Share this article:
 Digg.com Facebook Google Bookmarks N4G Gamerblips del.icio.us Reddit Slashdot.org StumbleUpon I wouldn't know, seeing as I've been unable to connect to it since it installed...
I'm going to leave it for a while as it's not a priority for me and give it a shot once the initial excitement has calmed down.
Have to say that I like the PSN Store but apart from that I think Sony trail MS in their online endeavours.
I appreciate it's free though so I can't really complain as it's an 'added extra' - but I can also appreciate why Live is charged for because the service they provide is far more reliable in my opinion. As it is at the moment it's quite boring. It's also annoying that everything takes around a minute to load/download.
I think you would have to be quite stupid to see Home as a system seller, althoough no doubt it will improve in the future. Home -in its current state- is rubbish.
It might get better, but walking around a few locations, seeing idiots do a series of built in dances and watching the odd video is not my idea of a system seller.
Playing the odd game of pool is ok, hardly a glowing endorsement though.
It's just a way for Sony to make some money out the ordinary punter(extra dance move pack for £5 coming soon).
If i were working for Sony, i'd recommend some decent exclusive retail games rather than pinning my hopes on a lame free(to an extent)virtual 3d program.
I'm just waiting for someone from Sony to remind us about "the power of the cell" :lol: Ha ha ha ha ha, brilliant, that's cheered me up this monday morning.
What happened to the idea of games selling a system, that and a competitive price?
Sony are always spouting this kind of long term nonsense, oh and by the way, NEXT YEAR will be the ps3's :roll:
If MS stick to their 5 year cycle, then sony are going to have themselves a last gen console very quickly.
I know it's a little depressing, but it is monday morning after all :( *** Error C-931 ***
Unable to connect to Forum.
:roll: Microsoft have a 5 year cycle? Have you a link to that?
If that's true I'm selling my 360 now while I can get some return on it and I wont buy the next Microsoft console. They need to support it for longer than that. Mondays ARE depressing...
And I thought PS3's were "Dying on the shelves"... Hmm. I wonder what the truth is around here...?!? I'd be suprised if Home turned into a System Seller, it's an application and I dont know how they market it to turn the casuals on to it.
System Sellers should be games, I saw the God of War 3 trailer this morning and thats sure to sell a few systems (me included, probably). Ditto - amongst various other 'unable to connect' error numbers... Home and LBP were originally the two system sellers for me but aren't really anymore. Right now the only game which is is Heavy Rain. hahahahaha!!!
If the likes of LBP and uncharted can't get people to buy it I'm thinking a second life clone that has pretty much divided people that already own one. Is far from a system seller.
Sony this gen truely has lost the plot.
If you want to sell more systems. ditch home and spend the cash on securing some more good developers to work for you and some really good fantastic exclusive game deals.
A price cut of at least £100 might help too. Funny I thought they were doing that... with this
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43621.html
It's a shame CVG can only use articles to flame bait the fan boys like yourself rather than talking about actual games. Depends what they do with it, I suppose. Mind you, what people seem to forget is that they would quite happily pay for a pool, bowling or chess game off LIVE/PSN - but as soon as Sony let you play for free they suddenly get the 'meh factor'. The only unfortunate thing is trying to get a game as they are always busy. I'm looking forward to getting a pool table in the apartment.
Anyway, I am sure it will improve over time.
Let the slagging off party commence - if you've got any energy left from that moronic CNN story...... I have said it before and i'll say it again, CVG is either late with the news, rips news of other sites (Kotaku) or in this case just puts up flame bait like this crap (also see 'PS3 dieing on the shelves' story).Unfortunatley though, this site is also like a motorway car wreck- you can't help but take a look! :? Dear Sony,
How about you actually focus on what the Playstation brand became known for, and what is still one of the primary functions of the PS3: GAMES!?
"Home" may a nice little extra touch once the baby bumps are ironed out but to think that PS3 will markedly pick up due to a program like "Home" alone (no pun intended,) seems to me bereft of both common sense and a perspective rooted in reality. The masses that helped make the PS and PS2 so successful did so because of games - not free online socialising. The PS3 is in backwards momentum and facing fierce competition from its two main competitors. As other posters have noted what would probably serve Sony and PS3 far better would be more, and better, exclusive gaming titles and a large price cut. This really shouldn't come as a surprise.
I will only speak for myself on this but the price of the PS3 is an instant turn off for me. Even more so when compared to the price of the Xbox 360 or the Wii. Price is king in a battered economy. Economics 101. A virtual world designed for socialising is the least interesting thing the PS3 has going for it, if you ask me. It certainly wouldn't make me want to buy a console.
