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Activision boss: "We might have to stop supporting Sony"

Update: Sony respects third party opinions
Activision boss Bobby Kotick has been voicing his concern over Sony and PS3 and he isn't backwards in coming forwards. Oh no.

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"I'm getting concerned about Sony; the PlayStation 3 is losing a bit of momentum and they don't make it easy for me to support the platform. It's expensive to develop for the console, and the Wii and the Xbox are just selling better. Games generate a better return on invested capital on the Xbox than on the PlayStation," he told The Times.

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The price of the console seems to be the main sticking point. "They have to cut the price, because if they don't, the attach rates [the number of games each console owner buys] are likely to slow. If we are being realistic, we might have to stop supporting Sony. When we look at 2010 and 2011, we might want to consider if we support the console - and the PSP [portable] too."

Ouch. When the world's biggest third-party publisher comes right out and says stuff like that, there's something wrong.

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Posted by KMakawa
Truth, nuff' said.
Posted by stonecold77
here comes another thread full of oh so interesting arguments...
Posted by ensabahnur
whats the betting they don't though
Posted by monkey_puncher
Dreamcast 2?
Posted by wildhook2
3rd parties don't get enough of support from Sony too - Look at Ghostbusters.

Since Ghostbusters fiasco I'm more leaning towards Xbox 360.
Posted by Rob S London
FANBOY BAIT!

Sounds a bit daft really, there is still a sizeable audience there
Posted by lwill
Right, I agree with him that perhaps anything they sell with Sony doesn't have quite such a high gross profit margin, but they must still make damn good money off the console.

Take COD Guitar Hero etc.

Maybe they sell more on 360, but, they still sell a shitload.

I think this is a bit of a ridiculous shout out. Who does it help? I think someone is going to be told to keep their mouth shut for a while. The day Activision stop supporting Sony, is the day my willy is a haddock. It's just stupid.
Posted by Black Mantis
I doubt it will happen. Although EA never supported the Dreamcast, they did state that very early on in it's life. This does open up questions though as to why certain third-parties develop exclusive titles for Sony. The only one I can see reversing the trend and selling well is Rockstar's Agent, games such as Heavy Rain, Grasshopper's title and The Last Guardian don't seem the type to be raking in the cash.

BTW I'm predicting 1000+ posts!
Posted by ricflair
Next time you see stories like this on CVG, go buy shares in Future, as their increased ad revenues from stories like this will lead to greater dividends for all investors.

(I would like you to know that your investment can go down as well as up)
Posted by nesling2k3
yeah and 950 of those 1000 comments are going to be STD Grasshopper! :p No future COD games for PS3, maybe?! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Its very likely he's gone to hang himself!
Posted by deiniol
Looking at activision's recent releases, that wouldn't be a bad thing. The only good games they have under there belt is COD and the recent Prototype. transformers and the recent Spider-man games. don't get me started with the ever the same Tony Hawk franchise..

Why is it other company's can release decent games and other can't. To expensive to develop for my arse.
Posted by roland82
Oi wash your mouth out. The PS3 will never reach cult Dreamcast status.
Posted by orochiguyver
Looks like activision is being as short sighted as EA was before they began producing decent games last year... this is why the industry needs to be out with the old and in with the new with its upper management. This guy probably thinks email and sms is revolutionary.
Posted by Robzy1990
Ah so this is where all those Splinter Cell folk are hanging out now :wink:

Right GrassHopper...


What do you have to say about all this? :D
Posted by Robzy1990
They just realise a steaming turd when they see one!


OMG quick grasshopper! I'm dissing Sony!
Posted by Chewmandinga
Christ, that's a bit harsh
Posted by ledickolas
'There may be trouble ahead, but while there's moonlight, and music, and love and romance.....'
Posted by lawless1891
Activision boss: "We might have to stop supporting Sony"

Thank feck for that you robbing charlatans.
Posted by Mogs
Last reason to buy a PS3 - gone.
Posted by StonecoldMC
Activision are parasites.

Is this the same company that wants to charge us ŁŁŁ's of pounds for Guitar Hero Game and ŁŁŁ's for a Tony Hawk Game?

And they want Sony to cut the cost of the PS3 (so do i, but thats not the point!), maybe make your own Games more affordable for Gamers before you start running your mouth off.

I feckin HATE Activision and the more I read about them the more I am seriously considering stopping buying any of the Games they publish.

Rant over!!!!

Sorry.
Posted by J1GSAW
RIP sony

no more yearly call of duty updates :cry:
Posted by Shabozi
The most interesting thing is what CVG say at the end...

For Activision to come out with something like this there has got to be something very wrong.
Posted by Robzy1990
Sniff snifff


I smell a dreamcast...
Posted by nesling2k3
Boys, Grasshopper has read this and has hung himself from his banster! No doubt he'll say something like

'Well we dont need COD! WE HAVE MAG!!! AAAGGGHHHHHHH!! LOOK AT MY CONTROLLER WHEN I PLAY RACING GAMES IT CAN MOVE WITH ME!! AAAGGGHHHHH I CAN CHANGE THE BADGE ON MY DISK TRAY AROUND!!!! AAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!'

He is screaming all this while doing himself over with a PS3 control!
Posted by svd_grasshopper
so - they are losing money on the ps3 versions?

no they are making millions. CoD4 sold millions on ps3. this guy is talking out of his arse.

profit is profit. boo-hoo, the margin isnt as big.

wont be that when ps3 is outselling the 360. little worm.
Posted by flash501
Something tells me he is saying this to try and force Sony to give the PS3 a price cut, a price cut means more consoles and in turn more games sold, more games sold = more $$$ for Activision.

A greedy company like Activision turning it's back on (any) console, I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted by lwill
I'm sure Activision are competing to be as popular as a turd in a swimming pool. Although, it always seems to be coming from some random bloke who works there (regardless of how high up) and not the company as a whole.

I'd understand if he said it and they olny had maybe 1 or 2 games due out on Sony's console, or, if they hadn't sold millions and millions of copies of their games on the PS3, but they have.

If he meant the PS2 and PSP, then I'd understand, although he mean the PS3 aswell, because he talks about high production costs.
Posted by Robzy1990
GrassHopper no!!! It's not worth it!! Think about Solid Snake. What would he want you to do!?
Posted by Hurtgravy76
What the guy is saying makes business sense, when you make an investment you do it to make money. Currently the money they are making from ps3 sales isn't even covering the over heads.

Any invester in normal business would of jumped ship long ago.
Posted by Robzy1990
There there.
It's gonna be alright.
Posted by romeolovesyou
the PS3 is a sinking ship if ever I saw one. The majority of people I know never switch theirs on for anything other than movies now, myself included.

Ubisoft have voiced similar concerns to this in the past. Really is game over for Sony this gen. Hope they go back to the drawing board and get back to basics for the next console.
Posted by lwill
*wipes away tears*

Thanks Robzy, this is a - *bawls* a Hard time for me y'see. I'm a bit of a COD fan.

I've just realised how many mistakes there are in my last post, I must have been . . . passionate. **** it, when I start seeing 360/wii exclusive games from Activision, then I'll start worrying.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
your pathetic. everyone can see by your posts here and your capitals that you simply wet yourself when you seen that headline.

truth is this is trash talk - stop ps3 games and they would lose millions. he'd get fired.
Posted by Robzy1990
Mines in on eBay :)
Posted by Black Mantis
Take it down and sell it to me for Ł50! You won't get more than that for dud technology! :wink:
Posted by Robzy1990
»

Ł50!?
Throw in your shoes and you've got yourselve a deal!
Posted by jonboy1969
Let's see if he thinks the same a week after Cod mw2 is released! Tosser! :roll:
Posted by ricflair
I'm finding people's obsession with SVD quite disturbing.

I mean, shoot him down if you want after a post (or just ignore him), but all the preemptive comments recently are a little weird.

I can't see activision giving up on GH and CoD money from PS3 owners, it's not like they've been pouring money into exclusives that come out looking like crap.
Posted by Guild_Navigator
This guy isn't talking out of his ass. He's expressing a very tangible concern. Go to any store and you'll see stacks and stacks of PS3 games. I wouldn't worry too much about Activision stopping the support,but you can pretty much forget about Sony ever regaining "Teh Lead" this gen.
Posted by orochiguyver
Well I just remember how EA were pretty much ignoring the Wii until it picked up then suddenly they decided to jump on the Wii and casual gamer bandwagon.

Activision are being very short sighted with this. They are such a follower, which is a shame seeing as they are one of the biggest co.s. Guess itll take Sony to really make a push and wait for sales to go up. Im loving my PS3 right now esp with VidZone up and running. And now some more of my friends have got one and killzone 2 Ive actually started to play console games again!

