Doesn’t milk do a body good?
Gee, these judges are no fun. In an appeals case Friday, Seoul District Court handed out fines to three nude models and an employee of a certain milk company for a nude advertising performance that the firm put on in January 2003 to promote the launch of a new yogurt product. The show, held in a gallery in Insa-dong, targeted passers-by and featured the three models – one of whom was the head of the Korea Nude Models’ Association – using sprayers to, well, spray each other with yogurt. Anyway, the court ruled the performance a “lewd act” and fined the milk company employee W5 million for staging the event. Performer and Nude Model Association head Ms. Park was fined W2 million, while the other two yogurt girls will have to fork over W500,000 big ones each for their sins.
Of course, what gets me is you can get fined for doing it, but it’s perfectly OK for Korea’s state-owned media company Yonhap to run a photo of it. Not that I’m complaining, of course
English piece here.
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Sure beats the stupid “milk mustache” ads in the states.
Milk - it does a body good.
Hey, does yoghurt cause yeast infections?
What can you say about a nude performance like this - artsy fartsy…
Art? Well, it’s better than a crucifix in a jar of AIDS-infected urine… but still in bad taste…
I prefer art to be about things that don’t involve body-secretions…
I like the picture and disagree with the judgment. I wonder if the court would have ruled it lewd if the three nude models had simply struck poses and stood still?
My God! I hope there wasn’t any Americans or English Teachers in the crowd! The thought of big nosers oggling these pure daughters of Chosun must have the Korean netizens in an uproar!
My God! I hope there wasn’t any Americans or English Teachers in the crowd! The thought of big nosers oggling these pure daughters of Chosun must have the Korean netizens in an uproar!
Its a shame, but these Korean women have no booty to speak of
Sometimes this site will have serious discussions, and those tend to be very good and very interesting, but at least three-quearts of the time this site is about sex, prostitution, and the like.
If your goal is to portray Korea as a land of immoral, chauvanistic goof balls, then you are succeeding… but that’s not the experience I had during the 3 years I was a Professor of Physics there.
Now to find better site to frequent…
Andrew - Ha! A geek who didn’t notice the lusty women in Korea….color us surprised.
Is this the Korean version of Bukkake?
Andrew,
Please don’t leave, for His Majesty has taken an alliance with you, and will surely miss the synergy formed by this great coalition.
Mr McManama-Smith, I think you are making much ado about nothing. As noted, this post was under the Korean tabloid crap section and its just a peice of random nonsense to liven this place up.
Prof. McManama-Smith, might I suggest the Hankyoreh. They strike me as rather prudish, and given their political leanings, probably just what you’re looking for. Their discussion groups tend to be very good, and I’m sure a “Bush=Fascism” man like yourself would fit right in.
Anyway, wishing you all the best in your hunt for a better site.
I’d like to add my voice in support of Marmot here. Prudes can find a bible site somewhere. Anyway, this is PR at its finest. Kudos to the idea man behind this.
It’s true, then , I guess: Erotic art is just porn of which the censors approve. I guess this is not erotic art.
I wonder if they had been foreign models, if any charges would have been filed?
Andrew McManama-Smith-maripkan, it seems to me that you are making a generilization!! Dont do it Andrew McManama-Smith-maripkan. As you know past and current events can lead to no sure conclusions.
“Sometimes this site will have serious discussions, and those tend to be very good and very interesting, but at least three-quearts of the time this site is about sex, prostitution, and the like.
If your goal is to portray Korea as a land of immoral, chauvanistic goof balls, then you are succeeding… but that’s not the experience I had during the 3 years I was a Professor of Physics there.
Now to find better site to frequent…
Comment by Andrew McManama-Smith from — January 22, 2005 (Saturday) @ 10:27 am
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I cannot agree more. I enjoy lurking different blog sites about Korea due to my interests in Korean culture. I guess this type of crap is the reason why I am actually commenting here, otherwise I would just be “lurking.” Maybe the true intent of the blogger is to incite people to post as many comments as possible, more so than other Korea blog sites.
People in general have very little interests in substantive news than tabloid crap. Just flip throught the American TV channels, walk though a checkout stand at a shopping center, or I guess even visit a blog site about Korea.
How would an American’s view about Korea be shaped if he were to just learn bout Korea from reading Marmot’s blogs? Would he get a true picture of Koreans and Korea? I know that if I were a Korean and only info I learn about America is from the National Enquirer, I would get a twisted and warped view about America and the Americans.
