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Michael Jackson has died

Just in case you haven't heard...
It might not be games news, but whatever, Michael Jackson has died in Los Angeles at the age of 50 following a heart attack. And that's the news.

From the BBC: "Paramedics were called to the singer's home around midday local time on Thursday after he stopped breathing and suffered a suspected cardiac arrest.

"He was rushed by ambulance to a local medical centre, but his death was announced shortly afterwards."

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Posted by nigel666
Wtf! not thrilling news.
Posted by GoodGuy420
its me im tha guy in the op
Posted by MrPirtniw
A tragic end to a very talented man. Sure he was a bit odd, his 'newer' music wasn't great, and he's been on the recieving end of some contraversial legal claims but his older music was/is/always will be awesome. Crazy dance moves, fantastic music videos and catchy lyrics; that's what he should be remembered for- I know that's how I'm gonna remember him anyway.

R.I.P. Jacko.

(I assume it's a only a matter of time before the inappropriate comments start to pop up...)
Posted by metallicorphan
Well,wasnt he planning some kind of new video game...and then there was space channel 5 game,and of course the Moonwalker game

so there you go,game related now


whatever you thought of Michael Jackson,he made some great songs in the 70s,80s and early to mid 90s
Posted by Little Moth
R.I.P Michael. Man, I always loved the guy and never believed in all that shit those ****ing reporters said about him. It's all ********, those mother******s ****ing drove him into his grave.
Posted by B Ave
A sad day for music...

Without doubt 1 of the all time greats & the greatest entertainer ever imo...

Was always a fan - & hoped to see him live later this year...

I think Moonwalker should be put on VC, PSn & Xbox live Arcade now...
Posted by Pangmann
sad, sad day... his music is timeless though.
Posted by ddr_remix
I was so hoping to see him at the O2 arena.
It was everyone's last chance to see him perform one more time live.
I've grown listening to his music.
He'll truly be missed.
Posted by gogo65uk
I got told they are gonna melt MJ down and make an x-box360 so the kids can play with him for a change!!!
Posted by Pangmann
sigh, and so it begins...
Posted by blueblade
This has as much relevance to a video games website as the postings of SVD
Posted by Depravo
Nothing like a celebrity death to bring out the Chris Crocker in everyone...
Posted by drunkenpieman
GOOD :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Posted by blueblade
Your a dick, anyone who invites children into their home is asking for trouble, regardless of apparent innocent intentions. Especially when you have been arrested for it previously, when you are famous, and when you live in a culture where people sue each other at will. And on his death, are you sure it was the media that "drove him into his grave"? Either that or his alleged painkiller addiction messed up his heart? I'm not his doctor so I couldn't comment on his health but if he treats his insides anything like his outside then a tragic early death isn't a shock per se? I respect the guys music but have always found that his apologist fans do as much to damage his reputation as the media do. Luckily I believe he will be remembered for his awesome tunes, pioneering dancing and green views, rather than the controversy and legions of nut case fans.
Posted by MrPirtniw
Well, that didn't last long. Truly pathetic. :roll:
Posted by wakey
y the fook are they saying this on a gaming website who cares hes dead n thank fook aswell

y's every1 cryin over it ... think ... 1 less peado in tha world
Posted by grr_badger
I'm truly disgusted by some people posting comments on here i've never signed up to a website just to reply to comments. No matter what you think of MJ (I definitely was not his biggest fan) you should never wish death upon someone who has influenced so many none of us know the true situation of his 'personal life' but he was not exactly Saddam Hussain was he? I find you people who dare to comment in such a way as sadists and karma will truly kick you in the ass. If you don't have the intelligence or brain capacity to say something then don't say anything at all. you obviously do know what it is like to lose someone.

No matter this is a gaming website this is big news and expect it to dominate the media for the coming weeks. Respect to CVG for putting the news up.

R.I.P MJ
Posted by Jensonjet
As a tribute to ol' zombie face Jackson, I've just had a quick game of Left4Dead. Still think it has some of the worst co-op players I've ever met in a game. Oooops... strayed off the subject matter... Michael "nothing wrong with sharing your bed with a child" Jackson! While I don't actually think he abused children, you have to be pretty far removed from society and reality to think sharing a bed with someone else's kids is acceptable. As for the parents who allowed that, surely there's a case in itself. Anyway that's all over now. I guess time will possibly heal the negative side of his career and he'll be remembered for the music, the voice, the dancing and paying $20million to sleep with a child! As they say "god bless America, the land of liberty and justice" (and with a little money and a sprinkling of fame, the chance to do what the hell you like!)
Posted by blueblade
Well Mr moral authority, if he did mess with minors then i'm afraid he isn't far off the likes of Sadam in my book. i'm not saying he did but you cant prove he didnt either no matter what you believe. And as you said, this is an internet forum, not the houses of parliament or a MENSA conference, so what sort of comments do you expect. also comparing real life loss to the loss of a celebrity makes me wonder if you have ever lost someone? because that comparison is retardation personified. he may have influenced a lot of people but the majority wont give a toss, and they are entitled to an opinion even if it is negative.
Posted by MrPirtniw
@blueblade: And you can't prove he did either; wasn't he cleared of all those charges anyway?