If you ask me, Sony would be better off promoting their exclusive IPs and working on network stability than adding in stuff to tax the servers even more. Go to gametrailers.com to see new footage of God of war 3 and Uncharted 2. THESE are the game that Sony should be plugging, not this white elephant called 'Home'. Yes tis a shame that we always fall for it. Ay voodoo.
i personally couldn't care less. its just fun watching people get outraged when you call thier console of choice a failure. Then again you seem to of stopped being a fanboy of anything but yourself. Does it make you feel less insecure to put all the other guys in netland down does it.
Happy that i'm provideing a community service for the dull and inadequete. 5 years has been the general hardware cycle for some time. It is the norm and regardless whether they support it after this Sony will be thrown into catchup again. I would be very surprised if Sony do not have a plan to bring out PS4 around the 5 year mark too, in fact I think they may have to go for the 4 year mark. Sadly it works, the fanboys crawl out of the woodwork and push their warped view as fact. If you believed everything in these forums Sony have ruined more peoples lifes than the Nazis. So you're just guessing at 5 years? shame you can't take a spelling class dude. Don't get involved Voodoo. They are just a bunch of school kids. Trying to get some sense out of these people is like trying to get a bit of humility from an MS employee.... »
...and there you go having a dig (again) at Microsoft :roll: You are no better sir! This is going to get messy. :lol:
Thank God for suits (notice that I dont say MS suits Mark, cause there all as bad as each other) what else would everyone argue (debate) about?
Only 09:50 as well, hope everyone came prepared? :wink: I can see how home might sell systems to the casual gamer who like miis and stuff.
But seeing how sony almost definately won't advertise home the casual market will have no way of knowing about it. Guessing? about sony, microsoft or in general? social virtual worlds have come and gone, second life has died a death thankfully I think it's probably safe until midday. They don't let them on the PC's at school again until lunch time. Microsofts 5 year plan for the 360. No, the suits are not all as bad as each other, StonecoldMC. Some are particular worse than others, coming from the general area of USA. Anybody who disagrees with that comment is a numpty. Sony employess may talk just as much crap, but they don't crap-talk others. That's the difference right there, fella. of course it is a guess. But going by the fact that practically every major home console has had close to a 5 year cycle I think it is a fairly good guess. Sales will naturally fall off and at that point they will release the next console. Sony will be left trailing again unless they release their next machine closer to the next xbox. Finally got around to trying Home this weekend... What a load of dull, sterile bollocks it is too.
It's surreal. It was like stepping into the biggest virtual gay nightclub ever created. Just lots and lots of dudes... Stood around dancing... In unnaturally clean environments.
I doubt I'll be back.
Make the place a war zone and grant the ability to cap dancers and then you've got my attention. System Seller?!? B******ks.
Unless your demographic is teenage girls, this won't do a jot for sales. Sony should be focusing on Resistence 2, Little Big Planet and Motorstorm 2 and not embarassing themselves like this. I would suggest MSs 5 year plan is to sell as many consoles as possible... Just a guess.
"Hill also told us that "no-one else is doing anything of this scale or ambition"."
Err.... <points at World of Warcraft> Tell that to Blizzard.
I will be amazed if HOME is a system seller. Metal Gear Solid 4, sure. LittleBigPlanet, ok. Even Killzone 2 could be.
But HOME? Really? 'I drove a Ferrari once. It was too red and much to fast. The steering wheel was much too round - as were the wheels! The seat belt was too tight and the engine was too loud!'*
*Letter from a Porche fan in the latest CVG (Cars and Van Guide) Think of the millions of mis-guided people that live in Second Life and other free internet online communities. Home has huge potentail!! Yes it's a bit rubbish at the moment. If Sony tap that market then I can see it easily being a system seller. I am almost happy Sony is having to WORK for it's money at the moment it's making them have to innovate and produce good content for free.
Off work sick with man flu today, maybe I'll re-arrange my virtual furniture, or maybe just play some PixelJunk Monsters and Far Cry 2. :cry: :lol: An MMO isn't the same thing, and other than having a lot of people connect isn't that technically impressive. It's the same mechanic whether you're fighting level 1 snakes or level 70 dragons, just with a different skin.
Home is trying to be a central hub for socialising and interacting, streaming news feeds and trailers, advertising, as well as playing and launching games. That's a lot of stuff to want to do from that environment, even without including all the multiplayer population control.
