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Israel protests UN chief Ban Ki-Moon's use of term 'nakba'
By Rotem Sela, TheMarker Correspondent, and Haaretz Service
Tags: Facing Tomorrow, Tzipi Livni 

The Israeli mission to the United Nations is seeking clarifications after an official communique released by Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon's bureau made specific reference to the word "nakba," according to a report broadcast on Israel Radio early Friday morning.

The report said the UN chief telephoned Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to express his solidarity with the Palestinians on the day they mark the "nakba," the Arabic word meaning "catastrophe" that is used in reference to the founding of the state of Israel.

Danny Carmon, Israel's deputy ambassador to the UN, told Israel Radio that the term "'nakba' is a tool of Arab propaganda used to undermine the legitimacy of the establishment of the State of Israel, and it must not be part of the lexicon of the UN."
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Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni on Thursday said that the Palestinians will be able to celebrate their independence day on the same day that the word "nakba" or catastrophe is erased from their lexicon. Livni was referring to the Palestinians' "Nakba Day" which is commemorated on May 15, the day Israel was founded in 1948.

Speaking at the closing panel of the "Facing Tomorrow" presidential conference in Jerusalem, Livni said that Israel needs a constitution, and stressed that since Israel views itself as a Jewish democratic state, it must take into account that it will have to relinquish territories. However, she said, land will only be handed over after the Palestinians change their stance.

"Deciding on fixed borders is important, but not enough; before we draw up a border we must decide what will be on the other side of it," she said.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak also addressed the crowd in Jerusalem, saying that "there is no future for a nation that doesn't know its past."

After giving an overview of the history of the state of Israel, Barak said that of all the events that Israel has experienced, the one thing that he remembers most is the day that he met Ronny, the female fighter pilot from Kibbutz Lohamei HaGetaot, who symbolized for him the long way the Jewish people had come since the Holocaust. "Ronny flies in circles 30,000 feet over Kibbutz Lohamei HaGetaot, which was established in memory of those who fought in the Holocaust," he said.

Though he called for peace in his address, Barak chose to disparage those who urge immediate peace negotiations with the Palestinians, saying "the saying 'the wolf shall dwell with the lamb' came out of Jerusalem, but in practice, the lamb is replaced every few days."

Opposition leader and Likud Chairman Benjamin Netanyahu began his address before the conference with a focus on finance. He said that Israel could turn into an "Israeli tiger" ? referencing the Celtic tiger, a nickname given to Ireland following its rapid financial development since the mid 1990s.

"Israel can enjoy 6-8 percent growth each year over the next decade," the former finance minister said. He emphasized the importance of the reforms that he had instituted during his tenure as finance minister, which, according to him, directly resulted in the financial growth Israel has enjoyed in recent years.

All three speakers chose to emphasize the importance of education in their speeches. Barak said that Israel's only resource was the grey matter between the ears of Israel's younger generation. He added that the only way to achieve security and prosperity was to invest in education.
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  1.   Nobel Prize 21:46  |  Neshan Balian 15/05/08
  2.   who would the Palestinians celebrate when 22:04  |  US person 15/05/08
  3.   Debatable issue... 22:08  |  Esther 15/05/08
  4.   What an arrogant people! 22:29  |  Hadi 15/05/08
  5.   To the Zionists of Israel 22:31  |  Sami the palestinian 15/05/08
  6.   Unbelievable Arrogance! 22:42  |  Rainbow Warrior 15/05/08
  7.   Headline is written backwards 22:46  |  Conference 15/05/08
  8.   Remember the Shoah, but forget Nakba? Livni hypocrisy. 23:00  |  Michael 15/05/08
  9.   errrr.. yes baowss 23:01  |  Ahmed 15/05/08
  10.   To #2 23:05  |  Ari 15/05/08
  11.   May 15, the day Israel was founded in 1948. 23:14  |  Joseph . E 15/05/08
  12.   zibbi livni stop using "holacoust" 23:16  |  Concerned Pali 15/05/08
  13.   Livni`s statement reported backwards! 23:16  |  A.G. 15/05/08
  14.   Arabs Only Have Catastrophes To Celebrate 23:24  |  Mordechai 15/05/08
  15.   Re Conference #5 23:31  |  Esther 15/05/08
  16.   What`s In A Daydream? 23:32  |  Yanatan 15/05/08
