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Resistance 2

Review: Surprisingly unsurprising...
Putting set-pieces in your game that allow you to shoot sky-scraper-sized monsters in the mouth with rocket launchers is always going to get people's attention. It got ours. But that alone isn't enough to stand up to the giants of the FPS genre.

Right from the off it's blatantly obvious that every part of R2 has been given an extra lick of polish over the launch-day original. The intro scene and subsequent movie sequences are more compelling, they also tell a better story than before. The main character, Nathan Hale, has more story to tell too.

The levels are bigger now, with more detail stretching into the distance, more vibrant colours and some nice lighting effects. The very first few seconds of the game see you taking on one of the most enormous robots we've ever seen. It's a spectacular opening, especially compared to the original's.

There have been some fundamental gameplay changes, too. The first game's admittedly cool health system, which featured a partitioned health bar that only recharged up to the nearest quarter, is gone, with Insomniac opting for the more widely-used, full-recharge health.

It's the same as in all the other FPS games; the screen goes a deeper shade of red as you take damage, hide for a few seconds and you're feeling better.

Hale's also lost the magical ability to carry every weapon he finds, now only able to carry two - again like all the other big shooters. Most of the old weapon makes a return, and some new guns turn up to add that extra kick.

Check out our in-game footage here.

There are wacky new shooters and a new semi-automatic sniper rifle that shoots three rounds at a time, but we absolutely love the Magnum.

It's a stupidly powerful single-shot pistol that can take down standard Chimera in a single shot. But the best part is that every bullet doubles up as a little explosive. Hitting the secondary fire button triggers all the bullets to explode, causing, yes, massive damage.

But the biggest change is the game's setting. Gone is ye olde England in favour of the good old US of A. Hale now blasts through iconic cities such as San Francisco or Chicago instead of Hull and Grimsby (no offence). And Insomniac has, in places, taken advantage of its new bigger settings. There are some scenes of utter chaos where Chimera fill the sky.

And while these elements have raised the bar for the series, it hasn't risen enough. Today's heavyweight shooters are based around weapons that form a tight and well-balanced system of pros and cons. That, along with good, solid AI, is the make up of a shooter that's as much about strategy and immersion as it is squeezing the life out of triggers.

The Chimera don't behave at all like believable beings. They're like mindless drones, occasionally taking cover, but mostly just running at you all guns blazing, with a complete disregard for the inevitable shower of bullets that'll greet them.

There's no feeling that they're working as a unit to destroy you. They don't retreat when outgunned, flank or close in when you're pinned down or any of the other things that make the Covenant or the Locust a more formidable foe.

That's not to say you can Rambo your way through the game. You'll occasionally find yourself facing overwhelming odds and the sheer volume of plasma balls fired your way force you to take cover behind a rock.

But Resistance 2's level design doesn't help. Where's the strategy in being made to fend off a dozen hovering, laser-equipped robots in an open, empty corridor with no cover? Or in having Chimera appear to shoot at you when you're crossing a full-exposed, elevated walkway with nowhere to hide.

All too often you'll find yourself in these utterly non-strategic face-to-face shoot-offs. You get shot at, you turn to face the enemies, and you shoot in their direction until they die. You win because you have more health, not because you're particularly skilled. It's a bit 1998.

The story, though better, is patchy and the sudden ending doesn't tie up the loose ends (Resistance 3, anyone?). And even though Hale now speaks, we still feel no real connection to him.

Based on the single player mode, we would have given the game a straight seven out of ten. But it's thanks to some great multiplayer modes that the score pulls up to the eights.

R2 has a brilliant co-op mode that lets you and seven others take on an entirely separate campaign from the single-player mode. You play as the Spectres in objective-based missions that run parallel to the main campaign.

Different players have different abilities; like the power to heal or protect your team mates with shields and, because the levels were designed to be played in co-op, it all flows better than a single-player game with another player added.

Dive into the huge multiplayer mode and you'll find the usual selection of deathmatch and CTF modes, in arenas based on setting in the US cities of the main campaign.

The stand-out mode is Skirmish, which splits the insanely large group of up to 60 players into smaller teams of five, each with a different objective. For every team with an attacking objective, there'll be another with the goal to stop them.

It's a great way to get that many people on a map to maintain law and order. Cynics might say it's simply six lots of ten-player games, as you don't get involved in other skirmishes.

While Resistance 2 is a good game it never really dishes up any real 'OMG' moments and pulls up short of offering the same thrills that recent shooters have.

The bar has been raised. Call of Duty 4 does epic war unlike anything else. Gears of War gives does strategic gameplay, and with visuals so immense it sucks you right into its world - even without that first-person view.