TBH ive never really been a fan of acti games anyway so, so long as games like assassins creed and AAA sony dev games are on PS3 I wont cry.
Posted by jimmygoogle84
His logic about attach rates is incredibly flawed. If the ps3 stops selling then attach rates can only go up. attach rates only go down when a console is selling but people stop buying games.
Posted by mornelithe
The biggest money whores in the world are complaining about console pricing again. Awww, darn. No bother, thing is, 3rd party support for the PS3 is worthless. There, I said it. I don't _buy_ 3rd party games for the PS3, because 3rd parties don't deserve my money. Only SCE exclusives for my PS3...the guys who actually put...you know...effort, into their jobs.


Morne
Posted by Sleepaphobic
activision is the new EA it seems, they'll say abt anything in order to get more money (not like they are in need of it either). they just want a price cut so they can sell more i guess. but comon they do surely make less money on the platform but a net profit of millions is still a freakin profit, have they become so fu(king big headed that only a gazillion dollars will do?
Posted by KK-Headcharge78
Oh dear the owners of rival consoles have cocks in hand waiting to get sweaty.... anyway in the real world all this guy is saying is Sony do a price cut. Powerful 3rd parties across all industries do this, and of course they are making money from PS3 if they weren't they would ditch it immediately however commercial procedure its not all about profit, it is about the sixe of profit.

Is he right? well I paid over Ł400 for mine so it doesn't affect me however to dismiss the request in this climate is stupid so maybe he has a point.
Posted by BRUTALGAMER
YEA NIGGA THATS WAT IM TALKIN ABOUT **** THE POLICE **** SONY I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THEM FOR SELLING ME THE WASTE SHIT HOLE THAT IS PSTRIPPLE FOR **** SAKE I COULD OF BOUGHT A DOWNSYNDROME PROSTITUTE OR STARTED A DRUG EMPIRE WITH THE MONEY I COULD OF SAVED AND WHEN IT BROKE THEY TRIKED ME THEY SAID WE WILL SEND ROUND A BROTHER TO GIVE YOU A NEW 1 AND THE CUNT JUST COME IN THE HOUSE ROBED ME AND RAPED MY PET SNAKE IN THE ANUS

THIS WILL START THE END OF THE SONY REGIM THEY HAVE KILLZONE LEFT THAT IS IT MGS IS COMING OVER TO 360 AND IT WILL BE BEST 1 EVER CZ RAIDENS GOT A GIANT PRIK IV HERD GHOSTBUSTERS THE BEST GAME SINCE PENNY UP THE WALL LOOKS BETTER ON THE 360 EVEN THO SONY LIE AND SAY THERE CONSOLE IS THE CUNT SMASHER

THIS IS PUNISHMENT FOR YEARS OF TORTUE TO INISUNT VICTIMS OF RAPE AND DICTATORSHIP AND CANCER WILL CONSUME ALL IN THE END TRUST ME IM A BENT COP/LOYER

IM TREDDIN ON THIN ICE IM AT THE END OF MY TEVER IL BE LIKE THIS FOR EVER IM TREDDIN ON THIN ICE

DOGZILLA PLAYS 360 NOT PS3 SAYS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW RIGHT THERE WHEN THE GRESTES GRIME MC IN THE GAME CHOOSES 360 YOU KNOW YOU GOT THE GREATES GAMING MACHINE IN THE WORLD UNTILL THE NEW XBOX I JUST HOPE THERE WILL BE A HAND HELD XBOX SOM DAY SO I CAN WANK AND PLAY NO MATTER WERE I AM IN THE BOG ON THE TRAIN AT WORK AT A FOOTBALL MATCH MY WEDDING AND YOUR DEAD GREAT NANS FUNERAL


**** THAT GRASSHOPPER CUNT ON HERE HE TOSSED MY OLD MAN OFF A FEW TIMES AND I HERED HE WAS SHIT AND A TYPICAL SONY POOF WITH NO IMAGINATION WELL I TELL U SOMTHIN THE 360 FANS ARE COMING OVER TO THIS SITE NOW TO KILL THE PS3 MANDEM FOR GOOD


**** PS3
**** WII

HOLD TIGHT GAMEBOY 1
Posted by lmimmfn
he has a point, why spend more developing for the PS3 when the Wii and 360 are so much easier to develop for and have a much larger audience.

Sony will be in trouble unless the slash the PS3's price very very soon.
Posted by jimmygoogle84
I actually have 2 ps3s (one uk and one us) so I can use the video and game options at the same time (or my girlfriend can use one) - i prefer the split screen option. I've got almost 50 games but not one activision title (rent cod5 - finished it didn't really feel i was missing much) - splinter cell looks good but to honest of all the developers their the one I'm least worried about losing.

ea on the other hand - i'd only bough one of their games before the ps3 and now have about 8 - its strange how so many things have changed this genteration. Nintendo selling the most and ea bringing out new and interesting IP. and fifa being the best football game - its like a parrellel universe
Posted by ensabahnur
first the guy in the god of war thread now this. has someone left the asylum doors open again? :lol:
Posted by pherik
I doubt they would stop support the PS3 outright, but they may stop supporting the PS3 for any new franchises, removes some of the risk if they have lower dev costs when focusing on the 360 and Wii.
The 'proven' franchises that do make them money I'm sure will continue to come to the PS3.



Isn't that his point? The PS3 isn't outselling the 360 so they are complaining about it and trying to bully Sony into lowering the PS3 price so that it will sell more.
Posted by jonboy1969
BrutalGamer can you at least insult people in english! :D
Posted by jimmygoogle84
Yeah you can make a wii game for a tenner but unless youre nintendo you'll never sell more than 10 copies.

If activision can't make profit now how will they handle project natal because developing for that won't be cheap. With different motion controls on all 3 consoles and none on hand helds they'll never make any profit
Posted by Conkers
To put it simply: bollocks will they.
Posted by Sleepaphobic
bet you this is a loser white boy who thinks hes hard and prob black (colour is still not really an excuse for speaking like tht, retardation on the other hand is) but in reality my fu(king mom could kick ur ass
fu(king hate posers
Posted by Conkers
I can’t say bollocks now? What about bullocks? Or Sandra Bullock? One Bollock? Or I am going to bollock her when she gets in? That’s a telling off, not a teabagging. Damn you Thatcher!!!
Posted by stedman
Activison are retarded.

They drop Ghostbusters...drop Brutal legend...

Then all this rubbish about money when they have made millions profit.

PS3 userbase is still the substantial....on par with xbox looking at year to year figures as xbox has 1 more year of sales...


This is a load of bull, dropping support will not happen.
Posted by flash501
Nah, it's the same weirdo in my opinion. More often than not they both seem to appear at the same time spouting bs like this. I said it in another thread but check out some of this guys previous posts, how he hasn't been banned yet I'll never know.
Posted by Adam81uk
After reading some of the responses on here it really depresses me as a gamer at the juvenile nature of people. No wonder gamers are looked down upon in society when you have idiots claiming my console is the greatest. You do realise that PS3 owners can actually go out and buy a 360 if they wanted to, and vice versa.

Its all about the games not the little emblem on the front of what you all play them on!

Then again im probably in the minority as i have as little interest in defending my console purchase as i would do in my mp3 and TV. I wonder if the same people arguing for recognition on their console of choice are on the Ipod forums telling Samsung etc that im the greatest as i have brought an Ipod :roll:

The way its going we will all be playing the motion control and voice recognition crap anyway as we will have no choice.
Posted by Mark240473
I'm guessing that he will apologise for those comments at a later date.

The mere fact that more PS3 owners went out and bought Infamous instead of Prototype probably had something to do with it.....

Activision make EA look like saints. In fact, I think that I would prefer it if the developers of WAW joined EA instead.

Now that would be the end of the blood-sucking fissplaps.
Posted by Waste_Manager
You've got confused. Attach rates are the amount of games sold in the same transaction as the console.
Posted by BRUTALGAMER
IM NOT A WHITE BOY SORRY FOR MY SPELLING IM A COSOVAN WARRIOR THAT COME OVER HEAR TO COLLECT YOUR TAX MONEY BUY A 360 AND GAME ON HALO AND OTHER AMAXING XBOX GAMES THERE ARE

IM SORRY IF I INSULT YOU CUNTS BUT IM HEAR AND WONT BE BANNED AS I HAVE LET THE OWNER OF CVG **** MY FRIEND OMEGA UK V1 IN THE ARSE HOLE MANY TIMES YOU MIGHT OF SEEN HIM POSTIN ON HERE HE ISNT ME LIKE SOME OF YOU THINK WE WORK TOGETHER TO KILL AND MAUL PEOPLE THAT LIKE PSDRIZZLE

**** PS3
**** WII

HOLD TIGHT GAMEBOY 1
Posted by Mark240473
^^

Ah, now I understand why folk voted for the BNP.
Posted by metallicorphan
oh my god...Grasshopper...is that true?!!??,LOL
Posted by NaththeNarc
Idiot, you can't even spell KOSOVAN. Fool.