  17.   Hadi 23:40  |  Soldier of Above 15/05/08
  18.   #2 23:50  |  Czech Man 15/05/08
  19.   #4 23:53  |  Czech Man 15/05/08
  20.   "the wolf shall dwell with the lamb" Means No More Skulduggery 23:54  |  Joseph . E 15/05/08
  21.   #3 23:56  |  Czech Man 15/05/08
  22.   Error in article! Logic of comments turned around 00:05  |  Avi 16/05/08
  23.   Disgusting 00:05  |  Denise 16/05/08
  24.   To all Arab friends 00:06  |  Otto Rand 16/05/08
  25.   #11 you frogat mintion that god Gave jews the land. 00:25  |  tim 16/05/08
  26.   Haaretz - If AG is correct in post #7 00:32  |  Benny 16/05/08
  27.   Rainbow Warrior there is no such 00:43  |  Fred 16/05/08
  28.   To Soldier(!) of above 00:55  |  Hadi 16/05/08
  29.   Don`t confuse her with facts she already gives away lands 00:56  |  not 1square inch 16/05/08
  30.   Stop whining, start working 01:04  |  Voltaire 16/05/08
  31.   LIVINI,BARAK, BIBI THREE REVISIONISTS 01:14  |  JH 16/05/08
  32.   WHY DIDNT THEY LEAVE 01:15  |  TOBIA 16/05/08
  33.   Tzipi Livni only Israeli politician with depth 01:25  |  Mark B. 16/05/08
  34.   an Arab`s view 01:42  |  AD 16/05/08
  35.   A.G. I hope you are right 01:49  |  Dave Duncan 16/05/08
  36.   Another way of looking at Livni`s statement 02:13  |  Marlene N. 16/05/08
  37.   # 11 Soldier of above 02:23  |  Alan 16/05/08
  38.   Sami 3 02:40  |  Beitcafe 16/05/08
  39.   Naqba and Holocaust 02:42  |  Dovy 16/05/08
  40.   When they Pals stop fantasizing about being anybodys 02:47  |  Sal 16/05/08
  41.   We`re not handing over any of our land. Livni can hand over her l 02:55  |  Chaim 16/05/08
  42.   Joseph E - American Independence 02:57  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/05/08
  43.   7 AG - Thanks for Clarifying 03:03  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/05/08
  44.   when we stop using Nakba? 03:19  |  ahmad abouali 16/05/08
  45.   To the Palestinian Terrorists 03:20  |  Sami the Jew 16/05/08
  46.   Ban Ki-Moon should say what others are saying 03:33  |  Dutch 16/05/08
  47.   BBC reported the Nabka also 03:47  |  paulo2005 16/05/08
  48.   #22 Ahmad 04:04  |  Jabotinsky 16/05/08
  49.   SAMI THE JEW 04:07  |  PAUL FELDMAN 16/05/08
  50.   Mordechai = sounds good to him 04:09  |  wibism 16/05/08
  51.   Why don`t YOU leave? 04:12  |  wibism 16/05/08
  52.   Nakba - Yes, They Are Sorry they Did Not Liquidate the Jews 04:14  |  Tod Zuckerman 16/05/08
  53.   Arabs conquered Israel from the Jews 04:28  |  Ben Kobi 16/05/08
  54.   Throw out terrorists & hijackers who remained after `48 04:32  |  Emes 16/05/08
  55.   un chief 04:34  |  azad 16/05/08
  56.   Ban is a truly humane leader 04:43  |  Jeff 16/05/08
  57.   Denying the nakba if a crime against humanity 04:47  |  John 16/05/08
  58.   big surprise the bbc spews it`s hat once more towards israel 05:06  |  hal tripp 16/05/08
  59.   Just like his mentor.... 05:09  |  Webster 16/05/08
  60.   HOLOCAUST TERM VS NAKBA TERM 05:20  |  indrajaya 16/05/08
  61.   Please stop crying my cousin 05:48  |  Ariel is fed up 16/05/08
  62.   #29 doris cadigan decides what the world needs again 06:08  |  v hardman 16/05/08
  63.   #40.....i`m also fed up 06:12  |  Hans 16/05/08
  64.   Arab Arrgoance: 1, 2, 3, 4.... 06:13  |  Tex 16/05/08
  65.   Arab Arrrogance, Part 2 06:18  |  Tex 16/05/08
  66.   Israel doesn`t get to choose another peoples narrative 06:20  |  BBSNews 16/05/08
  67.   The Perpetual Refugees...A Reality Check 06:26  |  Jaobtinsky 16/05/08
  68.   The Threat 06:27  |  Alan 16/05/08
  69.   Hadi #2 06:32  |  miep 16/05/08
  70.   The Holocaust is used to justify the founding 06:35  |  Mordi 16/05/08
  71.   Nakba. 06:40  |  Maureen Ann 16/05/08
  72.   Israel protests.......Only if I had a dime every time 06:55  |  Igor 16/05/08
  73.   #31 demented dutch`s DESPERATE & PATHETIC act 07:03  |  CK Tan 16/05/08
  74.   The Palestinian With The Encouragement Of The Arab States Created 07:05  |  Eli 16/05/08
  75.   #v hardman/Paul. Do have a duel citizenship? 07:12  |  Maureen Ann 16/05/08
  76.   who are you people and why are you posting here? 07:18  |  Camel 16/05/08
  77.   to indrajaya 07:19  |  Camel 16/05/08
  78.   to AD 07:21  |  camel 16/05/08
  79.   #46 indrajaya - one is a REALITY and one is a MYTH 07:22  |  CK Tan 16/05/08
  80.   To wibism #37 07:25  |  camel 16/05/08
  81.   to #42 07:28  |  camel 16/05/08
  82.   Jaobtinsky on friends who have an axe to grind... 07:40  |  BBSNews 16/05/08
  83.   Why the shock 07:50  |  David 16/05/08
  84.   # 50 Jacobtinsky, Re: The Palestinian refugees 07:57  |  Dutch 16/05/08
  85.   NAKBA, CATÁSTROFE! 08:01  |  Niva dos santos 16/05/08
  86.   Oh I see now the favorite Israel-bashing term is naqba 08:14  |  Fed-up 16/05/08
  87.   The UNO. 08:27  |  Jean Van Daem 16/05/08
  88.   #31 demented dutch`s DESPERATE & PATHETIC act 08:32  |  CK Tan 16/05/08