Resistance 2 packs some pretty spectacular scenes, but for the most part is pretty average. As we've said its efforts in multiplayer earn it that extra point, but if you've played any of the aforementioned modes, there's nothing here that will surprise you. Not groundbreaking then, but solid and well worth a look.

Check out our in-game footage here.

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// Overview
Verdict
Resistance 2's single-player is a patchy mix of some rather spectacular set pieces with otherwise underwhelming, run-of-the-mill shooting action that just doesn't rise to the standards set by today's best shooters. But it has to be commended for its massive multiplayer games and efforts in co-op.
Uppers
  Better than the original
  Eight-player co-op rocks
  Huge 60-player skirmishes
Downers
  Single-player is a bit by the numbers
  Chimera aren't scary enough
  A patchy storyline
  Doesn't live up to standards set by 'others'
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Posted by Crow555
Oh dear, ONLY an 8.0?!?

*cancels imaginary preorder*

How do you like them apples suivaloom? :P
Posted by headspin
8.0/10?!!!!

cue the "cvg are just 360 fanboys and hate sony" comments..... will play it myself to pass judgement myself on it....
Posted by blagger
I've played this, it's a good game and certainly better than the boring original.
I think this review is spot on though, it's no gears of war 2 beater(8 score is about right).
Posted by altitude2k
Crimbo will love this too (if that is indeed a different person).

I mean, if games like GoW2 that get 9.3/10 are bad, then this must diabolical by their standards.
Posted by Dajmin
I'm looking for a good multiplayer shooter for the PS3 (now that I have one) and was hoping that this would be it.

The reviews are pretty mixed, but it's Metacritic is still pretty high. I'll give it a shot if there's a demo. Otherwise it's down to KZ2 to grab me.
I'd take BFBC if I thought anyone was still playing it.
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
"Ah MAn its an MS consipiracy they paid them off to give it a bad review. Its just not true. You can't trust reviews man yadda yadda yadda.

PS3 Forever RROD RROD RROD.

- man i've seen the future of this thread.
who knew i was psychic.
Posted by _Marty_
Hah, I look forward to his inevitable response. Schools out in an hour or so, so he'll no doubt pop up then.

I'm surprised at this review though - most stuff I've seen painted this far better than that. In fact, wasn't it on Playr this weekend? I seem to recall it being talked of really highly.
Posted by microhenry
When I bought my ps3 I picked up Resistance for £5, I still feel ripped off to this day. The graphics were bland, gameplay poor, multiplayer boring and the enemies had 100% accuracy which killed what little "fun" the game may have had. Now a year on Resistance 2 is coming out and guess what? IT'S THE SAME PILE OF CR*P THAT THE FIRST ONE WAS.

Y'know, I play Perfect Dark on my n64 far more than Resistance. The former has an engaging storyline, good weapons, awesome single player, many advanced features that some games don't have now, and just about everything except for online multiplayer. Resistance has online. That's it. It's just so damn average. If it wasn't made by Insomaniac everyone would say it was horrific.

There has to be someone who agrees with me on CVG!
Posted by fanboy
I've been wanting to cancel my pre order for this for weeks, but I cant remember who I pre ordered it from!

Its a shame they got rid of the health bar - that was good in the last game.

I played the Beta and i think it feels a bit dated as far as online shooters go (apart from the co op), but i actually liked the single player in the last game so if it does arrive I wont mind.
Posted by fanboy
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They slated it on Game central on Teletext aswell. They still gave it a seven, but they said they would only give the single player (If reviewed alone) a five.

They are always harsh, but they really didnt seem to like it.
Posted by Crow555
Maybe it was Chrimbo, I lose track.

*looks*

Ah, it was chris_ace.





Suivaloom even popped his head in the door...



If 9.3 is an epic fail, then 8.0 is pushing new boundaries in the advances of failure.
:roll:
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
in my eyes 8 out of 10's still a bloody good score. Probably didn't help that gears 2 came out a month before it though.
Posted by orochiguyver
I played R2 a month or so back and I thought it was excellent. A worthy addition to a PS3 FPS collection. Killzone 2 IS the SHIZNIT tho... roll on March 09!
Posted by Mark240473
It's all opinion, isn't it? I didn't think Gears 2 was worth the 9.3, but then that's just me.

I don't agree with the high reviews of R2, such as IGN's 9.5, but I reckon that I've had some serious enjoyment out of the game. I'd probably give R2 High 80's-90%. Which funnily enough seems to be the average on Metacritic.

Most games have been over-rated recently, yet this seems like a fair review of a good shooter. And at least CVG scored it higher than the mental EDGE. A bad game it is not.