God damn it, look what you all did. You turned me into a f*cking marketing dude. Now I have to kill myself... They are to late. This should be done at launch or near launch. People would easily forigive the numerous bugs and glitches and be positive about it. Now people wonder what the heck the've been doing all this time and that it is a long term project doesn't help either. It feels like it's gonna take ages to be any good and by then i will have the next-gen console and can't really be bothered to much about the ps3, no matter how good home might be. Sony are effing Mad . they have lost the plot i cant even log in .they have messed up big time this generation .psn might be free but so what if every time they have something BIG come along you cant log in because the servers cant manage. I would agree with you there, in the sense that it usually is the Americanos that spout the most nonsense, however I would disagree if you think that this is only an MS trait, they all take pot shots at each other (some direct and some veiled) all the time over there. Its just there way I suppose. well, they certainly have you fooled then, which at the end of the day is what marketing is all about. Maybe not. However:
Walk about in HOME - see tons of people dancing
Walk about in WoW (or any MMO for the matter) - see tons of people dancing.
The similarities are startling :)
Say what you want regarding MMOs, but they have a LOT in common with HOME. Sure, the latter does have significant differences too, but that doesn't override the similarities. »
I don't believe any one thing is a system seller. It's when you take everything into consideration that you put your dosh on the counter. Home is just another string for Sonys harp. That is all there is to it really. I'm guessing that when Sony bring the price down, the harp will play a beautiful melody.
Quite poetic for a Monday morning, no? *hands Dajmin a handgun*
there's nine bullets in that.. take out 8 forum members before turning it on yourself
*runs for the door before Dajmin takes off the safety*
*tells WHERESMYMONKEY that Dajmin wants him on the way past* 100% agreed. I just think it's a case of weighing up the things you like/want (and detracting the negatives) - peoples thresholds vary, but systems are too pricey nowadays to get purely for one thing.
Even those that supposedly bought the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player - I bet they have used some, if not all, the other functions the PS3 has too... »
I doubt many would buy a PS3 purely for HOME....but, as an addition to what it already has - the games you mentioned and Blu-Ray, it could attract some people.
It's pretty obvious how the majority in these forums feel about it - but, we all seem to be pretty negative about Wii Fit and that really hasn't hurt Nintendos' sales.
Let's face it - we all seem pretty hard-nosed about anything that deviates from what we deem a 'true-game', but we certainly don't speak for every console owner. I'm sure there are many people who enjoy trying to chat people up in cyber-space more than playing something like Okami or COD4....certainly not my cup of tea, but more than likely a big deal to some.
:) »»
Great post. Exactly how I feel about the whole thing. And you are certainly right about the hard-nosed affair. It really helps to be able to see things from anothers perspective, rather than ramming a load of verbal bile down each others throats. Home is alright. The shopping mall etc is dull but the cinema is interesting. They just need to work on those download times. Maybe streaming the clips would be better. I played Draughts with a guy from Japan yesterday evening for about an hour before the wife took over the PS3 to watch EastEnders on iPlayer (thanks for that BBC). Some of the prices they're charging for clothing etc are mad and a rip off.
Overall not as bad as I thought but still a way to go yet for it. AWWW you remembered me. sadly you picked the day i finally thought **** it and brought a shotgun, and a glazed expression to work. I've got enough ammo for the lot of ya...
ahem..
to say one thing is a system seller unless it is a core part of the system itself is foolish. In these days of updateable consoles any app or software is sooner or later going to garner imitators from the competition. if it's sucsessful. good home is amazing it will be a system seller and if anyone says it won't be they are just wrong and don't forget to get marty :twisted: But how are non-PS3 owners even going to KNOW about HOME? It won't be on shop shelves, and thusfar, I've seen no adverts for it either.
Basically, the only way HOME could be a system seller is if you already know it HOME and the PS3 already and yet don't own one yet.
/smacks head
Dammit, just remembered who I was talking to. »
I would gladly take a bullet if I could see you get plugged in the head (twice) beforehand.
It would be my posthumous legacy to the rest of the forum goers. Well it certainly ain't a system seller for me. i'm waiting for the games next year and (hopefully) a price drop soon, as its still too much for me to buy and not its worth it. »»
well i would gladly take two bullets just to see you get shot and drowned in a stream it would be forum justice wrong wrong :lol:
yeah that's right you made me laugh... out loud as well. »
Please explain why this is wrong. ZOMG! HOME suckx! it gots nothing to and i'm all alone in it with no friends and they got nothing to do perhaps i said that and now this is becomming an epic wall of text and nobody likes epic wall of tezt =(
Wait, you say it's in BETA? oooh.. well, that explain's a few thing!