  89.   #46 indrajaya - one is a REALITY and one is a MYTH 08:33  |  CK Tan 16/05/08
  90.   #56 demented dutch CHANGING subject (but of course!) 08:40  |  CK Tan 16/05/08
  91.   #57, maybe you should do some reading 08:49  |  A Bethlehemite 16/05/08
  92.   This asian boy 08:50  |  PARIS 16/05/08
  93.   Jeff, Ban Ki-Moon reflects our common humanity 08:53  |  Dutch 16/05/08
  94.   Arab Catastrophes 08:55  |  Lasse 16/05/08
  95.   TO ALL ANTIISRAEL PIN HEADS 08:56  |  MJ 16/05/08
  96.   TO ALL ANTIISRAEL PIN HEADS 09:00  |  MJ 16/05/08
  97.   The world`s biggest nation of whiners and squealers 09:32  |  Clickfool 16/05/08
  98.   State of Israel 09:39  |  Jaroslav Secansky 16/05/08
  99.   CK Tan on "FINSSE"... 09:40  |  BBSNews 16/05/08
  100.   sounds like israel needs to come to terms with its past! 09:48  |  eric 16/05/08
  101.   And I`m tired of SHOAH SHOAH SHOAH SHOAH SHOAH 09:49  |  Chanalau, Tova 16/05/08
  102.   For MJ, from a pinhead # 82 09:50  |  Clickfool 16/05/08
  103.   Hey MJ 09:51  |  BBSNews 16/05/08
  104.   Well, you can`t say zionism lacks chutzpah 09:52  |  Johnboy 16/05/08
  105.   It is a two way street Ms. Livni 09:54  |  Steve the Pals. 16/05/08
  106.   How Do You Spell Nakba ? 09:58  |  Klaudia 16/05/08
  107.   " 60 Years of Nakba - Israel`s Continuing Policy of Forcible ... 09:59  |  Atilla KARAGÖZOĞLU 16/05/08
  108.   ?On the fourth day, I believe it was 9 June 1967 ... 10:00  |  Atilla KARAGÖZOĞLU 16/05/08
  109.   " ...expelled from their homes live in crowded refugee camps ... 10:06  |  Atilla KARAGÖZOĞLU 16/05/08
  110.   Typical UN bias 10:08  |  Harvey (Chaim) 16/05/08
  111.   Development. Where? 10:11  |  Lasse 16/05/08
  112.   Naqba 10:13  |  Ralph Blumenau 16/05/08
  113.   # 68 BBSNews, Re: Sidney Zabludoff 10:15  |  Dutch 16/05/08
  114.   # 68 BBSNews, Re: Sidney Zabludoff 10:15  |  Dutch 16/05/08
  115.   ? We feel isolated and under siege ... 10:16  |  Atilla KARAGÖZOĞLU 16/05/08
  116.   " ?I support compulsory transfer, and I do not see ... 10:17  |  Atilla KARAGÖZOĞLU 16/05/08
  117.   Camel in Philly 10:18  |  wibism 16/05/08
  118.   ? In 1974, I visited Zir?in to see what had happened ... 10:19  |  Atilla KARAGÖZOĞLU 16/05/08
  119.   SO ! WHAT ARE THESE ALL ABOUT ? can a honest man explain ? 10:20  |  ... 16/05/08
  120.   #12, Otto Rand 10:21  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/05/08
  121.   Why Bother to Protest? 10:21  |  JordanisPalestine 16/05/08
  122.   #62 Citizenship 10:36  |  Rab Burns 16/05/08
  123.   Nakba is Pals` Shoah. Israel needs to admit its crimes. 10:37  |  Michael 16/05/08
  124.   Nakba? and who`s? 10:40  |  David Nigel Braham 16/05/08
  125.   and some of the rest of us object... 10:42  |  samos 16/05/08
  126.   #91 10:46  |  Shmuel 16/05/08
  127.   Answering MJ (2nd try) # 82 10:56  |  Clickfool 16/05/08
  128.   Whining, whining, whining... 10:58  |  Clickfool 16/05/08
  129.   oh dear oh dear 11:05  |  Mike 16/05/08
  130.   To Hadi 11:09  |  Ricardo Levy 16/05/08
  131.   Well, stop using the word "Holocaust" 11:10  |  El-Birawi 16/05/08
  132.   Iberia 11:13  |  Ricardo Levy 16/05/08
  133.   NAKBA in capital letters 11:33  |  Sabra 16/05/08
  134.   Nakba = Arafat and Hamas 11:46  |  ScotGuy 16/05/08
  135.   at #102 11:48  |  Paul 16/05/08
  136.   UN shows strong anti-Israel Bias Yet Again 11:58  |  Baruch Gold 16/05/08
  137.   # 102. El Birawi. You have a contentious point.. 11:59  |  Stephen. 16/05/08
  138.   Israel (the Jewish people) walking on a thin, thin line..... 12:02  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/05/08
  139.   To : # 97, "I have in my heart the memory of our lost temple ... 12:14  |  # 91 16/05/08
  140.   El Birawi and your true catastrophe 12:26  |  x-ray 16/05/08
  141.   abu ali tells the truth, he wants the Jews out of Israel 12:29  |  x-ray 16/05/08
  142.   "nakba" means from an Arab perspective Israel`s establishment and 12:34  |  Amihai 16/05/08
  143.   Dino wields the lash again 12:35  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 16/05/08
  144.   nakba=the etnic cleansing of 1948 12:45  |  Jens 16/05/08
  145.   arab are fed up by palestinians gangs 12:47  |  gil 16/05/08
  146.   Arabs and Jews 12:56  |  Said 16/05/08
  147.   From their perspective it is `nakba`, it wasn`t a joyful occasion 13:02  |  Tupac 16/05/08
  148.   Fire our dysfunctional Ambassador to the UN 13:04  |  Yossi Cronenberg 16/05/08
  149.   Peace now depends on erasing history 13:06  |  Nick Ferriman 16/05/08
  150.   I`d love to see Israel walk that walk 13:10  |  Colin Wright 16/05/08
  151.   Not everyone celebrates the founding of Israel 13:12  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/05/08
  152.   End the use of Holocaust and Nakba together as sign of Peace 13:14  |  Johan Odin 16/05/08
  153.   Negationism 13:15  |  Bar-Khode 16/05/08
