Share this article: Digg.comFacebookGoogle BookmarksN4GGamerblipsdel.icio.usRedditSlashdot.orgStumbleUpon Any idea what time this goes live tomorrow? Looks really good from the snippets I've seen. Excellent.
Will defo be downloading this tomorrow.
Im glad someone reviewed it too, as I was getting quite worried to be honest! The rockstar site says 3am EST, which is 8am over here. I was hoping it would be there at midnight in the UK store but what can you do?!? Why is it that people always seem to forget the $50million was a loan and not a payment for the exclusive ownlaodable content? £14.99?! Looking really really good as usual R*. I know that a lot of people didnt like the mature themes of GTA IV and wanted that carefree off the wall nonsense to be more prevalent but Ive grown up since playing GTA back in the day and so it seems have R*. Something that I couldnt be happier about :D .
Bring on Episode 2!!! £14.99 is not bad at all considering this DLC is longer than alot of actual games It's £13.99 btw. Anyway, I can't wait! The heavens have smiled upon me this week, as DFS are going to deliver my new sofa on wednesday, so I had to take the day off. New sofa+Lost & Damned = :D is it just me or did that review have several points at which it could end i have heard that it goes live either 10AM or 3AM i think it's probably 10AM even if microsoft lost that money getting the dlc it woouldn't take them long to get the money back i have heard that microsoft makes something like $358 million every 12 hours No they don't. They actually posted quite a big loss in some divisions last year, and are in the process of making 5000 people redundant and tightening the purse strings. Not a happy time to be a software developer at the moment... Rockstar's told us it should go live at 8AM (GMT). Sounds great and a real shining light for GTA4 fans.
Personally, I think that this stark segregation of console exclusive DLC is beginning to ruin gaming for the masses. I personally wouldn't buy the expansion because it doesn't overly interest me at this time - though it could do in the future. However, my brother will be gutted he can't play the expansion, yet he won't buy a 360 just to play some DLC of a game he has completed on the PS3.
I just don't see the point in this exclusive DLC as I don't believe it has given the 360 an advantage in sales of GTA4 or improved the sales of the console as such. All it has achieved is bragging rights for 360 fans. And I am sure that a lot of GTA4 PS3 owners (though they may not admit it) will be disappointed that they can't play this new story.
Still, at least some can enjoy it. Pity it isn't all. Why don't you let him borrow your 360? That would mean buying another copy of the 360 version of GTA4 (I traded mine in months ago) and also buying the DLC. Pretty expensive proposition, but I see where you are coming from. Still, why should he have to do that? He has collected most of the trophies on the PS3 version and would probably rather do the same for the DLC. 'Aint gonna happen. Though if he was willing to foot the bill, it would be fine by me. Stop whining and be happy that its good shit face, maybe sony just shouldnt be so tight Why the insults? Do you feel smart calling him that? Are you a Cardiff fan? Only MS could afford 50 mil for DLC, jizz mush.
And look at it this way (when you've wiped your face), R* could be working on GTA5 right now, rather than this (admittedly great looking) DLC. »
Sometimes I wish I had another hobby, such as birdwatching or trainspotting. Less teenage angst to deal with.
I think mummy has told him to turn the 360 off because it's bedtime. Poor blighter. I'm staying up all night to 'practise' on GTA4 for when this is released. If anyone's up for some carnage, add my gamertag: Godlike Ape It did give the 360 advantage in sales. GTA4 for 360 outsold the PS3 version 3 to 1, maybe even more. Yes, the 360 has a larger install base but it isn't 3 times larger. The announcement of the dlc long ago actually pushed me into finally picking up a 360. And even now, there are some other boards I frequent where a small handful of people have picked up 360's just for this DLC. Not to mention that before GTA4, the GTA franchise was heavily associated with the playstation brand and that has been mostly changed now.
And you can complain about this move all you like but it is no different than Sony having LCS and VCS exclusively. I also some how doubt you actually own a 360. If you did then you wouldn't be so down in the dumps over this dlc. Even if you had to repurchase the game, you can find it incredibly cheap now and there is still one more episodic dlc to come. he owns a 360 and ill stake my life on it as hes on my friends list...... parade pissed on???? :lol: :lol: :lol: I`m intrigued by the game but i refuse to DL until rockstar give us a full setlist as to what the new songs are as if it`s only sepultura who`ve signed up then count me out,although i think i heard some crue in the background to the trailer they released the other day ,anyone elese hear it? getting this the sec i wake up. looking forward to the story. I just hope this eventually comes out on the PC version, and they fix the lack of Anti-Aliasing. I want my game to look as good as the screen shots! DAMNED not Dammed - fix your headline! »
Oh yes, that completely ruins everything. Like the points I made about how MS paying for the DLC was indeed a good business move already. Or that the same thing has been done before with VCS and LCS for Sony. But no, because he actually owns an Xbox that has all been cancelled out and I must now call off my "parade". You really put me in my place there. :roll: You're absolutely wrong with that one unless your 3 to 1 ratio is different to mine.