“Prof. McManama-Smith, might I suggest the Hankyoreh. They strike me as rather prudish, and given their political leanings, probably just what you’re looking for. Their discussion groups tend to be very good, and I’m sure a “Bush=Fascism” man like yourself would fit right in.
Anyway, wishing you all the best in your hunt for a better site.
Comment by The Marmot from — January 22, 2005 (Saturday) @ 1:56 pm ”
Why all the love? Look at yourself in the mirror. The Korean netizens whom you validly critize and mock so much must be getting on your nerve.
I’m surprised that a fine bleeding-heart liberal like youself would actually be living in a rigid, intolerant, anti-western, hierarchial country like Korea; wouldn’t a country like France be more appropriate?
Analogy
Marmot’s Hole is to Korea as
Howard Stern’s radio show is to the United States.
Love it or hate it, you’re still going to listen to it.
What do you want to be bet we’ll be hearing from our departing friends sooner rather than later? Maybe even with a different name. Maybe telling us 2 or 3 more times how he is not going to comment here anymore.
Read more.
william is awesome, he makes me remember back when I was first “interested in Korean culture". I learned the language, I studied the economy, I listened to Korean music, I had lots of gyopo friends. I’d never been to Korea before. My Korean teacher asked me on more than one occassion, “Why are you interested in Korea? I think you’ll be disappointed” After living here for 2 1/2 years, I think I appreciate the sentiment.
William may I recommend China or Vietnam? Vietnam in particular will be an interesting country over the next 20 years, and since they beat us Yanks they don’t have an inferiority complex hanging over and defining the entire country.
Are these people coming out of the woodwork because of that Englishspectrum thing? “William’s” comments have the look of writing assignments from ESL class. (advanced, but still ESL)
Uhh… William, I think you’ll find Marmot isn’t so liberal if you’d bothered to read a few of his posts.
In terms of Marmot’s uni-dimensional content - well, there’s this thing called the Internet that has multitudes of views and ways of looking at topics such as Korea. I’d suggest checking it out.
Some of you guys are silly. The report is amusing and is hardly an indictment of Korean culture or the Marmot’s blog.
Now if Park Chung Hee was nakid, getting squirted with milk . . .
Now now, William is obviouslly not a Korean complaining about coverage over Korean tabloid crap on this blog. It’s obvious due to the France jibe which wouldn’t have any contextual meaning to South Koreans.
On the other hand, I can’t particularly defend William or Mr. McManama-smith because I think they have totally misinterpreted the atmosphere of this blog. As Mr. Marmot himself once sallied forth to defend yours truly against out of the blue accusations of anti-semitism, I have to say that you are way off base in characterizing this blog. Far from some orientalist pedagogue out to slander Korea, Mr. Marmot’s blog is without a doubt the premier English language blog about Korea and is a great resource for those who want to read up about recent events. The current series of posts may have been to heavily focused on random tabloid crap, but no individual can single-mindedly devote his entire attention to serious events, at least not and remain sane at the same time. Perhaps it was just a slow news week in South Korea? To insinuate that this somehow indicates Mr. Marmot as denigrating Korea is flat out ludicrous, any reader who has perused this blog for any significant amount of time would be able to tell how wrong this comment is. Mr. Marmot’s commentary, when the discussion has actually been of any possible relevance regarding Korean issues, has always in my opinion been objective and nuanced. I’ve seen my fair share of self-styled experts that were more quacks than not, who pidgeonholed their experiences in the orient under easy to classify paradigms. Mr. Marmot is not one of them.
well said, jing, about the marmot. the key for the uninitiated or the obtuse is to check the posting categories. stupid foreigners tricks, korean tabloid crap and then the more serious stuff.
Wasn’t it a few months back someone was calling Marmot a “Korean house nigger?” And now William and Andrew “I’ve got three names!"Mcmanama-Smith show up accusing him of being a Korea basher.
Too funny. Thanks for the entertainment guys.
There are days that I regret having such a common name
Not to worry, Willie G – we all knew you didn’t fly to the US just to rant on the Marmot and then fly back here.
No one could fly that fast
Or could they?
You sneaky fellow you.
I’m surprised that a fine bleeding-heart liberal like youself would actually be living in a rigid, intolerant, anti-western, hierarchial country like Korea; wouldn’t a country like France be more appropriate?
