 5 for next year? Haha! Yep. The weekend after Bioshock was released the special edition of Bioshock (exclusive to game in the UK) was selling for up to £150 on Ebay. And for what? A poorly made Big Daddy (a lot were broken as well), a half decent DVD "making of" and some truly ear gouging remixes from Moby *shudder*. Flash forward 6 months after that and my local Game were having trouble shifting their left over non-picked up reserves for £40.
Don't get me wrong, Bioshock was highly anticipated but compared to MW2? It's tempting to pre-order one just to see if they start going silly in the run up to Christmas, especially if they stop taking pre-orders well before release...
(and if not just cancel your pre-order...)
At the end of the day something is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it...
The free Fallout 3 pip-boy keychain and soundtrack CD given away to retailers as incentives were going for up to £50 last year in the run up to xmas, and they were selling...
£50 quid for a tiny piece of plastic and a CD with 5 songs on it you could download or probably buy the whole albums of for less than a tenner (or for free if you do that sort of thing)... i was considering getting this but not now! Activision are getting too greedy now, but alot of people will still end up buying it, plus they are putting all the prices on there games up by £5! What's the model nr? How much they're on ebay? i could see the point if they came with splinter cell special edition...
but CoD? Supposedly, the Splinter Cell: Conviction CE comes with a torch.....for some reason.
:) haha a torch.
like every household doesnt have one of them.
should also ship with a pair of sam fishers trademark black tights. I won't be getting the goggles version. But I am tempted to get the steel case edition. The thing is, I got the special edition with the art book of Modern Warfare, and I wasn't very impressed with the book itself - very small and not much in the way of art really. The DVD that came with it wasn't too bad.
But for £69.99, I want to make sure the art book is substantial. Activision just sell the game for the same price as the PC version you pack of charlatans.
Sell some advertising space in the loading screens for the online MP to pay some of your over heads if you like and start giving everyone the inevitable DLC map packs for free..... its like a discrimination and well g*y or some kind of sh*t? and illegal? i know because my fathers a lawyer and some sh*t and there's a video up on youtube about it so like it must be true? and a real law and sh*it. I was interested in the steel one too, but I figure it has no function after the "yup, that's a cool box" and then it gets stuck on a shelf or in a cupboard forever. It's not like they ever have much in the way of resale value anyway, so unless the pack contains something you particularly want, it's pointless.
I'll get the bog standard case, so it'll fit beside my other games. And since the disc is what I want (even I'm not enough of a geek to want pre-production info and interviews and stuff), that'll do me.
My decision will be whether to get the 360 or PS3 version :) Yup, that's pretty much what I was going to say, unfortunately just as EA are starting to turn the corner and get into gamers good books again Activision have well and truly taken their place as the most obscenely greedy publisher in the game, who like nothing more than to shit all over the gamers who are solely responsible for putting them in the position they are in financially. Isn't it a free market? So they can charge what they like and if people think it's worth £55, they'll pay it. If not, activision will struggle in the charts. But that isn't going to happen, because most people will happily pay that for a game as good as this is likely to be.
But frankly, even if it's just Cod4 with new maps and guns, I will buy it, play it and enjoy it for hundreds of hours and that's good value to me.
Also, anyone else tempted to buy a prestige NV-goggle box and then sell on ebay once they sell out? Thinking about it, my missus would probably kill/leave me if I bought this for myself...
It's the price of three games for christ's sake... This is getting silly. Weak pound my arse. If they know whats going on in the world of economics then they know most people don't have more disposible cash. Plus the cost of making the game could be the same or cheaper due to the ground work laid down by the first games devevelopment so how can they justify this.
I'm really having problems trying to understand how companies can moan about the pre owned market when the increase game prices in this type of economic climate.
I personally don't like pre owned because it does hurt companies but they do seem to be partly to blame.