  154.   And WHAT ABOUT THE JEWISH NAQBA????? 13:15  |  Ofer Maimon 16/05/08
  155.   NAKBA MEANS DISASTER... AND IT WAS FOR THE PALESTINIANS! 13:22  |  TripleJump 16/05/08
  156.   Swiss (Dino)s wisdom is deep as the ocean.. 13:22  |  Ofer Maimon 16/05/08
  157.   hadi 13:23  |  scallywag 16/05/08
  158.   After TAMMUZ 2006, the will be NO MORE NAKBAS! 13:23  |  Hizbullah Warrior 16/05/08
  159.   Nakba Education Should be Part of Holocaust Education Worldwide 13:24  |  Johan Odin 16/05/08
  160.   The creation of the artificial state of israel was a misfortune, 13:24  |  lakshmi 16/05/08
  161.   bush contradiction 13:26  |  world`s citizen 16/05/08
  162.   to all israeli bashers 13:29  |  vladimir 16/05/08
  163.   ISRAELIS WANT TO CHANGE HISTORY 13:30  |  JH 16/05/08
  164.   @14, benny, haaretz is not shoddy, it is ideology!! 13:42  |  vladimir 16/05/08
  165.   Israelis want to start reading responses 13:51  |  Rachel Stevens 16/05/08
  166.   # 21 Mark B....she is good isn`t she 13:52  |  Lynn 16/05/08
  167.   #`s 1-4;Neshan Balian, Hadi, Sami the palestinian,Rainbow 13:55  |  Doc Holliday 16/05/08
  168.   description 13:55  |  Fair 16/05/08
  169.   @25, alan, you are too stupid to understand 13:56  |  vladimir 16/05/08
  170.   @32, ahmad, you are dreaming, we will never agree to live 14:07  |  vladimir 16/05/08
  171.   Nakba 14:12  |  Pierre 16/05/08
  172.   Funny to see a Jew(ess) preaching against "victimhood" 14:15  |  Tosefta 16/05/08
  173.   celebration and nakba 14:18  |  JJ burke 16/05/08
  174.   nakba invented 50 yrs later 14:20  |  peter 16/05/08
  175.   the UN has all the reasons for threading carefully on this one - 14:24  |  ivo 16/05/08
  176.   nakba = Israel`s creation!!! Israel was proclaimed based on a UN 14:27  |  Amihai 16/05/08
  177.   El Birawi misses an essential point 14:31  |  peter 16/05/08
  178.   An attitude... 14:32  |  Boris 16/05/08
  179.   Lynn #120: in Obama`s words, she`s a "sweetie" :) 14:33  |  ivo 16/05/08
  180.   May be Jean Marie Le Pen is right 14:34  |  El-Birawi 16/05/08
  181.   Holocaust denial and Nakba denial. 14:35  |  Michael 16/05/08
  182.   You`re quite the comic Johan Odin 14:39  |  x-ray 16/05/08
  183.   Dutch 14:42  |  George Kaplan 16/05/08
  184.   Let us talk to Bush about Slowman 14:44  |  Rotem Sela 16/05/08
  185.   Ignoring the Legitimate View of the Palestinians 14:55  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/05/08
  186.   Israel`s Nakba: Denying the existence of Palestinians 15:10  |  Palestinian in UK 16/05/08
  187.   Lynn #120 15:11  |  Keith 16/05/08
  188.   Nakba 15:13  |  Fredy Ross 16/05/08
  189.   # 2 again a far away shouter.. 15:16  |  Hans 16/05/08
  190.   The constant victims strive to keep their place 15:17  |  Natallie Durson 16/05/08
  191.   Funny to see a Jew(ess) preaching against "victimhood" 15:24  |  Tosefta 16/05/08
  192.   Marlene N - you made an important point 15:24  |  ChanahS 16/05/08
  193.   Negationism 15:26  |  Bar-Khode 16/05/08
  194.   LIKE SOVIETS ISRAELIS WANT TO FABRICATE HISTORY 15:26  |  JH 16/05/08
  195.   drop holocaust from your vocabulary 15:27  |  sam i am 16/05/08
  196.   #114; lakshmi all states around Israel were created the same 15:29  |  Doc Holliday 16/05/08
  197.   lakshmi #114: no limits to this hate? 15:32  |  ivo 16/05/08
  198.   Manolo is concerned about! 15:37  |  Manolo 16/05/08
  199.   Catastrophe was the stupidity refusing a state 1948 15:39  |  x-ray 16/05/08
  200.   Palestinian in U.K. 15:39  |  David Nigel Braham 16/05/08
  201.   Clickfool 98 15:39  |  ChanahS 16/05/08
  202.   world`s citizen 15:44  |  ChanahS 16/05/08
  203.   Naqbah was before China invaded Tibet 15:51  |  Manolo 16/05/08
  204.   Re #131 Israel has no one to negotiate with 15:53  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/05/08
  205.   Israel protests UN chief Ban Ki-Moon`s use of term `nakba` 15:54  |  Julian 16/05/08
  206.   Reality and resolution of reality 16:00  |  habba habba 16/05/08
  207.   Tosefta: Whitewash 16:03  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/05/08
  208.   Let us talk to Bush about Slowman 16:05  |  Rotem Sela 16/05/08
  209.   HOW ABOUT "NAKBA" OF 800,000 JEWS FROM ARAB COUNTRIES? 16:11  |  `48 Refugee IraqiJew 16/05/08
  210.   Holocaust denial 16:12  |  Truth 16/05/08
  211.   New Naqba 16:16  |  Billy 16/05/08
  212.   habba habba: Hab and Hab Nots 16:18  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/05/08
  213.   #115 lahshmi carries the DUMB 800 lb LIE around her neck (3x) 16:23  |  CK Tan 16/05/08
  214.   Shoa/Holocaust yes, Nakba no? 16:30  |  Michael N 16/05/08
  215.   ARABS` "DISASTER/NAKBA": THEIR FAILURE TO COMMIT GENOCIDE ON JEWS 16:31  |  Joel Stein 16/05/08
  216.   #148 jack hass and more misinformation 16:38  |  v hardman 16/05/08