It's fine to have your own opinion, even if it is negative, but for crying out loud, the guy's dead- show some respect at least. He's achieved far more than you or I could ever dream of.

But you're right this IS the internet - the breeding ground for all sorts of scumbags who get off on this kind of thing (not aiming that at you btw).
Posted by VirtualCrack
Tragic news.

That said, one less nonce to worry about.

Oh and to the guy above... why should you respect someone in death if you don't respect them in life?
Posted by grr_badger
@BlueBlade To some of his fans eg. The lady with the doves at his trial. i'm sure they feel more loss than some do to there family or friends no matter that he was a celeb. I understand your point about the internet but just because you can post something anonymously does not mean writing controversial BS will earn you any respect. My post may of been a bit pretentious but i do feel someone should at least proclaim an annoyance against ignorant posters.

You yourself presented a well formed argument and that in itself is respectable.

And also as this is the internet it is neither the time or place to tell you about any loss within my life.
Posted by MrPirtniw
Sigh- just don't go to any funerals dressed as a clown. Something to do with decency I think.
Posted by StonecoldMC
Michael Jackson's death should be reported on CVG, he has had numerous Games based on him and cameos in other Games throughout the years.

He also happened to make some of the Greatest Pop music of all time with his brothers and Quincy Jones.

So yes, CVG should be reporting this news, some of the people posting on here about a man's death should also be reported, but in a different way.
Posted by BYDO
With this being CVG I though this would be posted in a few days time after everybody else has reported it or at least it would have the header 'Michael Jackson dies, last words were "360 is better than PS3"'

I really liked the chap but if there is any good to have come from this, it is that maybe his kids will get a more normal up bringing now.
Posted by altitude2k
Even in death he doesn't get any dignity. There are a lot of absolutely pathetic excuses for human beings in this world.

I was never the biggest fan, but his influence on music and entertainment was unrivalled. It is a loss.
Posted by Domin666
OK IT'S OLD NEWS 4 ME JACKO WACKO IS DEAD JUST FINISHED NIGHT SHIFT SO PROB HEARD B4 U ALL GOOD NIGHT.
Posted by dannybuoy
A sad day indeed. He'll be missed the world over. And remember kids, start with the man in the mirror to heal the world and make it a better place.

Shhhamone
Posted by Black Mantis
Sad news. Not to dwell on it, but he was found innocent on the child molestation charges (innocent until proven guilty remember). Only those who were involved know what truly went down, we can only call it by the info given to us. Cleared and not put on any sex offenders register.

Loved his music and I'm so glad I got to see him at Wembley for his Dangerous tour. True legend in my eyes, whose achievements and success won't ever be matched.

R.I.P
Posted by cjw101
Meh.

"Yes he was a filthy paedo but that's okay cos he didn't realise it was wrong - and anyway his music was pretty good."

Get over yourselves - he was the worst type of nonce - one with the money and power to buy himself out of trouble.

Absolute good ****ing riddance.
Posted by Miss_Wacy
funny thing was he wasent a peedo, he was cleared of it innocent, but nope people still wanna grasp for straws and jump on the band waggon like the no brain gimps they are, just cos he was famous people wanted money out of him and wanted to still brand him a peedo even thou he was cleared of it
Posted by Mark240473
Whatever people think of MJ, I'll just remember his music.

Nobody has ever come close to the genuis of his adventures in pop. When I think back to when Thriller was released, I have nothing but fond memories of a time when pop music was the best it has ever been.

R.I.P.
Posted by pishers
as sad as it is i dont think this has a place in the news of a gaming website, there is plenty of coverage on proper news websites or publications.
Posted by kimoak
It's been a sad day, what with Farrah Fawcett losing her battle with cancer also on the same day :(
Posted by Mark240473
Considering that a new game was supposed to be in development starring Michael Jackson (not to mention the fact that he has starred in games before), then I am pretty sure that it is only right that we, as gamers, can show our respect.
Posted by Black Mantis
Agreed. Also, I only ever comment on gaming forums!
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
Dick's like cjw101 seem to not understand these term's. @ Cjw Fair enough you can think what you like but, why bother posting it? I think you should keep your comment's to yourself. He's dead for god sake, Its like someone turning up at your funeral and saying your a cok thank **** he's dead.


Im not saying he's innocent or guilty, it's not for me to judge, i wasn't there. So how can you say he was?
Posted by Deadhead
He was cleared in the 2005 trial (but then again OJ Simpson was also found not-guilty by the same court system), however the earlier case in the '90s never got to court as it was settled for $2 million. Keep in mind that at this time LaToya also claimed he was guilty, and shortly afterward recanted the claim.