GTA4 sold 5.8 million units on the PS3 and 6.7 million units on the 360. That's not a 3 to 1 difference in my books. It did sell almost on a 3 to 1 ratio in the states where shockingly, the 360 has outsold the PS3 by almost an identical ratio. GTA4 sold very strongly for the PS3 in Europe and did surprisely well in Japan where it was published by Capcom just before Christmas. If you go onto any NPD disclosing web site you can find the figures for yourself. got it on the download now. looking forward to give it a go. I have been searching for a while now and can't seem to get the figures you've posted. Could you provide a link please? All I've found so far is sales for December 08' that are 3.29 million for 360 and 1.89 for PS3. Whether these were world wide or not I don't know. And then on VG Chartz they have a total sales of 6.8 million world wide or something close to it. I know VG chartz aren't that accurate, but this is all I could seem to find.
Nevermind, I found it. I must have been going off of US sales only. Time to cancel that parade. :( muhahahahah look at all the sad little xbots rushing to buy their highlight of the year.
i laugh at them. »
If I were you, I would concentrate more on enjoying this new download, than worrying about how many units were sold on each console. Does it really matter?
If each gamer had the same things to look forward to, then we wouldn't have to put up with this pointless banter all the time.
Honestly, the hate shown to individuals on these sites, just because they prefer a different console is crazy.
Not a dig at you, btw. im 360 user and even i find a bit shitty that PS3 users dont get to play this too. whats the big deal about it being on both? once you've paid your 35+ quid for GTAIV why should you then not be able to play on because of your console choice? shitty way if treating the very people who keep the games companies in sweets and red bull. having said that im gonna risk an almighty tear up with the missus later as im kaning it round liberty city on a chopper blowing the shit out of everything rather than takin her out. :D oh yeah. I agree completely with the sentiment Mark. For those of us that have only one or the other console, to see the other one getting exclusive content is disheartening, to say the least. You feel like you've bought a second class citizen of game.
However, I would actually extend this to exclusives in general. I don't want to HAVE to buy a PS3 for purely a handful of exclusives that interest me, and I'm sure PS3 owners don't want to HAVE purchase a 360 for the same reason.
It's a bug bear of mine, and the main reason I'm behind the single format idea... The PC doesn't have 'Pentium 4 exclusive' games, eh?
And I see daily isn't even trying to disguise his 'crimbo'-ness... :roll: i am afraid i don't know what you are talking about i am new here Cant wait to get home to play this all night.
Whats with the "Polygon cock and balls" ??
Trust Rockstar.
:roll: Yes, yes. Let's see... Made yesterday, shortly after crimbos banning. Lower case user name. Calls people 'xbots'. Describes Xbox avatars as Miis. Gets overly excited at any PS3 news and think that it will 'blow the Xbox out of the water'. Protests too much.
Yeah, you're clearly a different person :roll: it makes no difference to me if you don't think i am a new person because i know i am a new person » Shall we get Gav to check your IP address? »»
no he does not need to »»
They do say that when one dies, another one is born. Just laugh at him Marty.
You have to agree that he is hilariously persistant!
If you dont argue with him, he will go away.
You're like Voodoo and Schmuppet you two are! Oh for God's sake,
daily is clearly crimbo, who was clearly tam, who was clearly Suivaloom...
Doesn't this moron have anything better to do with his time? Surely he should be w*nking over his PS3 or something? At least Voodoo and Schmuppet have a level of intellect about them, and I for one don't fear them breeding...* :)
And I can't laugh at him - stupid people bug me.
*Note: Not with each other :D Ooohh dont start on that!
I made an innocent little joke about them having a little bit of sexual tension between them and I got absolutley destroyed for it!
I think the phrase is 'The lady Doth protest too much' :lol:
Crimbos mental though. He can come up with some pretty insiteful stuff sometimes, but most of the time he just wants to annoy people.
Im downloading L & D now by the way. I cant wait for this. »»»
What are your thoughts on Gav, daily? - just so we can be sure that you're not crimbo....