  217.   please think twice 16:41  |  amihai 16/05/08
  218.   MONOPOLY RIGHT OF HUMAN MISERY 16:41  |  indrajaya 16/05/08
  219.   Dovy, Indrajaya, Mordi, El-Birawi ..: keep the holocaust out of - 16:46  |  ivo 16/05/08
  220.   Nakba is the right word 16:48  |  Atoo 16/05/08
  221.   Ronnie Walman @139 16:49  |  ...G1 16/05/08
  222.   # 114 Thanks for the compliment Ofer, I was already worried..... 16:49  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/05/08
  223.   Lakshmi (#118) and Her 800lab Gorilla 16:58  |  Gil 16/05/08
  224.   Lakshmi (#118) and Her 800lab Gorilla 16:59  |  Gil 16/05/08
  225.   Nakba 25 anniversary remembrance 17:00  |  peter 16/05/08
  226.   @ 131, you are correct. The "al-nakba" in Arabic translates to 17:04  |  Avihu 16/05/08
  227.   Hadi in Brussels 17:06  |  marbpl 16/05/08
  228.   Israel is owed some answer 17:09  |  peter 16/05/08
  229.   Re:an Arab`s view 17:15  |  Steven 16/05/08
  230.   Let us talk to Bush about Slowman 17:18  |  Rotem Sela 16/05/08
  231.   Sami the Palestinian 17:20  |  Robert/Mtl Zionist 16/05/08
  232.   Denying Nakba denies history 17:22  |  Jay Chamblin 16/05/08
  233.   To Yanatan #10 first Shabbat Shalom 17:27  |  Robert/Montreal 16/05/08
  234.   BBS: Making His Own Narrative 17:31  |  Tex 16/05/08
  235.   The blame for nabka is on the Arabs 17:38  |  KUTW 16/05/08
  236.   Arabs wanted to cause a Jewish nabka 17:42  |  KUTW 16/05/08
  237.   an Arab`s view 17:42  |  Steven 16/05/08
  238.   Israel joins David Irving and company 17:43  |  Mark Lincoln 16/05/08
  239.   Why hasnt the General Secretary mentioned the Jews Nabka? 17:44  |  KUTW 16/05/08
  240.   Israel Must Come to Terms 17:45  |  Janice 16/05/08
  241.   152. Manolo: Manolo is concerned about! 17:49  |  KUTW 16/05/08
  242.   Natallie Durston is not so shockingly full of lies 17:51  |  SHIMON 16/05/08
  243.   is it possible to be a "UN man" and not to be an Antisemite? 17:52  |  felix 16/05/08
  244.   # 152 Manolo: you should be more concerned about your own busine 17:53  |  Raúl 16/05/08
  245.   El-Birawi - arabs have only themselves to blame for Nabka 17:54  |  SHIMON 16/05/08
  246.   El-Birawi - and his weak understanding of history 17:54  |  SHIMON 16/05/08
  247.   Nabka is so pathetic 17:55  |  SHIMON 16/05/08
  248.   "Nabka day" means "day to blame others for own faults" 17:56  |  SHIMON 16/05/08
  249.   152Manolo 17:57  |  Bellatrix 16/05/08
  250.   #152Manolo...in Madrid? 18:06  |  Silvienne 16/05/08
  251.   Dutch and the need for a Jewish state 18:06  |  utagawa 16/05/08
  252.   # 41 ben kobi 18:11  |  Axel 16/05/08
  253.   WHAT ABOUT OUR NAKBAS ??? 18:12  |  Ajay Kaur 16/05/08
  254.   Ronnie Wolman 18:17  |  ...G1 16/05/08
  255.   More pal nabkas 18:18  |  KUTW 16/05/08
  256.   Hadi 18:20  |  David 16/05/08
  257.   Ban Ki-Moon did the right thing 18:27  |  Fenno-Ugrian 16/05/08
  258.   the real Naqba 18:27  |  Freddy 16/05/08
  259.   Only Jews suffer 18:30  |  John 16/05/08
  260.   Give Gaza gangs money, land, 1 free pass in exchange for Shalit 18:37  |  E.T. 16/05/08
  261.   manolo from madrid 18:38  |  utagawa 16/05/08
  262.   What Dutch needs #34 (2nd time) 18:44  |  utagawa 16/05/08
  263.   Pal in UK #140 18:47  |  Marc 16/05/08
  264.   Disadvntage of being old 18:49  |  Jackie 16/05/08
  265.   Lynn (124) urges 18:53  |  jackie 16/05/08
  266.   nakba nakba nakba nakba nakba 18:55  |  John 16/05/08
  267.   ISRAEL PROTESTS;;;;;;; 19:07  |  MAROSHKA 16/05/08
  268.   touchy arnt we....! 19:09  |  ravi 16/05/08
  269.   nakba 19:09  |  gil 16/05/08
  270.   HAPPY NAKBA TO YOU - SO GLAD YOU LEFT THE LAND 19:14  |  Lagunageno 16/05/08
  271.   136, Dear Mike , May I Call you that? 19:14  |  Robert/Montreal 16/05/08
  272.   Ajay Kaur #168: that`s right, Ajay! 19:16  |  ivo 16/05/08
  273.   1998, the beggining of nakba 19:18  |  peter 16/05/08
  274.   MAROSHKA the Ukranian # 190 19:19  |  Robert/Montreal 16/05/08
  275.   Response to Hadi, # 2 19:20  |  David Bowes 16/05/08
  276.   ravi from india 19:22  |  scallywag 16/05/08
  277.   utagawa #184: all we need now is a worldwide call for Right - 19:24  |  ivo 16/05/08
  278.   #145, Tosefta: "Are only Jews allowed to have a Holocaust?" 19:29  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/05/08
  279.   maroshka 19:34  |  Mahmoud El Tizak 16/05/08
  280.   ISRAELI THIEVES AND LIARS 19:40  |  JH 16/05/08
  281.   #163, Mark Lincoln, what are you fabricating 19:44  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/05/08
  282.   Israel was created at the expense of Palestenians 19:51  |  Jaffar 16/05/08
  283.   150 Doc.Holliday,151 Ivo,180 Ajay Kumar: 19:51  |  lakshmi 16/05/08
  284.   Dutch (79), Ralph Waldo Emerson was a man 19:53  |  Jew- and Bookburner 16/05/08
  285.   #144, Durson, "the same previliges with naqba" 19:53  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/05/08