Seems strange that at retail/online (I exclude GAME from this, the slippery fraks) is where we are seeing the push to make things cheaper. Yeah generally I wouldn't spend more money on a game to get a steel box however I did for Dawn of War 2 because it was the same price as the normal box so why not get something a little bit better quality.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Only problem being if they do not actually sell out and we are 120 pounds out of pocket. »
Weeeeeell, it could happen...What do I stand to gain if I win asides from the short lived bragging rights that my prediction was accurate? :P »»
An all expenses paid night out on the town with Crimbo... »»»
And bear in mind that that town is probably Glasgow... »»»
"The cabin crew suggested we all go out and club it. I had no option; it was that or one of their B&Bs. I figured it’d be safer on the streets. For the first time ever I saw the Scotch in their natural habitat, and it weren’t pretty. I’d seen them huddling in stations before, being loud but… this time I was surrounded. Everywhere I went it felt like they were watching me; fish-white flesh puckered by the Highland breeze; tight eyes peering out for fresh meat; screechy, booze-soaked voices hollering out for a taxi to take ‘em halfway up the road to the next all-night watering hole. A shatter of glass; a round of applause; a sixteen-year-old mother of three vomiting in an open sewer, bairns looking on, chewing on potato cakes. I ain’t never going back… not never."
"My aunt lives in Scotland, she says it’s quite nice."
"Well she's wrong." How about all you tight people stick a few pence aside each week up untill the games launch and you will have the £5 extra that you need to buy the game easy.
At the end of the day Activision can charge what the hell they want, they are publishing the sequel to one of the best selling games of recent history, people will buy it, end of, regardless of price. They are a business at the end of the day, not a charity. Considering the production values, quality and presentation of a title like this, £5 extra is nothing.
I have spent a STUPID ammount of time online with COD4: MW, and will happily spend an extra £5, which, considering the replay value with a title like Modern Warfare is money well spent in my opinion.
I myself will probably pip for the standard or steelbook edition.
I seriously cannot wait for this game! Right, i don't work in games but I do work in a similar type of industry. I love this game and will buy it! I would love it to be cheaper, or free, just like everything I want or need to buy.. but it won't be.
The fact is, and my business has the same thing, development costs go up and for a lot of companies these things are planned and started years in advance when exchange rates and costs are far differnet to what you are looking at today. Costs start mounting up as you make it and for a lot of these companies things ar charged in US $ regarless of where they are. If you then need anything from say China, it's then converted again - so it's not easy or cheap to make anything in this world anymore. That means anything Activision makes or buys here is in effect subject to currency fluctuations and rising costs. Even a small change can have a massive impact on their business, it does on mine. So for you lot to say it doesn't matter clearly shows that whilst fans of games you don't understand how the real world of finance works. Activision are in business to make money, sure why not - if you were them you would want to make money too. If you all had something good to sell that people liked would you give it away free? How many of you sell things on Ebay? Bet you all hope for as much as you can get! Fact is you want what you want for as cheap as you can get it, but you would sell what you have for as much as you can - I wonder why you think they should be so different to you! This game will be excellent and we have all spent similar money on a lot lot worse; and don't forget retailers set prices you pay in the shop not the supplier - don't forget that in a lot of cases they make more money for each product sold than the supplier.. you get more hours of fun out of these for the money than DVD or going to the cinema so why are you moaning; and you certainly spend more down the pub for a few hours and a hang over. This game will be absolutly brilliant and worth every pound you spend! »»
To be able to play GTA 5 next year? :P Fair enough, and 6 months down the line if you feel guilty that you are getting too many hours of enjoyment out of the game for the money you paid for it you can always send a check in the post to Mr. Activision.
It's precisely because of people like you that they are raising the price of the game and will get away with doing so.Will you still think it's ok if they raise the price by another tenner for MW3?. They are a business not a charity after all. ******** statement about fluctuating currencies! You really don't think they hire financial analysts? They have no idea how much the project is costing? Idiot! The issue is Activision know how well the last game sold, so have tacked on extra for the RRP to make a higher profit as they know this will sell by the bucket load, the problem here is it creates a precedent where other companies will see this, see the huge profits from the extra 5/10 quid and follow suit, suddenly we are paying 55/60 quid for a game. Thats the problem. Activision KNEW the cost of their game, they would have planned for it and re-evaluated constantly especially in times of financial uncertainty! »»»»»
Did you type that out from memory? Pure class. Funniest sequence in that whole series, apart from maybe the song in episode 6 or "not my fault, monkey ******* hands!" Exactly.
I have no doubts that MW2 will be a brilliant game and will offer 100's of hours of enjoyment online, but I don't think that's relevant. If Activision feel that they can push the price up for this, what's to stop them doing it on all their titles? (thus causing everyone else to follow suit).
Also, production costs are no an excuse either - were we charged more for Shenmue or GTA4?....no, we weren't - I'm almost 100% sure both cost a lot more to produce than MW2.
