Share this article: Digg.comFacebookGoogle BookmarksN4GGamerblipsdel.icio.usRedditSlashdot.orgStumbleUpon The score is what I expected really, I was sort of hoping for a 9 but 8.8 isn't exactly alot lower.
Still, I'll be playing it death as soon as it's out :D . I mean, MARIO KART WIFI! It's like a dream come true! I've loved Mario Kart on every platform, yet I've been worried about this game from the start. After all the delays for Galaxy, Metroid and Smash Bros, Nintendo really came up with the goods. Yet Mario Kart seems to have been turned around in a much shorter time, because of this I've had the feeling it would be lacking in some areas.
That said, it's still a decent score, just not quite up to Nintendo's usual high standards (that said I will still be buying it!). I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. I read this review in NGamer. It doesn't say much about the solo mode, and in the mag the mission mode is only mentioned in a picture caption. The review was written by one Matthew Castle, whose reviewing skills leave much to be desired, and I can't believe they give him all the big games (he reviewed both Kart and Smash Bros.). I think a better reviewer may have given it a 90 rather than 88 (CVG post scores as being out of ten, but 8.8 is still a rating out of 100).
Still, can't wait, every installment has been a treat. What kind of moron starts the review with "the brothers Mario"? C&VG. Can you tell us then if the wheel, with practice, is the best control method? It works but it's still no competition for a GC pad. I can't believe the review was biased by the lack of offline multiplayer. Seriously, there are already a million titles for people who want to play in the same room with 3 other people. The online mode is exactly what the rest of us have been waiting for.
Odds are I'll play the offline when my brother visits - every 6 weeks or so. That's hardly a score-dropping issue. I just wish you actually raced in karts, not prams and cars and stuff like that - and I'm not sure about the inclusion of bikes :? Looks meh , just give the orginal a HD make over, that would make me happy. C&VG. Can you tell us if all the GP cups are available online ? In the review you only touched on GP as being an multi player option online. The Grand Prix can be raced as a team, you and friends clubbing together to ensure you all place higher than rival members And what about the people who love nothing more than a bit of 4-player split screen mazza kart?
I think its a perfectly good reason to give it a slightly lower score, mario kart has ALWAYS been the best split screen game on any console, to ruin it in anyway is a crime.
Still can't wait to get this game tho, kart is probably my fave of all the Ninty games. That sounds exactly like what I was expecting: a lazy, underdeveloped rushjob. That sounds exactly like what I was expecting: a lazy, underdeveloped rushjob. It isn't though. It's just lacking in a few features. Personnaly I think this will be an excellent game! I will buy it as soon as it is on the shelves! :D Pre-ordered mine last week. 8) Can't wait for this game! I was hoping for a better score though, 90% or more would have been great. The score isn't surprising considering how many controversial changes were made. I think Nintendo have abandonded their fanbase to make a game that won't be disappointing if you never had any of the previous Mario Karts. What difference does the review score actually make???? So what if it got 88 and not 90.... Reviews mean less and less these days. Why should one persons opinion mean that much to you? It's impossible to quantify games with scores... Sure it's good to know you're not buying a complete dud, but it doesn't take a genius to work out that a 1st party Mario Kart game will be great fun. I'll pick this up, and I bet it's great. I think the series needs a complete overhaul though, and I don't just mean add bikes... SSBB, Metroid, MK, Zelda have all run their course really. Nintendo really need to step up their game for the inevitable sequels we'll get on wii 2 ;-) The review is more about what's up with the game than the score, as he is playing it before us. That "magic" 12 people might make it dodgy though.
↑↑No chance of a Wii 2 but I get what you mean. Holy shit. I missed that in the review. C&VG why didnt you shout this. NO MULTI-PLAYER :x
I loved the n64 original. Me and my friends played this (and GoldenEye 64) for almost 2 years non-stop. racing, shouting, cussing. Fun! We were all looking forward to recreating that.
Of course online is a good addition, but why the f**K did they leave out a split-screen mode? Some games i want to play with REAL friends. What harm would it have done to include it?
i just pray this isnt a final release version. Stop your panicking... it's there, the reviewer simply didn't think it worked as well as the online multiplayer: I'll pass on it. It's more of the same, possibly even dumbed down further, and the online muliplayer alone isn't enough to warrant me purchasing it.