Given that its impossible to say that he is either guilty or not.

That said I personally never wished him dead, but he did clearly need a hell of a lot of help and just as clearly never got it.
Posted by carterlink
This is a games site. Why the hell would I want to read about Jackson's death on it? - Did you report on Princess Diana's death? The Iraq war? 911? The London bombings? - All being just as news worthy.

We are not stupid. If we want news, we go to a proper news site/channel. If we want anything games related, we come here.
Posted by slatters
Michael Jackson - rest in peace

It's a shame to see all the retarded comments above. Regardless of what he may or may not have done in his past, it's over.

I grew up with some of the best of his music and nothing even rivals what he produced in this day and age. A true legend.
Posted by Black Mantis
Moonwalker, Space Channel 5 and Ready 2 Rumble. Yes, I'm stretching it!

You could have ignored it, plenty of other news items to comment on.
Posted by slatters
Youu're a sad F***er. Yes everyones entitled to opinions but show the guy some respect or don't post anything.
For the record he was in over Ł300m of debt
Posted by budge
No matter how wacky the guy became, he truly was the king of pop. He will be remembered for his music above everything else.

I'm off to watch the full Thriller video on Vidzone. 8)
Posted by o Raging Bull o
Billie Jean,nuff said. Respect due.

Id like too see what all the money would do to most of us,id be dead in a year.
Posted by jadehill2001
I'm gutted. I've been a fan of his since I was a little girl. I remember playing Moonwalker on my Mega Drive when I was like ten. His music was groundbreaking and he was a complete showman. All these kids only recognise him from all his legal problems and don't remember how truely great he was at his job.
Posted by slatters
Same here, grew up with it all too. I feel I should dig moonwalker out now.

RIP
Posted by carterlink
What a sick thing to say. So he may (or may not) have fiddled with some kids, but he's dead now, so it doesn't matter?

I personally think he was over-rated musically. Yes, a couple of early classic 'disco' tracks, but not much else. 80 percent image, and a pretty weird one at that.
Posted by ParmaViolet
Some utterly disgraceful comments on here, I see...what a surprise.

For the record - I'm no fan of his music (although 'I Want You Back' by the Jackson 5 is a work of genius) and I have doubts about how innocent he truly was in his legal problems (we'll never fully know).

However, this is an entertainer that had a profound effect on most of our lives - if you grew up in the 80's, you were a fan....simple as that. He had serious problems that we can't really begin to fathom due to the secrecy that surrounded him - I have a feeling that we'll soon begin to get a true picture of who he actually was and the sheer torture that his life became.

Again - I'm no fan of the man or his music....but this is still a truly sad day.

RIP.

:)
Posted by slatters
Excuse me? just what exactly is sick about my comment? have you not read any of the others here. \i'm sticking up for the guy!
Posted by pishers
»

why no farrah fawcett article then, there was a charlies angels game after all. mj being in a game is pretty tenuous, as i said, we can read all about it on music sites or even places like the times that report proper news which this is, its not gaming news. gaming news would be that mj is due to be in a game or something like that.

i have no problem with people showing respect, all i think is that there was no need for cvg to post the article as it isnt relevant to them.
Posted by nee50n
Wasn't michael Jackson in boxing game as a charcter? Either Fight Night or Ready to Rumble?

Anyway not a great fan of his music or pop music in general, however, I think "Beat it" is probably the best pop song i've heard.
Posted by ParmaViolet
Yes - he was in Ready 2 Rumble 2 on the Dreamcast...it wasn't officially him, in the same way that it wasn't officially Bill and Hilary Clinton in the same game.

:)
Posted by voad
»

I think he was referring to the bold part there. Were you sort of insinuated that since he is dead now that whether children were molested or not no longer matters.
Posted by carterlink
»

You implied that he may or may not have done some very unsavoury things with little boys, but you're willing to forgive him because it was A: In the past and B: He's dead. - I think it's sick of you to suggest that it doesn't matter anymore.

I had no respect for the man in life and I haven't any now.
Posted by altitude2k
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I'm going to have to stick up for slatters here. He doesn't know, I don't know, you don't know what may or may not have happened, and that is fact. It's not sick. Besides which he was saying that that really doesn't matter right now, and he's right. I think it's quite sick to think badly of what you think someone might have done even when every time he was accused he was cleared.
Posted by Black Mantis
»»

If CVG feel that it's necessary to post that on here I'll comment on Farah Fawcett sadly passing away. If you don't feel it's relevant to have a piece about MJ on here, ignore it and move on.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
not guilty isnt innocent. dont you watch judge judy?!