To the bitchers: Come on.. I mean, have you guys ever seen I perfect BETA? rofl
If so, please tell me which one =) »
You know a thread is officially dead once crimbo turns up.
So, crimbo - how many times have you been banned from HOME so far?...I think it's nice that you've become its' very first sex-pest.
:roll: »»
cause it just is
got it Not for me. Still too highly priced for my liking, certainly now as i lost my job few weeks ago. When cheaper ill look at it, but certainly not for now. I think they might flog a couple some PS3s off the back of it with some clever marketing.
Sadly it looks like they couldn't even market a sure fire winner effectively. (LBP)
so a dull second life clone is pretty much impossible.
Here's how they'll sell a few more machines.pump some money into bringing their production costs down a bit and give us a price cut. hell if they only made it the same price as a 360 elite it would more than likely at the very least get a few gamers to weigh up the pros and cons of both systems more. »»
only once but the wanker that reported me couldn't take a joke well that explanes it your a ****ing idiot :roll: Ah, I see - 'cos it is'...
You realise that just because you say something, doesn't necessarily make it fact, right?
If you disagree with what I wrote, I'd be genuinely interested to know why - because in all honesty, I can't see how I'm wrong here.
I can do a pop quiz in my office to see who's heard about HOME here.
And then I'll see who's heard about Wii Music... I think that HOME is only at its best/really shows what it is when you're with your mates. Sure I do get bored but thats mainly when Im by myself, but its a turn around when you've friends with you, its basically what it is, hang out with friends and make some new ones. But for a system seller, I admit, it looks a along way for now, once its in its full protental then I decide, but its good/ok for now.
BTW that connection error C-913 or what it is, its just heavy traffic, too many trying to connect at once, just keep trying then you'll get on, at times I have to do about 6-10 attemps just to get on. »»»
Have the school's broken up for Christams Holiday's already? takes one to know one! ur either playstation or your xbox 360! some who swing both ways then whatever floats your boat! but all saying this I used to be a massive PS2 fanboy and couldn't see past it! but now i own a 360 and cannot see past this! home has its perks and can kinda see why they have done it! personally it isn't for me! but may grow on me in time! and agree with alot of you all about concentrating more on the games and content rather then home! but i do think in time the PS3 will get the better of the 360! thats when the price comes down and some exclusive good titles are released until then home will not sell consoles! ...and to think - I was actually only kidding. Guess it's not just around here that you act like a complete c**k.
:roll: »
My guess?
It's not an act... »»
Personally, I'm curious about this so-called 'joke' that the 'w****r' couldn't take. I can't quite see crimbo doing stand up.
'Why did the chicken cross the road?'
'Because he did'
:roll: »»»
Finally someone more idiotic than Suivaloom.... And all the fanboys do the jobs for the likes of sony and microsoft.
Why not either enjoy whats on offer or go get a life or both but stop crying like babys and sounding like you work for the big companies and get a real job lol. »»
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Thanks, Parma. You just brightened my day that little bit further. ! Sorry to nitpick but a 911 Turbo will outdrag a F360 on a quarter mile run and is cheaper too. Oh and 'Porsche'. »»»
Worst argument ever. It's a fallacy. You fail. Fact. Er, ignoring Crimbo etc and back on topic..
"Home is trying to be a central hub for socialising and interacting, streaming news feeds and trailers, advertising, as well as playing and launching games. "
What's wrong with a neat menu for all that? Do you really need to walk into a virtual cinema that takes 30 seconds to load to watch a game trailer? Call of Duty 4 Multiplayer Beta. Played it till my thumbs bled. How about a big piece of humble pie? call of duty WAW was pretty damn solid too. So was the City of Villans one. I would agree with you, if HOME was ONLY that. However, it looks to me like there will be considerably more to HOME than just dashboard functionality (for want of a better term).
I remain utterly convinced it won't be a system seller, but I do believe it is more than an interactive menu with an avatar.
Just my opinion though. I think it's possible that HOME will be a system seller...for the 360!:lol:
I predict that people will start to steer away from the Foreman once the Sims and My Little Pony games start coming out in abundance. :wink: Of course it will be a system seller. A system; singular. :lol: On a side note, you couldn't expect sony to react any differently.