Also, according to Eurogamer, you can't race through whole GP championships in multiplayer and there's no free-for-all Battle Mode. Nails. In. The. Coffin. but you CAN play 2 player gp in split-screen, only you do it online with 10 more human players on the track.
i wonder if the writers at ngamer and eurogamer knew this when they wrote their reviews. in other words, nintendo probably felt there was no reason to put in an offline 2 player gp.
one could argue that they should've expanded the offline gp to support 4 players this time around, but to say they cut something? that's not entirely correct, is it? ok. so it does have a 4 person split-screen? it does, but not in gp mode, meaning you can only race one track at a time. That sucks... :( "Since this review was published, Nintendo has informed Eurogamer that it is possible to play sequences of four races with friends both offline and online. Offline, you can choose to select a race each time, randomise, or play in order - effectively allowing you to play through a regular GP if you select the usual first track. Online, racing with Friends, each player can select a track from those available on their save file. This clearly contradicts our observations of the review code and we apologise for the error. After discussion we feel the score below still fits the game."
source: http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_thread_posts.php?thread_id=110147&category_id=40 Great news indeed for the fans. Well followed up on Sewers. That's the kind of thing that can swing a purchase.
I remember playing 2 player co-op with my brother on the SNES original, best thing ever. HELL YEAH! »
That's how it's always been though.
Tbh, they seem to have nitpicked too much at this drop of performance on 4 player. Although I was VERY skeptical about bikes and tricks, i am still wholeheartedly looking forward to this game. Well, this is all as clear as mud to me. Can or can you not play GP in 2 player mode, split-screen, offline. Not 4 player, 2 player, just like all the other Kart games. And I mean proper GP, with points and trophies. the hop's back and manual speed boosts have been removed from slides : cool. if i'm hosting a game online can i set the rules : number of laps,players,power up distribution? can i ban bikes so it's just,y'know,karts? is the free race option from the gba available in single player? is koopa still shit-hot(i know there were faster characters but koopa was the one in snes multiplayer)? does the online mode work better WITH friends (like brawl's p2p) or do all games play the same regardless of locale and friend codes? the 'review' has left me with more questions than answers. oh well,see y'all online on ghost valley 2...maybe. well..some things for those interested: -multiplayer (local) gp is available in a form,basically 2/3/4 players play 4 maps in concession with players earning points,the most points gets the gold trophy..the maps can but do not have to belong to the same gp..so if u wanna play one gp just choose those 4 maps..pretty sweet imo.
-snaking is NOT in the game as we know it,but a very similar tactic can be used on many laps which,yes, will allow very skilled players to easaly defeat others..although it's only on 150cc where it's really noticable(the other speeds are sooo slow :( )
-there are 8 cups in total, 4 wii cups, 4 retro cups ( i hope u can imagine what the retro contains..)
-you can unlock new chars/cars by playing well on the wifi,there prolly is a way to unlock these locally,but no confirmation yet.
- I played through the whole 50cc last night and the new maps are for most part pretty sweet..although you do notice how the new maps are very wide..
-items..man,some of them totally can ruin the game..
-controls: the gamecube control seems to be the best imo,but you can't do tricks with it...(why not just let us press a button for it..). but overall the handling feels slighly sluggish..want more mk64 feel :(..
-slides: you have to choose manual to do slides.. basically the longer you hold the better boost.. the sharper the corner the quicker you get best boost. ie.. you can slide on straights (due to the fat tracks) but it will take longer to get boosts..but it's still quicker than driving straight (hence the new "snaking" )
ohwell..back to some more gaming :D I just got it in the post!
Gods bless you Mr Internet. Cheaper and a day early! It's days like these I'm grateful I 'work' from home!
I hope it's good. i picked this up at 7.20am this morning from my local supermarket and they hardly had any copies left. people had been arriving at 6am to buy this game. i wasn't expecting that!
not played it - some of us have to work :wink: that is why you read the review and make a judgement, your needs are different to an overall view of the game obviously. if you wont use a feature then ignore it and read the rest of the review, the score is just and overall indicator. I bought this today along with an extra wheel so I can play with my son, looking forwared to giving it a whirl later! Exactly , you can't give a game high marks because it doesn't acheive in an important area, just because there are other games that do it well - that's ridiculous?
"racing is terrible, but there are tons of other great racers, online is terrible, but there are tons of other great online games. Score 0, but because it is Nintendo - 10"
To be honest, what with Edge's 6/10 and a Nintendo mag stopping short of giving this a 9, it would seem that there are problems with all aspects of multiplayer, which is a crime when you consider that this is one of it's best aspects.
So online WITH AI is crap because AI carts are crap, and online WITHOUT AI is crap because the courses are so wide and it becomes boring.... so unless you have 12 racers all human controlled then it is crap online. and offline is crap and they've meddled with balloon battles.