I'm so tempted to go out at lunch and buy some Billy Points for this...sounds friggin' awesome.
:) no »»»»
sorry but i am not aware of this person I've got to anyway today - Black Sunshine and More Human Than Human by White Zombie are appearing on Rock Band. WOOOOO!!!!! MHtH is an awesome song.
Oh, and I lent my copy of GTAIV to a mate. How annoyed am I? :) »»
That would be wonderful, but unfortunately that is how things are. I'd love to be able to play several of the exclusives on the PS3. But I can't, unless I ran out and bought the system. I can't justify spending that much on gaming right now in these times of financial crisis. I just see this dlc as an exclusive, just as KZ2 or better yet MGS4 is an exclusive. I also don't see what would keep a fan of the series with a 360 from getting the dlc. The game can be bought new or used now for cheap, and with it you can get TL&D and the second episode as well. So I jumped to conclusions and I appologize. Problem I have is purely time - I'm not sure I'd get much of a chance to play it over the next couple of weeks.
Incidentally - where do you tend to get your points from?...know of any good deals at the moment?
That's unfortunate...mine's nicely sitting in with the other games - I can definitely see it getting a whirl in the 360 drive soon though!
:) I have mates come over every Tuesday for 'band practice' :) Finally got the million fan achievement last week. Wicked.
I know I shouldn't, but I tend to buy mine in 500s or 1000s, and they are therefore the same price all over - so I just buy them from the dashboard. You can get them cheaper if you buy a couple of thousand though.
Were it not for Fallout 3 I'd be asking him to send it back to me :) Typical CVG Sony-fanboy crap. MS didn't paid 50 mil for this. Besides here is ANOTHER DLC coming down the road. you do know Shmuppet sent me a Valentines card?
Oh yes, heres one verse
Roses are red Violets are blue I almost love my 360 As much as I love you
It's all little kisses and hearts as well. Kinda cute. been playing for 2 hours, more of the same awesomeness. proper brilliant. :lol: Ha! Ha! I knew it!
I bet he doesnt even have an Xbox, just any excuse to talk to you!
Just been on Lost and Damned by the way and it is really superb.
Its wierd cos you know you are in the same city as before, but it just seems different. I dont know if they have added quite alot, but it feels like they have.
The dialouge in GTA games is still streets ahead of anything else.
Problem is that because I know its gonna be fairly short I sort of dont want to play it. I dont want it to end. »
:lol: I know what you mean by wanting to make it last longer! Look at it this way; At least it's short enough for multiple playthroughs, I've had the original since launch and I've only gone through it twice.
My downloads finished now, problem is I'm still at work till half 4 :( At least I have tomorrow off anyhow. :D Yeah, I shouldnt complain to be honest cos its apparently about 10 hours long.
Thats longer than most full price games are these days.
I am very scepticle about the ten hours thing though. they said it would be a third as big as the main story, so most people said the main story was 30 hours so this would be ten.
Personally though, I completed the main story in just under 20 hours, so Im really expecting this to be somewhere between 6 and 8 hours long.
Still, its good so far. You've got plenty to look forward to. There is A LOT of swearing! »»
i should have been more clear, i was only actually referring to you accusing him of not having a 360 because its clear mark prefers his ps3, i prefer my 360 for your information before i get accused of taking sonys side or something equally as daft, it just annoys me when some people on this board throw wild accusations, like people of not owning a console because someone else dares criticise or dare to point things out about someone elses choice of preferred console. you can actually own all the consoles and point bad things out about each of them you know. no hard feelings - *extends hand* I'm astounded no-one's complained about it getting a better score than KZ2 yet. all the people moaning about this DLC only going to the 360, money talks. Sony should know that better than anyone. Back in the dreamcast days sony did their best using bullying tactics, INCLUDING buying 3rd party exclusivity onto the playstation. it was easy pick on a company like SEGA whos wallet had a huge dent in it.
Unfortunetly for Sony, what goes around, comes around and here we are 10 years on. Theres always someone bigger, badder, and with more money in the bank. So i say ha-bloody-ha to Sony. Absolutely brilliant!! I'm loving this so far, just had my first Road Rash type race and then got a text message of one of the others racers saying "Was that you that smacked me, shit thanks a lot" made me laugh quite a bit, it's good to see R* have injected a bit of humour into this unlike the main story line. »»»
Yes, sorry about earlier. No hard feelings. »»»»
Wow, it's enough to make a grown man cry. A bit of humility on this site is a rare thing indeed.