"yeah we finished home, called it beta, so if anyone comments about issues, we yell BETA and they stop complaining. I know it has been in beta for I know how long, but that's because the programmers are a bunch of idiots. It's boring. We all know it's highly unlikey it wil sell more then 2 systems, both of them in europe cause they support anything we do. Heck, if we sell turds on home, they are the first to buy it and tell the world the never knew turds could be this could. Though the real reason we build home is to advertise and make some easy money of that and the items to make up for the losses of the ps3." Yeah, I agree, the CoD4 Beta was solid.
But does that speak for ALL Beta's out there?
Does that mean every single beta out there HAVE to be perfect? no, it doesn't.
There's s reason why they call them Beta. Well, I wouldn't say home is ONLY that, I think it's worse than that! Why is there a limit to the number of people that can go bowling or play pool? What is the point in that? I wouldn't like it if I went online to play GT5 and it told me "Sorry, all the race tracks are full, you can't play." :) In all seriousness though, if Sony do this right, it should put Xbox Live to shame and make even the most brain-dead Xbot feel uneasy about forking out for Live & other such shite. It simulates real life interactions. Like waiting your turn, you possibly might start a conversation with someone who is also waiting, or go on to play something else.
Get it? you are wrong cause you don't know what you are talking about and i do know what i am talking about
.so if i say you are wrong you are wrong.
and you go do your quiz That's all well and good in the playground, but when gaming? F**k that.
If I got home with a brand new game, tried to play it and was told 'I was position 53rd in the queue - estimated playing time is 2 hours 36 minutes. Perhaps you mught want to chat to those also waiting in our lobby' I'd be pretty miffed. I think that's the most stupid justification for home i've seen on this thread. !It stimulates real life interactions??"
Why not just go and cue up in Argos and get the real thing?
So joining the Home community, walking around, not being entertained, cueing up and having crimbo do his best Gary Glitter impersonation is what will have people lining up to buy a PS3?
Colour me unimpressed! »
i will give that a go :P Except that Live is not shite. If PSN was better or even as good as live I would feel annoyed at having to pay but it is currently not even close. I was at a friends house at the weekend and we could not even get Home to load! Indeed. I couldn't give a flying f*ck about Home. I want games. That's the reason, and the reason alone, I'll buy a PS3. So you're seriously suggesting Sony developed Home to simulate queuing? It sounds to me like you've desperately built up a defence for a poorly executed service!
I'd say its far more likely that queues are the result of over-worked servers and/or poorly designed lobbies. Although saying that, I admire your conviction to creative thinking over far more likely technical issues; issues that will no doubt be ironed out in coming months.
"Home: Advanced Queuing Simulator" :roll: I have little faith in Sony, but even I find this approach tenuous! »»
It's ok dude....i've already found you!
Crimbo in home!
An oldy but a goodie! I don't have much knowledge of what home really is and I cannot afford a ps3. I haven't played it, and I could see it selling a wii or a 360, but people aren't going to pay £300 RRP for a console to play Home. It's never going to happen. Are Sony going down the Nintendo route and actually forgetting it's a GAMES console.
I would buy a PS3 if:
1 - the exclusives coming out next year are good.
2 - I wasn't self employed and working in the property industry in the middle of a recession!
3 - price comes down to nearer £200.
4 - it didn't turn me into a complete and utter, overly defensive and blinkered ****. Even people who own both on these forums, still can't take a little gentle ribbing or even a serious and relevant criticism over the PS3.
I have no allegiance (apart from possibly Nintendo and they're pushing their luck!), but then again I have been using MS products since Windows 3.11 - Busted!!
And people who use the 'you haven't tried it, so you have no opinion' are wrong on this one. We are talking about it selling systems, so someone who hasn't tried it before is exactly the consumer that Sony would be going for! Just thought up the ultimate marketing stategy for Home. Market it to agrophobics and the completely socially inadequete.
Home - for people that can't bear to leave thiers. »
I think the longer this gen goes on the better. Because I have a terrible feeling that the next Xbox could be like a Wii Mark II
i.e under-powered, cheap and full of casual, mass-market crap. And not just Microsoft will go this route for their next console, Sony will obviously follow where the money is at also.
So prepare for the next Xbox 720 to be as powerful as a PSP, and cost £49.99 and sell 450,000 units a week in England alone... There is no way Microsoft would do this.
No way.
They can't compete with Nintendo on the innovation front, so they will continue to chuck more and more powerful at their new consoles. hopefully we'll get the best of both worlds from the next gen of consoles. I think MS has found to its benefit that its new mixed approach is working really well and will continue to this onto the next gen. Hell the reason the wii gets so under developed for is because it doesn't have the graphic potential of the other two.
