If you could please help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Only one question...
Will there be an upgrade patch for Shogo? If so when will it be out? If it is already out, where may I find it? Ok, one question that is muti. LOL

Several more patches are underway and you can check their progress on this page.

MonoLith is however working on a Glide port which should make the game run a little faster. This is due out in the 2.3 patch for Shogo and you can check on its status at www.shogo-mad.com.

Pretty disgusted,

I am part of a team which is working to alleviate these problems with Shogo. We are working hard and have MonoLith's support so hopefully we can resolve these issues. I hope that you stay around or check back when we have this all fixed.

The project is called ShogoWorld and you can read up on it at www.radikus.net

"Could You please Tell me all the steps on how to play Online?"

[I have tried all sorts of Versions of GameSpy but none of them support 'Shogo'.]

At this point Shogo will show up on the left side of the GameSpy window. It should list Unbound and Master Server I believe if you click on it. However, no servers will show up yet.

You need to click on the Updates button on the menu and then choose Update Master Server List. Be sure that you have Shogo selected in that left hand window also. When you do this GameSpy will get an updated list and is ready to go.

After this, when you want to find a game of Shogo you should click on Shogo and then right-click and choose Update or Refresh and it will get the current server lists from the master server.

Clicking update does a check for more servers, doing a refresh simply queries all of the listed servers for current status.

Many people have complained about GameSpy not working too well and like to use Kali at www.kali.net. This program works similar to GameSpy. However, to find the list of TCP/IP servers using Kali you must click on the TCP/IP button. I haven't used Kali in a while so you should ask on the planetshogo forums if you need any more help.

The only way to prune this would be to un-rez all of the shogo*.rez files as described in the LithTech tools. You could possibly delete sound.rez also, I really don't know.

You could delete all of the SP levels I believe. Also, you could possibly remove the textures and models not used in Multiplayer. However, this would require determining which textures are and aren't used in the MP levels. Also, if someone releases a new map that uses the SP textures it would be a problem.

Basically, if you un-rez all the .rez files you can try to delete stuff that seems like it is only for SP and see if it works. That is the only way to go.

ShogoWorld will contain many, many modifications to Shogo including:

Plug and Play Models
Squishie support built in.
An improved HUD
Network lag fixes
And several extra gameplay options.

This MOD is under work right now with the aid and support of MonoLith and will be completed as soon as we can. However, with the extent of the changes it will take some time.

The model system in LithTech is not really skeletal animation as I understand it. As I see it, skel. modelling uses a framework, then builds dynamically on top of that. Really really fancy systems simulate hair follicles/skin and bone, etc. What LithTech uses are actual models, no simulation. However, LithTech makes *extensive* of NODES. Basically, you can access different parts of the model. I think Quake 2 only had one special part of the model, the area where the weapon went. LithTech far surpasses this. What's the point, you ask? Use your imagination. I went through each model and am choosing the appropriate node to attach the SNS CTF flag to so that it looks decent on each model (yeah, still tweaking this ;). Here's an idea: visible upgrades. Say you pick up a headset--SHOW IT ON THE PLAYER! Cool, neh?

As far as the jumping animations, there might be extras in there. The animations *are* controlled by code, so you could enable them if you tinkered with the source. However, I get the feeling this is a tricky process, and there'd have to be a good reason to tackle that monster ;)

Ok, hope I didn't screw any part of this answer up *too* much.

Digit.

Ammended 2/12/99 by SSpeare:

Mac's answer is correct here. Lith uses node-based animation. This method is very similar to, but not exactly like true bones or skeletal animation. Basically, a model consists of a bunch of nodes. The animation is stored on a per node basis. Each node is basically a static model in itself. The nodes also use a heirarchy, so changes to the top node filter down to the bottom node. These changes are in position & rotation of the node only. The node does not change its shape at all.

What skeletal animation usually adds to this mix is some model deformation at the joints. Shogo doesn't use any, or just very little model deformation. LithTech supports it, but they were too far into production of Shogo to add it in. Blood2's models are better looking than Shogo's because they used some of the advanced animation and modelling techniques that LithTech supports.

The problem with copying the animations is that almost every model has a different number of nodes and different placement of these nodes. If you could isolate the "important" nodes you could achieve part of this effect, but it would still take LOTS of work. For example, you could copy the animations for all the major joints, but it would look funny because of different number of nodes. Kura, for example, doesn't have the shoulder pads that Sanjuro has.

In an aside: The Otaku MOD supports this basic idea. All models in the game will draw from a common animation source. This way individual models will not have to have their own animations. This will make it much easier to customize the look of your model. Also, arms/legs/heads/hair and skins will be interchangeable.

This can also be a concave brush, you can find them if you press CTRL-F. You have to delete it, i DEdit finds any. Those problem brushes will probably look really weird in Shogo: weird faces, clipping errors etc.

Ammended 2/12/99 by SSpeare:

I don't know much about mapping, but here's an answer from Mike Dussault:

The best way to find these is to add -SelectProblemBrushes into the Extra Parameters box in the preprocessor (under Advanced). This will select the brushes it doesn't like in the ED file and save it back out.

Ammended 2/12/99 by SSpeare:

I assume that you're referring to negai. The mp3 is available for download at maison-otaku, negai.mp3. Also the lyrics are in negai.txt.

: warning C4291: 'void *__cdecl operator new(unsigned int,void *,int,char)' : no matching operator delete found; memory will not be freed if initialization throws an exception ..\appheaders\serverobj_de.h(354) : see declaration of 'new' ---

Ammended 2/12/99 by SSpeare:

The reason you see this warning is that VC++ 6.0 is trying to think for you and to tell you that are creating variables but never deleting them.