And the Wiimote makes it worse than controlling with a 6 year old Gamecube controller.... ...
....so.... this would seem like Edge's 6/10 was accurate. I think Wipeout HD on the PS3 will blow crappy Mario and his gayboys out of the water.
PS3 Rulez :twisted: Had the game for a few days now and while I'll admit this is by no means an amazing game, it is in no way a 6/10. Okay, I will admit the first hour or so I thought it was just a port of the GC version with bikes, tricks, online and Wii-mote gimmick added on. To some extent it is but the game is still a quality experience and bags of fun with the right company. The main thing that bugs me is the Wii-mote control. It's not suited to the game as when you have those tight turns and potential fall point, the Wii-mote fails. Sadly you can't do tricks with the GC control so Nintendo are obviously trying to force you to use the Wii-mote with the wheel thing. Anyway, personally I'd give this an 8.5/10. Anything lower than a 7 is being way too harsh and anything over a 9 is being abit of a Nintendo fanboy. im looking to get this i started playing my wii again the other day after getting no more heroes, i thought it was only me who had noticed how the ai on mario kart used to cheat all the time the n64 ai was ridiculous! im actually shocked that this game is out so soon its like it just appeared out of nowhere! its a shame about the local multiplayer tho Kart Attack on ps3 will be faster, slicker, graphically superior (1080p), acoustically sounder and the control on the amazing Six Axis (SonyTM) will blow away the completion.
Face it Nintendo your baby games are old now! It'll blow away the Completion? um okay then. Anyway, just got it, played it for a bit in store. not sure about the wheel handling... see if i get used to it i suppose. Thank you w1gg1ns for pointing out my spelling mistake, but U no i Talk the tooth.
Even Edge gave it a 5
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stupid post, i would rather play mario kart wii than any of the games listed in your profile. hardly classics are they? Please Do Not Feed The Troll (Mothman). Feed the Troll Tupence a bag.
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The definition of fanboy may be relevant to you also. Do you know what that is Mr. Mothman? Look in the mirror. So whats a Fanboy then?
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Why Mr Mothman it could be Dr Mothman Mothman, were you educated by Gypsies?? LoL, yeh right. If you have time to waste on stupid fanboy posts, its more likely to be Jobseeker Mothman. GT5 a classic :shock: seriously, you need to play more games. GT1 was a classic, the rest a just copies with better graphics.
oh, and graphics dont make a game and seeing as though the ps3 isnt the best machine you can get at graphics i suggest you pipe down!!! »
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:lol: anyone elses pre order get cancelled due to lack of stock last week? it's put me off online retailers for good. you may pay more on the high street but at least you'll get it,play.com suck balls. My pre-order got cancelled because I lost my flippin receipt from Game! My fault though. This review is waaaay too harsh!!
This is a great game, online is awesome and smooth as silk, and for the people going on about GC controllers - Jeez, just use the damn wheel!! It takes half an hour to get used too and Im winning 12 player online races already!! Im no mario kart expert either, I've never really been a huge fan.
As for Edge marking it down for poor local multiplayer, well where was that logic when reviewing the pitifully short single player on Halo 3 and COD 4?
Seriously, I cant believe how good this is - I wasnt even gonna buy it till my mate convinced me today, but Im so glad he did. Best Mario Kart I've ever played easily. AS LONG AS YOU USE THE WHEEL!!!
Bloody luddites..... Meh, I’ll stick to the GameCube original thanks. Well, I find the wheel works suprisingly well. But each to their own. If anybody is struggling to find a copy on the high street try your local supermarket, i got my copy from morrisons and they said there was loads in stock!
See you all online :D Yeah I think that reviewers are being overly harsh as well. The only thing people seem to be negative about is the lack of deathmatch style battle mode. As far as I can see - that's the only thing that's slightly (and I mean slightly) worse then previous Mario Kart games. Everything else is MUCH better, MUCH smoother and MUCH more entertaining. The online system is just spot on, sure it's nintendoised but it works an absolute charm.