Sony will as alway try and rip off what ever the competition are doing and bung a new videoplayer in for good mesure.
Have a feeling the wii will ahve a NES like quality to it. They'll be a new Ninty console, but it'll still sell bucket loads. I hope you're right, I really do.
But it is worrying the way Wii selling 1 million units an hour could turn MS and Sony's heads no doubt.
Just think, no-one could of ever foreseen Ninty being mass-market leaders and the casual gamers best friend pre-Wii, yet in 1 generation they have completely changed their strategy.
It wouldn't take much for MS and Sony to switch their strategy and go in direct competition with The Big N.
Afterall, they'll follow where the money takes them. Don't forget the HUGE losses MS and Sony both had to incur to get their market shares that big, and some say Sony are still making a loss on each console sold Is there even room in the market for 2 (or 3!) 'Wii-type' consoles? This is exactly where Sony is going wrong, thinking Home can help shift PS3's.
I have one myself and I think it's dire. If you like 3D chat rooms things then you may find some enjoyment, but for the rest of us, it's a feature that Sony have wasted their time, money and effort on.
If they want to shift consoles, go back to basics and realize games sell consoles... Well the question before was: Is there room for another PS2-like console, to which everyone would have said: No way!
How things have changed! PS3 is looking like the next Gamecube this gen, and the Gamecube's successor is looking like the PS2 in terms of market dominece, so that is very ironic.
Oh well. »
Irony is a harsh mistress.
Nintendo screwed Sony over by dropping their CD-32 add on thingy, and not actually telling them til the last minute. Sony then screwed over Nintendo by releasing that 'add on' as a standalone unit (called the Playstation) and TROUNCED them. And then, after 2 generations of kicking the stuffing out of Nintendo, Ninty come right back and kick them back.
It's a funny old game. home is crap...its so boring,long load times and nothing to do !!!!!!!!waste of 3 gb of my hdd Funny you say this as gow3 gets slammed.
Theres a hell of a lot of people on home around the globe so white elephant it isnt.
try again xbot. Oh god humanity is doomed!
If people expect crap like this to be a system seller then i dont want to be part of this species any more. Well, the potential is there.
And it's free, so I'm not going to complain about something that's free, especially when it has potential.
The only thing that bothers me is the fact that US Home has Uncharted and Far Cry 2 space and EU Home doesn't. What the ****? You're right, I wouldn't call it a white elephant. Its more of an albatross! I guess if one guy sees HOME on a friends machine and buys a PS3 based on that then it would be a system seller. He didn't say it would moved HUNDREDS of thousands of PS3s after all. What I find odd about MSs NXE is that I actually browse the content WAY less than I did when it was the clunky and hard to navigate old setup. I have buddies who don't even know that those little odd community games are out there. With the NETFLIX thing I NEVER look at the movies to rent section anymore. If HOME was somehow able to become like WOW then maybe but unless SONY charges for it then it won't help them in the long run. You can't sell a console at a loss and give the consumer a free "game" to play that occupies so much of their interest that they don't spend money on games. You'll notice Nintendo didn't sell theirs at a loss and therefore could pack in a game. I know people with Wiis who have never bought a game for it. it could become big when new features are added and the geeks get a hold of it.
right now though.. i couldnt believe (even after a closed beta) how much of a bare bones release it was. how long did it take to come up with a few rooms to walk up and down in?!
i could have done better than that! i was on home all weekend and i honestly didnt enjoy it as much as i thought i would. maybe in the future my opinion will change but for now its a waste of time and over hyped so good you were on it all weekend. I'm not a fanboy, I'd have a 360 and a PS3 if I could (Had a Wii- was very disappointed) but the sheer price of the PS3 puts me off buying one. It's probably more expensive now than it was last year thanks to this economy and the lack of price cuts.
'Home' doesn't make me want to get one any more than NXE would have made me want a 360 (had I not already got one).
The cold hard facts are these:
It's too expensive.
Any other facts don't matter. some people must be poor if they cant afford to save up and buy a £300 ps3. get a job ****!
i payed £425 for mine. great purchase.
the price may be off-putting but remember it will be used for years to come. every new update you can see the ps3 coming into its own. its a far cry from what they had at launch.
i can see home, a year down the line, becoming popular. for now its just a chat room. a bad one. some people must be poor if they cant afford to save up and buy a £300 ps3. get a job ****!
i payed £425 for mine. great purchase.
the price may be off-putting but remember it will be used for years to come. every new update you can see the ps3 coming into its own. its a far cry from what they had at launch.
i can see home, a year down the line, becoming popular. for now its just a chat room. a bad one. It's not just a question of 'well get a job then', is it?