i seen old tapes of him on louis theroux, he was asking for the kids, "bring the kids round, your little brothers and sisters"

and the guy louis was interviewing (a wee guy at the time), it was in the paper MJ was tugging off over the fone having fone sex with him. when louis confronted him he was bright red embarrased.

he aspired to be, if wasnt a kiddie fiddler.

he also made some good music.

his fans are blind to the first fact, but its well documented they are freaks as well.
Posted by condemmedman
While he did bring great things to the world of pop music. There were too many accusations pointed in his direction to be ignored .Funny how people forget about the children in these cases because he was famous ,I never wished death on MJ but I am sickened by people idolising a suspected peado . Hang your heads in shame ,This is why monster's still walk this earth.
Posted by sweatyBallacks?
RIP Jacko

He was a real phenomenon of our times. As big as Elvis, The Beatles, The Playstation brand etc for our generation.

May he find peace at last. The real version not the Avid Merrion one.
Posted by carterlink
»»»

Of course it matters! - Try asking the boys (now men) that he may (or may not) have been with. - He wasn't proven guilty, but neither was OJ Simpson.

And he didn't say 'right now'. He said 'it doesn't matter now. It's over'. - Think about it. Whichever way you look at it, it's sick.

And suggesting that this news is in any way 'games related' is utter nonsense! - It's like saying we should all comment on and celebrate Shakespeare's birthday every year because he has a few plays on the DS book collection. Moonwalker was absolute pants.
Posted by newsinthefield
I think the CVG team were trying to provoke a response a little like this:

"HURRAH! Make way for the NEW and IMPROVED king!!"
Posted by leefear1
He was cleared by a court of law. The tragic thing about Rape and Pedophilia accusations are that once accused the suspicion never goes away. Which is why I personally think those that are proved to have made false accusations should be treated just as bad as those that commit the crimes. There have been people beaten to death purely for being accused of Pedophilia and later found to have simply shared the name of some other person that was found guilty of it! I agree that anyone found guilty of such crimes deserves to rot in hell but MJ was found innocent and the Mother of the child was on more than one occasion found to be telling lies and trying to extort money. Just because he is weird does not make him a monster.
Posted by Adam81uk
What a suprise, a complete lack of respect for an icon. Though it doesn't suprise me what names have come out saying such crap.

If you like him or not, if you believe the media headlines about him or not, he was someones father, brother and son!

RIP Michael
Posted by newsinthefield
I LOVE gogo65uk's response!


got told they are gonna melt MJ down and make an x-box360 so the kids can play with him for a change!!!
Posted by svd_grasshopper
like many paedos... why does he get a free pass?!

he freely admitted to sharing his bed his kids (pre-emptive strike) and got away with it for a while in his own house, inviting kids to sleep overs. he could because he was rich and famous... why are people sticking up for him?!

he refused an interview with louis theroux because they knew he would have confronted him and got martin bashir instead. he asked him anyway and MJ fell out with uri gellar because he arranged the interview and advised to choose bashir, not theroux.
Posted by cjw101
That's some meaningless sentimental bollocks right there. So was Hitler, Stalin, Joseph Fritzl - in fact everyone who's ever done anything bad...
Posted by slatters
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Just to clear this up. I did not mean for it to come across that way. If he was guilty then I would not be forgiving him but as has been stated before we don't know and probs never will.
SO I appoligise if you have taken it like that but that was not my intension and i'm certainly not sick.
It goes to show what *****s there are on here when you can't even post a simple tribute to someone.

And thank you for backing me up altitude2k, respect to you :D
Posted by YouGuysRock7
Absolutely gutted! Such a sad moment. R.I.P Michael Jackson.
Posted by leefear1
I do not think anyone would claim that he and some of his actions have not been very strange and downright weird, but this does not make him guilty of anything. He like spending time with children as he found them far less judging and full of joy which is quite understandable when reading comments like yours. I had a friend that was once accused of rape only for the accuser to finally admit that she was lying (something we knew all along). However he had to suffer under the suspicion of others for a long time after. We have a judicial system for a very good reason and that is to prove guilt. The accusers in the court case against MJ were proven to be making it all up in order to extort money. In my mind exposing your child to a court case suggesting that they were abused, in order to make money is horrific and it is these parents you should be aiming your anger at.
Posted by Raider197
Shows you how much of an impact he had on everything when a games website reports his death. I never really listened to his music but I was still sad to hear the news. As pretty much everyone was, I mean look around, I'm surprised the internet hasn't caved in.
Posted by carterlink
»»»»»

Fair enough, you are not sick, but your original statement was written in such a way. -Neither am I a *****, just because I don't agree with you or idolize Michael Jackson. - It is hardly respectful to throw insults at someone, just because they disagree with you and hold other views.

And believe it or not, I wasn't really commenting or implying anything about Jackson anyway. - Mine was a general comment that you should not be so easy to forgive and forget someone's ill-doing, just because it is in the past or that they are dead. Especially when people living may still be suffering as a consequence of their actions.