Here is a fix straight from Mike Dussault:

MSVC++ 6.0 issue: warning C4291:
To fix this, you can disable exceptions under Project Settings->C++->C++ Language or you can also add this into serverobj_de.h after the operator new (the next patch source has this):

#if _MSC_VER != 1100
inline void operator delete(void *pDataPtr, void *ptr, int asdf, char a)
{
}
#endif

Those of us coding MODs for Shogo are very interested in writing Bots. However, at the present moment we are trying to build the Shogo online community. This community would benefit from Bots, but for the most part would rather play against real people (hence, online community). Quake did not see the advent of Bots for quite a while after its online presence was established.

Also, bots are wanted by people who usually can't or don't get online, and therefore we don't hear them complain as much.

When Shogo gets a larger then Bots will be written. I know that I and several other coders would really like to write Bots, but we have no prior experience. Thus, it would take a very long time and take us away from other projects that are more important right now. We don't want to ignore people who use Bots, its just that we don't have the time to put into them now.

Compiling...
NetStart.cpp
D:\spel\shogo\Programs\source21\ClientShellDLL\NetStart.cpp(1028) : error C2664: 'unsigned long (char *,void ** )' : cannot convert parameter 2 from 'struct HWND__ ** ' to 'void ** '
Types pointed to are unrelated; conversion requires reinterpret_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast
Error executing cl.exe.

CShell.dll - 1 error(s), 0 warning(s)

I have VC++ 6.0

DRESULT dr = pClient->GetEngineHook("HWND", &s;_hMainWnd);

The s_hMainWnd is a HWND ** (that is, a pointer to a pointer to an HWND). The function expects a void ** (which is a pointer to a pointer to something unknown). The error statement says that conversion requires a cast. Casting it like this will solve the problem:

DRESULT dr = pClient->GetEngineHook("HWND", (void**)&s;_hMainWnd);

Good luck with the rest of your coding!
You can also post coding questions on the PlanetShogo forums in Modifications or Editing as most of us frequent those places. Editing is mainly being used for Mapping questions right now.

Linking...
nafxcwd.lib(nolib.obj) : warning LNK4098: defaultlib "nafxcw.lib" conflicts with use of other libs; use /NODEFAULTLIB:library
libcmtd.lib(crt0init.obj) : warning LNK4098: defaultlib "libcmt.lib" conflicts with use of other libs; use /NODEFAULTLIB:library
CoolServ.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "public: virtual int __thiscall CGameSpyMgr::Init(char const *,char const *,char const *,int,int,int,unsigned long)" (?Init@CGameSpyMgr@@UAEHPBD00HHHK@Z)
ShogoServDlg.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "public: virtual int __thiscall CGameSpyMgr::Init(char const *,char const *,char const *,int,int,int,unsigned long)" (?Init@CGameSpyMgr@@UAEHPBD00HHHK@Z)
Debug/ShogoSrv.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
Error executing link.exe.

ShogoSrv.exe - 3 error(s), 2 warning(s)

( I did put the GameSpyMgr.lib file into an include Lib dir as was suggested by the readme) I know this may be a fundamental issue - but I am kind of new to Visual C++...

Here's a direct link to GameSpyMgr.lib

When you download it from the mirror you will probably have to right-click and choose Save As... Then type in GameSpyMgr.lib. Just copy the file (its about 30k) over the old GameSpyMgr.lib in the /Misc directory of your source and you should be set.

However, to ease your pain you could just download the 2 .h files that are needed for Shogo to compile. The readme.txt lists only one, but both are needed. The files are in Shogo:Mod (under HOSTED on the right sidebar) in the files section. But here's a direct link to the file for you.

Both of these .h files (dplobby.h and dplay.h) should be copied into your AppHeaders directory.

Also, don't forget to change your include directory to include the AppHeaders directory. This is under Tools->Options->Directories->Include directories in VC++ 5.0, it should be the same (or close) for 6.0.

Here's how to quickly make a door: Make a brush you want to use as a door and texture it. Bind this brush to a Door object. Set the StateFlags of this Door object to 1 (Self Triggerable - It will open automatically once a player or AI touches it). Set the Speed and ClosingSpeed to the speed you want the door to move with. Set the MoveDist(ance) property to the number of units you want the door to move (if the brush is 128 units wide, you could set MoveDist to 124). Set the angle you want the door to move in in the MoveDir property. If you want the door to move horizontally to the right, you'd set the first vector to 1 and the other two to 0. The 3 vectors in MoveDir are just x, y and z vectors which define the angle in which the door moves. You can also set the OpenWaitTime and CloseWaitTime properties if you want the Door object to wait a little before opening or closing. This is all you need to do to make a simple door.

EffectParam: [left/right pan speed] [up/down pan speed]

Example: EffectParam: 4 4 (move right and up 4 units) negative values would move it left/down.

You must also make sure that only ONE of the DemoSkyWorldObject objects has the SkyDims property set. There could ofcourse be a lot of other problems here, skies are not so easy to make in LithTech, so my advice is to check out the Sky Tutorial in our editing section for more information about creating skies.

Well, it seems you forgot to bind a brush to your door object. To create a door, you must first make the brush that you want to use as the door, and then bind that brush to a door object. Just adding a door object to your map is not enough.

So what you can do is create a brush and texture it with some door texture. Then right click on the brush and select "Bind to object" from the menu. Then select the door object from the objects list. After that modify the properties of your door object. For more information about the object properties, you can visit our editing section, where you can download the Shogo Editing Documentation in html help format, which makes it really easy for you to find the info you need.

I am testing it in MP and it has happened several times. It did not do this in early testing, only after I added all the good stuff ;( Any help would be appreciated.