Stop basing your purchasing decisions on reviews and try for yourself. There is no better opinion than your own!
Posted by Chandler824
I never really expected much from Sony's Halo homage. Will i get it, probably, but only because I have a copy of TR:U someone gifted me, and i certainly won't be buying it for single player.
Posted by _Marty_
:shock:
Teletext is STILL going? Wow...
Posted by _Marty_
While I agree with this sentiment Mark, unless they release a demo for every game, this just isn't possible. Do you really wanna have to shell out 40 quid for a game just to try it, only to find out it's gash and then PRAY the retail outlet will refund you? Sounds like playing with fire to me...

Demos for all games gets my vote though.
Posted by svd_grasshopper
first one was tripe. never understood its popularity. probably just cause it was one of few games out at the time.

eurogamer gave R2 a 9/10. surely not worth that. anything with aliens in it or futuristic weaponary, for me is a miss. guff.
Posted by jayson_90210
I play it now and again, still fairly busy whenever I've been on but dunno how long that will last now CoD is out. BFBC is still a bit laggy as well even though they allegedly patched that. Makes it too hard to snipe
Posted by Mark240473
Just rent a game, if you're not sure. It's cheap enough and you get plenty of time to decide whether you would pay full price for it or not.

Also, I must say that the review as a whole was rather negative. And to keep mentioning Gears 2, which is a different genre, is something that the mental Fanboys do on these threads. Obviously a die-hard Gears fan (or 360 fan) is not going to like R2! It's the law! :lol:

Blimey, if I got payed to review games, I would at least make the effort to write a more balanced review! Terrible show, C&VG. Let's write 90% of the paragraphs about what you hate and then 10% about what you like. Great stuff.

Oh, and giving 10% for a brilliant multiplayer mode, when some games (*cough* L4d *cough*) only actually have a brilliant online mode is mental. Yes. Mental.

I feel better now. Thanks. Carry on.
Posted by fanboy
Its Digi text now so no skitting!
ITV page 805 - Give it a go, its defo worth it!

Seriously i would rate the guys that write that 'blog' better than Edge, they never seem to overate a game and are not afraid to pick the top, top games apart if they dont like them.

I remember when Heavenly Sword came out for PS3 and many mags said it was the first great exclusive for Ps3. Gamecentral gave it a 4! They are really harsh but they do make good points.

Its not as good as digitiser used to be, but its still good.
Posted by cykosis
Well I'm playing it at mo and so far it exceeds Resistance 2. Graphics are sweet and the ability to run is an added bonus. Surround sound is amazing. Shooting the water is one of the silly geeky things to do and some nice effects there. It's gonna be one of those games I reckon that will do well cos of word of mouth and the advantage of playing with mates co-op. My hearts racing as I'm playing the game so far and only one hour in. Beats COD5 which I thought was just run, duck, shoot, run, duck shoot at one pace, ie. fast and cheap like a McDonald's meal. Well I have a happy grin on my face :) That's good enough for me.
Posted by milky_joe
It's actually to be expected that when you have a ridiculous amount of games in one genre on the market, the scores for all of them will suffer as a result.

FPS appears to be the top genre at the moment, but that will change, and it will only change sooner if more keep coming out...
Posted by hrahukka
it's just a fact, the multiplayer is alone worth of a 9. and i do enjoy single player aswell, although the script may be bit simple; but it is filled with "that's so cool" moments. you have to consider that farcry 2 received a 9 when it's way more boring than this game. the only source that really nailed review for this one was ign! and i didn't enjoy the 1st one at all..
Posted by altitude2k
The scores won't suffer, as such. Devs will just find it harder to make a game that distinguishes itself above other FPS's if there are more of them around.
Posted by Conkers
Far Cry 2 got high scores as it was a different take on the genre, having it more of an open world experience akin to the sandbox experiences you’d have with GTA et al. It doesn’t quite reach those heady heights, but it is still a lot more open than games like this and COD.

Personally this sounds like quite a fair review of it, if you’re of the opinion that only good reviews of a game suit your take on it, then you’ve already made up your mind on it so other peoples opinions are irrelevant. In which case you’ll probably enjoy the game so why worry about it!
Posted by svd_grasshopper
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digitiser. haha classic. "with insincere dave"
Posted by Mark240473
Good point. R2 is certainly better than FarCry 2. I should know. A 10 minute car journey to kill the same men in another jeep, from another guardhouse, before getting to another mission and dying, again. Great. Will be getting traded in very soon! Good engine - crap game.

Mind you, if Insomniac had put some burning grass in R2, maybe C&VG would have given them a 9/10 too.
Posted by fanboy
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Yeah that was ace!

They have this well good character now called Nigel Humdrum that they use to review really poor film tie ins. Hes like this stupidly optimistic character and he gave Legendary on the 360 12/10. Its stupid, but it is funny. :lol:
Posted by Psycho Squirrel
For god sake man reviewers bash certain games for 1 thing but dont notice these probs in others.
Now I have no problem with someone loving halo or gears and giving it a high score but i expect there to be a set standard where other games have similar problems and treated equally (as mush or as little bashing).