I love it - epic game! absolutely amazing!!!!! havent even touched the campaign part yet, been playing online against my mates and its awesome, we've got round the voicechat bit by opening up a lobby in halo3 on our 360's and all joining..... most fun ive had on a game for years, i expected it to be good but its exceeded my expectations by quite a bit. i cant believe how good they have made the online part also, props to nintendo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a bit harsh, it should get 9/10 at least. just a shame nintendo won't do voice-chat because of their nanny like approach to online gaming. having to open up a lobby in a different game on a 360/ps3 just to talk with friends while playing on a wii is just a hassle. come on nintendo i think most kids know about the evils of online grooming nowadays. are you people insane?!
mario kart wii is the biggest letdown since just cause and thats saying something. the framerate is poor the gameplay is tedious and is technically a step back since double dash. the bikes and steering wheel are just gimmicks to distract and make you buy the game. ive played every mario kart game to date and this is by far the worst. its the worst Ł35 ive ever spent. 3/10 keep up the good work nintendo i thought that about the steering wheel at first, now im used to it i love it, oh and btw, double dash is the worst version of kart ever..... 3 out of 10? Not as good as Double Dash?
MOVE AWAY FROM THE PLASTIC BAG FILLED WITH GLUE!
I think the game is amazing, I bought the Wii on the strength of this game and now have 360, PS3 and Wii and haven;t touched the others for two days. you see, a man with sense, you sound familiar actually.... :wink: Now you're talking
N64 the original Mario Kart :?: :? The game does have split-screen.
This is a very fair review. Especially the closing paragraph. I couldn't find those damn pesky "hidden" options either, but when I did it raised my opinion of the game a lot. It's still not the best Mario Kart, but it's damn good. At the end of the day, Mario Kart is Mario Kart, you're going to like it or you're not. i think the game iz gr8 :D :) :wink: The game thoroughly deserves the score it was given. It's not perfect, but it's near enough. End of story.
Oh, and I loved DD!! Not as good as Double Dash. There, I said it.
Apart from the bikes and the gimicky Wiimote steering, Mario Kart Wii brings nothing new to the table.
Where as Double Dash had plenty of brave, fresh ideas and game play, MKWii just feels like a next gen remake of an older version.
Some people may think this is a good idea, I simply disagree. A new game should feel like a new game. double dash was poor... very poor, disappointed me lots... Don't get me wrong, I like Mario Kart Wii, I think it is a very good game.
But I also think that the developers played it safe. They knew that DD wasn't everyones cup of tea so decided to make MKWii the same as the older 'classic' versions.
When Mario Sunshine didn't do very well, they could of made the next one, which later became Galaxy as we all know, like the older 'classic' mario platformers, but they didn't. They made a brave decision, and made Galaxy look and feel very different and it was a huge hit.
And this is exactly what they DIDN'T do with MKWii. I can agree with that, it is more a 'best of' than a new game, but I think that they concentrated mostly on the online mode.
Disagree about the remote steering which I think is really good if you give it a fair chance.
Its like Halo 3 in a way, it doesnt really add anything to the series at all but goes for a flawless online experience instead. hang on there's loads of new stuff. a load of new wii GP tracks, plus loads of old one's from double dash, MK DS, and retro snes tracks. there's bikes, new cars and characters to unlock. you've also now got half-pipes, and can perform mid air tricks for a little speed boost. 2 new items, and all the online stuff as well! this is MARIO KART ffs! mario kart is all about the side-by-side multiplayer and always has been. most games totally ignore one console multiplayer or tack it on at the end and now mario kart is the same?!?! very sad day.
also it seems that nintendo has just made the game a lot easier i mean come on, you just have to slide to get a boost, then you get another boost for shaking the pad when u go over a bump, then u get a boost on your bike etc etc. nintendo obviously going for the 'extremely casual gamer' here. not good for anyone on this website.
one last moan. nearly the whole review slags off the game but it still gets an 8.8!?! im guessing even the bits that the review says are the 'same old' mario kart means that its like double dash = too slow and too random. am i the only one who wants the fun and fast mario kart back? u know the type that actually rewards some skill rather rather relying on totally random and annoying blue shells?
phew!!! well this comment just about sums up what im saying about making the game way easier for a casual gamer. plus as far as the second paragraph is concerned - does no one actually remember the mario kart legacy or understand what the game is all about?? or is everyone here 12? the reviewer is a BLIND NUB, you can disable the AI carts if you like, just go to the rules menu, he should edit his article ASAP
Btw using the wii wheel is NOT an option if you want to play the best you can no matter how many hours you spend playing with it, wii remote + nunchuck on the other hand ... :D
low framerate on spliscreen is indeed an issue, please nintendo fix it :( The mario kart on nintendo 64 was a lot more fun to play then the newer versions. A very acurate rating. I have played it many times now but if you play on it for a to longer period it gets a bit boring this review is absolutely correct. The game is emence, and there are so many different tracks. multi player is entertaining. unfortunatly after a while it gets slightly boring on multi player but online you could play forever. |