There's no way they would stop making COD games for PS3, it'd be such a big dent in their revenue.

Although I do have both a 360 and PS3, i'd happily welcome a PS3 price drop, for the state of the industry, and if only to make it cheap enough for thick fanboys to afford so they stop whinging about things and just attempt to grow up.
Posted by Vyvrtka
Well I'm sure EA are having a good laugh at this moment. I mean, with Activision out of the picture, there'd be no competition for EA on PS3 and PSP.

Well, Activision are the new EA, I don't really think they'd abandon Sony and their consoles.

It's a strange world we live in. Lately I'm starting to really like EA, it's a slow process but they are getting there. Now Activision, well, there's just pure hate for them in me. :)
Posted by dangermou5e
Man Brutal you are one serious ****TARD :lol:
Posted by flash501
Careful or you'll get a delightful private message from him as well.
Posted by ricflair
No they're not. It's the average amount of games each console owner owns. You think the average 360 purchase is a console with 8 games? I know the big shops are keen on bundles, but that'd be just crazy!!
Posted by spam javelins
Its gotta b said, i kinda see his point. i own a ps3 and a 360, and most of the games i buy r for the xbox.this is for 2 reasons, firstly, the 360 versions of multiplatform games usually always look better, and secondly,i know alot more people with 360s and therefore i have a more substantial friends list on it. i only tend to buy ps3 exclusives and the last game i bought on the ps3 was killzone.its a catch 22,sony needs to support its third party developers more.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
the wii has the lowest attach rate out of the three - so what if this activision ***** foaming at?!
Posted by cjw101
Afraid you're the confused one - attach rate is just an average number of games sold per console, got nothing to do with buying them at the same time.
Posted by Currychips
Why experiment on animals when there are plenty of people like the above poster that could be rounded up and experimented on.....?
Posted by Tonyb
I don't know what all the bleating is about!

If Activision are spending extra millions specifically on the PS3 versions of games due to the complexities of developing for it and it has the smallest userbase of the main 3 consoles, of course this will be impacting on their profits.

So he's putting major pressure on Sony to drop the price in the hope that this will trigger a large increase in system sales and greater profits for Activision. If Sony stay stubborn over the price, I can see a lot of other publishers doing the same thing.
Posted by milky_joe
Erm... no, it doesn't. That would be the PS3.
Posted by gogo65uk
I won't miss call of duty and guitar hero games anyway. The PS3 can still manage with out them. Activision are just throwing their weight around its probably all just a marketing trick. But nice bait for the ladies to squabble at :lol:
Posted by Osiris25
I thought that they were supposed to remove offensive posts??? Oh well not that anybody really cares what he/she/it has to say...
Posted by Little Moth
Jesus Christ! Imagine if Modern Warfare 3 (if there will be such a thing) turns out 360 exclusive! :shock: That would be a massive blow, but then again, it's pretty much impposible for that to happen.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
nope. april 22, 2009

PS3 Attach Rate Overtakes Wii Attach Rate

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/04/ps3-attach-rate-overtakes-wii-attach-rate/

FOOL!
Posted by falloutwarchief
Why are people throwing around the word Dreamcast like its an insult?

Show some ****ing respect. I thought you people were gamers.
Posted by BusStopWilly
Kinda reminds me of the old Betamax/VHS debate all over again. Despite having the better hardware, Sony Betamax fell by the wayside as VHS was more supported.

Who cares? Not me.
Posted by ParmaViolet
Hear, hear.

The DC was a fantastic console and it still looks great today.

:)
Posted by theturk
This is the most absurd news item. What nonsense about the PS3.
Mr Kotick is using the age old excuse "It's too hard"

Why doesn't he just admit his firm wants fast cheap buck during a recession so quality and quantity can go hang.
Posted by gogo65uk
I love my old dreamcast technically I own more good games for that than my xbox360 lol gears 1 and 2 vs soul calibur and shenmue and MSR ....soul calibur wins hands down on its own I had much more fun on that than both gears combined. As for activision go to hell :lol:
Posted by Osiris25
How desperate are you if you throwing around the attach rates for consoles. Wii has sold nearly three times as many consoles as PS3 so thats more important in the long run surely. And to add to that most of the best selling PS3 games have sold between 2-4 million where as the Wii ranges from 4 million to 16 million for its top selling games. So we can all throw figures around for fun but it doesn't change to much in the end. If your going to sell games you want to sell on the machine that has the biggest installed base and has high sale figures for it games. So which are you going to choose to make them on.
Posted by adgr19
Activision, blu-ray and psps' can kiss my bottom It's funny how Sony were rubbing their thieving little hands over the downfall of the dreamcast, now who's laughing, ha ha ha... not sega, but i wish they were. Quick release a super dreamcast!
Posted by NazAareth
Where do Activision get the gall to pretend that they are dictating the way the games industry is moving?

He could of said this about any console so let's just stop pointing fingers at PS3 and start pointing fingers at Activision. The sheer audacity of them to go claim that they aren't making enough money is ridiculous.

They have sodding World of Warcraft, Guitar Hero and Call of Duty for god sake and they still went after EA to claim that they had rights to publish Brutal Legend after THEY dropped it.

Activision are becoming the new EA, if they haven't already, so let's all cheer for upcoming generic, unimaginative me-too and samey sequels games!
Posted by DrLucienSanchez
More and more this website is reminding me of the "two minutes' hate" from 1984...
Posted by NinjaWizard
Ok this cant be real, it has to be someone being sarcastic and messing about for giggles.... surely!?. A Caricature of a psycho fanboy or an actual psycho fanboy, either way It did make me laugh.
Posted by Osiris25
I think the hidden agenda here from Activision is to try force Sony into a price drop. They are really keen on Sony dropping the price of the PS3 so as to expand its base and then make games more profitable on the format. So i think they will keep making games for PS3 and are trying a scare tactic to get Sony motivated into a price drop.
Posted by milky_joe
»

Allow me to explain the immediately obvious problems with that link.

1. It's about 2 months out of date.
2. It uses NPD data which means it covers North America only.
3. It doesn't include Wii Sports (why?).
4. (And this is the important one) I've seen that story before. About two days later they retracted it because they got the figures wrong.

:lol:
Posted by horngreen
I guess it depends on what it cost to dev for the PS3 and how much they make off PS3 games. They might make a profit but if they took those guys making the PS3 version and had them making another game for the Wii or 360 then they would be doing better right? This could also be an attempt to stir shit up to get dumbass Sony to drop the price of the PS3...Which they should have done already.
Posted by The_KFD_Case
:lol: Priceless.
Posted by GTCzeero
I can't see Activision dropping support from PS3 entirely, they may not choose to release a few titles on it (like movie tie-ins), but they'd be fools to dismiss the extra revenue generated from their big hitters like CoD.

I'm noticing a pattern here on this site though; it's considered trolling to suggest something negative about the 360 by most the community, but PS3 bashing is not only rife but fair play also? Yes certain PS3 fanboys are annoying but there's a lot of people doing the exact same in this thread.
Posted by TaYLoRMaDE
ha good on you m8! why make games for the ps3,they cost more, harder to programme for, not as many ppl out there with them and there network is terrible-nothing beats live.
activision i salute you! spend that extra muscle tartin up 360 games ;)
Posted by jazzy_p
It would be sad..im enjoying prototype at the moment, but could you imagine if atlus said it would stop supporting sony...

now that would be the end of the world right there.
Posted by lordirongut
Not to be fanboyistical or anything, but the PS3 is far from 'losing momentum'. The PS3 gains it every month. The PS3 has outsold the Wii and 360 in Japan since the release of Resi 5 (Biohazard 5 over there), that was published in this month's issue of Play Magazine. I own all three current gen games consoles, and the only one that I have bought a game on for months has been the PS3 (I also buy PC games a lot, Last Remnant last Saturday, actually). Nintendo haven't released a good game since mid-2007 (MP3), and the only thing left to look forward to on the 360 is Alan Wake (Forza pails next to Gran Turismo, Halo is overrated and full of eight year olds who spout racial abuse at you, Natal looks cool will be mostly for party games like a glorified Eyetoy and there probably won't be any Gears 'till the next Xbox) Multiplat games I buy on PS3 or PC as they are free online (same as XBL, I experienced XBL through free months in games, no difference between the two at all).