By the way, I didn't write 'snooker cue'. CVG changed it for some reason?!! Even though you used exactly the same word.
Posted by slatters
»»»»»»

And I agree with you there.
I think we've maybe done something on cvg that is unheard of here, in a way we have kissed and made up(not literally ofcourse) :D
Posted by svd_grasshopper
all paedos are weird incase you hadnt noticed.

he found kids less judgemental so he slept with them??!!!

great excuse. open your eyes.
Posted by Black Mantis
My main problem with these allegations is that, wouldn't any parent see to it that he gets the most severest of punishments and not settle for the money?

This is a crime that has seen grown men cry because they've judged themselves to have failed to protect their kids (even though they are still alive) and driven people who aren't connected to the incident to commit GBH/murder.

This is just my opinion, but if it was a child related to me, I wouldn't settle for a penny.
Posted by leefear1
He did not sleep with them in any way that was abusive! Are you saying that all parents that allow their kids to sleep in the bed with them are abusive? In fact people used to let their childrens friends also sleep in their bed although you would never believe it as nowadays even glancing in the direction of a child could lead to accusations of child abuse! You even need written permission to photograph your own child at a sports day in some schools!
Posted by lwill
It's not like the president of the U.S.A got assisiated, or the queen choked on some peas and even then, this is a gaming site, I just don't think headlines like that should be up here.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
some parents sell their kids off for cash.

dont assume anything.

what kid/parents wouldnt be fascinated by an invitation to michael jacksons house?

he built a fairground to attract them FFS!

all the freaks are coming out the woodwork now!

if MJ made terrible music would you all be defending him so much?!!
Posted by leefear1
I think you will find he built it for himself. He wanted to remain childlike and shelter himself from the vicious adult world. Hence naming it neverland....

This also meant that he preferred the company of children to that of adults. In fact in my experience many children are often far more reasoned and sensible than many adults I have had the mis-pleasure of working with.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
you sicken me.
Posted by ginsin
Wow, a lot of people can't spell for shit in this thread - idiots.

Anyway, R.I.P Michael Jackson. He leaves us with an awesome music collection, to put it mildly.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
all paedos would have a fairground built if they were rich enough.

so they settle for jobs in nurseries, primary schools etc.
Posted by leefear1
And you get a criminal records check before you are allowed jobs like that.
Posted by Adam81uk
Im so glad we live in a country where your innocent until proven guilty, and whereby the moronic Sun readers - so gullable they believe everything in the media - can't cast sentence without a little thing called evidence.

I think this forum also highlights the complete lack of social grace shown amongst those that play videogames, no wonder we are looked downupon.

RIP the legend that is Michael
Posted by milky_joe
Way to live up to negative stereotypes of idiotic gamers guys... give yourselves a round of applause...

Obviously this isn't directed at everybody, just that "special" few.

I've said it before, whatever the unproven rumours were, you can't deny he was a musical genius.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
and?!!

rightly so - though not all of them have records, excuse me for pointing out the obvious.

and do require background checks if you want to construct a fairground in your back garden?!
Posted by MrPirtniw
Grasshpper- just this once, shut up.

I'm starting to think CVG shouldn't of posted the news either- simply because the usual gutter scraping morons are saying pretty much exactly what I was expecting.

sigh... go ahead SVD, begin your counter attack :roll:
Posted by leefear1
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Indeed not all potential child abusers have records so lets be safe and ban any contact with children once they have been born. They should all be taken away from their parents and locked away from adult society just to make sure they are protected......

And just to make sure lets lock up anyone that is as much as rumored to have possibly maybe in someones dreams been thought to have had an outside chance at spending a little too much time with children.

Indeed why stop at just child abuse crimes. Anyone ever accused of anything should be locked up without trial just to make sure.
Posted by flash501
No matter what anyone thinks of him personally, you can't deny what he's achieved in the music industry. I wouldn't class myself as a fan but I would be the first to admit that he was a talented singer/performer. Hopefully he'll be remembered for his music and not his tragic last decade or so where he became an oddball recluse.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
if he wasnt famous, and had all these claims made against him, then the pitch forks would be out.


you people make me sick. ****ing gullible paedo enablers.

25 Years Later, Teen's Phone Sex Hell With Jacko Revealed ...

use your google. loads of shit like this from reputable sources.
Posted by leefear1
That is part of the problem we have. People like you jumping on any potential accusation and ready to lock people up without trial and even when there is a trial unless they are found guilty you will not accept the outcome. In fact entirely innocent people have been killed by the mobs you suggest just on a rumored accusation! It is like the old witch trials. Tie them to a stone and throw them in a river, if they sink and die then they are innocent, if they float or somehow survive then they are guilty!

MJ was found innocent by a court of law and instead of attacking the mother for using her child as a tool to extract money you would rather attack the person found innocent.