I mean, I can't afford - or at least, can't justify affording - a PS3 now or in the foreseeable future. I have a reasonably-paid job, but I also have: a mortgage, regular associated bills for gas, electricity, phone, council tax etc, a wife and child to support, two cars to run, and so on. »
Such a charming comment...
All media always copy each other, so I stick to this one for my gaming news. I don't have more time in my day to also scan other sites so if they recycle a bit, that's fine by me. For every overly defensive and blinkered t**t as you colourfully put it there's an idiotic moron who feels it's his duty to take cheap shots at any PS3 owner in defence of all that is Microsoft. Check out the God of War article if you can't bring yourself to believe it. I used to dislike MS and their Xbox but now that I own all three consoles I have to admit they have come a long long way.
I used to really respect Sony in my PS2 days but have to admit: this respect has fallen quite significantly.
I always thought Nintendo was for women and still do. I got the Wii for my girlfriend. :lol:
MS have done something very hard: muscle into an extremely competitive console market. They have managed to do so by being 'busy', constantly staying vigilant with pricecuts, upgrades, lots of games, etc.
They have made many, many mistakes. But they've learned.
If you'd ask me to ditch 2 consoles and keep one my answer would be: I'll keep the 360 and ditch the other two. (My girl would kill me!)
But then again. I still have my trustworthy PC for some serious strategy gaming :roll:
Just wish I had more time... i was a closed beta member and never had a problem gettin into home.....however since the open one was released iv only managed to get in once. if sony want to make this thing big (system seller lol) they need to fix the problem very fast, because its a total mess at the moment imo. :twisted: Yeah sure i want to buy a 300 quid console and walk about a world chatting to be people and designing my pad, strange thing is when i buy a console i want to play games, not pat take in some virtual world, where your stuck with only being able to talk.
People want games to play, so far the reasons to pwn a ps3 are it plays blue-ray films, ita got home and errrrr and it has some ok games........
it should be it has amazing games, a bonus is it play films and it has this home thing which is good.
Games come first, thats why its a game console.
Besides i could get a better stand alone blue-ray player now for alot less money and if i want a virtual life, then their is the sims and second life on the pc. Think it is crap so far. But there's no doubt there's potential. I hate that word though, I want good things now or soon...not 2010... I see your point, but *if* that is the rationale then I think Sony has erred. It's called "reality" and it doesn't cost you a monthly subscription (though a great many other things in reality will). Open your doors kiddies and try not to burn your eyes out from the bright orb of light and fire referred to as "the Sun". :P Aye. It might be easier for Microsoft to buy a majority share in Nintendo with its deep pockets, but I don't see that happening just yet either. And today's literary reference bonus point goes to: <drumroll> WHERESMYMONKEY!!!
"The Rhyme of The Ancient Mariner" is one of my favourite poems; had to learn a verse each week back in 6th grade. Dreaded it at the time yet now I look back upon it proudly and wish I remembered the entire poem by heart. Ah, memories! :wink: I still haven't even been able to connect to the service. Doesn't really matter.. it's been hacked already and will probably be delayed.
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/18394/PlayStation-Home-Hacked-Already/ It's already out. That's just ignorant. You have no idea what financial obligations that previous poster has. None of us do about each other unless someone is sharing personal details. That said, it's generally a safe bet that unless you are living at home or someone else is paying your bills and basic food bills that these come first. Then add in insurances for whatever vehicles, special coverage, yada yada one may have after the tax collector has taken the state's share and there's not much left. Even more so when you factor in that in 20-30 years there won't be much of a pension system left anywhere more or less and that's another chunk of the monthly wages that disappears (unless of course you live haphazardly and have few long term plans - like owning your own property someday, etc.). I *can* afford a PS3 and I can *also* afford the much more expensive console games when compared to PC game prices yet like the poster whom you lambasted for being frugal as opposed to reckless with his funds in lean times, I too find the PS3 too expensive compared to what else is on the market and in comparison to what it offers. Remember: It's not just the initial investment in the console itself you have to take into account. Add-on peripherals and the games themselves need to be factored in (nevermind the electricity bill and internet connection if you go that route). »
There was also a game based on 'The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner'.
I had to learn it back in school too - I remember we spent a fair few weeks on it, we must've only been about 6 or 7....it's actually pretty cool, for those that aren't aware of the story.