The man is not talking out of his arse however, as the PS3 does tend to sell lower in America and is on about level footing in Europe (with the Xbox). The PS3 is the hardest and most expensive to develop for, but news is abound that Sony are shipping newer and more friendly developer kits to all developers. The PS3 does, however, need a price cut. I agree with that, even though to me it is amazing value for money now (free online, blu-ray, web browser, built in wi-fi and wireless controllers that don't need batteries), more people would buy it with a price cut. I expect them to announce one at TGS or Liepzig since almost the entire world wants one, which will put them in a strong position over Christmas.

Activision will not stop supporting the PS3, quote me on that.
Posted by CVG Gav
Just updated the story with a quote from Sony.
Posted by Black Mantis
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Cool. I'll give you a choice out of Puma, Nike or Converse!
Posted by The_KFD_Case
You may have answered your own question. A company like Activision has a lot of ongoing projects at any given time; not all of which will earn their keep. That means the big, successful titles cover more than just their own costs financially speaking. This allows Activision to take more chances but in the end some arbitrary profit margin decided upon by those in management must be met, and if it's easier to meet that profit margin in certain markets with lower overhead costs then those markets are going to be more attractive than ones where the return is less but the risks are the same. Redirecting the resources spent on a less profitable market towards the more profitable markets is an entirely valid business decision.

However, there are other factors such as amount of units shifted for example, which come in to play (e.g. depending on the total sales figure and amount of units sold it may be preferable to sell a few very expensive units with a low profit margin percentage given the sheer amount of money it generates vs. selling a lot of low priced units with a moderate profit margin...and vice versa). It's a numbers game and anyone who thinks it's purely about the love of making games is in for a rude awakening.
Posted by Waste_Manager
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Yeah, sorry. I'll shut up now.
Posted by juggalo4life
alright let me make this short
your in the trey brotherhoods court

HEY YALL what the f+ck?
you must have swine flu you really have no clue your post is broke like that 360 machine
sounds like your ass just got red ringed
sell your 360 do the right thing
come join the sony team
microsoft lie cheat and steel sony are the real deal
the 360 cant even put up a fight the ps3 will eat it alive
microsoft buttf+ck you more times then your uncle did
the ps3 is for the mature gamers not punk ass kids
if you dont like the powerhouse system
then come step to the trey brotherhood become another victim
uncharted 2 beta blew gears of war out of the way
how the f+ck can are beta be better then 2 full games?
the 360 will rest in p!ss
the ps3 is king b!tch
get on your knees bow down like your wife
the trey brotherhood now own your life
all the 360s will rust in piles
while the ps3 goes on and on for miles
so give it up the ps3 is the future for us
in sony we trust
come join the trey brotherhood

bring on the hate
Posted by cykosis
so much simpler in the 80s when game news was just fun. nowadays it's just political stabbing, fanboy rants and behind the back handshakes. hate the way gaming news is all about spin and who wins what. gaming has gone too corporate. is this what us gamers have become? sadly I wish i could take back all my rant/opinions and enjoy each game on whatever platform for it's merits and recall fond memories of staring at the screen laughing, crying, swearing, chering with a friend or solo. i apologise if i have offended any other members of this site - if you are a gamer - i salute you whether u own a 360/wii/ps3/ds/pc whatever. who started all this chest beating, bullying or propaganda? was it sega? nintendo? sony? microsoft? atari? ea? activision? sad sad times....
Posted by robbiej55
I can't see them stopping support for the PS3. I don't know what percentage of the market goes to each console, but I'm guessing around 35-40% is PS3? If so why on earth would a company purposely cut off over a third of their market?

Could you imagine Ford saying they refuse to sell to anyone under 25? It would be madeness.

I think that there is clearly an ulterior motive here, seems most likely to be trying to force Sony to cut the price of the PS3. I'm actually all for that, but perhaps there is a more dignified way to try and acheive this.
Posted by cykosis
so much simpler in the 80s when game news was just fun. nowadays it's just political stabbing, fanboy rants and behind the back handshakes. hate the way gaming news is all about spin and who wins what. gaming has gone too corporate. is this what us gamers have become? sadly I wish i could take back all my rant/opinions and enjoy each game on whatever platform for it's merits and recall fond memories of staring at the screen laughing, crying, swearing, chering with a friend or solo. i apologise if i have offended any other members of this site - if you are a gamer - i salute you whether u own a 360/wii/ps3/ds/pc whatever - we are one. anyway, who started all this chest beating, bullying or propaganda? was it sega? nintendo? sony? microsoft? atari? ea? activision? sad sad times indeed...
Posted by ParmaViolet
Oh my God - Did you just write a 'rap' about Sony and Microsoft there?

I honestly don't think I've ever seen anything as sad in my time spent on any forum, anywhere.

I got visions of the 'You've been served' kids from South Park.

:lol:
Posted by Sleepaphobic
hahahahhahahahahhaha
i just imagined tht in a very cheesy rap, smthg at the intellectual level of mr "cosovan warrior" would understand :lol:
Posted by Black Mantis
:lol: He got served something bad indeed!
Posted by only_777
Just how much crap does one guy want to speak in just a short space of time!

He says PS3 is not selling very well and that price is the problem, but the PS3 has sold more units in a shorter space of time than the PS2 or the 360!

Then he goes on to say that attach rates MIGHT go down for PS3 then goes onto talk about developing for the Wii which has got the lowest attach rate of ANY mainstream console ever!

Sounds to me that this guy is a bit pissed off that apart from COD, his rubbish games have not sound very well becuase PS3 owners would rather have something like Littlebigplanet than Spiderman.
Posted by Rob S London
You obvoiusly weren't round then... there have been fanboy battles from the dawn of time

2600 vs intellivision
Speccy vs C64 vs Amstrad
Atari ST vs Amiga
Nes Vs Master System
Megadrive vs SNES
and so on...
Posted by milky_joe
Let's see you dance sucka you got nothin on me...
Posted by DrLucienSanchez
Yes, but those arguments were usually in the playground, where they belong...
Posted by Tonyb
Surely you need to add:-

Speccy vs C64 vs Amstrad vs BBC Micro (model 'B' of course!)

According to friends at the time, Elite, Frak and F1 Grand Prix were like the second coming to the devout! :D
Posted by Currychips
aaahhhhh Amiga Vs Atari ST. those were the days... Happy days!

The Atari has 2 more sounds channels!!! Shut up, the Amiga's graphics are way better, it displays 16 more colours, on screen at any time!!!

The gaming public of today are completely spoiled...
Posted by Spooky122
Oh God!! Ive Never Heard Such A Truthful Thing!! I Tell You Playstation 3 Are A Big Rip-off and Very True... Xbox is Selling MUCH MUCH MUCH Better!!
Posted by Little Moth
Agreed, this is the sadest shit I've seen my entire life. I mean, if it was funny it would be OK, but come on. Jesus F. Christ! :lol:
Posted by warhugger
u know what i hate sony for one thing and one thing only and is that even though they know that their console is not selling they dont do anything about it and thats why cry babies like activision are bitching they don care of what we think at the end we are the people who purchased their stuff but they dont care for what we want they just want their money and thats it and i'm sure that they can come up to an agreement with sony it all depends if they want to talk about it we are sony's costumer and we don't want the playstation to die like other consoles did.
Posted by warhugger
u know what i hate sony for one thing and one thing only and is that even though they know that their console is not selling they dont do anything about it and thats why cry babies like activision are bitching they don care of what we think at the end we are the people who purchased their stuff but they dont care for what we want they just want their money and thats it and i'm sure that they can come up to an agreement with sony it all depends if they want to talk about it we are sony's costumer and we don't want the playstation to die like other consoles did.
Posted by bunneyo
haha what makes me laugh is the amount of people waiting for the the ps3 pricedrop, and yes alot of them are x360 users, yet ps3 owners aren't going out to buy an xbox360's much! Sony have done well in terms of a price to sell ratio! you could buy 2 standard x360's for one ps3, yet with a year more on the market and alot less sale price, the gap is only 5-6 million!
Posted by lonewolf2002
So what games that Acti actually produce (not publish) would the PS3 lose? If they wont publish a 3rd party game on the PS3 I'm pretty sure someone will. As mentioned in earlier posts the mine is better than yours arguement has been around since the dawn of time it's just with the internet we see a lot more of it than we did back then. 8)
Posted by lonewolf2002
Wow what a waste of my eyes.
Posted by lonewolf2002
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Not a good advert to say you too could be like this if you owned a PS3.
Posted by bagofbones
what's that about the Dreamcast... oh I mean the PlayStation 3.