I know that apology was aimed at Voodoo, but Kudos anyway.
As for the game itself, I imagine it is well worth a 90% as you are basically getting a full game for half the price. My only gripe was that not everybody who payed for the full game can play this DLC. Absolutely crazy and just plain wrong, as we all payed the same money for it in the first place.
R* should be ashamed. »»»»»
It was actually aimed at you, I didn't accuse voodoo of anything. But I was a bit rude to you and once more, I apologize.
I don't think R* should be ashamed, I don't think they really wanted things to turn out like this. I just think they were in a tough spot financially and needed funding for this project. So they had to go and ask Sony and MS and in return they had to agree to certain terms and conditions. Had it not been the case and R* had plenty of money to fund their own project then this dlc would be multi platform. I've no doubt about it. the machine guns on the police helicopters are loads more powerful. i'm not sure if this happened just in this dlc but if so it's worth half the price alone for me :0) »»»» :wink: They are. I just got nailed in team deathmatch over and over by a swarm of the *******s!
Spent most of the game under a bridge. Spent yesterday playing L&D. So far its awesome. It's bizaare, you know its an add on but it feels like a completely new game. I definately agree that R* could of stuck it on a disc and sold it retail.
To all the PS3 owners a little sour about it being exclusive. I'd be really surprised if R* didn't make something else for the PS3 version or eventually release non exclusive dlc that will come to it as well.
IF you want to get angry get pissed at Sony. If i remember rightly GTA IV was originally going to be a PS3 exclusive but Sony said they weren't interested. Is there a way of gettin this without bein on xbox live? Don't you get xbox live (gold) for free this weekend? I'm sure I heard that somewhere. Check it out. »»»»»»
No worries, matey. And you're probably right. Unfortunately for PS3 fans, Sony are not renowned for paying extra for things, especially this gen.
Like another poster said, maybe R* will release some multi-platform dlc in the future, though I'd personally rather have them concentrate on GTA5. can you prove that claim with a link to some facts showing it? MS has paid big for this...But I bet Rockstar are kicking themselves knowing that SO many of those PS3 users would have bought this DLC, suddenly the 50mil MS coughed up doesn't seem so good does it?
I'm unbiased though, I've got PS3 + 360, and I will eventually enjoy the DLC on 360, but it is a shame.
1. For the players that wont get a chance to play the new DLC, or at least not for the next year when it is DLC, I'm sure it wont stretch to 'disc based' content, then R* can get their PS3 players.
2. Assuming the second part of point 1 doesn't come true, it was a bad business decision on R*s part. They are a great producer with evidently high production values. Was it $50m or £50m? It all comes down to how much R* get per download I suppose. If they got $10 (50%) they would need 5m downloads, isn't that about half of combined PS3 and 360 GTA4 sales.
I don't think Rockstar will be worrying too much about the decision. It was money in the bank in an uncertain financial climate after all.
Then there's the thing that was the $50m an advance or a 'we'll give you $50m but we get all the money from downloads' situation? I guess we'll know when we see the ratio of DLC to GTA4 on the 360.
Oh and there were rumours about PS3 exclusivity for GTAIV, but as with all these things, we'll never know exactly what the score was. But previous GTA's were exclusive when Sony was the dominant platform, I reckon Sony would have had to stump up one hell of a payment to compensate R* for 5m+ missed sales.
While googling this quickly, I found a story that said all R* releases after GTA would be PS3 exclusive - yeah right!! Thats quite an old story. It was before it became clear that the PS3 was never going to be the top player this gen. They've since pledged more support to Nintendo and MS stumped up to get the Dlc rights to GTA IV something sony haven't been doing not just for GTA but Fallout 3's, and tomb raiders Dlc will also be MS exclusive.
Its good business for MS as it should of swung some people to by the 360/PC versions of the games rather than the PS3 one.
As for the devs i'm sure they have been addequetly compensated. You've got to speculate to accumulate. so you can't back up your claim ? Loving the DLC! I think Rockstar nailed the impression of Johnny being a LC native, and an experienced bike rider. I've played for just over ten hours now and have only completed 51%. Gameplay-wise, it's much improved. Side-missions are tighter and more focussed, you're not forced to phone your friends and the bike mechanics are great.
Minor gripes. The Npc's aren't as good as the ones in Niko's adventure and Johnny has a pretty bland personality too.
All in all a great package and a demonstration of how dlc should be done. Roll on dlc package 2! |