:) Im veteoing this. £55 or £45 or £120. Rip off.
**** Activision! you can get the game on pre-order for £35.99 from argos.
use the code "Game20" to get 20% off. Only downside is Argos will debit your card now.
argos item numbers:
573/5552 PS3
573/5569 XBOX 360
there's also 1.5% quidco back to :D None of it is relevant. Production costs are not the consumers' problem. Neither are exchange rates. If all publishers start putting games out for £60 then there is one key thing we can all do- STOP BUYING THEM.
Everyone can make their own mind up- if they think a game is worth £20, £50 or even £150 they are free to spend that. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Just stop whining! I'm far from whining....I have no intention of buying MW2 (and not because of the price-point, it just doesn't interest me) - but, I do resent the fact that Activision are intentionally screwing their customers...whether you're happy to pay £55 for it or not, it's still them taking advantage of you.
Again, it's a dangerous precedent.
:) It could be seen as them trying it on, yes, but I maintain that noone HAS to buy the game. I respect and aplaud you for having the balls to say you won't buy it- most people will just get it anyway, then spend months complaining about an extra fiver.
Personally, as long as the game is a good one I'm happy at that price :) »»»
Well hot damn! Now that's almost tempting! :lol: »»»»
:lol: I found Scotland to be a beautiful country and the Scotsmen to be quite friendly. This is true - it's totally up to the individual whether they buy it.
I don't think we'll see a planned boycott on this like the one we're seeing with LFD2 (which is a different set of circumstances and I guess we'll have to wait and see how that pans out), but I really don't like the idea of Activision just getting away with it so easily....it's only because it's MW2 that they can.
I'm not getting it because I just don't really like FPS's - but I'd hope that most COD fans will buy this game with a little bit of resentment over the price hike....having said that, they'll still be buying it, won't they?
:) As you wish. While you are tripping over yourself to pay extra I have secured a pre-order for the PC version that is cheaper than the RRP for the PC game and much cheaper than the console versions. I get the same game, a better game graphically with better control response for less. Feel free to continue throwing money at the companies if you feel you have more money than sense. I prefer to keep the money I save away in my own pocket instead of putting it in the pockets of corporations I don't own stock in. That writing style/tone reminds me A LOT of Svd_grasshopper.... Interesting, i'm not Svd_grasshopper though
I love how people are happy to keep paying over the odds for a game, but once they see they can hike it up they'll continue to.
Its like the airlines from the late 80s early 90s where we had the low rollers, stupidly cheap airfare, but they realised, extra 2 inches of leg room, better quality sandwich, we can call it "premium" so the they sold it at a higher cost, then others started following suit, now look at the prices!! »»»»»
"Look, didnae get me wrong, I’m a big fan of the Scotch people – I love Lulu and if Taggart’s on, I’ll tape it. I was very tired that night and I was pissed off I was in Glasgow. Colleagues of mine have since visited it, during the day, and they say they’ve had a cracking time. I’m sorry." WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THE VIDEO ALL I GET IS APPLICATION NOT SUPPORTED HOW DO I FIX IT i hate myself but i orderd one, i love cod and was gonna get the 70 pound version anyway, so this will be me one big game this year, but people that moan if you don't want then don't buy it simple. Shotaro_Kaneda - clearly you know nothing about business!
I suppose everyone knows the exact cost of everything in life. Builders knew how much it will cost to build the Olympic venue, Wembley, the East coast rail way and nothing changed did it...
Wake up you idiot, life isn't like that and you thinking it is like that is nieve! If you don't like it simply don't buy it - but don't moan. Of course they probably thought they knew how much it would cost when they start but things change. If I think it costs too much I won't buy it - but I make that choice every day about a lot of things. I suppose you and everyone else knows how much petrol will cost every day in your perfect world. Maybe you could tell the rest of us what the price will be in 2 years time then so I can plan ahead. The next time you write something at least think about it first - you idoit!
Companies can't just keeping putting the price up as they like, they know there is a point people won't pay. They also know not all countries sell at the same price due to different laws, level of earnings, costs of distribution, taxes etc.. so put it up too much and people will buy it from abroad.
If I can't afford the next game because everyone puts up the price I won't buy. I wasn't saying it was the price I want to pay, nothing ever is. I was saying, given that I work in a similar business situation, I understand why costs and therefore prices can fluctate - I don't think you sounds like you do..