Personally i thought the 1st game was OK, not a half life but very playable (it still has sum of my favourite weapons in games). Now with this one said to b better thts gud enough for me.

+for this guy to even think of comparing this with gears makes me wonder how he even has this job, next we might see pro evo being compared with madden..............
Posted by chris_ace
8 out of 10= EPIC FAIL.

RIP Insomniac and Sony! :lol:

guess ill just stick to using the ps3 as a blu ray player for now and get Red Alert 3 on PC since 360's big releases fable 2 and gears 2 have been a crushing disappointment to me to, as for nutz and bolts LOL!

Mehsistance 2 :lol:
Posted by fanboy
You know thats one of my big pet hates that is. Reviewing a game well just because it does something 'differently'.

Just because its different doesnt mean its good. After playing Far Cry 2 for a good long while it became apparent to me that an open world environment just doesnt work for an fps as it distances you from the plot of the story and makes the characters seem sterile.

Couple that to what is an entirely empty world, and some very last gen gameplay (enemies take for ever to kill, headshots dont work, driving for miles for no real reason, enemies instantly re spawn if you just drive a little bit down the road, enemy jeeps constantly appear as if rom nowhere to attack you, if you lose your car you have to walk for bloody ages to find another etc.) and you have a very average game that was given really high scores because 'at least they tried'.

Yet a game that is doing its job to a competant standard gets a lower score. I dont get it.
Posted by headspin
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it got a 9.5 on playrtv...
Posted by Dajmin
I can't believe how snobby some people are here.

If someone gave me an 80% chance of surviving something, I'd take that as damn good odds. When did 4/5 suddenly start meaning 'crap'?
It might not be "as good as" something else, but on it's own that is not a bad rating.

Too many reviewers give away 90+ scores on everything (G4TV give 100 to almost everything). If my band's music was rated 8/10 I'd be pretty damn happy.

You complain when a score is low, you complain when a score is too high, you complain that an issue isn't actually an issue. Is there no satisfying you ravenous dogs? :)
Posted by Psycho Squirrel
what do you expect with the level of mathematics in schools being so low?
Posted by Conkers
@Fanboy

True, I never said it was good though! One thing good about it is the map editor, some of the creations are astounding, the Venetian level is one in particular…

As for Playr, they give far too high marks for most things.
Posted by _Marty_
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That's what I though, but I wasn't 100% so didn't want to put it in case I was wrong. Cheers.
Posted by Mark240473
The problem here is that the review (wording) does not equate to an 8/10. Maybe a 5/10. It sounded like he hated the game, so why give it a respectable 8/10? Dodgy.
Posted by voodoo341
Don't you be trying to come across as semi intelligent now man! You and Suivloom are cut from the same cloth. You were calling PS3 owners retards the other day.
Posted by hrahukka
yeah different take that i found pretty damn boring in the end. it just didn't make any sense why you have to cruise tens of minutes with your jeep and kill the same watchmen all the time. man i think i travelled more than shot in that game. ( and in the end, it wasn't that different).

now after playing resistance 2 i remember why fps' can be so much fun.. i'll stand behind my 9/10 till the end with this matter.
and btw, no i don't care about how good scores games receive, i'm just pointing out that it doesn't make any sense that this one received 8 when fc2 got 9.. :)
Posted by _Marty_
:?: Explain.
Posted by Crow555
LOL

Well fair play to you for having a sense of humour about it! :lol:

Like I said in the Gears 2 review thread, reviews scores should be read into too much. It's better to read about it and if say in the case of Resistence 2, you had looked at it as a multiplayer mostly title, then it's gonna be a must buy for you.

I don't always agree with reviews but I do read them to give me someone's perspective on a game I've not played yet.
Posted by voodoo341
I've been playing the beta for Resistance 2 for a month now and loved almost every minute off it. More than even the Killzone 2 beta. An 8 player co op team working as a unit is brilliant fun. The intense deathmatch games are worth the payment alone. Everyones not going to share the same opinion and thats fair enough. I didn't like Farcry 2, in fact it baffles me how it scored so highly. Yet plenty of people enjoy it. Best of luck to them.
Posted by Conkers
From what I’ve seen ratings for it never compared to the old gamer.tv they made, and ratings are everything, you aint got them, you aint got jack.
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
No your goodself and sulivaloom are cut from the same cloth.

If you make a valid point, i back you up. if i don't agree with you, i say so. But badgering every post a guy makes regardless. is pathetic.

Are you still angrey about my 2.4 children remark. Seriously, get a life.

I think everybody is fair game for humour, because thats what most people want to be. Part of the fun, not singled out and wrapped in cotton wool because they're different.