Seriously though, Sony won't go down easily.
Posted by Djstar
SONY F***ING SLASH THE PS3!!!

SWITCH TO PLAN Z NOW OKAY :roll:

OR MAYBE THE ACTIVISION BOSS, IS A TIGHT ARSE AND DONT WANT TO SPEND MONEY!!
Posted by grumqyguy
Why be like this. Are they forgetting that the PS3, to my knowledge, is one of the only consoles currently available that still hasn't been hacked. Thik of all the lost revenue on the Wii PSP PS2 Xbox Xbox360. :roll:
Posted by Sleepaphobic
you might want to check the earlier post from a 360 guy before you judge. there are psychos everywhere and if you think like tht then one would be sad to be or have anything.


abt price: cant believe this is till a prob, i mean im a goddamn student and i live and do my sh1t and could go out and buy a ps3 if mine broke right now no prob, how is it that many other people cant afford one while having full time jobs? its 300 pounds since when is tht a fortune?
Posted by RobbieMultiForm
Nothing like 3rd party pressure for a price drop, eh? Is Activision getting too high and mighty for itself, just like EA did all those years ago with the Dreamcast?!
Posted by jm2008
Hmm... Looking at gameplay.co.uk, it seems that any multi-format titles of activision's are selling more copies on PS3 than on 360 -

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/chart.asp?platform=ALL

There are some sites where the 360 versions are in the higher position:

http://www.game.co.uk/

(Look at the best sellers list), But the fact that BOTH format's versions are in the top sellers list, and that they occupy adjacent positions, shows that the PS3 is still shifting games for them, and lots of them.

I agree with a lot of the other posters here in that Activision are getting a little too big for their boots. And I also agree with people wondering what the huge issue is with PS3 price? Yes, it is more expensive than the others, but it is also newer, and more advanced in some aspects (I'm not flaming or being a fan-boy, I own all 3 consoles) - I would definitely say it's worth the money with the games library now and upcoming on the PS3. I will be the first to admit that it wasn't upon it's initial release, hence why I didn't get it until a year later, when it was.

All in all, I think that Activision would be making a big mistake to drop support for Sony. Or maybe this is them covertly announcing that they are being paid for exclusivity by M$ (Like I said, I own, and love, my 360, but what MS are doing by throwing money around at developers is sickening.)
Posted by fitterthanmost
YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN, im off to f*** my girl now.
Posted by lonewolf2002
Then I would say the same thing about that poster except I jumped to page 5 to avoid the rubbish but alas no page is safe from it. Oh and try having kids, mortgage etc before judging people and what they can and can't afford.
Posted by splojgonxee
craptivision can fudge off bunch of arrogant whiners.you make billions a year your games are freaking stale as a cankerous whore's vaginal fluid after 10 days lying in the gutter.get lost and stop punching above your weight.console wars are stupid all the buy a 360 no buy a ps3 because i have one is straight bull.i will buy what i want grow up the lot of you fanboy scum infecting the internet with your purile drivel.play games for fun.
Posted by Warman93
It is inconcieveable that activision will drop the PS3, I say this as a 360 owner, and I say this because, yes maybe the console costs more to develop for, but it is a certainty that the game itself is making more than enough sales on the PS3 to make the desired profit.

In truth I think that this is more aimed at getting the price of the PS3 lowered, so as to boost sales, it is simple business really.
Posted by Sleepaphobic
»yup that could be the case (though why you dont save is beyond me) but im pretty sure most people here and many gamers in general dont have a few kids to bring up so what gives? poor management of funds, or just being cheap? either way its not the products fault but the crying consumers
Posted by voad
That is the same exact thing I thought while I was reading the article. I can't think of any other reason why the largest 3rd party developer would publicly make a threat like this. To me it sounds like a pretty hollow threat, he even mentioned that they wouldn't take any action until what? One or 2 years from now? And by then there will most certainly be a price cut on the PS3.
Posted by dorian2011
svd grasshopper just face it your console is failing i work at gamestation and hardly any ps3 games sell :lol:
activison and other companys are losing money because noone buys the games protype enterend the chart for 360 at number 2 and the ps3 version at number 8 :lol: if i was activision i would of pulled the plug long ago, playstation 3 is going to do a dreamcast lol
ps3 will never outsell the 360 just face it :lol: 8)
Posted by splitter
I have both consoles. I would happily encourage Activision to boycott both of them. Their games are shit and I've never wanted to buy a single one.
Posted by RandyChimp
ps3 (2006 - onwards) is only 2 million behind the xbox (2001 - 2006) and its still selling. ps3 sold the same amount in its first year as the 360 worldwide. Give it up haters, it isnt failing. 360 had a year advantage and is only ahead by a 7 mill margin. ps3 might not be top of the chart, but its hardly a failure.

Doesnt matter what thi guy says, Activision will keep developing for ps3 since its still selling. He's talking shit.

and Dorian? Dunno wtf you're on about, i know people who are moving from 360 to ps3. sorry dude, you're dellusional.
Posted by RandyChimp
ps3 (2006 - onwards) is only 2 million behind the xbox (2001 - 2006) and its still selling. ps3 sold the same amount in its first year as the 360 worldwide. Give it up haters, it isnt failing. 360 had a year advantage and is only ahead by a 7 mill margin. ps3 might not be top of the chart, but its hardly a failure.

Doesnt matter what this guy says, Activision will keep developing for ps3 since its still selling. He's talking shit.

and Dorian? Dunno wtf you're on about, i know people who are moving from 360 to ps3. sorry dude, you're dellusional.
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) DA PS3 IS A PEACE OF CRAP! IF SOMEONE GIVE ME ONE ME THROW IT IN THE BIN HAHA OR ME USE IT FOR A PAPERWATE TO KEEP ALL MY COOL XBOX 360 PAPERWORK SAFE SHHH
Posted by jm2008
It's hardly reasonable to consider your branch of Gamestation, or heck, even all of Gamestation, which is one retailer as being representative of the PS3's success or lack thereof. Trust me, companies are not losing out on money by publishin on PS3.

If you look at various sites, like I posted earlier, PS3 versions of multiformat titles are outselling 360 ones. The converse is true on other sites, I will admit - the point is, the compaines are making the games, and people are buying them, for all platforms. One thing I have noticed lately is that a lot of multi-format console titles are also on PC - it's these versions that seem to be selling the least, if you base it on store sales charts. Yet, you don't hear companies threatening to withdraw PC support - it's like many are saying - Activision are trying to goad Sony into a price cut.
Posted by voodoo341
What's a paperwate?
Posted by nigel666
Like they would, they don't have the nuts! must be run buy bunch of monkeys if they did.
Posted by voad
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the poster child for safe sex!
Posted by dorian2011
national charts mate national charts, the ps3 doesnt sell multi platform aswell as the 360 in america nd europe thts just although i will say it does outsell the 360 in japan :lol: but i predict that will change wen natal is realeased :lol:
Posted by sevvy b goode
Im guessing you dont have children... Most familys have quite a few things to pay out for other than gaming. With plenty of gamers starting off in the 80s theyre at an age now to have children and that is quite a large section of the gaming public. Including the state of the economy (I know credit cruch again) that sort of money on a luxury become just outside of the reach of a lot of people familys or not.

Myself i would snap a PS3 up if i could get one with a game or 2 (maybe another Joypad) for less than Ł200 (Ł150 preferably) but i cant justify the layout at the moment.

All that bloke is trying to do is to get Sony to announce a price cut. However i cant see them commiting to one before Sept/Oct in the run up to Christmas. It'd have to be a good one as well to make any real difference.

For actual sales figures though id be interested to see a sales split. Ive tried looking on Google and MCV for last years figures game by game but after 30 minutes gave up. Anyone know where to find em?
Posted by paul_brown940
Did you mean to say
"investments can go down as well as tits up" :D
Posted by ei8hty5ive
It seems that it's kick Sony week this week. I honestly don't know why this guy is coming out with this stuff, surely being one of the biggest third party games producers it would just make senses to support ALL machines why exclusively sell 1 copy of COD on Xbox when you can sell 1 on all three systems? It just seems like they wanna give Sony a kick while they are down, we didn't see them come out with statements like this when they were raking it in with the PS1 and PS2. Activision as gone down in my estimation...
Posted by HITMANBAZZA
I have to say this.
I was in toysrus yesterday picking a present for my son when I stumbled accross an xbox 360 playing various demos. I thought right I will give it ago and basically I thought what a pile of monkey crap its awful the controls are shocking and the sad thing is the fanboys want to feel that they have bought the best console when deep down (and xbox fan boys) you know this your console is shit!!! When there is a price cut the fanboys will be queing for a piece of real action!!
Uncharted 2
Gran Turismo 5
God of War 3
Heavy Rain
The Guardian (Ico the greatest game ever)
Broken Sword 5 (Soon to be confirmed as a P S Exclusive!!!)