First off, William, I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, but “bleeding-heart liberal” was never one of them. I voted for Bush, for Christ’s sake.
Secondly, if you are getting your Korea news exclusively from blogs, well, I don’t know what to say. Blogs are personal websites, and they reflect the personal interests of those who write them. In this case, my interests happens to be North Korea, geopolitics and Korean tabloid crap. The latter primarily because a) as you correctly point out, it’s what people read, as any check of the Korean portal sites’ top pieces of the day would attest; b) they are short stories, allowing me to get in short posts while I work on other projects; and c) they’re fun and generally uncovered in Korea’s English language press, which also gives you a very perverted view of Korea – compare the English and Korean language media and you’ll see exactly what I mean. As I’ve said on many occasions, no one should ever view this blog as somehow “representative” of Korea, and under no circumstances should anyone rely exclusively on this blog for their Korean news and information. I shouldn’t even have to say it. I do this mostly for fun – I get paid for my dry, hard news translating by the Chosun Ilbo – and its content reflects that. If you find this blog’s content disagreeable, there are plenty of other blogs, many of which are excellect sources of information and commentary. Or even better, start your own blog.
P.S. – I never criticized Netizens for posting about English Spectrum gate. I’d be the last person to tell other people what to post on their own sites, especially when it comes to good old-fashioned tabloid crap. In fact, as I posted in Korean on one man’s blog, I agreed – for the most part – with the criticisms being made with a) the problematic English Spectrum forum AND the asinine “molestation post"; and b) the extrordinarily unhealthy importance attached to learning English in Korea; and c) the fact that just about any white person could come to Korea and teach English. My chief complaints were a) that some of the criticism of “the Party” being made was coming from sources that I felt shouldn’t be bitching about it (read: the JoongAng Ilbo) and that some – SOME – of the Internet response was racist and sexist in nature (read: Anti-English Spectrum) AND appeared to be encouraging acts of online and offline violence (I also had some problems with what I felt were mistranslation or misunderstandings involving the controversial websites). Other than that, I had no problem with Netizens – an extremely vibrant and diverse community for whom I have grown to have tremendous respect for the more I learn about them – having a little fun with the incident. Heck, I have a whole category dedicated to “Stupid Foreigner Tricks,” which happens to be my favorite one. When whitey gets in the Korean news doing something stupid, I’m usually the first to post on it. Heck, if a Korean were to base their judgments of Korea’s expat community just from what they read here, I shudder to imagine what they’d think. Luckily, like most rational human beings, Korean Netizens by and large do not rely on one man’s personal website to frame their opinions.
The marmot istn Korean. Well now THAT is a surpise.
May I kindly remind commentors here who don’t actually know Marmot, that Da Man translates serious crap for a living, and if you want to read “serious” stuff about Korea, you should learn Korean [fat chance] or read another web site he heavily contributes to, his employer’s…
Cut Marmot some frigging slack will ya? Do you think he wants to rehash on his blog every friggning Chosun article he translated during the day?!?
Get your heads outta your collective ass, learn Korean and read it for yourself, if you don’t like it here!
Damn!
Word to “D” to the “D” to the “A”
By the way, I am thinking about starting a frienship circle that only focus on positive things about korea
Some notible things:
*A history of 5,000- 7,500 years (Many hisorians now think that Korea is 25,000 years old)-compaired to USA with only 200 years.
*Building 63
Other topics!! What do you think fellas!
you had a hard time in korea, didn’t ya, dude? thought you were going to be a 2/10 guy but discovered you just a two even in seoul, no? po, po, baaaby. po, PO, baaaaaaby…..
******
is anyone surprised that mark is a howard stern kind of guy? i’m sure he hails from the finest mobile home park america has to offer where his parents taught him the value of lying; still waiting for you to prove your accusation, punk. show me my ‘diatribes against america’. where are they? can’t back up your shit, can ya, goober? just like mama said, ain’t it? just make up shit when you need to…low class expat. sick, just sick, tsk, tsk, tsk, absolutely sick….
*****
what do you guys do all day in korea besides bitch? why not go to japan where you’ll be the gods you never were, are not now, and never will be?
‘there’s nothing good about korea except the pussy and the money…’ america’s finest in the form of an expat
wishful thinking, cutie-pie… Guess the only trim you’ve seen so far is the one that made the mistake to give birth to ya…
Yes, your royal highness. I am trailer trash and not worthy of thy great presence. That’s why I’m where I am and you are where you are, for thy lofty standards of Duty, Honor, and Country far surpass my own.