You can take the piss out of me if you want, but always be ready for a retort. If you can't handle it. **** OFF
Posted by crimbo
what crazy ****** wrote this review he does not know what he is talking about
Posted by StonecoldMC
Come on guys, settle down.

8 is still a good score, right?
Posted by pishers
8/10 isn't a bad score, it seems like the reviewer took exception to it not moving the genre on much but really only the half life series has done that with COD being highly polished. at least this doesnt have the flood in it, god i hate them!
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
Finally I think Its pretty safe to say that everybody on the forums was looking forward to crimbos latest words of wisdom.
Posted by pishers
WHERESMYMONKEY and voodoo341

why don't you 2 agree to disagree and save us all having to share in your mindless slagging match?
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
I'm more than happy to if he is.
Posted by Mark240473
In fact, I think the two of you should have a fight on Harry Hills TV Burp. WHERESMYMONKEY can dress as a giant 360, and Voodoo341 can dress as a giant PS3. Then we'll see who wins this fanboy battle!

FIGHT!
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
Just name the time, and place. Just hope i don't over heat and collapse in the costume.

Would be fitting though.
Posted by pishers
ha ha!

monkey could jump up and down making lots of noise and sprouting hot air before falling over with the red face of death.

voodoo could look down his nose at the cheap lower class monkey, sneering and throwing lots of bluray drives.
Posted by voodoo341
So much for the retort from the wind up merchant.
Posted by voodoo341
or we could just have a spelling contest!
Posted by Suivatam109PS3
You'd overheat in the costume and pass out, but still win by default after the failure of the PS3 costume to arrive on time through some unexpected delays... its seems the PS3 costume is just too complicated to work on and as such won't appear until several months have passed, when it does appear the edges will be all jagged and the wearer will, for some unknown reason, move slower and in a more jerky fashion that the 360 costume.
Posted by vulcanraven01
Have to say I was expecting as much...
The original was really average and only made the headlines due to being one of the only decent launch games on PS3. It's only natural the sequel would follow suite...
I had this down as *maybe* depending on the single player, but from the looks of things all the effort went into the multiplayer, and that looks a mess.
Oh well, at least you have a decent selection of multiformat FPS to choose from...
Posted by muzzer77
Your all forgetting, all these web sites are the same ones who gave Halo 3 10/10. Halo 3 = Last Gen graphics, poor storyline, very short, multiplayer for spanners who like to run and gun. You cant trust anyone as it is still one persons opinion and they are no more qualified than you and me as we like games for our own personal reasons. Gears 2, good game but bloody hell can be boring as anything on single player, has a story,not the best but it has one, graphics are good but lack any variation, in fact the game is far to similar to the first and should be a 9 max as it lacks any new ideas. I have a 360 so am no fanboy just realistic, sometimes reviewers like what they like.
Posted by msxmre
that's very true but whoever has the 360 costume could end up with a sore ring, or at the very least a red sweaty ring lol
Posted by muzzer77
So your jugging without playing. Good one. Oh by the way the 8 player co-op is excellent and works very well, so in answer, no the multiplayer is not a mess and frankly the whole package is better then Halo 3, yes i have it, played it , completed it and sat there wondering whether i had played the same game the reviewers had. Difference = Hype, Halo 3's hype hid the crap.
Posted by voodoo341
Ah but your ring would turn red in the 360 suit and you would have to go off for tests, examinations, exploratory surgery.
Posted by JazzJ
I think the reason that people are regarding this as a bad score is because there was quite a bit of PS3 fanboy hype around it.

8 is by no means a bad score and I defo think that a lot of games have been overrated recently, including Gears(although some parts were spectacular) and it's good to see that the Playstation 3 is finally seeing the release of some decent games.

People are just slightly dissapointed because this game hasn't taken the gaming world by storm that the likes of Suivaloom had us believe on his "massive" list of exclusives.

There's still not enough for me to add a PS3 to my collection yet, but all in all R2 seems like a good addition to the games library.
Posted by wiikii007
Yh, I do.
Posted by wiikii007
Fanboys are so sad.
Posted by vulcanraven01
I don't rent games so demo's are my only way to sample games. If there's no demo then I have to base my judgements on reviews. It's better than laying down £40 on a game that turns out to be crap.
Like I stated in my previous post, I was only interested in the single player. I don't really play online much with PS3 games and co-op is rather pointless without manditory headsets and you might as well be playing with AI.
As for Halo 3, while alot of people like to bash it, it's still one of the best FPS games on any console to date. Obviously everyone has different tastes and so on, but hype is temporary. If Halo 3 was all hype then it wouldn't still be one of the top played 360 games.
Posted by Legend74
I know it's been touched on, but as a subscriber to EDGE I am still apalled by the 6/10 it gave for this game. This is totally ridiculous, there is clearly a hidden agenda against the PS3. They always go overboard on some crappy Mario game on the Wii that no one over the age of five would play. It makes me wanna puke. If it wasn't for interesting industry news and some of the blogs I'd march up to their offices and make them suck my balls
Posted by greatno
Ah well, console exclusives are balanced once again, Banjo > Resistance, LBP > Gears
Posted by Suivaloon
Personally this is the highest score any game should get if it puts too much emphasis on the multiplayer at the expense of the single player campaign.
Posted by Paradaz - UK
Bollocks, there are many multiplayer-only games with a 'single player training mode' disguised as a campaign that are quality titles.