  286.   The Arabs brought the Nakba upon themselves 19:54  |  Murray the Mongoose 16/05/08
  287.   #109 Swiss(Dino) - Triggering the Opposite of What They Wanted 19:57  |  JP 16/05/08
  288.   G1: Naqbas 19:58  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/05/08
  289.   anybody who wants to lose 6 million step forward 20:07  |  x-ray 16/05/08
  290.   #2 - Hadi - Arrogant, Indeed 20:07  |  JP 16/05/08
  291.   Hizbullah Warrior (116) believes that peace and justice 20:09  |  Jew- and Bookburner 16/05/08
  292.   NAKBA a joke 20:30  |  Baruch Gold 16/05/08
  293.   A monument to Martian logic #200 20:33  |  Tosefta 16/05/08
  294.   Shoa yes, Nakba no??? 20:38  |  Michael N 16/05/08
  295.   Manipulation of vocabulary to manipulate opinion 20:46  |  Realist 16/05/08
  296.   Bird from Outerspace and a "Holocaust" #201 20:46  |  Tosefta 16/05/08
  297.   3 20:50  |  zionist forever 16/05/08
  298.   There is no Sussex in England, there is only East and West Sussex 20:53  |  Irelander 16/05/08
  299.   What is so hard to understand 20:53  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/05/08
  300.   quell ironie: the u.n. now is simply the p.a.`s branch in n.y. 20:59  |  frenz 16/05/08
  301.   Atilla - Shame on you 20:59  |  David Israel 16/05/08
  302.   No condemnation of this "extra judicial assasination? 21:07  |  LEHI forever! 16/05/08
  303.   Have your own navka - cry in your pillow 21:07  |  x-ray 16/05/08
  304.   They moved on ChanahS? 146 21:09  |  Marlene N. 16/05/08
  305.   Ajay Kaur from Mumbai 21:10  |  David Israel 16/05/08
  306.   The beginning of all Nagbas on planet was.. 21:27  |  Synic 16/05/08
  307.   Ronnie @215- Haaretz a reply!!! 21:31  |  ...G1 16/05/08
  308.   One more Jewish Nabka 21:31  |  KUTW 16/05/08
  309.   Let Them Have Their Naqba 21:33  |  Jeff Northridge 16/05/08
  310.   G1: On the term Naqba 21:34  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/05/08
  311.   The Jewish Nabka from Judea and Samaria 21:36  |  KUTW 16/05/08
  312.   No Arab Nabka 21:39  |  KUTW 16/05/08
  313.   225Synic: The beginning of all Nagbas on planet was.. 21:42  |  Bellatrix 16/05/08
  314.   #221, Michael N, the do nothing class 21:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/05/08
  315.   Palestinian Usurpation of Jewish Symbols, History, and Identity 21:44  |  Question Mark 16/05/08
  316.   The Main Point of the Israeli Protest 21:46  |  Ronnie Wolman 16/05/08
  317.   Michael N - what past?!? 21:46  |  SHIMON 16/05/08
  318.   And yet, Cipora # 208 21:48  |  Clickfool 16/05/08
  319.   Strange coming from survivors of Holocaust 21:50  |  Jay Chamblin 16/05/08
  320.   191, Israelis can`t build a future on the backs of Palestinians 21:52  |  Dutch 16/05/08
  321.   # 214 JP 21:58  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/05/08
  322.   To Marlene, JH, Lakshmi, etc. Scapegoats 22:01  |  Altalena 16/05/08
  323.   228 Jeff Northridge,israel is non compliance of all UN Resolution 22:03  |  lakshmi 16/05/08
  324.   213 Murrray, It`s the Israelis who haven`t learnt a thing 22:09  |  Dutch 16/05/08
  325.   Bird from Outerspace and a "Holocaust" #205 22:10  |  Tosefta 16/05/08
  326.   Ronnie on what is fair 22:26  |  peter 16/05/08
  327.   #234 Good points, Quesrtion Mark 22:27  |  hala 16/05/08
  328.   Jews have had many Naqbas 22:29  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 16/05/08
  329.   #223 x-ray - navka 22:45  |  gammaray 16/05/08
  330.   Ronnie Wolman @229 22:49  |  ...G1 16/05/08
  331.   Ronnie 22:51  |  wibism 16/05/08
  332.   Question for Question Mark #234 22:52  |  John Syracuse 16/05/08
  333.   Those Arabs who reject peace with Jews, should leave Jewish Land. 22:53  |  Vittorio 16/05/08
  334.   No ad hominem needed question mark 22:59  |  BBSNews 16/05/08
  335.   was this really necesary Israel? 23:13  |  rm 16/05/08
  336.   Michael: N for Nazi 23:15  |  Tex 16/05/08
  337.   Questioning "Question Mark" (or any of his other identities #234) 23:15  |  Tosefta 16/05/08
  338.   I the lord-- do plead for my hertiage called Israel 23:17  |  roger wallace 16/05/08
  339.   Arabs mourn their own stupidity in history 23:18  |  SHIMON 16/05/08
  340.   Jews have had many Naqbas (2nd try haaretz) 23:23  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 16/05/08
  341.   Cipora - I am fabricating nothing 23:39  |  Mark Lincoln 16/05/08
  342.   What do you exxpect from Koreans 23:42  |  Galit 16/05/08
  343.   Bravo Netanyahu & Livni for exposing reality - Snakba is not even 23:43  |  Rachel 16/05/08
  344.   Cipora - a text book example 23:47  |  Mark Lincoln 16/05/08
  345.   Nakba Indeed 23:49  |  Denise 16/05/08
  346.   Atilla Karagozoglu 23:50  |  David Israel 16/05/08
  347.   Conspiracy theory regarding Slowman 23:55  |  Rotem Sela 16/05/08