Need I say more???????????!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by dorian2011
haha a classic sony fanboy bazza is with the "i tried a xbox story" fing pathetic

forza 3
halo odst
halo reach
alan wake
splinter cell
gta exclusives
ninety nine nights 2
crackdown 2
left for dead 2
Posted by ricflair
You have a child? I seriously thought you were about 15.
Posted by Tobal
of course more xbox's have been sold... every owner has been through 5 already, and of course since you can chip a 360 - games can be downloaded for free. ps3 hasnt been hacked yet so activision would be stupid not to support it.
Posted by G_R7
The PS3 needs a price cut. I was luck and won one and got it for free but I only have 3 games on it and have no plans for more while there are many games I want for my 360 and Wii.

I've worked in 2 GAME stores and the PS3 doesn't do as well as the others, due mainly to the price but Chavs do try to talk it up (when I can understand what they say).
Posted by lwill
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I'm not going to argue, there are other priorities in life, which would make me question, why would someone buy a games console at all if it was that much of a problem? The least you're going to be spending on any current gen console is 200 quid.
Posted by ted1138
People buy more games when they first buy a new console, so when console sales drop so do game sales, ie they buy an average of 5 games in the first year and 3 in the second and 2 in the third(that's the attach rate, or something like that).
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) MA FREIND HAS THE PS-CRAP (WELL, I SAY HE MAY FRIEND IN FACT HE A NOOB) HE TRY TO PLAYZ THA COD4 FROM ACTIVIZION AND COS THEIR IS NO ON ONLINE HE WEIGHT TO PLAY IN THE LOBY FOR AGGGGES COS EVERYONE OWN EXCELLENT AND GREAT XBOX 360. IF YOU HAVE PS3 HAHA CRAP TO YOU COS YOU HAVE NO EXCELLENT ACTIVEZION GAMES TO PLAY LOSERS HAHA LOL. TRADE THAT BLACK PAPERWATE IN FOR EXCELLENT 360. HAHA
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) MA FREIND HAS THE PS-CRAP (WELL, I SAY HE MAY FRIEND IN FACT HE A NOOB) HE TRY TO PLAYZ THA COD4 FROM ACTIVIZION AND COS THEIR IS NO ON ONLINE HE WEIGHT TO PLAY IN THE LOBY FOR AGGGGES COS EVERYONE OWN EXCELLENT AND GREAT XBOX 360. IF YOU HAVE PS3 HAHA CRAP TO YOU COS YOU HAVE NO EXCELLENT ACTIVEZION GAMES TO PLAY LOSERS HAHA LOL. TRADE THAT BLACK PAPERWATE IN FOR EXCELLENT 360. HAHA
Posted by The_KFD_Case
It is true that there are millions of PS3 owners. However, what the PS3 *might* shift in units in the future is somewhat irrelevant in the short term perspective of a game's life cycle where it depends far more on how many people have the console and are potential customers *in the present*. You can brag all you want about a desired future outcome but until it actually happens it is less than worthless, except for statisticians trying to predict possible future outcomes. In other other words: Don't count your chickens until they've hatched.
Posted by The_KFD_Case
Yet the Wii is probably also the console that nets the largest profit per unit shifted, whereas the PS3 still appears to be produced at a loss (although one article on CVG seemed to indicate the production costs are now halved for Sony). Furthermore, it is precisely because it has the largest user base that it can better afford to have a lower overall attach rate. If 30 million owners each buy four games, for example, then that still equals a larger purchase transaction than if you have 18 million customers buying six games each. Of course you'd also have to take in to consideration the individual pricing of each game as some sell for more/less than others.
Posted by The_KFD_Case
The thing is, it's not just him stating they find PS3 game development harder (which translates in to being more expensive). Other developers have mentioned it too.

All the spin-doctoring in the world by Sony to this day still hasn't succeeded in making their initial claims of the Cell making people work harder and thus instilling more discipline in children blah blah blah, etc. seem any less pompous, arrogant and ridiculous. There is little sound business sense in spending more resources on achieving a similar result to that produced by a competing system that does it cheaper, and anyone who thinks there is should probably stay away from starting their own business as they've got their business sense hat on ass backwards.
Posted by The_KFD_Case
"Only 5-6 million"? That's a lot of merchandise for any industry/business/product, be it a console or even toothpicks and bullets...And it's a lot of money and a huge boost to potential games sales that affect attachment rates. That isn't an attack against the PS3; that's just the cold, hard financial truth of the matter. Sony would dearly love to have the Xbox 360 numbers, and both Sony and MS would undoubtedly love to hold Nintendo's Wii sales figures.
Posted by The_KFD_Case
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Or it could be that some individuals, like myself, have the funds to buy a PS3 but do not consider it the perceived amount of "bang for buck" sufficient to justify the price. Buying goods or services isn't always just about whether one can afford to do it or not. The customer has to be enticed and what might work on you may not work on others, and vice versa. Besides, I imagine I'm not alone in thinking that there isn't exactly an acute need to have more than one console unless you are absolutely determined to play a few specific games, thus once one console has been bought that's it for that round of console generations. Add PCs in to the mix - which many people do have - and there's even less reason to buy two or three different consoles.
Posted by The_KFD_Case
What about the other years? Has the PS3 sold as well as the Xbox 360 since then? Also, you mention the PS3 is still selling; true, but then again so is the Xbox 360 so what's your point except to regurgitate a trite, old SDF mantra that increasingly sounds hollow and perhaps even a bit desperate?
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) HAHA ME SAY TO YOU DUMP DUMB PS-CRAP OWNERS THAT THE SYSTEM IS FAIL. GET YOUR EHADS OUT YOUR ASS AND UNTWIST YOUR KNICKERS! IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON SILLYS! XBOX IS THE BEST AND PS-CRAP = EPIC FAIL. ME PITY YOU HAHA
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) HAHA I JUST WAS GONNA GO TO SLEEP, UT I REMEMBERED ON MORE HTING! STUPID PS-CRAP DOESNT EVEN HAVE VIBRATING CONTROL PADS! WHAT A PEACE OF SH1T. IF SOMEONE BORUNGHT ME A PS-CRAP ID GET THE RECEIPT AND TAKE IT BACK TO THE SHOP - EXCHANGE FOR SOME GREAT XBOX 360 GAMES HAHA

NIGHT XBOX FREIENDS
NIGHT PS-CRAP NOOBS HAHA

8)
Posted by ted1138
In it's day the PS2 was described as being the hardest platform to develop games on, but it had the lions share of hardware sales, so publishers had to give it their full support. Now the PS3 is in the same possition, only it has a far smaller piece of the pie to play with, making it less cost effective to publish on(how many Wii games can you make for the price of one PS3 game?). Publishers like Activision know that it has the potential to be the number one selling platform(or it did), but only if the price comes down to an affordable amount(affordable to more than fanboys and video game junkies that is).
Posted by blind_fools
OMFG
mayb just mayb if yous stoped turning out games like paris hilton with you know, than mayb yous would be able to make some decent profit.
seriously they just throw games around like there Frisbee every game they release is a cheap piece of shit with so many problems its impossiable to play it without swareing your head off and smashing the controller through the TV.
another point how many GH games are they spitting out this year GH metalica GH greatest hits GH van halen GH 5 not to mention dj hero.
they use to take there time and make there games good but now theve gone the way of EA and just make games for profit who gives a **** if there the worst games ever created.
no wonder rock band is kicking there ass lately.
its realy sad how shit lazy crap publishers stay in bizzo and make $$$$$$ when good talanted publishers like midway bite the dust its realy not fair.
Posted by humorguy
If this is what Activision think about PS3, don't look for any PC titles from them anytime soon! :(
Posted by sevvy b goode
I only know 1 person who has had to buy a replacement as Microsoft admiteedly do repair their product.

And that was due to his being an impatient sod...