TF, BF2 etc Very few games have AI that is barely believable..multiplayer all the way - there is nothing more random than a human.
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
my replacement would arrive in a couple of weeks ready to have another go and entertain the crowd. In the mean time the PS3 would sit there gathering dust. Giving everyone assuranses that he was just about to show them some amazing trick. Sadly it never happened.
Posted by _Marty_
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That sucks. I preferred Gamer TV, but I had just gotten used to the dulcit tones of Rufus and Playr. It's not a bad show, by any stretch.

Would probably get better ratings if they showed it at 6/6.30pm on a weeknight (when Gamesmaster used to be aired) than at 11am on a Sunday morning. Every week I find it a struggle to be up in time :)
Posted by Mark240473
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I'm impressed with your amazing trick of consistantly sounding completely mental. Kudos.
Posted by WHERESMYMONKEY
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It's a rare discipline known only to few. Mad Crazy woob woob woob woob.

sorry i was just chasing a squirrel.
Posted by anagi
ok, my opinions that are coming are not based on this review, but reviews in general.

I cannot believe the amount of controversy that surrounds game reviews. Mark was right in saying that people need to judge a game on thier own and not to listen to reviews. I no longer worry about review scores because there IS so much Bu77shit going on with review sites its unreal, whether its because they are funded/owned/offered incetives by sony/Msft/Nint therefore give lower/higher scores I have no idea, but there is certainly alot of cr@p floating around in the sea of gaming sites. That said, all these reviews that so many people swear by is just one persons opinion right? so if that one person REALLY does hate a particular console, then he will quite easily knock a point off - not go crazy and rate it 2/10, but a subtle 1 point wont make him look dodgy but will affect so many people that base thier lives on these reviews.

Seriously people, read a review to find out info on a game, but don't listen to their opinions without trying a game ourself. Based on this review, I reckon this reviewer was playing a different R2 than me, but like I said, its just opinion.
Posted by shellster2
Edge have no axe to grind and definitely don't have an agenda against PS3. So you don't agree with their review score, big deal. If you like the game then just enjoy it for what it is.

I think the general problem with the first party Sony games, with the exception of LBP is that they are hyped to f^ck and when they are released they range from poor (Lair) to good (R2), not quite as stellar as the hype would suggest. for me it all harks back to the rhetoric Sony were spouting about how the PS3 is going to do this and that and crush anything else on the planet....etc but the fact remains it has not and that feels disappointing because if it did do all the things they said it would I'd have one under my TV right now.
Posted by kricca
Better than the original? I'm sold - I liked the original.

However, Haze was rated better than R1 and was complete dump.
Posted by cartyavfc
before anyone calls me a 360 fanboy i have a ps3 but am seriously thinking about getting rid of it while is still worth something!!!

The exclusives are rubbish and that includes mgs4 it was shite i might of well just bought a good film for £10

its very sad for sony but as a hardcore gamer microsoft pisses on sony all day long!
Posted by canis77
I've only been playing the single player mode but so far I think I prefer the original. Those elements that have changed (the health system, the masses of weapons you can carry, the pale washed out colours and the narration to tell the story) were some of the factors which made Resistance 1 different from most of the other FPS' out there. It feels like yet another good (but not brilliant) shooter rather than a game with a distinct character. I really hate those "one hit kills" chameleon *******s too.
Posted by Reace
The reviewe is pretty dead on. When there are other great action games out there, it is inevitable that games will be compared to it. This is because those games "set the bar". Gears of War set the bar for shotters this gen. Gears 2 bumped the bar up a nothch. All other games that follow will be judged against Gears and Gears 2. Hears hoping Killzone lives up to the hype.
Posted by plain_kloz_cop
Review doesn't mention that vehicles are no longer in the game, which I felt was a major omission.
Another thing that grated the nerves - one hit kill monsters. I lost count of the number of times that the enemy just struck me once and killed me. A truely cheap ass move ultimately giving a faux-challenge experience. Maybe they felt things were too easy the last time around?
It's a pain in the ass controlling your shot direction, having played so many PC games, and the 'kinda works' lock-on does help but when it came to controls I found running far worse. You have to be moving before you can run and even then you can't strafe and run, the consequence of which is that I'm forced to run from the enemy and hide rather then face him straight. This is GTA 4 all over again. The very least any game should do is make sure that you reinvent the genre, not the poxy basics of good gameplay.
There's also the problem of your in-game partners. They are useless. Either make them useful or don't put them in.
The original's single player mode might not be as razz ma tazz but that experience was a sheer pleasure by comparisson.
Posted by johnjo88
Was thinking the same thing about EDGE and there revies of PS3 games (as in there giving them particularly bad/hard ones) then read there LBP review, Its a glowing endorsement of the game and got 100!! But still cant wait to get playing R2.
Posted by Megadroid
Surprised at all the negative comments. I for one couldn't put this game down over the weekend. I wasn't even expecting much - the first Resistance was good but if it hadn't been a launch title I probably wouldn't have bothered. So I took a chance on Resistance 2, and I think it's the business.