  348.   Ronnie # 235: what are you talking about, Ronnie? 23:58  |  ivo 16/05/08
  349.   To Sami The Palestinian 00:00  |  Михаил 17/05/08
  350.   soldier of Above 00:03  |  Robin Hood 17/05/08
  351.   # 236 shimon 00:10  |  Axel 17/05/08
  352.   # 208 kohn 00:16  |  Axel 17/05/08
  353.   Cipora - read Allon to understand the sound 00:18  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  354.   Chinese wisdom for Slowman 00:20  |  Rotem Sela 17/05/08
  355.   As time goes on 00:27  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  356.   le bonheur des uns fait le malheur des autres ! 00:28  |  Wahbi 17/05/08
  357.   A history question 00:28  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  358.   #31, CKTan...is there any reason why you... 00:34  |  Silvienne 17/05/08
  359.   #99, Clickfool... 00:36  |  Silvienne 17/05/08
  360.   Interesting that Lehi keeps coming up 00:37  |  Scharker Yid 17/05/08
  361.   #107, Baruch Gold... 00:39  |  Silvienne 17/05/08
  362.   Questioning "Question Mark" (or any of his other identities #234) 00:39  |  Tosefta 17/05/08
  363.   As I see it 200th attempt 00:44  |  Chris Linthwaite 17/05/08
  364.   Questioning "Question Mark" (or any of his other identities #234) 00:47  |  Tosefta 17/05/08
  365.   to Ronnie Wolman 00:47  |  Wahbi 17/05/08
  366.   Bird from Outerspace and a "Holocaust" #205 00:47  |  Tosefta 17/05/08
  367.   Question for Question Mark #234 00:51  |  John Syracuse 17/05/08
  368.   David Israel 00:58  |  examiner 17/05/08
  369.   lakshmi #210: is that all you can do, lakshmi? 01:12  |  ivo 17/05/08
  370.   "Nakba" -Its Source 01:18  |  Moshe 17/05/08
  371.   # 134 ivo...not hardly a "sweetie" 01:22  |  Lynn 17/05/08
  372.   #245,#248, Mark Lincoln, you are fabricating again 01:24  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  373.   # 141 Keith 01:25  |  Lynn 17/05/08
  374.   Clickfool # 237 There`s A First Time For Everything 01:26  |  Jeff Northridge 17/05/08
  375.   David Israel 01:26  |  examiner 17/05/08
  376.   #241 Tosefta 01:27  |  Question Mark 17/05/08
  377.   jackie of Florida...you live in a country with 01:33  |  Lynn 17/05/08
  378.   A "Day of Reconcilliation" 01:34  |  Morris Valentine 17/05/08
  379.   Question for Question Mark 01:35  |  John Syracuse 17/05/08
  380.   Tex and his Nazi fetish #240 01:44  |  Loewen 17/05/08
  381.   #238 BBS News 01:48  |  Question Mark 17/05/08
  382.   the Nakba is worse than the Shoa 01:48  |  natan 17/05/08
  383.   No Shimon, Nabka Day is to pin point the root cause 01:56  |  Dutch 17/05/08
  384.   @253 01:56  |  algorythm 17/05/08
  385.   Cipora to Michael N and the do nothing class 01:58  |  do nothing class 17/05/08
  386.   "Free" Speech in the U.N. 02:04  |  Jack Olson 17/05/08
  387.   # Rab Burns. So when do you leave? 02:14  |  Maureen Ann 17/05/08
  388.   Mark the reasonable holocaust denier Lincoln 02:18  |  peter 17/05/08
  389.   Utagawa, My criticism is perfectly legitimate 02:20  |  Dutch 17/05/08
  390.   BAN BAN FOR NAKBA? 02:26  |  JOHN ISH ISHMAEL 17/05/08
  391.   #177 Shimon. There are some... 02:31  |  Maureen Ann 17/05/08
  392.   Lynn #268-I made the same point as jackie 02:35  |  Keith 17/05/08
  393.   273 addendum, No more denial from Israelis & apologists 02:36  |  Dutch 17/05/08
  394.   Ivo and Wahbi:Terminal Terminologies 02:37  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/05/08
  395.   The Real Do Nothing 02:51  |  Tex 17/05/08
  396.   Jack Off Olsen: Crying About the Jews 02:54  |  Tex 17/05/08
  397.   Natan thats not an argument 03:00  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/05/08
  398.   Lynn #304 03:01  |  Keith 17/05/08
  399.   #261 Dutch, YOU ARE INCORRECT AND YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE OBLIVIOUS TO 03:14  |  Murray the Mongoose 17/05/08
  400.   Lynn #308 03:15  |  John Syracuse 17/05/08
  401.   Cipora - you are a curiou case 03:19  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  402.   This is outrageous 03:23  |  Edith 17/05/08
  403.   Lynn #319 03:23  |  Keith 17/05/08
  404.   Lynn #317 03:25  |  John Syracuse 17/05/08
  405.   #313 Jack Olsen. About Israel and free speech. 03:26  |  Maureen Ann 17/05/08
  406.   # 338 Keith ....the constitution is our basic law 03:26  |  Lynn 17/05/08
  407.   Is Diplomacy the art of confusion . ? 03:28  |  Joseph . E 17/05/08
  408.   Palestine & Palestinians is a Myth since the beginning of time. 03:30  |  Rozz 17/05/08
  409.   It was an ugly and dire war 03:31  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  410.   It is ill to. . . Tosefta 03:38  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  411.   Another lunatic heard from 03:43  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  412.   # 33 Sami the Jew...To the Pal,Terrorists.. 03:43  |  Just me 17/05/08
  413.   # 369 Syracuse...I said nothing about Clinton 03:45  |  Lynn 17/05/08
