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Still saying the game has been getting good reviews I think Microsoft have slipped up holding them all back until a week before the game is released. WTF?!!11?! IF THIS WAS A 360 GAME IT'D GET MUCH HIGHER MARKS!1!!1111!
Oh, wait a minute... (Yes PS3 nazi's, I'm being ironic, take note...) :shock: only 7.9. CVG you're all Sony fanboys. :wink: Lower than I was hoping for, but about what I expected. I will expect Halo Wars 2 to be a much better game. Still a day-one purchase for me - if only for Sandbox. What do you mean its not an 8.5? I said it would be an 8.5 so it HAS to be an 8.5 :wink: !!!
In all seriousness though it would be good if they can make the RTS fun on a console and I personally cant wait to try out some MP battles :D . I'm more than satisfied with this score. Going by the demo I really can't see how this could have been bettered significantly without it losing it's simplicity with it.
As long as this game scores consistantly around the 8/10 mark, I'm fine with that.
I have it pre-ordered, and can't wait for it either. No I'm not sore, why would I be? I love the demo, have my pre-order in place, and don't really care what scores it gets. I've made up my mind and will enjoy the game. The scores from other reviews tend to vary depending on how much the reviewer compares it to PC RTS games. I just hope that that comparison never gets in the way of the game recieving well-deserved scores, bias-free. what has this got to do with halo?
they just stuck the name on it to sell more.
command and conquer re-skinned. And that's a bad thing? :roll: I thought the controls on this were more or less the sane on CC:RA3????? Yeah, had to dumb it down massively for consoles as expected. Shame. Nice try by the sounds of it, but the experiment has failed. RIP Halo Franchise.
Pre order cancelled, stick with Red Alert on PC I think. They were on about C&C 3. I've heard that Red Alert controls pretty well too, haven't tried myself. I didnt realise you had played the game Mogs? It's neither a bad thing nor very accurate.
I see the PS3 owning floodgates are now open and will now be inundate with 'LOLZ' and 'RIP Halo' etc etc.
Strangely, there won't be any mention of CVGs Anti-Sony/Pro-Microsoft bias... tidy score for a console RTS game!
bit its all about the mouse and keyboard i supose »
Its pretty sad Marty, eh? Still as long as they get enjoyment from it then let them, ill just be happy playing the games I enjoy whilst they start growing an ulcer or 2. I didn't either. I've warmed to the demo a lot and I've got a game voucher for my birthday so it's going on the special edition. 7.9 is a respectable score for an experimental concept. They didn't do too bad. RIP Ensemble. Now all they need to do is make the Flood playable and add a covenant campaign, cos it's a little light on content.
Going to see if I can build 'Boarding Action' in the much touted sky bubble on sandbox. Well if they're not ever going to do it themselves.......... RIP Halo?
Since when did one review score spell a gloomy end for one of the biggest game series?.....
Still, i got mine on pre-order, i went on the demo and i really enjoyed it. Hopefully it will a success to give Ensemble Studios a great final note. »
Ahh. I see. Your basing your opinion on some PS3 Fanboys who want the game to fail and PC Gamers who have a bit of an inferiority complex. That makes more sense now, thanks for clearing that up for me. »»
No, I'm basing it on the review. 7.9 is respectable effort, but it couldn't even scrape an 8. Nice try given the limitations they have to work with, but ultimately this is RTS Lite for Gamer Lites. Well, I hope everybody enjoys it, regardless of score. Though you must admit, it was inevitable that the fanboys would come knocking because every Killzone 2 thread was chock full of 'generic, boring, grey etc,' comments. It's payback time in their eyes.
Best to ignore them, though I know how frustrating it is. »»»
Nice dig, liking your work Mogs :D .
I must have missed the meeting where a a 7.9 was a failure, could you pass me over the minutes please :wink: ? »»»
agreed, paying Ł30+ for laughable console rts with halo skin really does make you a gamer lite :lol: Double post. Oops. »»»»
To add to that, people seem to have missed the scores of 9 that it's been recieving all over the place - both Xbox specific and multi-format sites.
CVG is hardly the be all and end all of gaming review sites... »»»»
I'm a gamer lite then :(
How can I save face in front of the Mighty Mogs and the chosen one that is Jigsaw?
Wait...I don't care! Game on fellow gamer lites! :D 'Gamer Lite'? That's probably the most ridiculous phrase I've ever heard... Wow I guess Halo sucks as an RTS AS WELL as an FPS!