The pacing of the campaign is brilliant, always keeps you pushing forward to get to the next huge battle or amazing setpiece. It was one of those games where I kept saying "Ok, quitting at the next checkpoint" ... "Ok then, the next one"... "Ok, ok, next one for sure"... it was hard to put it down. I'm thoroughly enjoying the campaign so far, and some of the boss encounters have been simply amazing.

Gave the multiplayer a bash over the weekend as well, and found it to be just as fun. The co-op is challenging and I like the mix of classes relying on each other... and as for 60 player online, holy crap. It's so hectic and fun... and I'm not normally big on multiplayer at all.

So yeah, I think R2 is great. In my opinion it's miles better than the latest Call of Duty anyway, which is quite high praise.
Posted by fanboy
Definatley agree with Megadroid. Its a really good suprise so far for me. I actually would've canceled my pre order a while back if I could have remembered who I had it with at the time, but Im really glad I didnt.

Its even pretty long. I really thought I was right at the end earlier today but it now seems like there is a bit further to go so thats good too.

The thing that has impressed me is that its really well polished and really feels like a top new generation game.

Personally I would have given it a 9. (So far anyway)
Posted by shimrod
Scores.....

Both the wording of the review and my own experience playing it warrant it a 7, not an 8 really. Good review: just a strange number at the top of it.

R2 is in one sentence: enjoyable but forgettable.

Trouble with scoring these days (I'm a reviewer too) is that the level of game-ingenuity keeps going up. Far Cry 2 was innovative (although it seems fashionable to slate it) , Gears 2 very epic, Halo 3 great on multiplayer, we've got Left4Dead out, we've had GTAIV, Fallout 3 will keep you occupied for a while....

The distance with the mediocre has become bigger.

However, you don't see this bigger quality distance in the review scores. If anything, they have even gotten closer together. Part of the reason is the horrible Metacritic and other such systems.

At the time of writing Resistance 2 gets a 86% on Metacritic; that's close to a 9, an absolutely ridiculously high number for this enjoyable but forgettable snack of a game.

Those 'overall/on average' scores are structurally too high. They include too many reviews from too small (internet) magazines that aren't able to distuingish the mediocre from the great in their scores.

And you know what: can't even blame them. Scoring is tough.

The distinction is hard to make if you love playing games: your joy in the interaction makes it hard to be all too critical. Only very few magazines and journalist have this balance between joy and criticism down (try Edge).

To put it in perspective: I'm not even sure I am one of them.

Most journos on these pages have the wording nailed down perfectly. However, the scores often don't really reflect the wording that well. Even though it's not as bad as the Metacritic stuff, I think also CVG put down very, very high numbers. Not for the GTA4's of this world mind you, but for stuff such as Resistance 2.

Scoring is a bit of an art. Lately, the difference between mediocre and great is not well reflected in the scores I see from most magazines. Including the CVG ones, however good the reviews.

Some games are leaping far away from the competition. It's only fair to better reflect this in the scores.


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Posted by fanboy
Yeah I think thats just your opinion mate.

R2 isnt the best game Ive ever played, but if Halo 3 can get top marks for its multiplayer, then why cant R2? The Co op is simply stunning in my opinion and trumps pretty much anything any other game has to offer. The whole online part of the game is as good as anything I reckon.

The single players pretty good too. I wouldnt call it a 'snack' of a game at all seeing as it has a single player game that is longer than Gears of War, Halo, most of the COD and Half Life games AND Bioshock. I dont quite understand the reasoning behind that whole argument.

I wasnt really a huge fan of the first Resistance, but it seems there are quite a few people that wont give this game the credit it deserves because the franchise had a reputation for delivering a game of average quality. I think the score here is pretty much spot on.

And about Far Cry 2, stealing a couple of elements from other genres does not in my estimation constitute 'innovation'. Having a freeform world in an fps is slightly different, but it is not innovation. I dont even think it works as it distances you from the characters and the story, and because the world is so empty it doesnt even feel remotley real.

