To hear Texas-born Rip Torn tell it, he’s strong. So strong, in
fact, that if the only work were digging ditches, he, at 70, would
go get a shovel. With a venerable stage career, a film ography that
begins with Elia Kazan’s 1956 Baby Doll, and a new generation
of fans since his robust comic turn in 1991’s Defending Your
Life and six seasons on The Larry Sanders Show, Torn
needn’t worry about getting acting gigs. To wit: this month’s Freddy
Got Fingered, in which Torn’s a put-upon father battling a pesky
son played by prankster Tom Green.
Did you know who Tom Green was before this movie?
I’d seen his work. He’s like the wicked Allen Funt.
He’s wacky, but is he a good actor?
He’s always believable in what he does. He can play very naturalistic,
but he can play with great passion.
As a stage-trained actor, what did you find intriguing about
the family dynamic in Freddy Got Fingered?
There’s a sexual component. Here’s a virile, young, good-looking
son, and his mother just adores him. Where does that put the father?
Before getting raves for Defending Your Life and Larry
Sanders, who’d have figured you’d have a comedy career?
I worked with Bob Hope and Lucille Ball in Critic’s Choice,
and Bob was very encouraging to me. He said, “Aw, this damn kid’s
trying to bring back the two-reelers. I’m the star!”
Why didn’t you play the lawyer—the part that made Jack Nicholson
famous—in Easy Rider, even though Terry Southern wrote it
for you?
It shows you how dumb I am. I was doing a Broadway play called
The Cuban Thing, with Raul Julia. I was committed to being
in that mess.
Didn’t you and Norman Mailer get into a fight while making
the improvisational Maidstone?
He told me, “At the end, I want you to set up an assassination and
take me out.” I said, “Wait a minute, not really take you
out?” He said, “Well, yeah, make it look real.” I never bit Norman
[as is rumored], but you can see I’ve got a little notch [Reveals
a missing part of his right ear]. But we’re good friends.
In the ’60s and ’70s, you were branded a dangerous leftist
for your civil-rights work. What’s it like to read your government
file?
The most unusual one, the one that I’m most honored to be in, was
when I was asked by Lena Horne to go to this meeting with Bobby
Kennedy. That file says “prominent negroes meeting with the attorney
general.” There was Lorraine Hansberry, James Baldwin, Harry Belafonte.
It was probably one of those pivotal times in my life where I went
with my heart instead of my brain.
Rip Torn is a funny name.
Uncle Roland Torn was the Big Rip, I’m the Showbiz Rip, and I have
a cousin Sam who was called Rip. My boys say, “Uh-uh. No. When did
this name get you anything but grief?” Well, when I couldn’t get
a job, everybody would say, “Where do I know you from?” I said,
“Crossword puzzles!” That kept my name alive for years.
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