Child abuse is a horrible sick crime but attacking those that are found innocent or those that merely accused is not going to help eliminate it. This country is totally crazy when it comes to things like this. The ban on smacking is one example. With all the political correctness we now have schools full of kids that can not be properly punished and know full well that no matter what they do the teachers can do little about it! Far from protecting our children we have a society that is bringing them up in a culture of dissolved responsibility.
Posted by Adam81uk
and you call that evidence? sad sad little man

You do realise that the claims were made against him were because he was famous? Afterall they all wanted money not "justice"

But im sure you know it all cos u read the Sun and dat iz like da bible init
Posted by DaRockwilder1
After reading this thread, I’m embarrassed to call myself a gamer. :roll:

R.I.P.
Posted by MrPirtniw
Yeah, and there's plenty of claims about alien abductions too! Seriously, if you use the internet you can 'prove' anything to be true.

I'm not gonna bicker about this anymore, not the time nor is it the place to be arguing about such things. I do wonder whether you have a descent bone in your body Grasshopper.
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
Numb nuts have you nout better to do? I cannot say he is innocent or not, but I do know what leafear said about him being child like was very true. Peado enabler's?

Theres no1 that hates them more thatn me dip shit. Why don't you wonder off somewhere else.

@Cartelink the tard. Overated lol, of couser over rated. MJ inspired millions of people and prob arouind 95% of the population would disagree with you. Perhaps you have no taste in music.


Mj is King of Pop- Fact!
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
Yep looks like he does read the sun, 25years later I want some money, thats what the headline should have been
Posted by leefear1
And don't forget that the US engineered 9/11, the moon landings were recorded in a hollywood studio, the world is flat and the theory of evolution is entirely flawed..... :wink:
Posted by Knight
Didn't MJ write the music for Sonic the Hedgehog 2?
Posted by VirtualCrack
My girlfriemd is a celebrity journalist and I can tell you for a fact that the industry has a lot of dirt on him in regards to noncing. However he was found not guilty (think American justice, like OJ), which had a chilling effect on the media and as a result it was impossible to print that stuff due to libel concerns.

Now that he is dead (you cannot defame the dead), a lot of revelations are going to come out over the next few weeks. His loony tune fans will see this as more unfair attempts at vilification, whereas more balanced members of the public will now know for sure that Micheal Jackson was indeed a peadophile (who deserved gunishment).
Posted by Adam81uk
I wouldn't trust a journalist as far as i could spit them so i have no doubt that they will all try and make money from his name when he isnt here to defend himself.
Posted by VirtualCrack
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You're just as unbalanced as every Jacko fan. How can you not trust a single journalist?
Posted by ricflair
Did you get all your 'information' from The Sun? Because they provide a really rational response to anything paedophile related...

This country.
Posted by ParmaViolet
The question I have to ask though is - if there was a lot of dirt floating around about this, why was it not brought up while the trial was running?...especially if it was truly incriminating.

Was it discovered after he was found not guilty?

As I said earlier, I have my reservations about just how innocent he was (again, we'll probably never fully know) - but, surely releasing details about unknown evidence after he's died would just lead to further speculation (...and little actual proof)?

The other problem is that there will plenty of tabloids running fabricated stories about his supposed personal-life now that he isn't here to defend the allegations...he's even more of an easy target.

:)
Posted by Adam81uk
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Life experience my friend. The media decides who it likes and who it doesn't and adjust stories and headlines to suit its needs. Why do you think all the celebs have PR guru's
The fact that you suggest that stories were held back through fear of libel but will now be published purely as he isnt around to defend himself just highlights the lack of morality in that proffession
Posted by Sinthetic
RIP michael. another good person fallen by the wayside. on to a better place.
Posted by VirtualCrack
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You cannot bring up information like this during a trial because it could prejudice it (think Lee Bowyer and Jonathan Woodgate GBH trial), meaning contempt of court and a huge fine.

Once he is found not guilty you can't publish either for the reasons mentioned before.

It's a catch 22 situation.
Posted by ricflair
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But come on, we're talking about celebrity journalists or rather 'muck rakers' here! The ones who make most of their living out of celeb's 'private' lives. It must all be true!!

Or maybe they spoke to a 'friend' of Michael Jackson to get the lowdown. 'Friend' quotes are always gospel!

A very ****ed up, weird man? Definitely. A Paedo? I'm not so sure.
Posted by VirtualCrack
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You will be able to form a more educated and rounded opinion soon.

BTW, not all celebrity journalists are scum. Some do have ethics. For example, I know a very startling fact about Tony Blair's daughter, which the media, as an industry, decided not to publish.
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
My girlfriemd is a celebrity journalist and I can tell you for a fact that the industry has a lot of dirt on him in regards to noncing. However he was found not guilty (think American justice, like OJ), which had a chilling effect on the media and as a result it was impossible to print that stuff due to libel concerns.