I always think of it when I hear Fleetwood Macs' 'Albatross'
:) :lol: :lol: :lol: »»
Nice one! There was a computer game made about it?! And I missed it?! Was it any good? :lol: I've had a bit of a look for some information on the game, but I honestly can't find anything at all.
I'm pretty sure it was either on C64 or Atari ST/Amiga (most likely the latter). If I recall correctly, it was a mostly text-based adventure game - I never actually owned or played it, but I'm sure I didn't just imagine it...the only thing I remember was a screenshot of a haggard old mans' face over a map.
Any other posters remember this game? - I probably read about it in an old C&VG.
:) Today truly is a trip down memory lane: The old Commodore 64...and 30 minute tape load times. Good times - especially when the game would crash just when starting up and you would have to restart it again and watch those eye bleeding colored line boxes alternate. That was the first console my parents got me. :lol: Love it so much you don't even get the name right!
"The Rime of the Ancient Mariner"... :roll: I think Home has potential but lets see what Sony come up with over the next few months/years.
I seen this comment on another site and I agree with it completely:
"It's getting annoying to find that idiots are still thinking that Home is a game. It's a social network. The obvious function is to be able to chat with people who share your interests in games. It's a place to meet new friends outside of just shooting each other in the face. It's a place to be able to ask "hey, is this game fun?" to real people before you buy something. It's 3D IRC. And for the last ****ing time, Home is NOT A GAME! You're supposed to go on to chat with people. THose who are arguing like "if I wanted to just walk around and talk to people, I'd do that in real life." Then explain why you use AIM, MSN, Google Chat? Sometimes people want to chat with friends without having to waste minutes on cell phones or without having to reach for their keys and drive. Sometimes I want to talk to my clan mates outside of the game, so it's not all serious all the time. Sometimes I just want to hang out with my friends without actually moving from the comforts of my home. Unless all you want to do with the PS3 is to play games alone, then Home is useless. If you want to talk to other gamers and jump into games with people you just met and find interesting, then Home is perfect. Actually, if you want a social life without all the hassle, then Home is perfect. (well, it's not perfect right now, load time can be bothersome)." Correct you are! I'd ask for your forgiveness...then I realised I don't require it. How's that for a segway to the story told in the poem, eh (except of course that the poem goes the opposite way)?! :wink: very few people actually talk or type on home, they all seem to be perfectly amused by wandering about and occasionally dancing.
am i missing something or are other people just easily amused?
oh and theres the chase the female avatar whos really a fat man called bob minigame that everyone seems to enjoy so much.
if i want to talk to my real friends ill just use the nxe 8 way party chat much more simple to use
homes deleted and its going to stay that way for a long time oh and i got hit on by 2 seperate gay guys within 30 seconds of entering home square for the 1st time,i may have been flattered,maybe a little curious, but i dont swing that way so when the last one kept going on about how he was bent i suggested a good chiropractor (or however its spelt) and left someone keeps stealing my lamps! »
yeah the commodore64..what a 'console' that was :wink: Is this the GoW article with the video, because I just looked through the whole 66 post thread and couldn't really see anything that bad at all, if anything. And in my opinion, Sony have dropped the ball this gen, and a lot of criticisms I think are relevant. They may have picked it up though (the metaphoric ball that is!). Or they got Nintendo's ball, because they started to get their act together just as Nintendo decided not to bother making decent games for the wii!
And you're right there are plenty of 360 owners who take cheap pop shots at Sony, but I think they're outnumbered by at least 2:1. Pretty much every gaming website forum I read (I only ever bother posting here because I can't take most of the American OTT posts) seems to think everyone is biased against the PS3!
MS and the 360 are certainly not perfect, I started to play Fable 2 for the first time properly today and the noise is off the effing chart!! Absolutely ridiculous. I phoned Gamestation and he said that's how it runs because of all the data - I don't have this with GTA4, which surely has a larger game world loaded at one point? I ended up having to wipe out most of my crappy 13.7GB of space to install it on the HD. No other game gives me this problem. Unbelievable!! And all the chest beating, blatantly going after the casual market in a sony/Nintendo way etc etc - however, none of this really detracts from the gameplay (although I have to turn the volume up!!). Although not being able to play it when it eventually RRoDs will effect it somewhat!
I think ...Ancient Mariner was also a Iron Maiden song based on the poem too! System seller
hahahahahahahahahahahha woah woooo woooooo hahahahahahahahah heehehehehehehehhehe weeeeewoah woooooo hahahahahahahhahaha
dies laughing | 
