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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Premier Kit Reply with quote
Hey Trym!

I think I saw your new kit all cased up at Plastic Head at the weekend when I was over there rehearsing and I remembered you mentioning on here that your new kit was coming soon....

Can you give us the specs on your new Premier kit?

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That was just a kit for the Zyklon tour we just did.
I am still waiting for my Premier kit, and actually not sure how it looks Laughing
The specs are however:
20" kicks
8-10-12-14" power toms
16-18" floor
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
what are power toms?
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Power toms are shorter toms than the "normal" size.
Instead of ex 12"x10" they are 12"x8".
You might think this will be a thin sounding tom, with low volume, but its actually opposite!
There is something happening when the volume in a tom is to big. Take a regular 14"x12" tom, and the sound inside will reflect and turn back inside, and cause the sound vibration to work against each other. And the results of sound waves hitting sound waves, is less volume and power...Thats why the short toms are called power toms Cool
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hahaha that actually makes a lot of sense Very Happy . Do the power toms end up being a higher pitch than regular toms would be?
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
interesting... do you use single or double-ply on them?
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im getting the Premier Series Maple Classic Un-Supported
Premium 6 ply North American Maple
This will be in Rosewood Lacquer finish, but I asked to make it darker than the "normal" finish.
The pitch is the same as standard, but with more low deep tone. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That is badass. Whenever i can afford a new kit i am going to look into these power toms Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cheers Trym!

Hope the new Premier Monster comes out just the way you want.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Trym wrote:
Power toms are shorter toms than the "normal" size.
Instead of ex 12"x10" they are 12"x8".
You might think this will be a thin sounding tom, with low volume, but its actually opposite!
There is something happening when the volume in a tom is to big. Take a regular 14"x12" tom, and the sound inside will reflect and turn back inside, and cause the sound vibration to work against each other. And the results of sound waves hitting sound waves, is less volume and power...Thats why the short toms are called power toms Cool


That is some really good information... that will most likely solve my "my toms sound too tinny" problem... I never knew this. Thanks, man!!!

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can also try different heads on the toms as that could be a cheaper solution to you problem.
I use the Remo Emperor Ambasador suede coated on my drums, but you can also use Emperor clear or some other powerful heads from Evans etc. Coated heads make less vibration and "overtones" on toms that are "singing" to much. But usually moon-gel is best way to kill that problem.
Heads like Pinstripe give less power but last longer than 1 and 2 layer heads. If you can take one of your toms to the music store you use, and try different heads, you will hear what is best for your kit.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I always read about that moon gel but I don`t know what it is. Can you guys tell me more about it?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks for telling us what power toms are i never knew either. i'm gonna look into that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
the premier website lists the (12") tom sizes like this

12" x 08" Standard Tom
12" x 09" Quick Tom
12" x 10" Power Tom

the don't seem to have any info regarding this... I don't know if it's all mislabeled or what, but I'm kind of confused now after Trym said that the power toms are the short ones.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think that power toms are deeper ones.Yamaha got them and 12" is 10" deep.
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