I went through 5 PS2s in 4 years and i know plenty of people who had similair problems with them. In fact only 1 console went back to Sony the rest were replacements from the stores. So if your logic is true is it not identical to Sonys PS2 success story?
Posted by TheKraige
If Activision stop supporting PS3 then it could be the nail in the coffin as it would mean PS3 would be missing out on some of the best games and I could imagine if Activision stop developing others may follow.
Posted by only_777
PS3 sold quicker than PS2 or 360, proof:
www.vgchartz.com

PS3 games on a WORLDWIDE scale sell just as well on avarage as their 360 counterparts, proof:
www.vgchartz.com

360 and the PS3 are both great machines, but don't belive none of this rubbish people tell you about PS3 is failing and games not selling.
Do research for yourself and you'll find that actually the PS3 is doing rather well thank you!
Posted by Black Mantis
I think you're missing the point. Whilst the PS3 has relatively sold well, it was expected to be doing much better than it has so far by these 3rd party developers. Factor in the higher cost of developing for the platform and you can see why he said this.

Anyway, I've said it before, they won't cease developing for the PS3, it's just a threat.
Posted by marcofarlio
I think everyone agrees that the PS3 is over priced. Especially when compared to the 360 and the Wii. It is the Blu Ray whcih is mainly stopping the price slump, if no blu ray players drop in price then they can't drop the price of the console.
Posted by Barca Azul
Cool, they really are taking over from EA, the thing is they haven’t worked out that being arrogant doesn’t go down with gamers, but the quality of games is what matters. Take a look at your catalog Bobby you Mug, maybe that’s your attach issue. They also dropped a massive Clanger with Brutal Legend, one of the most promising games they had and EA said thanks very much.

They are Milking Blood out of GH these days, and some other games are going by the wayside too.

The jewel in their crown is CoD and I am sure that the PS3 share is probably around the 40% mark of share of the game. That’s not the sort of revenue you want to cut off.

I think its probably that they are desperate for uptake in PS3. Sony will drop the price this year for sure, but wont be pressured into it by this tool!!
Posted by Barca Azul
Got a link to this from the PSN Blog this yesterday morning

http://www.gamestop.es/buscar-resultados.php?buscar=229,98

Looks like a price drop to me!!

229€ is about Ł195!!
Posted by voodoo341
That's quite an amazing price if it's genuine. I can see them rounding it up to Ł199 though. Even at that I'll pick up a second one just for a Blu Ray player.
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT I SPEAK THE TROTH ABOUT THE PS-CRAP. I'D RATHER HAVE A WII, THAN A PS-CRAP HAHA
Posted by Tobal
just for the record, W.H. Smiths has been selling off their 40gb & 80gb ps3's for ÂŁ200. Probably not stock left now.. i got two 80gb ones, 1 for ebay, 1 for bedroom (original 60gb in lounge)
Posted by The_KFD_Case
That would fall neatly in place with the various rumors that Sony is waiting to sell off it's "bulky" PS3 inventory before releasing the slim PS3.
Posted by jazzy_p
Uncharted: boring
GT5: err yeah right, when exactly?
GoW3: same as the last one
Heavy Rain: Now this one is interesting, but may fail horribly
Guardian: No idea what to think
Broken Sword 5: ooooo shiny, yes please

on the other hand

forza 3: ffs go drive a car
halo odst: yawn
halo reach: loved the book, but yawn
alan wake: now i am jealous of this
splinter cell: whatever
gta exclusives : seriously, wtf, get over this crap already
ninety nine nights 2 : hahahaha
crackdown 2 : see above
left for dead 2: fair enough.


so what we have here is some really interesting games, but mostly homogenous crap. Its hardly worth drawing battle lines over now is it?
Posted by kol2002
good call by Activision!
I haven't brought a game for my pS3 since last year summer. I was waiting for Killzone 2, but it just isn't the game we all thought it would be. Gears of War eats it up online. and none of the Sony games at E3 are even coming out this year? I'm done with my ps3
Posted by jazzy_p
What game did you think it would be?
Its a shooter...it looks pretty..it has good online...

Am i missing something? Does everyone expect ever game to be the next messiah or something?
Posted by deano ward
Sound likes Sony are being bullied into a well needed price cut. If truth be told....they aimed too high with the PS3....it has the insides of a master machine but it's way before it is needed. They should have stuck to a simple machine for this gen and held back it's ideas.
Posted by jazzy_p
^^

Very true
Posted by MrMoobs
Simple answer is maybe activision need to stop producing/developing/releasing so much shit! Only games of note are World at War and Guitar Hero, all the rest > not worth Ł10.. Playstation owners dont buy games just to increase their gamerscore, we want enjoyment thanks.
Posted by azmza
PS still strong console but unfortunalty the main problem is the developing for this console take long and expensive this thing was talking about it for long time and i don't know why the just realize this now lol . :lol:
Posted by dorian2011
lol you may laugh at ninety nine nights 2 but that will sell very well in japan and you cant laugh at crackdown that is going to be awesome oh and MORE more exclusives to the list

lost planet 2
mass effect 2
Champions online
APB
Posted by _Marty_
No way I can be assed to read all this, but all I can say is - knowing how money motivated Activision are, there is no way in HELL they would stop supporting the PS3/Sony. The only thing this is is scare tactics to try to force Sony into a price drop.
Posted by _Marty_
This HAS to be a p*ss take, no one is that retarded and still allowed to interact with humans.
Posted by flash501
In hindsight it's easy to say that Sony aimed too high with the PS3 but before it came out, with all the (slightly exaggerated) storys about what the console would be capable of doing it looked like Sony had yet another recipe for success, but come launch day it's high price coupled with it's frankly appalling line up of launch games was the reason it bombed, that's why I can't understand why Sony won't cut the price of it, it's finally got a few genuinely exciting exclusives coming out for it so surely it would at least give the 360 a run for it's money if it did drop in price.
Posted by dorian2011
ok marty if that was a dig at me calling me retarded i think the guy who wrote a rap about the ps3 is slighty more of a retard :lol: most of the ps3 fanboys are all chavs who buy there games off the dole haha
i just argue about the product and name calling is the way its going this arguement has gone too far
Posted by Black Mantis
It's more likely a stock clearance. Great price though, I'm going to Madrid soon so I might come back with one! Although I still want to see the PS3 Slim in its glory before-hand.
Posted by Sleepaphobic
that may be the case, ones perceived value of a product is the big question. ill gladly buy a gpu that costs a hundred pounds more than a ps3 and be super happy with it so a ps3 is kind of a steal i guess considering all the great stuff you have for it.
anyways, the bottom line is if you are a serious gamer then the price is not a barrier coz there are great games to play (I bought 360 solely for gaiden 2, too bad they messed tht up) and that's what matters.
Posted by pp82
Tobal wrote:
just for the record, W.H. Smiths has been selling off their 40gb & 80gb ps3's for ÂŁ200.

It looks like you are right as they don't have any PS3 in stock. Either that or they have stopped selling them altogether
Posted by jazzy_p
'but that will sell very well in Japan' oh yeah, like thats a mark of quality..monster hunter must be the best game ever.

Lost Planet 2: oh so very crap and a timed exclusive
Mass Effect 2: loved the first game, and a timed exclusive
champions online: Have you ever played city of heroes? obviously not
APB: err so what?

You seem to be missing the point here. Both systems have good games, whether exclusive or not. The majority are just hyped up crap that people like you will buy because you were told to...thus the ever growing spiral into homogenous crap continues.

Seriously, think about it. It makes no sense to be a fanboy these days...its all the same, whether multi console games, or just the same game reskinned for a different market.