This has gone on long enough, joke's over.
The whole Halo fad must come to an end. There is nothing, and there has never been anything, special about it. yup
but the halo games are made for console gamers who have probably never played on a PC and so those fps's seem absolutely perfect for those people. Same thing for this effort, many people have probably never played an rts ever on the PC so this as well will seem as a pretty good game to them. This game is an EPIC FAIL
Gamespot score is 6.5 An ok game, but Halo on XBOX redefined the FPS genre so this game was never going to live up to it. as yahtzee once said:
"halo came along and revolutionized the genre by adding limited weapon capacity, regenerating health and being generally sh1t".
its people like you that make halo sell so well for unknown reasons.
just had 2 edit and add this
not trying 2 fight you or anything man so dont take anything personally :D How about getting rid of the age old 'press 1 to equip melee, then left click to hit the enemy' and replacing it with one button that melees with any weapon you have. The same goes for grenades, no more pressing 0 to get the grenade out, then throw it after the moment's gone. Same with vehicles, none of this 'on the rails' shit like with MOH. Pick any vehicle lying around jump in it and cause some damage.
It made combat a lot more closer, faster and with more improv. »i can see where you are coming from with those changes kind off making everything much quicker but I absolutely hate melee attacks (with rifle butt )as they are always way too powerful in any game. I also always thought the vehicles controlled very poorly which is the case for every fps I can think of (not just bashing halo here). I may be wrong here but there must have been other games for quick access to grenades, soldier of fortune being the only game I can really think had it. If not then ok you have tht one but I am either mistaken or played it wrong but you cant even cook the grenades in halo.
I suddenly feel retarded if you can do tht
DAMN! :lol: »»
Well melee is meant to be overpowered because you can only use it at point blank range, like why the shotgun is so powerful at close range too. I can't remember if you could in Soldier of Fortune, all I remember from that is blowing people's limbs off! There probably was a game before Halo that did it, but my point is that you can draw a clear line before and after Halo;
before = 100 health, health packs and armour, carry any gun, change to melee, change to use grenades, no vehicles or pointless vehicles.
after = regenerating health, no health or extra 100 armour, limited gun slots, instant melee, instant grenade, all weapons have their day, useful vehicles.
It probably didn't create any of those, but it took them all and made them work so well and make it feel so fast and unpredictable and fun that everything since then has copied some of them.
Anyway, Halo Wars is no SupCom but that was to be expected. Hell they made SupCom on the 360 and that was shitter than Halo Wars so sometimes less is more. »»»hey everybody has their own thing, if you like halo then thts kl but it gets way too much hype in my opinion but lets stop there coz things like these never finish, just like how me and sum1 else can (and do) fight till we grow old about how trance is now killing the electronic music scene but thts a totally diff thing.
Anyways, one thing that really pisses me off is tht fight club isnt on blu-ray yet. wtf is with tht????? You're way off point with those claims man. I've played both genres on PC and still enjoy the Halo games. You'll find it rings true for others as well. »
Halo actually convinced me to move away from PC FPS games altogether. And I used to be the biggest PC fanboy, playing CS and BF all the time. Now I let my PC do what it does best, make spreadsheets and word documents. ZOMG, CVG bias against the PS3!
Oh, hang on... »»»
Bang on the mark there sir. I didn't 'get' Halo for years, and then I actually played it. Halo did for FPS what Sonic did or platforming: moved the genre away from being an excercise in frustration and self-testing, and towards being an experience. :lol:
All Halo did was take a mediocre FPS and 'tailor' it for console audiences whose prior experience of the genre was extremely limited, if not simply non-existant. People go on about the most trivial features like they're some sort of redefining of the genre (recharging health bar) when all they are are minor tweaks & variations that ALL games have.
Halo is a triumph of marketing and luck on MS's part. Another prime example of the deftness they have shown in exploiting the ignorance of console gamers. Agreed on the bold.
/me runs »
Funnily enough I used to game avidly on the PC but find the Halo series a bore but thats only my own worthless opinion. You couldn't be more wrong. I, like a lot of people I know, were an avid fan of PC FPS games. From Wolfenstein 3D and Doom to CS, Quake 3, BF1942, Deus Ex, HL etc. etc. etc. You can't tell me that I don't know a thing or two about the genre. But ever since I bought the original Xbox and got Halo, my play time on PC games has decreased exponentially to the point where I just refuse to play any games on the PC at all (the clincher was the release of the Orange box on the 360 - game over, PC gaming). I might make an exception for Black Mesa Source, and Quake Live during lunch breaks, but that's about it. you seriously choose to play the same games on the 360 over the PC? I dont get tht unless its a racer or platformer (dont use controllers for PC gaming).