Didn't Nintendo have to do the same recently on their console, retailers just absorbed the price so you didn't have to. Also car manufacturers have been saying the same thing. Turn on the TV and start to understand how world economics work. If you can't, go back to school! You're still the idiot
Building a railway line - cost of labour and materials, huge project
Making a game - basically all labour when you have the building blocks from the last game, base costs on past projects
And just so you know, nothing makes someone sounds more of a wanker than "go back to school" So why is the PC version listed as £29.99rrp why so cheap some one please explain. Is this game still called Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2? Because I can't see Call of Duty written on this box :roll: oh come on now, no need to swear because I touched a nerve.
using the basis of the last game.. you know that for a fact I'm assuming. Do you have any idea how much it costs to really get a game to market, I researched it a bit so I have a good idea.
Look, go and actually work for a company that has taken a product from idea to shelf and then come back for a fact based conversation.. Can i just remind people of some good business advice given to us all by a certain games company CEO Bobby Kotick a few weeks ago.
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Activision "disappointed" by lack of price cuts...
Probably not as much as you though...
Activision CEO Bobby Kotick has said that hardware is inappropriately priced in today's climate.
"I was disappointed not to see any sort of aggressive price cutting," Kotick told Bloomberg. "Of all the things that the hardware companies need to be doing right now, it's recognising the difficulties of the economy and pricing their hardware appropriately."
Neither Sony nor Nintendo are publicly discussing cutting hardware prices. (end of article)
Wow just wow.
Oh i love it :lol: If it's a game I've been really looking forward to and want, I'll spend that extra £5-10 on the steel case, as of course they'll last and are solid. But I think I may end up just buying the standard edition of Modern Warfare 2. Hopefully nearer the release time they'll reduce the price to £39.99.
There's bound to be a beta a few months before release, so gonna try and get on that. Had the Modern Warfare beta for a couple of weeks. Its all very well night vision goggles and all. But I don't think vampires will show up on them, will they? Well that settles it then! I'm convinced! Since you claim to have done the research how about you display some magnanimity and share the fruits of your labour with us plebs? The proof is in the pudding after all. :roll: :lol:
As far as I know vampires, in various mythological versions, do not exist. However, let us presume they did; from that premise I'd surmise that a vampire would be visible with night vision goggles as their undead visage is still corporal (as opposed to being ethereal). NVGs amplify light thousands of time (well, the really good ones at any rate) and thus operate on the same premise that allows us to view things under normal light conditions (i.e. light waves bounce of objects and it is the reflected light that carries the image of what it has bounced off that our eyes receive). Just to be on the safe side though perhaps you should also invest in a pair of thermal goggles. :wink: Well thats lucky. We have a vampire problem round this part of the ward. I mean home lololol! £120 for some 'free' night goggles! Thanks Activision!! if you read my last post you can see that you can get the game for £35.99 on pre-order. All we need to do is wait until release, you can guarantee the likes of Asda, Tossco, JS and Morrisons will have it much cheaper, they buy in more bulk than John Candy.
Besides looks like the HMV deal has sold out so no goggles for me, oh well sure I'll live, afterall I'll just buy a torch.... Better than that. You can get it for 29.99 quid on Amazon.co.uk if you pre-order it for the PC. I'm not sure if that includes free-shipping in the UK or not.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Call-Duty-Modern-Warfare-DVD/dp/B0021AETOU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1247912789&sr=8-3 £120 is an interesting price, how do they work it out.
On a number of sites I have seen it advertised as follows.
So how do they come to the £120 cost ! Best price I have found »Can i just remind people of some good business advice given to us all by a certain games company CEO Bobby Kotick a few weeks ago.
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Good post and very fair point. Stupid and useless pack that all the CoD suckers will lap up in no time. The RRP for the game on its own is pathetic as it is (yes I know you can get it cheaper online)... Just read Lawless' post. Very good point! Activision suck greater balls than EA now Well, I've clocked up over 500 hours playing COD4, so £120 isn't really that much, not if I can get as much use out of it................... :? but then again, it is £120. :| :lol: ted you silly :P But Ted, you don't have to pay 120 quid to get the actual game - single player and multi-player. That will only cost you ca. 30-45 quid depending on which platform you buy for. The SE goodies have just about zero impact on how much game time you actually get out of the game itself. No need to give yourself anymore grief over 120 quid. Just forget about it. :wink: | 