Playing Far Cry 2 you are constantly reminded that you are playing a game. Random battles, constantly re spawning enemies and a cast of totally souless characters seem like a backward step to me, rather than something revolutionary.

And finally, this isnt really meant as an insult, but I think many people (myself included) have gone off magazines like Edge and reviewers like yourself because of the pretension that seems to drip out of every pore of the writing. It annoys me that I have to read the opinion of someone that appears to be talking to me as if I was a child.

You people are just Games Reviewers, nothing more. The reason you are games reviewers is because you are skillful writers and have an interest in gaming (hopefully). You dont know anymore about games than most of the people that read the mags do. Sometimess I think games journalists should realise that and not present what is essentially their opinion, as fact.
Posted by dickieshort81
Once again CandVG sprouting verbal diahrreoah (excuse spelling as @ work) I bought the game Friday and haven't been able tp put it down, a triumph for Sony fans as online it easily beats the kid friendly Halo3!

I would easily give this game a 9 for the co-op alone, PS3 haters beware as 09 looms ever closer with Killzone2 and GOW3 upon us the future could not be more rosey..

Talking of rosey CandVG should take off there tinted colour specs and reward a game like Resistance2 with the respectful score it deserves :roll:
Posted by fanboy
Spot on.

Over the past couple of months Ive bought some cracking games. Littlebigplanet, COD WAW, Fable 2, Gears of War 2 - but Resistance 2 is the only game I have just played non stop since I bought it. Its just brilliant.

Im no Sony fan or anything, but I fail to see how this game is worse than Halo 3. Its exactly what an fps should be - massive battles, awe inspiring environments, fantastic weapons, great enemies, amazing bosses, brilliant online play.

I really couldnt be more enthusiastic about it!

I just completed it earlier aswell, and the ending just makes you want more. Hopefully we wont have to wait too long for that.
Posted by dickieshort81
FAir play FANBOY its refreshing to hear an unbiased view on the 360 dominated views of CandVG, I finish work at 10pm every night and guess what I go home switch on my PS3 and out of 5 games to choose from I always pick R2!! THe game is so heavy, its a sleeping giant that needs kudos!
Posted by Jules2007UK
My opinion would be an 8 or perhaps a generous 9. I find some of the reviewers comments quite strange. Why would the A.I. act like humans?? They are chimera. So when on COD5 you get Kamakaze troops run at you thats brilliant. But if chimera do it on Resistance2 then it makes it crap. In addition some games are reviewed without any consideration for the multiplayer, so how can the scores be compared between games?? Im sorry but there is just no consistency with reviews it seems. My take - better than the 1st game, great weapons, multiplayer is awesome, co-op yet to try, grahpics are about average, controls slightly different to usual first person controls.

As a few people have said, why is he basing the opinion on what other games have done (gears2), the review should be based on how good/bad THIS game is. I own farcry2 and im sorry but the single player is not as good as Resistance 2's. The map editor and multiplayer are its saving grace.
Posted by fanboy
Yeah, I dont get how reviewers will justify giving a Halo or a COD 10/10 and basing the majority of the score on the multiplayer, but then just ignore it for this.

You've REALLY got to get into the co op mode mate. Once you've had a few games and you know what you are doing it is quite simply the best online shooter experience out there. It really encourages you to work as a team and reviewers should be making a much bigger deal of it in my view.
Posted by Jules2007UK
Cool, i will have to try it then :D. I used to like playing Ghost Recon AW2 co-op online, so sounds like this should be good too :D. I played a bit of COD WAW co-op the other day....i ended up gettin so pissed off by my own men trapping me against walls so i couldnt rescue my injured team mate lol.
Posted by dickieshort81
Your wrong mate EDGE are becoming biased beyond belief, to overhype Halo in the manor they did makes me feel sick, its almost as if MS send them brown envelopes stuffed with wads of cash to give biased reviews!

Anyway balls to all you biased 360 fans, im going home to play R2 all weekend while u guys are going over GOW2 again or playing a paltry 10 player DM :roll: . Played GOW2 and I have to admit it is very good, but IMO R2 offers something that bit more. So stop hating and pay credit where its due, I mean how many 360 games offer 60player online capability???????

(excuse spelling as @ work and cant spellcheck)
Posted by dickieshort81
Through all the sh1t I have read on this post once again some unbiased clarity from Fanboy, take ur xbox360 colour specs off for just once and if you know anyone with half a brain they will have purchased a PS3. Get them to rent or buy Resistance play the co-op and tell me if you think Halo3 is better and if R2 does not get the credit it deserves. Dont base your opinions on everything you read and as PUBLIC ENEMY once said 'DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE' :lol:
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