Hey, where’s the trackback link for this thing? I just wrote something related to this. BTW, note my new URL.
(LOL, still had my old URL there. Here’s the new one.)
My immediate reaction to this story (besides checking out the boobs) was to wonder about Korean reactions to this incident compared to Korea reaction to the EnglishSpectrum story, which also featured a picture of girls showing off their wares. Of course the hot girls are an attraction, but there’s more to it than that, so whiners who don’t like Marmot’s entertaining and interesting blog are welcome to go elsewhere. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
dear mark, stand by your statement that i engage in diatribes against america. show me where they are. hey, you’re the one who made the blunder, now back your shit up but you know something i know; you can’t back up your shit and you know it. why not admit as much?
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btw, paul, did it make you feel proud to see alberto gonzalez swear he wouldn’t torture people? that’s where you’ve taken us, my friend. aren’t you angry that the bushraqis are spitting on the constitution? wake up, paul! join me and those who can put america right again by taking it to the center left where it belongs.
on a different note, can i ask? when are you and majority america going to explode about the mexicanization of america? you just going to let them take it from you?
i know the above is unrelated to korea but you guys better wake up soon. come and press the fm dial and get seven mexican staions in a row and understand what i’m talking about.
I will join you Prince Nulji!! But how do I join you. The mexification is ok with me. I like mexican radio.
I find it curous that Koreans cant get along with anybody but other koreans. Can you tell me why Prince Nulji?
i almost forgot about dda.
rather than worry about me getting some ‘trim’, perhaps you should concentrate on soap and getting some water, messiuer pepe le pew. it’s no accident you a skunk, broham.
dda, you as a frenchman should never ever mention human genitalia to me again. ever! makes me think about cheese and yeast and shit. disgusting! you canhave your iffel tower, frenchy.
Once again, My Liege, I stand smitten by the pithy wisdom of thy logic. I have already stated that I am unworthy of thy lofty presence, and that I have thus exiled to Korea. Thou hast never spoken an unkind word toward the United States, the world is flat, and it fares me well to wear your banner on my shoulder and represent your countless contributions to the American realm. If it pleases the King, I shall serve my penitence as far away from you as possible as I await my execution in the name of your greatest ideals. I only regret that my white trailer trash ass has lost favor in your royal court, and I cannot do more to serve Your Majesty, King Nulji.
I like Dude’s idea about Korean Friendship Club. My topic of the day would be The Sucking Sound Korean Dudes Make With Their Teeth When You Contradict Them - What Is The Exact Right Combination of Air and Spit Needed To Convey A Shocked Incredulity
YangNom!! OOOOHHHH I love that. Some times I play too and do it right after they do. They suck their teeth, then I do it… Them.. Me.. Them.. Me.. and so on.I wait to see how long before they notice me. Then I wait to see how long before they forget that I am sucking my teeth like them, because it doesnt take long before they forget about me and start again. Then it starts again.. them .. me… them ..me.. them ….
I think it’s terrible that Marmot posts pictures like that. Especially because there are better shots HERE.
PS, Just for you commenters seeking something else, for what it’s worth, legally guilty or not the fact they even tried and that Yonhap ain’t in trouble for running those pics be another hint the Joseon era (& talibanesque confucian theocracy) is finally coming to an end. Sociologically significant and pleasing to the eye at the very same time!
‘you’ve never spoken an unkind word about the us…’ mark
dear playboy, glad you finally admitted that. thanks.
Yo Marmot, I know you can’t post on every development in Dynamic Korea, but this is noteworthy, and maybe you even translated it: http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200501/200501240027.html She’s tieing “spectrumgate” with “x-files"–talk about synergy effects!
prease be nice my son. he verry swet boy. he always say thing not bad other person. i love the little boy.
I thought Nulji taught at Miryang over 10 years ago. Assuming he got the job out of college that makes him 31-35 minimum. And he is still living at home with Mommy? No wonder he has such a chip on his shoulder. Anyway, that comment by nulji maripkan 어머니 is probally a troll, but only Marmot knows for sure.
must be 35 and still lives with mom?
much, much, older. and who said i lived with mommy? did i say that? i don’t think i did. do you have a ged?
yes, it was a troll. sorry to your mum, nulji.