Even Marvel and DC fanboys arnt this bad..geeze
Posted by Akumas_Muse
Well not really, no. This pesky 'recession' thingy has somewhat put the mockers on that theory. At the risk of sounding too pedantic, there's millions of people - at least 2m at the last count - out of work and in many cases, with mortgages and/or kids to pay for. I couldn't hazard a guess as to how many of these people would class themselves as 'serious' gamers but if theres three or three hundred one thing's for certain, they're more likely trying to put food on the table than scraping together the finances for whichever state-of-the-art machine isn't currently sat under the TV. Assuming they havent yet had to sell the TV of course.
Posted by lonewolf2002
»

Exactly there are plenty of people with disposable income left at the end of the month and there are plenty that don't.
Posted by lonewolf2002
»»


I never said I had a problem, I said maybe before sleepaholic says "that in his student time he can afford a console so therefore anyone with a full time job should have no problem", he should think about those things as to why people cannot afford a console. Also as regards to affording games etc after people buy a console, do you know how safe anyones jobs are in the next few years? I sure as hell don't. Basically things change beyond our control. 8)
Posted by lonewolf2002
Exactly
Posted by lonewolf2002
How dare you Uncharted is one of my favourite games :cry:
Posted by lonewolf2002
»»

I never said I had a problem obviously not as I own both, I was saying not to judge by your own circumstances. As for poor management,being cheap or not saving...lets hope you never see the side of life where just living takes all of your resources, with no help from anybody.
Posted by fitterthanmost
LOL still arguing about the lame ps3? im off to f*** my girl now sado,s
Posted by voodoo341
She'll be a bit tender after I had her this morning.
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) dorian2011 HAHA U DONT KNOWZ ME! YEAH, I DONT RIGHT TO GOOD GOOD BUT I SPEAK TROTH. PS-CRAP IS A SH1T HEAP HAHA AND voodoo344 UZ CRAP
8)
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) lordironlung DONT PM ME COS UZ A PS-CRAP FAN HAHA FACEE THE TROTH LOSER HAHA
Posted by jazzy_p
good lord, this is becoming to much 'i am legion' for me to take
Posted by lordirongut
OK, PS3rubbish, I PM'd you because I didn't want to make a show of this. I will now. I think just about everyone will agree with me that you need to stop trolling these formus! Anyone agree that all the fanboys need to be banned (please take note CVG moderators)? I love my PS3, 360 and Wii, it's just that I am looking forward to the games on one of them just a bit more, which isn't to say 'Wii SUKz' or 'Xbox is gay'. Hell, Alan Wake looks epic, as do the new Zelda and Metroids. PS3rubbish, go troll somewhere else, you are not welcome here.
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) DIRT TO YOU MAN, PS-CRAP IS FAIL. ALL UR GAMES AR PLOP PLOP. ID RATHER HAVE A WII THAN PS-CRAP (THO 360 IS BEST) HALO OSTT WILL BE G8! 8)
Posted by jazzy_p
shh, you'll mess up the experiment.

think about it, have you seen ps3crap, ps3rubbish and err..gameboy1 in the same room...at the same time. For the matter have you seen JFK in the same room with him?

Its all in the details my friend...its all in the details.
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) GET STUFFED DIRT BAG! IV BEN IN THE SAMGE ROOM AS YOUR MUM, IT WAS QUITE CROWDED THO COS SHES OVERWATE HAHA OWNED. GO BACK TO PLAYING ZOO MANAGER ON PS-CRAP
Posted by ei8hty5ive
8) dorian2011 HAHA U DONT KNOWZ ME! YEAH, I DONT RIGHT TO GOOD GOOD BUT I SPEAK TROTH. PS-CRAP IS A SH1T HEAP HAHA AND voodoo344 UZ CRAP
8)

How many mistakes can one person write in one sentence?!

8) dorian2011 HAHA (comma) U (You) DONT (Don't)KNOWZ (Know) ME! YEAH, I DONT (don't) RIGHT (Write) TO (Too)GOOD GOOD(Comma, writtten twice) BUT I SPEAK TROTH (Truth). PS-CRAP IS A SH1T HEAP HAHA AND voodoo344 UZ (You are) CRAP(Full stop) (Written all in capitals.)
8)

Youth of today eh...
Posted by dorian2011
lol well dont judge games before there released jazzy lol but everyone has diffrent tastes lol this article has over 200 comments lol
to go off topic anyone know whats happnd to the game dead island? i was looking forward to that lol
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) YAH ME ALREADY SAID I DONT SPEEK TOO GOOD GOOD BUT ANYWAY, PS-CRAP DOESNT HAVE THE HALO. OMG EVEN BEYONCE RITE SONGS AOUT HALO LOL HAHA WIN 8)

NIGHT NIGHT XBOX BROTHRS
NIGHT TO PS-CRAP LOSSERS
Posted by _Marty_
Cool, lets all do that :)
No strawberry touching though.
Posted by Sleepaphobic
damn, thats deep
guess im lucky or smthg coz in all honousty i havent really felt this "recession" that much. a family to support is not smthg im into though but i do have to support myself and i get by ok. thats my point, not every1 has the burden (ya tht word seems right) of raising kids and by looking at many posts here i am certain thats the case (if im wrong i feel sorry for the those poor kids); whats the reason they dont buy the hardware?

srry if ive offended any1 who is genuinely going through tough times, i was directing the question more towards those people who seem to have the money but think that its not worth it or they just want a cheap fix.
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) Sleepaphobic UZ IS INSENCITIVE AND DONT KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKE MY MOM HAVE NO MONIES. RATS TO YOU PS-CRAP FAN BOY. I SH1T ON U HAHA OWNED
Posted by jazzy_p
While i will not argue with that assesment of my mothers 'wate', i would point out that ive never played zoo manager on anyones ps crap thank you.

as for judging games before they are released, fair enough...but it works both ways, its hardly justifiable to say the xbox releases are better than the ps3 ones..before you have played them.

I want to know what happened to LA noire.
Posted by pedroukuk
Whats the fastest thing on land?
Stevie Wonder's speedboat.
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) SHUT IT PETROL MAN, AND JAZZY MAN THE FASTED TING ON LAND IS PSRUBBISH (ME) PATROLLING THE FORUMS TO SHUT DOWN PS-CRAP FAN OYS HAHA EAT ME 8)
Posted by Fear_The_Llamas
I'd love Grasshopper to explain how this guy would get "fired" when he is the boss of the company
Posted by The Bossman
ps3rubbish, you truly are a 1 dimensional fanboy. Just **** off. As for the story, nothing will happen. Sony will improve over the next 2 years, and the Activision boss should learn to shut the **** up.
Posted by ledickolas
Holy mother of god..........this is like the Apocalypse Now of Fanboy Wars.

:shock:
Posted by altitude2k
I know....9 pages! Don't think I've ever seen that happen to one news thread.

On topic. Yes, I agree it may have been a bit (read quite) foolish of Sony to make the PS3 deliberately hard to code for. But even so, for a company the size of Activision to cut out a whole 3rd of the market is just retarded.
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
Sorry just got here,

Will someone tell me who this infant is? What a sad *******, at least Wiigodboy is funny, but this tit is boring
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
Petrol man? Where is he, you aint talking to ya self are ya? Someone call the men in the white coats, this muppet needs help :shock:
Posted by voodoo341
It is Wiigodboy, has to be.
Posted by Mmmmgrolsch
Why has he been banned? Wiiboy doesnt normally make this many replies in 1 thread
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) Mmmmgrolsch UZ A DIRT BAG HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A FAN BOY! CALL ME A TROTH BOY! OR TROTH MAN HAHA OWNED! IM SAYEING WHAT IM SEEEING, PS-CRAP IS FOR NERDS.
8)
(PC CRAP TOO. XBOX 360 FTW HAHA LOLZ)
8)
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) voodoo 355 U SHUTY IT TO U A55

(C'MON 360 BORTHERS, LETS TESTIFY!) HAHA
8)
Posted by lwill
You have faaaar too much spare time.
Posted by ledickolas
I don't believe they made the PS3 difficult to program for deliberately. It's all ill-advised propoganda. It's new technology as far as I'm aware, and as such it took a while for developers to 'get it'.

Microsoft went for the PC in the box option, which made it easier to program for yet incurs it's own problems. The amount of crashes I had in the early days was ridiculous.

That's my 2p anyway, and remember folks 'Charlie Don't Surf'

Look ma I made a funny.....COD 4? Apocalypse Now? Activision? Anybody? Ah, forget it.
Posted by lordirongut
Firstly, you repeated the word 'plop'. Secondly, it's called Halo ODST, which you should have known as a fanboy. Thirdly, you say all my games are plop plop (whatever that means) does that include all my collection of 12 360 games? You should listen in your English lessons, in twelve years time when you do GCSE's you might have to construct a decent argument. Let me put that in 'fanboy' for you. HAHA EPICZ LOULZ U IZ GNA EOPIC FAIL UR GSCES HAHAHA ROFL.
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) iron U ARE A FAKE! HAHA NOOB ITS HALO OSTT! HALO Orbital Supper Trooper Time IVE GOT A PRE-ODOR. U SHOULDNT HAVE XBOX AND PS-CRAP 8)
Posted by ps3rubbish
8) HAHA ME AGHAIN ledickolas GET LOST - TIM WASTER! 8)
Posted by pedroukuk
The PS3 is sh*t,
If you have one your a tit,
The games are all so manky,
you must be very wan*y,
It's going down the pan,
Just like my dear old gran,
No more Call of Duty for you,
So you can all fu*k off

Thank you... thank you
Posted by flash501
:lol: Holy crap, this is like watching the evolution of man....in reverse, in think we're roughly back at the stone age period now.
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