  414.   Cipora Julianna Kohn P1 03:46  |  TonyL 17/05/08
  415.   Nakba 03:49  |  Effie 17/05/08
  416.   The Peter/Cipora theory of the holocaust 03:49  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  417.   # 193 KUTW ..SIMPLE DEDUCTION.THE U.N IS A CORRUPT INSTITUTIONAND 03:52  |  Just me 17/05/08
  418.   MV #340 thank you for yet another beautiful 03:55  |  Beitcafe 17/05/08
  419.   #362, do nothing class wants to bomb Burma 04:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  420.   Jack Olsen # 323 What Illegal Partitioning? 04:03  |  Jeff Northridge 17/05/08
  421.   Cipora Julianna Kohn P2 04:03  |  TonyL 17/05/08
  422.   #379, peter 04:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  423.   #404, MarkL,"when the imbecile is persistent in spouting insanity 04:17  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  424.   Israel`s big problem 04:18  |  margaret 17/05/08
  425.   #416, Mark Lincoln 1 04:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  426.   #416, Mark Lincoln 2 04:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  427.   Cipora - how can one have a civil converstation 04:44  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  428.   Cipora, if it never happened 04:47  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  429.   Hiroshima denial and holocaust denial 04:55  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  430.   Lynn # 413 Touchy-Touchy 04:57  |  Jeff Northridge 17/05/08
  431.   #414,421, Tony L, the ideologes 04:58  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  432.   Cipora - The neocons do want to invade Burma 05:02  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  433.   Oh, Loewen: Wolf! Wolf! 05:11  |  Tex 17/05/08
  434.   #219 ivo....mosque education 05:29  |  Lynn 17/05/08
  435.   Question mark on 2008 05:29  |  BBSNews 17/05/08
  436.   I did not Cipora 05:34  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  437.   Cipora - the consequences of Dir Yassin 05:40  |  Mark Lincoln 17/05/08
  438.   Cipora on Mark #404 05:40  |  BBSNews 17/05/08
  439.   Cipora on flawed reasoning... 05:59  |  BBSNews 17/05/08
  440.   Pleading with the heathen saith god 06:02  |  roger wallace 17/05/08
  441.   #315 Question Mark, on Palestinian culture 06:05  |  Ben Alofs 17/05/08
  442.   Israel protests UN 06:07  |  YahYah Tsidkenu 17/05/08
  443.   #425 Cipora`s analysis is correct, Holocaust no comparison 1948.. 06:16  |  Smadar 17/05/08
  444.   To Mark Lincoln`s several postings. 06:26  |  Michael N 17/05/08
  445.   Israelis once again in denial 06:38  |  FK 17/05/08
  446.   To Beitcafe (#418) 06:52  |  Morris Valentine 17/05/08
  447.   #441 Ben Alofs, and did you know that the Jewish Arabic dialect 07:07  |  Smadar 17/05/08
  448.   #432, Mark Lincoln, who wants to bomb Burma? 07:21  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  449.   #443, Smadar 07:23  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/05/08
  450.   #435 BBS News 07:23  |  Question Mark 17/05/08
  451.   sounds like israel needs to accept its past! (2nd try) 07:48  |  eric 17/05/08
  452.   #441 Ben Alofs 07:55  |  Question Mark 17/05/08
  453.   Ben Alofs: No single Pal dialect, no unique culture pre 1948 08:21  |  Rob 17/05/08
  454.   Why is Nakba not tied to Moslem Calendar but to Gregorian? 08:27  |  I 17/05/08
  455.   Nakba should refer to Million Jews ethnically cleansed by Arabs 08:36  |  Rob 17/05/08
  456.   Morris, (if Haaretz will be so kind...) 08:40  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 17/05/08
  457.   439,BBSNews, The morally reprehensible of the Israeli position 08:51  |  Dutch 17/05/08
  458.   Michael N 08:59  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 17/05/08
  459.   Question mark on central facts... 09:19  |  BBSNews 17/05/08
  460.   to Mordechai it is not food for anyone 10:16  |  gus 17/05/08
  461.   #429 Mark Lincoln, regarding blame 10:46  |  Christopher M. 17/05/08
  462.   203Manolo. Tibetans launching rockets? 11:22  |  Pierre 17/05/08
  463.   # 432 to mark lincoln 11:29  |  eric 17/05/08
  464.   The Arabs see the very establishment of the UN member state as a 12:09  |  Petra 17/05/08
  465.   The Yassam onslaught near Zippori 12:58  |  Rowan 17/05/08
  466.   #387 13:04  |  Rab Burns 17/05/08
  467.   swiss (dino) #321 13:21  |  scallywag 17/05/08
  468.   Question Mark #452 13:26  |  John Syracuse 17/05/08
  469.   Margie the denier #458 13:38  |  Roo 17/05/08
  470.   #459 BBS News 13:42  |  Question Mark 17/05/08
  471.   By a babbling brook.......# 440 13:49  |  Clickfool 17/05/08
  472.   Realty and Reality 14:09  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/05/08
  473.   Iakshmi # 323 Noncompliance 14:22  |  Jeff Northridge 17/05/08
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