Now that he is dead (you cannot defame the dead), a lot of revelations are going to come out over the next few weeks. His loony tune fans will see this as more unfair attempts at vilification, whereas more balanced members of the public will now know for sure that Micheal Jackson was indeed a peadophile (who deserved gunishment).[/





Journalist are the biggest full of shit people, and they do anything to make sure they get there greedy hands on alot of money to post shit.



Besides if the media had alot of dirt on him then it would have been put forward for evidence unless journalits are scum people aswell and don't want to do justice?

Or perhaps you are full of shit, what a flawed statement
Posted by Adam81uk
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Just more journos dancing on someones grave, yes they are a classy lot, i can't wait.

Considering i find the whole concept of celebrities a pretty sad inditement of our society anyway then a celebrity journalist is really scraping the barrel inspite of what they supposedly know or don't know.
Posted by ricflair
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If anything comes out now about child abuse, we'll never know either way. Anyone who comes out now saying they were abused fifteen or twenty years ago is going to look very suspect. Also it looks like there is no money to go after, apart from tabloid story fees.

The rumour that she tried to commit suicide? And damn right they shouldn't print that in the national media! Poor girl having him as a dad must've been a bloody nightmare since 2001.
Posted by milky_joe
Obviously things are going to come out in the papers over the coming weeks.

They have free reign to post every rumour, unsubstantiated theory, and 'evidence' they possibly can, because he won't be around to do anything about it (i.e. bring a libel case).

That they didn't publish any of it before is nothing to do with ethics, it's all about the fact they know it's nonsense and would virtually be begging for a court case if they did.

Because lets face it, if somebody, somewhere, had some real evidence that would nail him, why would they withhold it, when the 'ethical' thing to do would be to help put somebody like that behind bars? But of course, it was always simply about getting a bit of money, wasn't it...
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
He's full of shit wouldn't waste your time. At the end of the day if there was evidence it would have and could have been brought up regardless what he say's.

All journalist's are rubbing there hand's togther at the moment waitng to rake in a much money as possible. Twisted people, that tell twisted lie's, and talk utter shit.

If that is the case journalists should be ashamed of themselve's for keeping factual evidence hidden for a UTTER BULLSHIT EXCUSE for not releasing them. And the journalists should go to ****ing hell, if hes a peado then he should have rotted in jail. But as no1 brought up any evidence everything that gets published now is gonna be ********.

At the end of the day it comes down to this fact


If any storys come forward from the press or apparently victims, they are only after 1 thing and 1 thing only


a ****ing





Paycheck
Posted by VirtualCrack
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Look I understand your position here but the fact is that very little about Micheal Jackson's interaction with children is in the public domain. That is about to change. Of course there will be chancers and opportunists but there will be facts in amongst it.

As for the other thing... :wink: (several times)
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
Couldn't have put it better myself, problem is the retarded muppets will still return with something like im married to one of michaels solicitors i can tell you for fact blah blah blah.
Posted by smiles69
Totaly agree!! Michael Jackson was i huge part of my life when i was growing up.

R.I.P Michael.
Posted by carterlink
You sir, are a complete and utter moron. - So I'm a 'tard' because I personally think he is a bit over-rated and don't like his music (as though it's written in stone that everyone has to).

I'm really into my music and prefer more rock based stuff. I couldn't give a soggy shit if he's the king of pop or not. He did absoltely nothing for me. - Apart from two or three early solo efforts, I found the vast majority of his later work vacuous and totally unmoving. - My girlfriend likes his stuff, so I have had to put up with most of it.

Admittedly, he was a great performer, but the only time I have truly enjoyed something he was involved in was when Jarvis Cocker showed him his skinny ass.

Honestly, the way some people are going on on this site, you'd swear he was Jesus.
Posted by VirtualCrack
You haven't got a f*cking clue. I explained the legal implications behind why the media couldn't publish this noncing stuff (his not guilty verdict). You know nothing about the media or media law. I would stick to your area of expertise... namely junky, nonce, popstars.
Posted by leefear1
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Fact?? It depends on if this comes out in respected media outlets or the Sun, Mirror, Daily Mail and the other trash tabloid press. The only reason to read the tabloids is to have a laugh at what they have made up today....

However if there is real fact in the real press and those facts can actually be substantiated then fair enough.

Most of the time the press say they have a story but will not publish it out of respect it is generally more to do with the fact that the story is at least partially made up in the first place and therefore a non story.
Posted by Black Mantis
Virtual Crack. As I clearly stated, I have no time for allegations or speculation. Nor do I care for these "facts" that the media are apparently sitting on. What you're saying is exactly the same shit as what happened when he was alive, people will lie for money. I will assess these "facts" when they come out and make a judgement then, but for now I'm just paying tribute to a great artist.
Posted by The Kool Kid
Just for reporting this:
CVG = Win.