And where the fu(k is freakin fight club on blu-ray dammit! »
Different strokes man... »
Yes. I'd rather play my games without the fear of developing geek-hunch, without having to wait for Windows to load up and without having to fork out to keep my PC gaming-friendly. What happened to you Mogs, you used to post some valid stuff, but now you just come up with inane geeky sarcastic comments like 'pc gaming is dead rofl' or just general trolling. I guess you have just gone bitter because of the popularity of consoles and your arch nemesis MS and so you've become a troll, how sad.
As has been pointed put, many people who played Halo had vast experience of FPS's before hand, what on God's earth would make you think otherwise? Do you also assume that people playing Killzone 2 are people who never played an FPS before, or that people playing Battlefield 2 or Half-Life 2 have never played an FPS before? I mean really, what do you base this nonsense on? Surely you are just sour that a game YOU don't like, published by a company YOU hate is so popular and so you try to validate your hatred of the game by coming up with ludicrous games that 'all people who enjoyed Halo were 5 and therefore had never played an FPS before'. Let me guess, it applies to all the people who gave it great reviews too, they were in a high enough position to review the game for various magazines, yet none of them had ever played an FPS before... you're clutching at straws.
I've had a great experience of games on PC, from Wolfenstein, to Duke Nukem 3D, all the Quakes (just the demo of 4, because 4 really doesn't count), original CS, MOHAA, CS:S, BF games and most recently STALKER to name a few. And yet I still really enjoy playing Halo because it's a great stress-reliever and such fun compared to the blood pressure raising and shouting at the screen and all the hackers on CS:S. As I said this fight can never be resolved. If i say the art style is very poor there's others who think its the best thing in the world. If i say the level design is some of the worst i can remember for a shooter there will be others who think its genius for some reason. If i say the AI (especially friendly) is pretty much retarded then some will say its actually pretty good even though they cant shoot to save their lives or if they drive you off a cliff or under a scarab's foot. I also think character models are basic and sound design and graphics are fairly average (not that bad actually). Story is laughable while some think its deep and characters are extremely shallow but of course people think there's great depth to them. Very clunky vehicle controls, very short campaign (lots of games are guilty of this though), cartoonish physics and a soundtrack that seems to consist of two tracks. Then the multiplayer is pretty standard with not much depth and I know there are people who think its the best online game in the history of the universe (still have to give props to bungie for the design aspect to it). Of course many of these are subjective in nature so many will agree or disagree with me and I acknowledge that but I try to find out why people love it so much and the things I hate others love somehow and so its a endless argument.
Just to throw this out there halo 3 was the only bearable one out of the lot and was still only average in my opinion. How it can compare to the orange box and bioshock (score wise) and how popular it is I'll never understand ; just like american football.
anyways this thread is for halo wars so why dont we bash that (or love it as some will :roll:) Halo Wars isn't fit to polish Jools grave on Cannon Fodder. Fact. Get over yourself. Why can't you just accept that people are into different things than you? You don't have to understand why, just know that gamers are diverse. Simple. dont mind at all that people love this game to death but when it is regarded by many to be the best and really push tht belief publicly it feels kind of weird to me.
like i love the socom games to death but I never have gone around shouting its the best 3rd person shooter in existence and I never will. Yes, because as we all know, Halo was the first ever console based FPS.
There was no Goldeneye, Doom, Quake, Turok, Medal of Honour, Perfect Dark, Duke Nukem etc etc etc...
Even if you make the (HUGE) assumption that most people that had an Xbox and Halo had no exposure to the PC and it's plethora of FPSs, there are still STACKS of that genre to choose from on the consoles...
And that's ignoring the fact that Halo was also on the damn PC too (and generally scored well on that format to boot!).
Get off your high horse Mogs.
And as for 'Gamer Lite', that has to be the most ridiculous, condescending thing I've ever read! Are PC Gamers the only 'true' gamers out there then? All those that exclusively play games on consoles are a lesser breed I suppose?
It must be difficult being a superior being. Gamer LIte. Yes people that play games on games consoles. Machines built specifically for gaming obviously aren't proper gamers.
but people that play games on PCs machines that are built to do a multitude of things, gaming being a pleasurable offshoot are the real gamers.
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