Poor MJ :(
Posted by VirtualCrack
Yes that's all anyone can do, but I'm convinced that a lot of people will be changing their tunes over the next few weeks, or maybe months.

Anyway that's enough time on Michael Jackson for me. I'm going to buy Fight Night Round 4.
Posted by The_KFD_Case
Ditto. May he find the peace he seemed to lack while living.
Posted by The_KFD_Case
I haven't seen it confirmed yet, but I have heard that Jeff Goldblum also fell to his death in New Zealand.
Posted by ParmaViolet
That was proved to be a hoax.

I must admit - and I know this really isn't funny, but it did make me chuckle - this morning on Yahoo.co.uk, they had a full list of entertainment articles that read:

Michael Jackson Dead
Michael Jackson Dies of Heart Attack
MJ Dies of Cardiac Arrest
Jacko Dies in Hospital
Michael Jackson Dead: Report
Goldblum Not Dead

In my defence, it was very early in the morning and that doesn't usually help with my warped sense of humour.

:)
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
You haven't got a f*cking clue. I explained the legal implications behind why the media couldn't publish this noncing stuff (his not guilty verdict). You know nothing about the media or media law. I would stick to your area of expertise... namely junky, nonce, popstars.

Because lets face it, if somebody, somewhere, had some real evidence that would nail him, why would they withhold it, when the 'ethical' thing to do would be to help put somebody like that behind bars? But of course, it was always simply about getting a bit of money, wasn't it...

Please re read this again, you see your full of shit. Just because your Mrs is a journalist doesn't make YOU a expert in that field, so please remove your head out of your mrs arse
Posted by gbenlcfc
R.I.P. Michael. You were a better person than some people are able to understand.
Posted by GuyWhoLikesBlue2
good ridance, never liked the man and never will. Also, to lighten the mood a little:

Q: What do a Playstation and Michael Jackson have in common?

A: They're both plastic and they're both turned on by kids!


Q: So, what are they doing to his body?

A: Well, cause he's so plastic, they're melting him down into hundreds of little dolls of himself

Q: Why's that?

A: So kids can play with him for a change!



and if you're an MJ fanatic, I couldn't care less what you have to rant at me about
Posted by leefear1
You and grasshopper should get together and start a dictatorship where you can do away with trial by jury and just imprison people on accusation and rumor.... Oh hang on China, North Korean and Iran already have the market cornered.
Posted by pishers
this is why cvg should stick to news about games
Posted by blueblade
Settling out of court = admission of guilt?
Sleeping in the same bed as other peoples children = Wrong. Those are facts Jackson fans. RIP Jacko, at least he is away from his nut case fans now
Posted by steeley
innapropriate comments, nah its freedom of speech, don't care hes dead, his music was boring, he was a wierdo, possibly touched children, and the skin pigmentation... wtf, looked like jigsaw from SAW.
Posted by funnyguy2001
Is Michael Jackson going to be BURIED? CREMATED or RECYCLED? :?
Posted by alhuckstep
odear what a shame never mind
Posted by GuyWhoLikesBlue2
and maybe you should take a look back and realise we live in a democracy, where everyone has freedom of speech. Here I am, a free man, speaking. So maybe you should start a dictatorship in which any statement that conflicts your opinion results in slaughter of whoever said it. Oh wait, I think Hitler, Stalin, Castro and Johng-il have already covered that
Posted by carterlink
Apparently, Michael Jackson died after falling over a baby's pram, but sources say it's too soon to blame it on the buggy.
Posted by barrett
Michael.............thank you for the music
Posted by Little Moth
**** you... and your mom... there, now look what you made me say. Let's not call other people names for no good reason eh?
Posted by x_The_Jester_x
People can be so nieve. Yes he was found innocent, but hell, so was OJ Simpson. I suppose when that murdering asshole dies everyone will be saying what a top bloke he was too. Had I been accused of child molestation, I wouldn't pay my accuser $11 million to drop the case. I certainly wouldn't have another child in my bed a few years later.

But I suspect people like 'Little Moth', are the ones who critisised Jade Goody. Only to show an outpouring of grief when she died. It's the same thing with MJ. Yes he was a musical genius in the early days. But that doesn't take away the fact that he was perverted, tax dodging crimnal. To me he died when he took the first kid to bed and then paid him to keep silent about it. I handed in my glove a long time ago.
Posted by KK-Headcharge78
Who gives a feck, he made good music. The saddest thing is those who saw the meal ticket and still to this day peddle their tripe in the quest for attention. The guy may have been 'weird' to some but who moulded that? Him or society, press and all the little negferrets who want to keep that broken record of misconception and unproven fact turning.
Posted by Little Moth
I don't even know who Jade Goody is, and I was in a bad mood when I made my comments on this topic haha.
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